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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #60 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:22 AM »
greetings,

these "heaterless tube" has the characterestic of being warm and mellow, even non-tube enthusiast will totally agree ;D ;D ;D

cheers ;)





Nice one!

My diy tubed audio equipment sounds better with a couple of shots of Glenfiddich. Cheers!
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #61 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 09:20 AM »
sir alexg,

Agree w/ that sir, anyway i drink not get drunk but to just calm my nerves down ;) a relaxing music is the catalyst to wrap things up.

cheers ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #62 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM »
efren i see that your amp will expose the terminals of the new OPTs. be careful and install some shrinkables over the top. however if you dont mind occasional jolts just leave them as they are.. ;D ;D

it will be nice if you can find a suitable OPT cover.. :)

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #63 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 07:51 PM »

sir the marines have landed sir!!!  8)

with "TLC"(tender loving care) :D

LOCK & LOADED!!! get ready for action ladies ;D ;D ;D

keep alert at all times!!! you dont wanna be cut down at this terrain(jungle)!!

keep firing, were just warming up!!!

excellent job boys!! ;D ;D ;D



you deserve a medal of valor!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #64 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:40 PM »
Excellent Efren, care to post some listening impressions? How are they compared to your old OPTs?

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #65 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM »
OT. Edrel, i think you should start a website and catalog your transformers with price list..... ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #66 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 11:39 AM »
thank you tony. for now i am just enjoying making few pieces and have friends test them to their extents. i am looking forward to reach the next level.. :D :D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #67 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 02:10 PM »
sir Edrel,

here are my listening impressions regarding your new OPT design for 6F6G/6AR5 single ended, ultra linear mode. Driver used are a pair of Onkyo D-032ax BS, a lowly J-WIN cd player, typical uninsulated room measuring 20m X 20m, under the ff. conditions:

1.these are subjective listening, my listening prefferences might be different from others.

2.I dont have sophisticated equiptment to measure different parameters, all that i have is a ten years old FLUKE 177 dmm & two trusted averaged sized ears.

At power on, not a hint of hum, (i know tube amps have some degree of hum, but this ones dead silent) maybe because of modern electrolytic used in the PS, or the single point grounding I implemented, or the characterestic of 6AR5, even foreign builders observed.

Here are the test CD's:

Track 1 Yesterday- the "twang"as they hit the base string is more vivid, you can picture how the fingers slide through each fret.


california dreaming track-Jose Feliciano's rendition is full of emotion, vocals and the way he pronounced is very clear


one of my favorite cd's.. David Benoit- the attack and decay as the piano keys hit the string is well defined.



Astrud Gilberto- The Diana Krall of her day, the track "A Certain Sadness" leaves you no option but to close your eyes.


Nutcracker - DEUTCHE GRAMOPHON- employ the best recording technique- full orchestral at its finest, you'll never missed hearing each individual instrument
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #68 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 02:37 PM »
sir Edrel,

The new OPT's not only looks good, they performed well beyond my expectation 8) 8). I also tried triode mode but seems the soundstage were reduced, other areas are almost the same. I borrowed some heavy rock cd's and the result is less favorable.

IMO, these are exellent when listening to classical, jazz, & vocals. My JLH excells in rock. anyway I rarely listen to rock, I prefer classical, jaZZ, Bosa novas & vocals.

And still i'm thinking about those two spare OPT's for the 6F6G....later....later...  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #69 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:12 PM »
efren you may install a switch to flip between triode and UL mode. if you are used to the UL mode you might be probably needing to get used to the triode mode as power will be reduced. anyway whatever path you choose i am sure you will be happy. i am glad you are enjoying your rebuilt tube amp.

another pair is waiting for you... ;D ;D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #70 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:53 PM »

efren, edrel is right, you can install a switch and you can select triode or pentode even when power is on, even while music is playing....i have done it and it is safe to do... ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #71 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 06:42 PM »
...and efren you have not splurged into an analog set-up yet. what more can your ears hear if you will be doing separates with an analog source..

you need to order more marines and battle carriers.. ;D ;D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #72 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 09:01 PM »
sir TonyT/sir edrel,

i'll heed your advice sirs, a DPDT switch will be installed in a couple of days, or perhaps a relay controlled by a SPST switch is much better.

I'll lobby congress for additional budget for my armaments and logistics, a long battle waits ahead ;D ;D ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #73 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 10:58 PM »
yan.. konting lambing ke misis..

"honey nagkape ka na ba? gusto mo timpla kita?" ;D ;D ;D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #74 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM »
sir,

di kape ang gusto nun.....pero kasing init ng kape ;D ;D ;D,with matching STAN GETZ & OSCAR PETERSON TRIO on background playing "Bothered, Bewitched, Bewildered" at naka dim ang ilaw. ;) ;)

I like this amp more with your OPT's in it. Of course it is far behind from SAKUMA san's amp, but the thing is I rebuilt it, i like it and i'm happy the way it sounds. :D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #75 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 11:20 AM »
o efren sino ba yang sakuma san na yan, mapuntahan.. :D :D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #76 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 04:31 PM »
just type "sakuma amp" will bring you directly, o kaya ito sir http://www10.big.or.jp/~dh/ matindi ang mga gawa, uses transformer as couplings.
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #77 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 06:13 PM »
no problem with interstage, if you want to go to the next level just give me a ring.. ;D ;D

..and you will be known as "efren sakuma"! ;D ;D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #78 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 06:47 PM »
sir edrel,

one thing for sure, the cost of sakuma's design will wipe out my bank account, what scares me most is my wife's wrath ;D ;D ;D

dito muna tayo sa mga simpleng SE, UL/TRiode mode :D

BTW sir edrel, (OT) I have lots of unused germanium PNP power xsistors in TO-66 cans, and i am thinking of putting them to use on PP mode, do you design irons for SS also? later i'll post pics of them. 
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #79 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 07:29 PM »
funny because i was actually asking tony previously about making kits for leach amp. i have lots of imported AEROVOX filter capacitors...and tony has some motorola power transistors which he promised to lend me..(hi tony ;D).

and yes of course i can make irons for that. i was just lucky that i have access to all UL listed parts for the transformers. what 230 to 32-0-32, 15A? ;D ;D

igawa na kita...

or you want to play around with my unfinished SS DIY amp? i just dont have the time..i can bring it to you for babysitting..

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #80 on: Feb 27, 2010 at 03:59 PM »
efren, what is the part number of those germanium trannies?
edrel, no problemo.....do you want to-3's or plastic ones? ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #81 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 07:04 AM »
sir Tony,

AD162 sir in TO-66 package, PNP /20V /1A /Audio power/ according to specs.

I think this are very rare germanium sir Tony,..I got 12 pcs of them.

interested for a swap sir? ;D I'll include this..


you might have better use for them, they are just gathering up dust in my junk box. perfect for your SS projects.
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #82 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 08:53 AM »
pwede sa booster yan, yung gamit sa jeep...sayang wala rin akong paggagamitan nyan...
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #83 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM »
sir Tony,
ah ok sir, also let me include in the list in case somebody might be interested:
ASZ16-TO3 germanium
ASZ18-TO3 germanium
OC28-TO3 germanium
MJ2955T-original motorola TO218 silicon
2N4111-TO3 gold plated package and pin
AY8114-TO3 gold pins
Plus countless other rare & original small signal xsistors made by RCA, Motorola, Philips, Matsusita....

I also have this tube with markings REZ50103 made by Ericsson Sweden, i have no idea regarding the use of this tube, there is only three elements inside: a shiny centerplate and two filaments on both side, similar
to an incandescent bulb filament.


any info sir? TIA :)
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #84 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 10:28 AM »
I noticed two stars na pala ako dito sa Pdvd, salamat po!!! :D :D :D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #85 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 10:53 AM »
Sir Tony,

I remember back in the 80's, Booster was in the boom, you can see it almost anywhere with blaring two or three way drivers, using the cheap versions of MJ2955 TO3 silicon that flood the market. I also made several of those using original 2SB449 germanium, the sonic diffrence is way up ahead. The germanium is characterized by a relaxed, open and less coloration sound.

I don't want to expound further as I noticed I am already off track ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #86 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 10:58 AM »
yup, thats rght, germanium types seem to sound more natural to my ears too.... ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #87 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 11:19 AM »
sir Tony,

The idea of those Push-Pull boosters came into my mind after a kumpare of mine heard my tube amp, and wanted similar sound in his car, after I explained to him the imposibilities of having a tube amp in a car, he asked for another option, so came the idea of this germanium cans. Deeco still sells input and output irons, in various ratings, but the OPT are "autotype". Perhaps sir Edrel can rewound this irons and put a secondary winding. ;) I'll ask my kumpare if he is willing to import for a custom built irons imported from cavite.  ;D ;D
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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #88 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 11:33 AM »
what kind of transformers are those efren. for audio applications as much as possible stay away from low grade cores. your germaniums will be useless...

and how much power you can juice out of that germaniums? 10,000W PMPO ba? ;D ;D

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Re: RCA-Victor stereo / GE reciever
« Reply #89 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 09:25 PM »
sir Edrel,

during those days (even up to now) there is IPT/OPT available for 50W the size of 750mA power xformer as advertised,
100W the size of 5A power xformer for their opt, 200W the size of 10A xformer, all made by MIYAMA. also one thing, there is no secondary for OPT, the speakers are directly tapped at the primary windings,.

commercially labeled at 50W output/ch but I think 20W is the maximum, btw "PMPO" for me is "Post Marketing Pampapogi Only ;D ;D ;D

the germaniums that I have now can deliver 8W of clean audio/ch, 6devices/ch in push pull mode. anyway this discussion is for educational purposes for now, I have my mind set for those two remaining OPT's for my
6F6G, :D :D :D "cause i'm planning to bi-amp.
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