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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #60 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM »
There's also a thread about that but cant recall at the moment - contact jojod as I'm sure he would know ;)

Hehehe. Thanks mon, will do.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #61 on: Jul 28, 2009 at 01:22 PM »
Actually, Dared makes for fatman tube - the reason na parang inalis ni dared sa catalogs nya si MP5 is because the european company fatman wants dared to make only for them.

uu nga and hindi yata sila nag kasundo ;D anyways dared has some neat new tube amps. sayang nga lang at few models lang ang available dito and some old models are for pre-order. i like to audition the VP 20 pa naman ::)
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #62 on: Oct 20, 2009 at 03:32 PM »
almost a year into my dared mp5 I think I can answer some of MY OWN questions already.

For those lang shempre who have newly discovered the Dared MP5 and had similar questions to what I had.

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1. What's the difference between a Class D amp (ie Trends T-amp) and a Class AB amp (mp5)?  In car audio terms we use class D for mostly mono sub amps.

I never got around to trying out the Trends T-amp in a home setup. I tried it out sa SnS when I was doing a side by side comparison between that and the Dared. The sound is very different even when the same source is used. My preference obviously went to the Dared.


2. sensitivity rating. The higher the better? I also observed they're usually more expensive. What is the lowest "allowable" (by your standards) should someone consider?

The higher the better specially for the Dared MP5.

3. The USB slots indicate that this would be a good alternative to my Pc's Klipsch ProMedia 5.1. Given that I will use these as part of my new PC Speaker setup do you think this would be advisable? Will the relative proximity of the user to the speakers / monitor hinder the sound? Is this setup even advisable?

It's a very good alternative to the Klipsch Promedia 5.1 thx. I use it mainly for sound tripping on FLAC audio. So it's definitely advisable. The listener's relative proximity to the speakers is a bit problematic since you don't get to listen to the best sound. You need a comfortable computer chair with wheels. This way once you hear a good recording you can scoot back and listen from a far. An additional 5 feet away from the speakers makes a WORLD of difference! However, this setup is still advisable.

4. What brand new speakers would you recommend for this? Up to 5k? Up to 10k? 15K?
I auditioned a number of speakers. I tried somewharfdales, paradigm, mission, klipsch, infinity. In the end I went with the Paradigm Atom v5. They're not the most expensive ones nor the cheapest one either. But price / performance - wise it got my vote. It took awhile to break-in the system but after awhile the sound just blossomed. It sounds great. A bit lacking on the bass but that's acceptable for me since I didn't have it in a fully ideal environment.


5. Interconnects. Would the stock ones last me awhile? Any recommendations on this?
Didn't bother with stock wires. I immediately got gold plated banana plugs and some good wiring.


6. There were reviews online that said it came with Sennheiser headphones. Is this true?
mine didn't come with headphones. I don't think anyone else's came with it.


7. There are a couple of inputs. Obviously I want to connect it via USB to my PC, but what if I want to connect my ipod to it? Is there a switch somewhere for this or do I yank out the USB?
there's a small switch at the back


Overall I love my dared mp5. I'm half hearted about going for an upgrade :)

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this is the thread I've been looking for!

i'm a veteran of the HTIB scene as well as car audio but VERY new when it comes to tubes and the finer things of audio.

I was able to audition these very briefly at SnS with Paradigm speakers. I'm sold!

i'm just about to get the MP-5 and I do have some questions:
1. What's the difference between a Class D amp (ie Trends T-amp) and a Class AB amp (mp5)?  In car audio terms we use class D for mostly mono sub amps.

2. sensitivity rating. The higher the better? I also observed they're usually more expensive. What is the lowest "allowable" (by your standards) should someone consider?

3. The USB slots indicate that this would be a good alternative to my Pc's Klipsch ProMedia 5.1. Given that I will use these as part of my new PC Speaker setup do you think this would be advisable? Will the relative proximity of the user to the speakers / monitor hinder the sound? Is this setup even advisable?

4. What brand new speakers would you recommend for this? Up to 5k? Up to 10k? 15K?

5. Interconnects. Would the stock ones last me awhile? Any recommendations on this?

6. There were reviews online that said it came with Sennheiser headphones. Is this true?

7. There are a couple of inputs. Obviously I want to connect it via USB to my PC, but what if I want to connect my ipod to it? Is there a switch somewhere for this or do I yank out the USB?

Lots of questions I know.. sorry.

I'm just so excited about this unit!

thanks for the replies!



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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #63 on: Oct 21, 2009 at 10:07 PM »
Some additional notes by someone who (used to) own a Dared MP5..  ;)

1. The USB input on the MP5 is nice and convenient, but there's a noticeable improvement by having a separate source feeding it the analog signal instead of using its USB DAC.
Sound is fuller, and more rich, and that's just using my nearly 6 year old PC soundcard.

2. Replacing the stock tubes is a worthwhile upgrade.

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Overall I love my dared mp5. I'm half hearted about going for an upgrade

True that. I've since "upgraded" to a multi channel setup for HT, but I still miss the little bugger for music listening at times.  :D

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #64 on: Feb 22, 2010 at 10:48 AM »
Sir,

I just want to make some clarifications on the feedback as I am planning to try this out ... I'm planning to get a Dared MP5 for pairing with an iPod - does the iPod connect to the USB or analog auxiliary at the back of the unit?

If it's on the analog, does it not defeat the purpose of utilizing the better performing DAC of the Dared MP5 compared to that of the iPod?

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #65 on: Feb 22, 2010 at 03:04 PM »
Afaik, you connect it to the analogue input. You can use a dock, in case you want to bypass the headphone out circuitry.

I think the built-in dac would only interface with a computer via USB.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #66 on: Feb 22, 2010 at 03:13 PM »
Afaik, you connect it to the analogue input. You can use a dock, in case you want to bypass the headphone out circuitry.

I think the built-in dac would only interface with a computer via USB.

it seems this is the case, i used to own a dared mp5 and when i driectly used the USB to the ipod, it didnt work so i ended up using the analog in through an ipod dock
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #67 on: Feb 22, 2010 at 04:41 PM »
where can I audition this Dared MP5? I might get one...if budget permits... ;D
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #68 on: Feb 22, 2010 at 05:43 PM »
where can I audition this Dared MP5? I might get one...if budget permits... ;D

i got mine from watt hifi in mcs

try posting in the LF section, there might be people looking to dispose theirs
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #69 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 08:52 AM »
i got mine from watt hifi in mcs

try posting in the LF section, there might be people looking to dispose theirs

Thanks Sir Onkyo ;D
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #70 on: Apr 02, 2012 at 05:18 PM »
kamusta naman mga sir ang headphone amp nito? i intend to connect it to my laptop them use my MS1.
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #71 on: Apr 02, 2012 at 05:28 PM »
kamusta naman mga sir ang headphone amp nito? i intend to connect it to my laptop them use my MS1.


wala siyang sariling headphone amp, meron lang impedance equalizer at dropping resistor yun gainclone amp niya.

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #72 on: Apr 02, 2012 at 05:31 PM »

wala siyang sariling headphone amp, meron lang impedance equalizer at dropping resistor yun gainclone amp niya.

hi sir jojo! hmmm parang nabasa ko kasi sa specs nya na may headphone amp sya. if i were to use them, will i get the "tube sound" o dekorasyon lang yung tubes nya?
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #73 on: Apr 02, 2012 at 06:02 PM »
hi sir jojo! hmmm parang nabasa ko kasi sa specs nya na may headphone amp sya. if i were to use them, will i get the "tube sound" o dekorasyon lang yung tubes nya?


meron siyang headphone out, hindi headphone amp. the headphone out is derived from the very same amp that drives the speakers via dropping resistors, I'm staring at the schematics now. (please don't ask me to post or send it out as they will be mad at me if I do.)

to answer your question, yes dadaan siya sa tubes and you'll still get that tube buffered sound as well if you use the headphone out.  :)

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #74 on: Apr 02, 2012 at 07:18 PM »

meron siyang headphone out, hindi headphone amp. the headphone out is derived from the very same amp that drives the speakers via dropping resistors, I'm staring at the schematics now. (please don't ask me to post or send it out as they will be mad at me if I do.)

to answer your question, yes dadaan siya sa tubes and you'll still get that tube buffered sound as well if you use the headphone out.  :)

okie :) as usual, salamat sir!
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #75 on: Apr 20, 2012 at 08:19 PM »
now have an office audio/headphone setup --> MP5 paired with Alessandro MS1 and Nationite N2 as source. i like the "airiness" it brought to my previous laptop-MS1 combo.
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #76 on: May 04, 2012 at 09:20 AM »
love the dared mp5. seems like im upgrading it forever. every upgrade just keeps getting better. =)
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2012 at 12:28 AM »
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #78 on: May 06, 2012 at 04:24 AM »

nice dared papa anchit.
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2012 at 01:15 PM »


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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #80 on: Jun 03, 2015 at 10:19 PM »
who else sells Dared MP5's these days. Parang gusto ko magbalikloob. Perfect sa office hehehe

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #81 on: Jun 05, 2015 at 10:47 AM »
who else sells Dared MP5's these days. Parang gusto ko magbalikloob. Perfect sa office hehehe
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #82 on: Jul 30, 2015 at 06:59 PM »
how much yung MP5 ngayon?

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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #83 on: Jul 31, 2015 at 07:11 AM »
whats a good upgrade for a stock dared mp5?

you may want to replace the chinese 6n1p with the russian 6n1p, they are very cheap on the net....
else you may want to try the russian 6n23, or the 6922, 6j8/7dj8......
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #84 on: Jul 31, 2015 at 07:13 AM »
it seems this is the case, i used to own a dared mp5 and when i driectly used the USB to the ipod, it didnt work so i ended up using the analog in through an ipod dock

yes, i had a chance to look at one last night and i can not make out where that usb goes to....
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #85 on: Jul 31, 2015 at 07:14 AM »
just curious, can you bridge the output of this amp?  ???

any amp can be bridged....
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #86 on: Jul 31, 2015 at 07:18 AM »
btw, the Sakura AV200 and this Dared5 amps have a lot in common,
they both SS and tube hybrids, the dared used gainclones, the 7265,
while the Sakura used discrete transistors....
they both use the 6n1p buffer tubes....
power is about the same at around 25 watts per channel...
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #87 on: Aug 02, 2015 at 05:18 PM »
^ Dared benefits with a USB input and Headphones out.
AV200 benefits with bass and treble control.

Sir Tony, who would you say among the two have a better wiring/implementation design?
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #88 on: Aug 02, 2015 at 05:23 PM »
Dared....but the latest version of the AV200 i have seen are quite advanced in terms of construction....
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Re: Dared MP5
« Reply #89 on: Aug 02, 2015 at 05:24 PM »
Thank you Sir Tony.

Dared....but the latest version of the AV200 i have seen are quite advanced in terms of construction....
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