Topic: SAKURA AV-200T Tube Amp

[tony]

Sorry sir tony, what i meant was...to act as preamp? not just a decoration on the preamp stage.

yes, but the ensuing cost is not worth the effort imho,
remember that this is a low cost amp..
if i were to do it in my sakura amp, probably worth it...
not so if you are getting someone do it for you,
if you get what i mean.....
 

[pTrader]

it is a preamp stage with 2 op amps....
it can be modified to get rid of the 2 big tubes easily, all you need are just 2 resistors.

paano sir ito, i mean decoration lang yung big tubes?

[docrob]

yes sir, eye candy for short 

but for me the glow of the tubes especially when it's dark gives a relaxing atmosphere resulting to a pleasurable listening experience   

just as long as you accept the sakura for what it is it's a fine integrated amp 

[tony]

paano sir ito, i mean decoration lang yung big tubes?

let us just say it was a complex solution to a very simple problem....

[pTrader]

let us just say it was a complex solution to a very simple problem....

very deceiving naman yun...

[tony]

very deceiving naman yun...

not really, to the casual end-user, it is all about the sounds vs.
the cost that makes the difference, all that should matter to them...
building amps is just like cooking food, the cook selects ingredients
to get that sought after taste, he is not limited in his choices....

myself can not complain about this amp which is truly a bang for the buck,
there is no other amp like this...for the price, which diy'er here can make one like this? 

[JojoD818]

very deceiving naman yun...

depends on your point of view. nowadays, anything that has a tube in it is mistaken for a tube amp. just like anyone who owns something that has a tube is known as a "tubero". give that same person a screwdriver and some selfie shots and his a master.

no self respecting diy'er will implement something like that, I can be wrong though.

[markcrenz]

no self respecting diy'er will implement something like that, I can be wrong though.

I doubt you can be wrong on that. Deceive-It-Yourself?

[tony]

it is all about getting to market a product that sells......
the Chinese are very good at that, i have to give them credit...
we all know how the chinese business man thinks,
kahit mamera lang ang ganansya, basta libo libong items ang mabenta,
malaki ang kita...

[pTrader]

knowing all these, so how to make the sakura tube amp really a tube amp?

[tony]

knowing all these, so how to make the sakura tube amp really a tube amp?

costly.....
and when done will cost many time more than the Sakura...
i have a plan, but then hindi na Sakura amp ang kalalabasan,
i am looking for a beat up sakura to play with...
it can be done.....a 2A3 SET perhaps....
or a 7403 pentode triode wired....

[JojoD818]

I doubt you can be wrong on that.

I sincerely hope not... can't imagine what the next generation will be like.

Deceive-It-Yourself?

Just like buying an already built amp and saying you build it...

[tony]

i have been told that someone brought in 100 units of this Sakura amp....
he's just one importer, there could be others bringing in this amp...

[JojoD818]

knowing all these, so how to make the sakura tube amp really a tube amp?

you buy it as it is, don't "make" it what it's not. or just buy something else that's specifically what you are looking for.

as you can see from the previous pages, it's not a bad amp, there are those who enjoy it as it is and what it is. so ultimately, either love it or don't make it loveable.

don't get a scooter and soup it up to run fast, get a big bike instead.

[tony]

^yes Jojo you are right, but still there are those
who will want to add some sugar and spices to their cake...
we have warned them but still they come.....
i had to turn down several requests for mods,
instead i ask them to go to rene rivo instead....
rene has mods for this amp...

[tony]

i have been told that someone brought in 100 units of this Sakura amp....
he's just one importer, there could be others bringing in this amp...

assuming landed cost is 2500...
selling it for 4000 will give you a profit of 150,000 pesos easy,
kaching, kaching ang cash register!!!!.....
modding it to have a phono stage for a cost of 2000 each,
and selling it for 8000 nets you additional profit of 200,000...
so for the 100 Sakuras that you bring in, you stand to earn 350k,
ayaw ka pa noon?
cheap china imports are killing the local electronics business,
that is the sad reality of it....
say you are selling a diy amp for 30k, but how many can you sell in a months' time
1 or two? even if you have a profit of say 15k, hindi makakabuhay ng pamilaya yan...
but the end-users as always turns out to be the big winner...

[paradayms]

sorry medyo OP: Sir tony, ask ko lang normal lang ba talaga na meron tubes na mahina ang glow kht bago pa?

[tony]

sorry medyo OP: Sir tony, ask ko lang normal lang ba talaga na meron tubes na mahina ang glow kht bago pa?

yes, depende yan sa tube, merong tubes na akala mo hindi gumagana....
meron din namang tubes na parang light bulb sa simula....
amg importante gumagana ng mahusay yung equipment...

[tony]

YUMMMY!!!!!

[DTNS]

meron palang modified version nitong Sakura AV200T amp sa HyperAudio. 
https://www.facebook.com/hyperaudioshowroom/photos/pb.130384603732320.-2207520000.1404371880./514676565303120/?type=1&theater

[rochie]

YUMMMY!!!!!

nung kinuha namin to ni dandy tsaka ni fantom kanya kanyang hula kami kung para saan to hehehehe. pabulong naman sir Tony kung saan mo gagamitin yang mga yan at baka meron somobrang pcb.

[tony]

nung kinuha namin to ni dandy tsaka ni fantom kanya kanyang hula kami kung para saan to hehehehe. pabulong naman sir Tony kung saan mo gagamitin yang mga yan at baka meron somobrang pcb.

sure...i will give you one....

[cHiNo2728]

sure...i will give you one....

Pabulong din sir kung saan mo gagamitin yan.

[tony]

Pabulong din sir kung saan mo gagamitin yan.

ygpm....

[eyeyousee™]

Hello mga bossing, bakit maganda daw tumunog ang AV-200T kahit hindi naman sya tunay na de-tubo? At saka na fix na kaya yung old (unit) issues dito sa mga latest units? Gusto ko kasing bumili rin kung meron pa ba nito. Thanks!

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Hello mga bossing, bakit maganda daw tumunog ang AV-200T kahit hindi naman sya tunay na de-tubo? At saka na fix na kaya yung old (unit) issues dito sa mga latest units? Gusto ko kasing bumili rin kung meron pa ba nito. Thanks!

Well, it sounds decent for it's price. Just don't expect it to be a miracle worker. You have to learn to live with its' limitations. I've been using mine for 7 months now, wala namang problema. Yung slight thud nawala na rin after constant usage. Di lang ako sure sa stock kasi I got mine from Rene Rivo.

[tony]

Hello mga bossing, bakit maganda daw tumunog ang AV-200T kahit hindi naman sya tunay na de-tubo? At saka na fix na kaya yung old (unit) issues dito sa mga latest units? Gusto ko kasing bumili rin kung meron pa ba nito. Thanks!

yung ganda ng tunog, subjective yan.....
if you are happy with how it sounds despite its low cost,
then good for you, and be happy...
same parin ang issues...wala akong nakitang pagbabago...
but the model AV400 has a bit more power, about twice...

You have to learn to live with its' limitations.

+1...good post, this is true for all amps naman,
amps follow the laws of physics and thermodynamics....

[markcrenz]

Hello mga bossing, bakit maganda daw tumunog ang AV-200T kahit hindi naman sya tunay na de-tubo?

maybe they haven't heard better

[Gino]

May bilog ang bass, pumuputok ang gitara, at malambing ang vocal just like with tube amps. But manipis ang tunog unlike really good tube amps. Mas malakas ang power to drive most commercial speakers. High power good tube amps mas mahal. Low power good tube amps kailangan ng high sensitivity speakers (93db up.)

Sa amp na ito, you get to hear a little bit of tube sound with your speakers for cheap.

[tony]

maybe they haven't heard better

effects of a product being hyped....