Topic: Pioneer DV-600AV-S (1080p upscaling dvd player)

[antikryst]

same din sa shang 6990 6 months 0 interest

[yvesjae]

jeff of TheaterWorks is selling dv600 at Php6300 and dv400 at Php5500. cash only.

[poch]

jeff of TheaterWorks is selling dv600 at Php6300 and dv400 at Php5500. cash only.

bro, san yun TheaterWorks? any contact numbers? thanks. 

[yvesjae]

bro, san yun TheaterWorks? any contact numbers? thanks. 

you could send a pm to Nemesis91

[dyerds]

its by order basis only at abenson for 6,798.
you just have to talk to the pioneer sale rep and give a downpayment.

Salamat sa info? Magkano daw po ang down at gaano po katagal bago makuha? Wala po ba silang ino-offer na payment plan?

[dyerds]

Mga sir sa tingin ko po dami interested on this new DVD Player, wala po ba talaga mag-initiate ng group buy? Just a suggestion.

[jowi]

meron sa sm moa 6.7k plus.. kay nemesis mura na yon. sa trinoma mall lang.

[ravencreed]

Salamat sa info? Magkano daw po ang down at gaano po katagal bago makuha? Wala po ba silang ino-offer na payment plan?

nag-phonecall lang ako, kaya di ko alam kung how much ang down. 2 days daw makukuha ng yung unit.
the reason kaya ayaw pa raw mag-stock sa abenson is becoz meron pa nung 696... gusto munang ubusin yung stock.
talagang resourceful and up-to-date lang ang mga taga-pinoydvd kaya minsan nagugulat pa sila na alam na natin ang mga bagong model

[van_xer]

guys tanong lng malaki ba diff pag naging 1080? wat does upscaling only thru hdmi mean? is this the same as a HDMI player?

[antikryst]

if you dont use HDMI...dvd player will just output the normal dvd resolution...then the tv will upscale the image.

if you upscale it...dvd player will pass on an HD image to the tv already.

[van_xer]

a ganun..ayos! 
tnx anti..congrats sa r81 hehe

can i still use my htq20 as ht while using this dvd player?

[antikryst]

van: thats why i didnt get the home theater option anymore. it doesnt have any inputs for surround sound. it will lose its surround capability when you use another player. you know what...i dont see a difference from the normal player it replaced...i dont think its worth losing surround for that. baka meron naman but its not noticable even when i was looking for the difference in PQ when i switched players.

[van_xer]

really? guess stik muna ko sa player ko til nex year..

[John E.]

meron sa sm moa 6.7k plus.. kay nemesis mura na yon. sa trinoma mall lang.

where in trinoma mall? kindly post or PM thanks.

[gearhead]

posting some promising reviews from avforums. as usual, YMMV  :

MrSynner@avsforums wrote:

Got my black multi-region model from AVLand on Monday.

Good points:

Upscales very well.
Actually, very VERY well - all the way up to 1080p (although my telly only goes up to 1080i) SACD and DVD-Audio sound fabulous. According to the manual, it will stream DVD-A and SACD, as well as Dobly and DTS via HDMI. Does that make it HDMI v1.3? Can't test this, as I don't have HDMI on my amp (and there are NO v1.3 HDMI amps available, AFAIK).

Has so far played everything I've tried - including DVD+RW recordings (which my old Pioneer 565 player couldn't handle)
Doesn't sound like a hoover when spinning up a disc, unlike my now binned Samsung 950. Happily talked to my iPOD (and charged it) when I plugged it into the USB port. Could play music from it too - although it won't read the disc structure, leaving me selecting bizarrely named files at random.

Bad:

It's fugly with the exposed USB port (no dustcap or cover on it) to the left of the facia, and an unsightly bright red '1080p!' sticker on an otherwise black faceplate. Terrible (white!) remote, that matches the player in no way whatsoever.

Worst of all - Lipsynch drifts about a bit - can be cured with judicious use of the stop or pause button, but still annoying, as my TV is always a fraction of a second behind the sound, and the elderly Denon amp doesn't have lipsynch adjustment - and nor does the Pioneer.

Still rather pleased with it though.

a comparison between the dv600 and tosh HD-A1:

degsmurr@avsforums wrote:

Hi all, as promised........couldn't tear myself away. Using my HD-A1 HD-DVD as a reference point herewith is my observations:

Upscaling Facilities - Better than HD-A1, but the HD-A1 only upscales to 1080i anyway. Comparing the two machines using 1080i upscaling the Pioneer just has the edge on closeups. When switching to 1080p there is a visible improvement in detail over 1080i. This is using my Panny PT-AE1000 please note!

DVD Playback - Played all R1 and R2 discs I threw at except DVD copies using ISO files, which means it will only play DVD-Video, this has included original DVD's and copies on DVD-R. DVD+R, DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL. Picture quality in all cases were excellent, but of course the Pioneeer loses out to the HD-A1on HD quality but is the best I have seen so far.

Audio - My set up includes the Sony 1200ES amp which is fed by a coaxial from the Pioneer and optical from the HD-A1. Excellent audio from both machines but I couldn't detect any discernible difference between the two. I have not tried the USB port as I have no need to use it as yet, but I understand it will play most files, incuding DivX.

Aesthetics - Very light to handle, can be picked up in one hand! Yes I agree the bright red 1080p is a bit obstrusive but I have got my back to it most of the time! I also agree on the handset which seems a bit out of place on a black machine??? All video and visual settings can be tweaked by using on screen menus.

I am very, very pleased with it's performance so far and look forward to enjoying many more hours going through my DVD collection of R1 and R2 discs again.

Degs

[gearhead]

some more revealing reviews (with the usual disclaimer, e.g. - YMMV )

against the mighty denon 1930:

MrQuint@avsforums wrote:

Well i got my DV600 and i have to say it wipes the floor with the Denon 1930, all my Lip sync issues have gone. Put in The Rock on R1 that was all over the place on the 1930 with Lip Sync, the DV600 is smack on.

Put in various Discs like Jaws, The Rock, Star Wars Ep III on R1 & Monsters Inc, Casino Royal & Midge Ure the rewind tour on R2 and all are perfect Lip Sync wise and the picture is Stunning @ 1080p on my LE40M86.

To top off this little write up i would say anyone who is after an upscaleing DVD player, multi region that judgeing by other comments can play loads of other stuff too, the DV600 is where its at.

Dont Listen to the What HI-FI bag of idiots, listen to the real testers on this forum. Go Buy and enjoy, Simple.

Originally Posted by TommyVecetti
Mr. Quint, how is the upscaling compared to the PS3?

MrQuint@avsforums wrote:

I would say Better, just. The picture seems to have more depth, i was watching the chase at the start of Casino R and there was for def more depth to the pictue, also with the Pioneer DV600 the sound has more depth than the PS3, again only by a smidge, so its the Pioneer DV600 all the way.

But like i said before, if the PS3 was Multi region i would have stuck with that, i do like to have a dedicated player however.

So PS3 for all My Blu Ray and the mighty Pioneer DV600 for all my R1 & R2 DVD's to be upscscaled to 1080p.

[van_xer]

yng philips mas mura ng almost 1k a.. diff nila ng pio 600?

[gearhead]

not if you know where to look. hehe. the 5986K is 5,990... while for less than P500 more you can get the 600AV.

- the philips has karaoke function, pioneer has not.
- pioneer outputs 480i/576i, the philips does not.
   important if you want to have the display do the upscaling.
- the pioneer has optical (audio) out, the philips has not.
- both have 12-bit 108mhz video dac and are fully 1080p.
- both supports a/v playback on a usb port.

i won't say one is better than the other, so take your pick.

[el-el]

AFAIK, Philips DVP5986K/98 does not have DVD-Audio/SACD playback support... Pioneer DV-600AV-S has DVD-Audio/SACD playback support... 

[van_xer]

do i need a HD disc to see the 1080 PQ or any dvd will do?
tnx agen

[skylynx888]

do i need a HD disc to see the 1080 PQ or any dvd will do?
tnx agen

nope, standard def dvds will do, provided your display can output 1080p resolution. 

[jerix]

Just waiting for the review of owners of the 600AV using a 720p pj. 

[Boy Torotot]

not if you know where to look. hehe. the 5986K is 5,990... while for less than P500 more you can get the 600AV.

- the philips has karaoke function, pioneer has not.
- pioneer outputs 480i/576i, the philips does not.
   important if you want to have the display do the upscaling.
- the pioneer has optical (audio) out, the philips has not.
- both have 12-bit 108mhz video dac and are fully 1080p.
- both supports a/v playback on a usb port.

i won't say one is better than the other, so take your pick.

so where to look? i think the new 5986K already have the 480i/576i output(accrding to manual) and the optical out. it already has DTS support which the previous model lacks. (see the pioneer specs http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvp5986k_98/dvp5986k_98_pss_aen.pdf; manual here http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/d/dvp5986k_98/dvp5986k_98_dfu_eng.pdf)

the advantage of the pioneer i'm seeing is the DVD-Audio/SACD playback support stated earlier, and would still go with this player. pa-pm na lang po saan best kumuha nito. thnx!

[slayer]

Scoured the whole ayalacenter for this yesterday... Wed or Thurs daw ang dating.

[gearhead]

i think the new 5986K already have the 480i/576i output(accrding to manual) and the optical out. it already has DTS support which the previous model lacks.

the advantage of the pioneer i'm seeing is the DVD-Audio/SACD playback support stated earlier, and would still go with this player.

nope... the philips has no optical out/s-video out. it also doesn't output 480i/576i but straight to progressive already (480p/576p). it do has formal DTS support now as compared to the 5965 w/c is only available thru a hack.

so where to look?  pa-pm na lang po saan best kumuha nito. thnx!

Scoured the whole ayalacenter for this yesterday... Wed or Thurs daw ang dating.

well, our pdvd meister here sir nemesis has this unit at his store in trinoma, theaterworks at a very attractive price. 

you can visit his site here: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.504

[slayer]

gearhead, yeah... read they have it there.  Unfortunately, Trinoma is too far for me. 

[van_xer]

i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?

just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe

[jvm]

i hav no idea how 1080 looks like.. so when i upscale from 480i to 1080i should i expect a big change?

just want to make sure before i spend another 10k hehe

480i to 1080i - big change for me. Buying the 696 is worth it for me. If the 600 is said to be better than the 696, I'd like to buy one also Is it?

The USB is also a plus, even if they're at par at 1080i.

Have anybody compared the 696 vs. 600 at 1080i/720p?

[gearhead]

got my unit yesterday courtesy of theaterworks (trinoma). haven't really gotten past testing the audio section first. di ko pa kasi na-setup ang pj ko and wala pa rin akong hdmi cable.

initial impression is really very good... excellent audio performance whether through coax or analog through the L/R output. will be testing the optical out probably this evening. my philips 5500s compared to this sounds a bit sterile. now, between the digital out and analog out, the former has more horizontal and vertical spread, but the analog one has more body. bass is more rounded with the 600 as i noticed dati pa that my hk avr's low end seems a bit edgy (comparing to a marantz avr naman). they have about as much detail though delivered quite differently. so no worries whether you use this as a plain cd transport or a standalone cd player.

just remember though that i'm essentially comparing my avr's onboard dac and the pio 600's dac (burr-brown? haven't heard one yet, but if it's the one on this player... it sounded really good). as usual, us having different setups.... YMMV!!! 

[yygoob]

 GUYS will this dvd player be any good to people who does'nt have an HDMI capable TV? that is is would there be any benefit or improvements? im currently using a pio383s thanks