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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #30 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 01:51 AM »
Sirs,

I'm thinking of pairing these speakers with the Dared MP5 - any feedback on performance or any comments ...recommendations also welcome (budget of 10k-15k on speakers)

now available:


usher s-520 bookshelf speaker (piano black): P12,900 cash
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #31 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 07:21 AM »
Sirs,

I'm thinking of pairing these speakers with the Dared MP5 - any feedback on performance or any comments ...recommendations also welcome (budget of 10k-15k on speakers)

now available:


usher s-520 bookshelf speaker (piano black): P12,900 cash

Maganda yan. Great reviews from those who purchased the speakers. However if I were you id go full SET tube rather than hybrid.  Dared also makes such models if im not mistaken. Its just a few thousand pesos off your budget however the sound that an SET makes is incomparable to the MP5 at least to my ears.
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #32 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 08:32 AM »
Maganda yan. Great reviews from those who purchased the speakers. However if I were you id go full SET tube rather than hybrid.  Dared also makes such models if im not mistaken. Its just a few thousand pesos off your budget however the sound that an SET makes is incomparable to the MP5 at least to my ears.

Sir, any recommendations and estimated price for an entry level SET tube amp? PhP 8k+ lang kasi yung Dared MP5 kaya it got my interest ... i have no idea on the prices of the SET tube amps...TIA
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #33 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 09:31 AM »
examples of Single Ended and Push Pull design Dared Amps on the market:

MP-15




INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (SINGLE-END CLASS A)

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION:

MAX OUTPUT POWER:18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20Hz~20KHz±1.5dB

DISTORTION:≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO:≥86dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY:230mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE:100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE:4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L340xW290xH160mm

WEIGHT:11Kg/set

THE TUBE USED: KT94(KT88,KT90,KT100)x2, 12ax7x2, 12au7x2, 6E2(EM87)x1

SRP. P 25,800.00

VP-16




TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (PUSH-PULL)

MAX OUTPUT POWER: 18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20-20KHz (±1.5dB)

DISTORTION: ≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO: ≥82dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY: 350mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE: 100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE: 4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L320 X W240 X H150 MM

WEIGHT: 10.0Kgs/set

THE TUBE USED: 6P6P(6V6)x4,6N9P(6SL7)X2

Review

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dared2/vp16.html

SRP. P 15,800.00

borrowed specs and pics from wiredstate thread re Dared Amps
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #34 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 10:11 AM »
Sirs,

I'm thinking of pairing these speakers with the Dared MP5 - any feedback on performance or any comments ...recommendations also welcome (budget of 10k-15k on speakers)

now available:


usher s-520 bookshelf speaker (piano black): P12,900 cash


bro.

as per specs of usher s-520 - its 86db /8ohms
http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcomponents/1205usher/
http://www.usheraudiousa.com/products/loudspeakers/usher-series/s-520-shielded

you may wana reconsider your options...medyo low-sensitivity (86db)
i use speakers with 93db sensitivity. tried it with 6bq5/el84 set 4wpc- di kaya bitin: with 6bq5/el84 8-10wpc pushpull  with t-amps & with amx SEkt88 ok kaya pero bitin pa rin. am seriously considering dared vp16 or mp15 but baka mabitin pa rin...

just my 2cents :)
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #35 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM »
examples of Single Ended and Push Pull design Dared Amps on the market:

MP-15




INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (SINGLE-END CLASS A)

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION:

MAX OUTPUT POWER:18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20Hz~20KHz±1.5dB

DISTORTION:≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO:≥86dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY:230mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE:100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE:4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L340xW290xH160mm

WEIGHT:11Kg/set

THE TUBE USED: KT94(KT88,KT90,KT100)x2, 12ax7x2, 12au7x2, 6E2(EM87)x1

SRP. P 25,800.00

VP-16




TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (PUSH-PULL)

MAX OUTPUT POWER: 18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20-20KHz (±1.5dB)

DISTORTION: ≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO: ≥82dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY: 350mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE: 100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE: 4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L320 X W240 X H150 MM

WEIGHT: 10.0Kgs/set

THE TUBE USED: 6P6P(6V6)x4,6N9P(6SL7)X2

Review

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dared2/vp16.html

SRP. P 15,800.00

borrowed specs and pics from wiredstate thread re Dared Amps

I think master rene selling the mp-15 for only 18t ;) Yeah SETs sounds better imhe but lacks in power nga lang but if paired with high sensitivity speakers then Im sure youll be happy with it, tipid pa sa electical consumption :D

As bro syncro suggested there is a TS34.1 SEP amp selling for only 14t, its 2x9w that is very good. There is also a Kef Q1 that you can pair with the TS, for less than 30t may decent tube setup ka na ;)

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #36 on: Nov 27, 2008 at 10:25 AM »
I think master rene selling the mp-15 for only 18t ;) Yeah SETs sounds better imhe but lacks in power nga lang but if paired with high sensitivity speakers then Im sure youll be happy with it, tipid pa sa electical consumption :D

As bro syncro suggested there is a TS34.1 SEP amp selling for only 14t, its 2x9w that is very good. There is also a Kef Q1 that you can pair with the TS, for less than 30t may decent tube setup ka na ;)

my neo10 diy speakers are 93db sensitive pero bitin sa tubes (6bq5/el84.6v6) yes tube amps can drive the neo10s but they cant squeeze out the juice  :) unlike the nadc325bee. pag nagPP naman (el34/6550 etc) eh nawawala ang sweetness, di na nalalayo sa good SS amp (vintage)...i think back in the 50's 60's tubes were really made for highly sensitive speakers (SET with 100db+horns)....as the venerable but eccentric Paul Klipsch once said to the effect: What America needs is a good 5watt amplifier" ;D

its all about matching gears. tradeoffs & compromises here and there. ok sa clarity & details pero bitin sa bass/lf. ok sa bass/lf pero di gaano mahugot ang detalye etc... whats impt to me is the critical midrange  :)
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM »
examples of Single Ended and Push Pull design Dared Amps on the market:

MP-15




INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (SINGLE-END CLASS A)

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION:

MAX OUTPUT POWER:18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20Hz~20KHz±1.5dB

DISTORTION:≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO:≥86dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY:230mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE:100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE:4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L340xW290xH160mm

WEIGHT:11Kg/set

THE TUBE USED: KT94(KT88,KT90,KT100)x2, 12ax7x2, 12au7x2, 6E2(EM87)x1

SRP. P 25,800.00

VP-16




TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

INTEGRATED AMPLIFIER (PUSH-PULL)

MAX OUTPUT POWER: 18W PER CHANNEL

FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20-20KHz (±1.5dB)

DISTORTION: ≤2%

SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO: ≥82dB

INPUT SENSITIVITY: 350mV

INPUT IMPEDANCE: 100K ohm

OUTPUT IMPEDANCE: 4 ohm/8 ohm

SIZE: L320 X W240 X H150 MM

WEIGHT: 10.0Kgs/set

THE TUBE USED: 6P6P(6V6)x4,6N9P(6SL7)X2

Review

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dared2/vp16.html

SRP. P 15,800.00

borrowed specs and pics from wiredstate thread re Dared Amps


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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2009 at 12:59 PM »
Pair the Dared MP5 with Polk Audio Tsi series
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #39 on: Jun 15, 2009 at 02:06 PM »
is it possible replace 6N1(ECC85)x2, 6E2(EM87)x1 with other preamp tube & 1 el84?
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #40 on: Jun 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM »
is it possible replace 6N1(ECC85)x2, 6E2(EM87)x1 with other preamp tube & 1 el84?

if it's for the MP5 then that's a big NO sir!  especially with the el84 replacing the em87...  :)


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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #41 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM »
if it's for the MP5 then that's a big NO sir!  especially with the el84 replacing the em87...  :)



ah ok sir, how about for 6N1(ECC85)x2 with 12AU7, 12AUX? any improvements?  thanks
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #42 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 07:51 PM »
ah ok sir, how about for 6N1(ECC85)x2 with 12AU7, 12AUX? any improvements?  thanks


No ulit sir... most likely substitute would be a 6922/6dj8 tube but I can't remember the exact plate voltage of the tubes used in the MP5 so I cannot give a sure recommendation. The usual disclaimer applies.


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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #43 on: Jul 15, 2009 at 06:56 PM »
Alloa all ...

I currently have a Dared MP5 reserved for purchase, am researching for a nice pair of speakers to match them with. What speakers would be recommended? ^^

TIA

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #44 on: Jul 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM »
Alloa all ...

I currently have a Dared MP5 reserved for purchase, am researching for a nice pair of speakers to match them with. What speakers would be recommended? ^^

TIA

Audition is still the key brader..........but if you insist & twist my arm, you might like to consider this:  ;)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=97481.0

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #45 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 07:54 AM »
I've heard them power Klipsch Reference and Polk TSi towers without a problem basta maliit lang ang room. Kung bigger rooms siguro or kung malakas ka patugtog hanap ka ng sensitive speaks. It's better to hear them for yourself siyempre.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #46 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 01:57 PM »
Audition is still the key brader..........but if you insist & twist my arm, you might like to consider this:  ;)

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=97481.0

Hmm ... consider your arm twisted. ^^ Looks very interesting. Meron kayo pair na pwede ko i-audition pag pick up nung dared? :D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #47 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 02:00 PM »
I've heard them power Klipsch Reference and Polk TSi towers without a problem basta maliit lang ang room. Kung bigger rooms siguro or kung malakas ka patugtog hanap ka ng sensitive speaks. It's better to hear them for yourself siyempre.

Thanks for the info bro. Hmm ... gaano kaliit ang maliit? Rough estimate ko dun sa room ko is 4x5 meters, maybe smaller. Pasok na kaya yun?  ???

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #48 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 02:00 PM »
Hmm ... consider your arm twisted. ^^ Looks very interesting. Meron kayo pair na pwede ko i-audition pag pick up nung dared? :D

he has one of the first pairs I believe...

also consider breaking Macdon's leg and he'll surely let you audition his other gears...  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #49 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 03:13 PM »
he has one of the first pairs I believe...

also consider breaking Macdon's leg and he'll surely let you audition his other gears...  ;D ;D ;D

Ngek - malulumpo na ako nyan :D ;D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #50 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 03:24 PM »
A single-ended PENTODE such as the MP15 is different from a single-ended TRIODE such as those based on a 2A3, 45, 300B, 50, etc. As you are well aware of, single-ended triodes need efficient and high-sensitivity speakers to sing.

The Dared MP5 is a good compromise, utilizing the tube front end and SS power amplifier.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #51 on: Jul 16, 2009 at 04:16 PM »
he has one of the first pairs I believe...

also consider breaking Macdon's leg and he'll surely let you audition his other gears...  ;D ;D ;D

 ;D  ;D  ;D

Nakakatakot nga lang gawin yan .... madali ako ma SARS e. Maubos ko na naman ang savings ko ng indi oras pagkarinig ng gears nya.  :D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #52 on: Jul 25, 2009 at 09:42 PM »
;D  ;D  ;D

Nakakatakot nga lang gawin yan .... madali ako ma SARS e. Maubos ko na naman ang savings ko ng indi oras pagkarinig ng gears nya.  :D

Enjoy the Dared MP5 brader! Partnered with the Proac clones = sleepless nights!   ;D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #53 on: Jul 26, 2009 at 09:30 AM »
Hahahaha. Salamat brader! Eto, gamit gamit ko sya ngayon habang reply, re-exploring yung buong music collection ko for details na indi halata dati. Naka headphones pa nga lang muna, maya ko pa makakabit yung proacs. Malamang balik uli sa collection pagka kabit.  Hahaha. :D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #54 on: Jul 27, 2009 at 05:47 PM »
i haven't really been reading up... i'm interested in this amp... where is it available?

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #55 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 03:17 AM »
i haven't really been reading up... i'm interested in this amp... where is it available?

Hmm ... from what I've read, discontinued na ang production nya, so baka mahirap nang maghanap ng brand new talaga. If I remember right, ang banggit sa akin ni mardon, sa watt hifi nya nabili yung unit nya.

Meron din ako nakita dito sa forums na post about an MP5 clone :
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=93465.0

Watt hifi din yung nabanggit na seller.

Hope that helps ;)

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #56 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 09:02 AM »
i read somewhere that the MP-5 is also a clone of the fatman i-tube amp. saw this amp at 5th ave. yun nga lang the MP-5 is the most reasonably priced among them.

http://www.fat-man.co.uk/docs/product_07/iTube_ValveDock.shtml

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #57 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 09:06 AM »
Hmm ... napaisip lang ako kung meron na nga bang makukuhang feedback regarding mga magandang tubes pang palit dun sa stock na 6n1.

Sayang yung nakita kong listing para sa telefunken ecc85 na mura, naubusan ng stock, mahal na yung iba na nakikita ko. Meron pa ba ibang suggestions? :D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #58 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM »
i read somewhere that the MP-5 is also a clone of the fatman i-tube amp. saw this amp at 5th ave. yun nga lang the MP-5 is the most reasonably priced among them.

http://www.fat-man.co.uk/docs/product_07/iTube_ValveDock.shtml



Actually, Dared makes for fatman tube - the reason na parang inalis ni dared sa catalogs nya si MP5 is because the european company fatman wants dared to make only for them.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #59 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 10:58 AM »
Hmm ... napaisip lang ako kung meron na nga bang makukuhang feedback regarding mga magandang tubes pang palit dun sa stock na 6n1.

Sayang yung nakita kong listing para sa telefunken ecc85 na mura, naubusan ng stock, mahal na yung iba na nakikita ko. Meron pa ba ibang suggestions? :D

There's also a thread about that but cant recall at the moment - contact jojod as I'm sure he would know ;)