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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #60 on: Aug 03, 2007 at 07:55 AM »
Ganda!  :)

Painum ka naman dyan ser! EB tayo sa inyo!  :D :D :D

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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #61 on: Aug 03, 2007 at 01:33 PM »
CLASSY set-up! Excellent! CONGRATULATIONS! :D

hataw na dedicated HT room. congrats

Ganda!  :)

Painum ka naman dyan ser! EB tayo sa inyo!  :D :D :D

Superb!

Thanks, guys.  :)

Pinaghirapan talaga ito. Dami years in preparation ... at hanggang ngayon, may mga upgrades pa rin but not as much as before.
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #62 on: Aug 03, 2007 at 09:57 PM »
Magnificent setup sir !!!

only in my dream would i have this setup........ :-[ :-[ :-[

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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #63 on: Aug 03, 2007 at 11:56 PM »
Grabe! I love your theater man! Classic ang dating ng interior! Pati mga lumang equipment napakinabangan pa rin! Galing! 5 thumbs up!! Akin na lang yung VHS mo kung ayaw mo na gamitin!

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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #64 on: Aug 06, 2007 at 09:59 AM »
Magnificent setup sir !!!

only in my dream would i have this setup........ :-[ :-[ :-[

congratulations!

Grabe! I love your theater man! Classic ang dating ng interior! Pati mga lumang equipment napakinabangan pa rin! Galing! 5 thumbs up!! Akin na lang yung VHS mo kung ayaw mo na gamitin!

Thanks!

Chicksman ... Tungkol sa S-VHS player ko, sinabi ko na nga na magandang paper weight sya, eh! E kailangan ko sya kasi dami ko paper. Yung panrolyo ng damo ... Joke lang. Hehe.  ;D  ;D
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #65 on: Aug 06, 2007 at 12:47 PM »
Sir, I scrolled over again...& again ... it's really dream theater came TRUE, cozy place with traditional english ambiance, but most specially the system set-up. seguro masarap din e-play dyan some classical musical music, like one of my faves; Fanfare for the common man... ;D  ;D

Great.... :)
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #66 on: Aug 06, 2007 at 01:34 PM »
Sir, I scrolled over again...& again ... it's really dream theater came TRUE, cozy place with traditional english ambiance, but most specially the system set-up. seguro masarap din e-play dyan some classical musical music, like one of my faves; Fanfare for the common man... ;D  ;D

Great.... :)

Thanks! Actually, after napagod ako manood ng sine, inaakyat ko screen para kita ang painting, nakikinig ako ng music at nagbabasa ng book. Latest book ko is "The Beatles"  ;D kaya nakikinig din ako Beatles music. Pero sarap nga to listen to classical music bago ka matulog. Sarap tulog pagkatapos. Pero sa music, the system sounds much better with all speakers umaandar, kahit CD. Ung Dolby PLIIx or DTS:Neo 6 or one of the music DSP's of the Denon AVR. That's the way kasi the system is set up. Optimized for multi-channel. Kaya d sya gaya ng system ni Alvin or ni Superman. Alvin has a multi-channel system but currently, it's optimized for 2-channel. Ang galing. E si Superman ay 2-channel talaga, turntable pa! Pero happy na ako sa multi-channel ko.

Actually, I keep updating the texts of the descriptions of my theater ... and every now and then, I add more photos. Matagal na rin kasi ang theater ko and there are a lot of small details na ginawa ko or na-experience ko. Kaya as I remember things, I share them with you guys.

Cheers.  :)
« Last Edit: Aug 06, 2007 at 02:59 PM by streetsmart »
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #67 on: Aug 07, 2007 at 08:29 AM »
Sir m just inspired to see more pics of your HT.  ;)
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 1 Aug 07)
« Reply #68 on: Aug 08, 2007 at 10:02 PM »
Sir m just inspired to see more pics of your HT.  ;)

Just posted a couple more pictures. I hope these continue to inspire you!  :)
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 8 Aug 07)
« Reply #69 on: Aug 09, 2007 at 08:57 AM »

Man! Ganda ng 5th element screenshots!
Bro, is this SD dvd passing thru ur HD PJ?
Congrats again!
btw, if ever iam in mnl i stay in paco....malapit lang sayo ;D
would be cool to see your HT...iam inviting myself na...
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 8 Aug 07)
« Reply #70 on: Aug 09, 2007 at 12:05 PM »
Man! Ganda ng 5th element screenshots!
Bro, is this SD dvd passing thru ur HD PJ?
Congrats again!
btw, if ever iam in mnl i stay in paco....malapit lang sayo ;D
would be cool to see your HT...iam inviting myself na...
 ;D

Thanks! SD dvd lang ang ginagamit ko pero dumadaan nga sa video processor and the pj can handle 1080p input. Wala pa ako HD-DVD or BD. Iniisip ko pa rin.

Ang lapit nga namin sa Paco. Anak ko nga ay nag-aaral sa Chinese school sa Paco. Walking distance sa bahay. PM mo lang ako pag pupunta ka Manila para bisita ka sa HT. Better kung weekend. Dala ka pulutan.  ;D
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Re: My dream theater (photos updated 8 Aug 07)
« Reply #71 on: Aug 20, 2007 at 11:19 AM »
I thought it would be interesting to post some of my thoughts on the “law of diminishing returns,” as that applies to home theater. I also wanted to narrate this from my personal and honest point of view, not just mouthing what you can read in articles.

When you get hooked to the home theater hobby, there are a couple of moments when you get really excited. That’s when you have an improvement in your system which is a kind of quantum leap over the previous. In my personal experience, those “wow” moments have been the following:

1. The first time I listened to a 5.1 system, with the bullets zinging from behind you and the planes roaring round you. My first recollection of a 5.1 system was in the late 80's but I got my first system in the early 90's. Up to now, this is the hook that catches most new customers. Kaya bibili ka ng basic 5.1 system.

2. The DVD. This was such a vast improvement from VHS and laser disc. Kaya bili ka ng DVD player and, more expensive, all those DVD bala. I recall this happened in the late 90's.

3. Dolby Digital and DTS. This was light years better than Dolby Pro-Logic. Kaya bili ka ng sound processor (or receiver) that can handle DD and DTS. This happened at the same time as DVD's.

4. I personally did not see that huge an improvement between 5.1 and 6.1 or 7.1 but there is a big difference between Dolby Pro-Logic and Dolby Pro-Logic II. Kaya bili ka uli ng bagong processor. This was already in the early 2000's.

5. The first time you see a projector and big screen. WOW! The big screen makes a huge difference. Kaya bili ka ng projector at screen!

6. The selection and improvement of speakers. Very often, you can hear huge improvements in sound as you buy or upgrade to better speakers. I must have upgraded my speakers 6 or 7 times. Nevertheless, it is very easy to waste money in speakers. In my view, if you want to upgrade your speakers, it is better to look at a new speaker that you are pretty certain will be much much better than your current set, not just marginally better. It's that "wow" factor. Oftentimes, that means saving up to buy much more expensive speakers (easily twice the cost of your present speakers) or finding a top-notch 2nd hand speaker set at less than half the original cost. Patience at swerte na lang yun.

7. The power amplifier. As you upgrade your speakers, you realize that your power amp is not bringing out the best in your speaker kaya napapabili ka ng matching power amp. Actually, what happens is bibili ka muna ng receiver. Later, unti unti ka bibili ng separate power amp kaya nagiging useless tuloy ang built-in power amp ng receiver mo.

8. The room. In my case, and I think this is true with a lot of people, this has been the most expensive part of my hobby kasi gagawa ka ng dedicated room with all the expensive acoustic treatments and furniture. Kailangan mo talaga ng consultant because it’s very expensive to make a mistake. You can change equipment but how can you change your room? I did a lot of research before I built my theater – and I can tell you that it was a fun experience!

9. Digital projectors. My previous projector was a very good Barco 3-gun CRT projector, but it really pales in comparison to my Sony VPL-VW100. In all aspects except maybe black level. For many years, CRT projectors reigned supreme pero parang LP sila na nabaon ng digital technology ng CD. Yet, it may have been only last year that digital technology reached a point wherein prices became affordable to a lot of people.

10. Video processor. A good video processor, combined with a good projector, can produce magic. Parang HD, or at least very close to it. Kaya ako napabili ng DVDO VP-50. For a long time, only Faroudja and Runco had good processors. In just the last few years, several companies have developed new technologies and have significantly brought down the price.

11. HDMI cables. Previously, I had an S-video cable with booster. I had also tried component cables but there was virtually no difference with the S-video cable. The S-video cable has a huge improvement over composite cables. Well, the HDMI cable has the same huge improvement over S-video. I guess the reason is that now, there is a pure digital signal from the DVD player to the video processor to the projector. HDMI is really new, baka last year lang.

12. Room-correction technology. It has always been recognized that any room (except the extremely expensive anechoic chambers or similar professional set-ups) will influence the acoustics so that you have a less than flat response across the frequency spectrum. This is why there had been attempts by some companies to market room-correction systems, such as the JBL Synthesis system and the Direct-Drive subwoofers of Velodyne. Both are extremely expensive. Relatively recently (maybe just the past 2 years), we have new technology from “Audyssey” that provides excellent room correction and packages it in receivers (Denon, Marantz, etc.). The improvement in sound is tremendous. I have this technology in my Denon receiver. Kulang na lang is the room-correction para sa subwoofer, and this is retailed by Velodyne as their SMS-1. Baka yun ang sunod na bilhin ko.

Before the Audyssey technology was available, all that you could do was set the levels of the volumes of the speakers with a Radioshack SPL meter. My receivers also had built-in parametric equalizers so that in theory, I could do the room-correction, provided I had the proper equipment – which is pretty expensive and I don’t think it could have done as good a job as the Audyssey.

13. I want to add SACD and DVD-Audio. These were developed in the late 90's and at that time, baka $2000 ang mga unang player. To be honest, I only got a chance to listen to these recently - my focus had shifted so much to HT, not audio. But the "WOW" factor was definitely there. Ibang iba ang dating ng SACD and DVD-A.


In addition to equipment, the “services” which have given me a “WOW” response have been the following:

1. Video calibration. I have the Avia and Video Essentials discs, which allow you to do the 5 basic adjustments: contrast, brightness, sharpness, color and hue. However, it cannot calibrate color temperature and gray-scale. If you don’t do this calibration, your blacks may look blue or red, and in general the colors will be wrong. Unfortunately, you need very special equipment and software to do that and I honestly don’t see anything similar to Audyssey cropping up in the near future for video. You need to request someone to do it for you. Here, let me put in a shameless plug for Alvin, who did the video calibration for my projector and the improvement has been huge. Thanks a lot, Alvin.

2. Speaker placement. There have been too many things written about the importance of speaker placement. All I can say is that they are all true. The improvements can be huge.


Among those things which are often hyped but which have not personally impressed me are the following:

1. Cables and interconnects. There are a lot of extremely expensive cables and interconnects, which promise audio (or video) nirvana. I have a few cables which are pretty expensive and honestly, I can’t tell the difference between them and cables which are fat, well-shielded and with good-quality plugs, but which cost 80% to 90% less. Plus, you need to regularly tighten all connections and use a contact cleaner.

2. Line conditioners and similar stuff. I have a decent AVR (with a time-delay function) and a good line conditioner, but I used to have an “active” UPS. It took the Meralco power, cleaned that and its output was continuous squeaky clean power. That UPS eventually died and I haven’t replaced it because I honestly can’t tell the difference.

3. DVD players. I already narrated in a previous post how, many years ago, I bought a high-end DVD player which turned out to have poorer picture quality than a cheap Chinese player. I feel that the current crop of high-end DVD players owe their higher costs to the video processing – deinterlacing and scaling mainly. However, I already have a high-end video processor so it’s pretty useless to buy one of these expensive players.


I am pretty happy with my set-up now and I guess have come to the point of diminishing returns when I better be prepared to spend a huge amount of money if I want to hear or see anything better. Actually, I have been thinking of a speaker upgrade – Revel, JMLab, B&W Nautilus … Pero parang kotse na yun, after which I may want to upgrade my power amps! Kaya hintay na lang ako muna. Ganun kasi itong hobby. As your system improves, you have to spend more and more money to make any discernible difference in your system.

The point that I wanted to make is that you should be careful about where you spend your hard-earned money when you upgrade your stuff. Be patient. Wait for the right moment and make sure there is that “WOW” factor. I don't know if a lot of people realize that a few years ago, in order to get a really good picture, you had to buy a Barco, Runco or Vidikron 9" CRT which cost P2 million and a Faroudja quadrupler which cost P1 million. Today, you can get that same quality for 10% of the price! Say a Sony Pearl and DVDO VP-30.

I guess all of this leads to HD-DVD and Blue Ray! Kasi di pa nga ako bumibili. The other day, nagbisita si DTS-ES and he brought his HD-DVD stuff. Ngayon, nag-iisip na naman ako, not because of the equipment but because of the bala. But I guess that’s the subject of another post.

I hope this long post was useful and I would appreciate comments.

Cheers!
« Last Edit: Aug 22, 2007 at 09:40 AM by streetsmart »
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Wow! sir streetsmart.... nothing left to say.... :o  ;D  8)  :D
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ang haba bro! "the law of diminishing returns"....up to a point that you feel the need to spend no longer for an improvement, but only for another new toy, for a new sonic character, for visual delight.
there is only 1 goal, and its not really good sound, nor good picture....its self satisfaction :)
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Wow! sir streetsmart.... nothing left to say.... :o  ;D  8)  :D

ang haba bro! "the law of diminishing returns"....up to a point that you feel the need to spend no longer for an improvement, but only for another new toy, for a new sonic character, for visual delight.
there is only 1 goal, and its not really good sound, nor good picture....its self satisfaction :)

Thanks for the comments.

Well said, accastil.. I guess my point is that we should be patient and think things quite carefully before making any upgrade and not just buy for the sake of buying or showing off. Kung wala ka munang upgrade, bili ka na lang ng bala, but even there you should buy only what you know you will really like.
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Eto example ko of downgrade!

I had a simple but decent system sa living area ko. My preamp was a MacIntosh C32, paired with a Bryston 3B power amp.



After a while, may defect ang Mac saka I wanted to try out a tube amp, so I bought a Golden Tube integrated amp.  :) Actually, partly tube and partly SS. Binili ko kay Jim - ung nasa Spectra ngayon but used to be at Sights & Sounds, katabing shop sa Park Square 1.



But after a while, nasira ung Golden Tube and it turned out that nagsara ang kumpanya so it was impossible to get parts.  ??? While thinking this over, I realized that halos di ko na ginagamit ung system ko sa living area except when I had a party or as background music sa dinner. So, I decided to get the cheapest possible amp na binili ko rin kay Jim. Konzert!  :)



Bakya nga but for background music, it was definitely still good. Besides, ang ganda naman ng cabinet nya.  :) Mas mahal pa nga ang cabinet.  ;D



At maganda pa rin ang speakers. Celestion 300. Excellent speakers, but they can't play too loud.





Bottom-line is very happy na ako sa kanya, for its purpose.  :) If I want some serious listening, punta ako sa home theater ko.
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I think sir, 'di downgrade. it just happened that mc and golden tube gone offline. :D Konzert SS int. amp for another taste...  :o I like the bronze enlayed cabinet... ;D nice combi with celestion... 8)
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streetsmart,

Very wise words from an avid and serious enthusiast to all newbies in this hobby  :) Very great set up! Top notch but very understated  :)

Sorry I didnt have time to drop by. I hope the invitation still stands  :D

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I think sir, 'di downgrade. it just happened that mc and golden tube gone offline. :D Konzert SS int. amp for another taste...  :o I like the bronze enlayed cabinet... ;D nice combi with celestion... 8)

Thanks sa comments.

Actually, marami pang gumagamit ng lumang McIntosh. Tingnan mo lang si mb88.  :) They are really very good equipment though hard to maintain. And by the way, buhay pa rin ang McIntosh audio company! Ang Golden Tube lang talaga ang namatay.

Yung cabinet is from Thailand pero bili ko dito. Talagang sinukat ko sya at kasyang kasya lang ang amp. Had to remove the doors in order to put the amp inside.  ;D
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streetsmart,

Very wise words from an avid and serious enthusiast to all newbies in this hobby  :) Very great set up! Top notch but very understated  :)

Sorry I didnt have time to drop by. I hope the invitation still stands  :D

Thanks, even if you make me feel old.  :( And honestly, I just want to share my experience with others.

Of course the invitation still stands. Long weekend coming again.  :)
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I had the chance to visit streetsmart’s place last sat. and I got to see his theater room and his topnotch expensive a/v gears at wow! npaka-elegante naman talaga.  Compared to the posted pics on the first page I wasn’t expecting the room to be that big and spacious in real life but it was big, sarap mag-relax and manuod kahit 24/7 doon na din matulog, pwede! The high wave ceiling adds to the illusion that the viewing area alone(excluding the toilet) is around 70sq.m. when in fact accdg. To him its only about 45sq.m. w/c is still bigger than normal. Everything in the room is neatly put in place fr. the dvd shelves, a/v racks, cocktail bar, seating and yes . . . it even has its own toilet inside.
Most . . . no. . . make that all of his audio and video equipments are top of the line well, high-end at least to me and none of them comes cheap. He even showed me some of his 24K gold plated audio cds. . .sorry for my ignorance pero meron pala talaga nito? But fr. all the a/v gears in the room, it’s the DVDO iScan & Sony Ruby that I’m interested with and for his 103” screen I would say sir Mark did a great job investing w/ the tandem. The DVDO processed the S-dvd movies that we played(fifth element, kingkong, n. jones concert, etc.) so clearly, colors are alive and vibrant. No wonder he hasn’t taken the Hi-def format route yet, of course he can afford it anytime but who needs it if he can get almost the same PQ w/ much cheaper S-dvd movies. He thought it wud be better if I bring my hd dvd player w/ me to test and compare so, I did. We picked scene 5 of kingkong hd dvd first & compared the standard version using iScan vp50’s video processing. Tho I find the resolution of the hi-def version seem a bit better, at 7m. viewing distance fr. the 103” screen, the 1080p processed dvd version is up to par in terms of color accuracy. And compared to 720p upscaled(run same scene when I got home) noise is less evident but more detailed & clearer resolution, you also get almost same 3D feel when viewing hi-def movies. The dvdo iScan paired w/ a 1080p native PJ truly shines when used w/ S-dvds. Its an upscaled 1080i/p w/o the blur plus the above mentioned improvements.
Thanks to sir Mark for the wonderful HT experience . . . mas BI ka kesa sa akin sir  ;D pero . . . mas madami ako natutunan lalo na sa audio at SARS management. Actually pabili na naman sana ako ng speakers but after hearing your insights and experiences i learned to love what i have right now and decide to keep it for a long while not unless i hear something different, that WOW factor. Kaya once again . . . Thank you & to your wife for the delicious snack an of course sa . . . . . . . . . red wine.

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Most . . . no. . . make that all of his audio and video equipments are top of the line well, high-end at least to me

D naman top of the line. Eto ang top of the line! Thiel speakers. This was on sale sa Audio by Design several years ago at a relatively low price. Grabe tunog. Gusto ko sanang bilhin pero sabi ng vendor, dami na raw ito pinaputok na power amp kaya you would need to buy HUGE power amps to drive it. 2 ohms daw kasi. Kaya umatras ako.  :(



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He even showed me some of his 24K gold plated audio cds. . .sorry for my ignorance pero meron pala talaga nito?

These are Sony CDs. Super-bit mapping. Parang super-bit DVD ng Sony. I don't think the gold helps to improve the sound. They just make the CDs less prone to humidity, mold, etc.

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The dvdo iScan paired w/ a 1080p native PJ truly shines when used w/ S-dvds. Its an upscaled 1080i/p w/o the blur plus the above mentioned improvements.

That's true, but as we agreed, mas maganda ang black detail ng HD-DVD, even at a 7m distance. Problem though is that the difference is not that big and maybe you can even adjust brightness to compensate for that. Kaya nga parang gusto ko munang maghintay till the technology stabilizes and prices go down, particularly ang bala nya.


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Thank you & to your wife for the delicious snack an of course sa . . . . . . . . . red wine.

Ang lakas mo pala uminom!  ;D Talo mo ako. I had a good time too. Cheers!
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Yes sir, bumawi ang black level ng in-adjust mo yung brightness halos pareho na din sa hd dvd.


Ang lakas mo pala uminom!  ;D Talo mo ako. I had a good time too. Cheers!

Di naman ;D . . . napapalagok lang everytime i-close up si Naomi Watts :D :D

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well.... what more can i say. the pictures and the article/s (wow, parang magazine) speak for themselves. what i'm most impressed is the high ceiling sa ht room. for sure it adds to the ambiance especially concert/music cd's/dvd's. curious lang ako, yung mga kids nyo po ba is allowed to operate your equipment, or basically talagang nakikinood lang sila? parang more of for daddy's exclusive use ang ht room?  ;D
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well.... what more can i say. the pictures and the article/s (wow, parang magazine) speak for themselves. what i'm most impressed is the high ceiling sa ht room. for sure it adds to the ambiance especially concert/music cd's/dvd's. curious lang ako, yung mga kids nyo po ba is allowed to operate your equipment, or basically talagang nakikinood lang sila? parang more of for daddy's exclusive use ang ht room?  ;D

Maganda nga ang high ceiling. It improves the natural acoustic qualities of the room, especially sa music. Dami nga ako concert na DVD.  :)

No one can operate the system except me. I think you need to press maybe 12 switches and buttons para umandar siya. D rin masyado ma-appreciate ng bata ang theater unless may bisita sila. Dun lang sila nanonood with the obligatory popcorn.  ;D

A friend of mine is building a home theater. Nagpalagay sya ng Crestron para automated lahat, pati curtains. Isang pindot lang at aandar na. It cost him close to 300,000.  :o
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No one can operate the system except me. I think you need to press maybe 12 switches and buttons para umandar siya. D rin masyado ma-appreciate ng bata ang theater unless may bisita sila. Dun lang sila nanonood with the obligatory popcorn.  ;D

for sure very popular among their many friends ang kids n'yo.  ;D
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A friend of mine is building a home theater. Nagpalagay sya ng Crestron para automated lahat, pati curtains. Isang pindot lang at aandar na. It cost him close to 300,000.  :o

For 300k, I will just switch em all manually. I earn 1k every viewing. By 300 movies sulit na yung manual operation.  ;D

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For 300k, I will just switch em all manually. I earn 1k every viewing. By 300 movies sulit na yung manual operation.  ;D

Agree ako dun. Grabe ang cost and each time you upgrade your equipment, babalik ka sa supplier at tatagain ka na naman.

However, I have another more sinister reason.  ;D Kasi kung isang pindot lang at aandar na lahat, e di lalaspagin ng mga bata ang home theater system. Mabuti pa at manood na lang sila sa TV sa kabilang kwarto.  ;D ;D
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Re: My dream theater
« Reply #88 on: Sep 10, 2007 at 01:33 PM »

That's true, but as we agreed, mas maganda ang black detail ng HD-DVD, even at a 7m distance. Problem though is that the difference is not that big and maybe you can even adjust brightness to compensate for that. Kaya nga parang gusto ko munang maghintay till the technology stabilizes and prices go down, particularly ang bala nya.


Great theater! ;D tanong ko lang how the DVDO compares to true hi def when you sit closer to the screen?

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However, I have another more sinister reason.  ;D Kasi kung isang pindot lang at aandar na lahat, e di lalaspagin ng mga bata ang home theater system. Mabuti pa at manood na lang sila sa TV sa kabilang kwarto.  ;D ;D 

tama... yan ang mga practical considerations.  :D
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