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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #30 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 07:11 AM »
i only use 14awg wires from true value.. ok naman. then i borrowed my brother's high-end wires , and i couldnt tell the difference if there was any. i was able to borrow pa a wire tool, yung nakaka pili ka ng kapal ng wire, which removes the plastic part without cutting any copper wires inside  ;D

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #31 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 07:24 AM »
I am pretty sure this concept was made by the same manufacter to increase sales in another product.
kinda like "We designed and built this loudspeaker, we should know how to make the best amplifier for this loudspeaker, we should know"

sorry to bump an old thread. but i do have an interconnect querry. i heard somewhere that it is also advisable to get an IC of made by the manufacturer of your electronic gear. which means if i am using a cambridge audio amp it may be beneficial to use a cambridge audio IC. perhaps they were designed with each other in mind or they were tested multiple times together.

what say you peeps?

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #32 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 07:58 AM »
We recently did an A/B/C testing on interconnects.

A - Branded rca (Cheap)
B - Branded rca (Cheap but a little bit more than A)
C - DIY rca (3x the price of branded B - Silver internals)

Testing was done using a dared mp60, a NAD cdp and Anthony's hb8 speakers on DIY stands. Speaker wire used was a solid copper wire (Electric wire i think, Philippine copper - donated by DIY_Master)

The amp was set on a fixed volume, it was never changed. One cd was used (Audiophile Jazz 2), one track was used (track_8). All cables were tested with the same parameters (same track, same volume, same room, same cdp, same speaker wires, same listening position).

Results were: A was brighter than both B and C. B was good, but C was the best, the only difference with C and B was that C had a little more control on the highs, a little less "ssss" and a little improved clarity on the mids. I found no noticable effect on the bass.

There was actually, a slight difference in sound on all 3 cables used. I will not say it's a night and day difference. Probably a 5% change in SQ, for better or for worse. And you will only notice the sound if you listen intently, meaning - you were looking for differences. The sonic gain may be small,  but for some, they would spend for that 5% gain.

We only did one because we got curious, and we had cables to test, and honestly, just for fun. :D

* 2 people were present, both shared the same results. This is only our opinion, or at least what we heard and should be taken with a grain of salt.

It was more of a "side quest", because what we intended was a home audition of the cdp if it would match his gears.... hehehe (I lent my NAD cdp for his testing because my cousin wants one :D)

Cheers :D
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #33 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 08:56 AM »
I am pretty sure this concept was made by the same manufacter to increase sales in another product.
kinda like "We designed and built this loudspeaker, we should know how to make the best amplifier for this loudspeaker, we should know"


well a lot of "independent" and non manufacturers have a consensus on this tip. what hi fi also stated this in one of their videos. but who knows right? that's why i'm curious to find out

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #34 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM »
sorry to bump an old thread. but i do have an interconnect querry. i heard somewhere that it is also advisable to get an IC of made by the manufacturer of your electronic gear. which means if i am using a cambridge audio amp it may be beneficial to use a cambridge audio IC. perhaps they were designed with each other in mind or they were tested multiple times together.

what say you peeps?
one word: marketing!  ;D
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #35 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM »
sabagay may marketing side rin ang print and online reviewing entities.

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #36 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM »
what shop po that offers affordable to mid (to high), good quality av cables na honest and easy to deal with, na nasubukan na ninyo or suking tindahan :D
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #37 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM »
whats the budget ? mahirap i decipher yung mid to high...     

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #38 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 01:25 PM »
whats the budget ? mahirap i decipher yung mid to high...     
di ko rin alam for the budget sir e ;D just a beginner, on hand is a marantz SR5005, and just bought my pair of standers and a center last saturday, now, I'm for cables naman but no idea pa ng prices ng cables, kahit yung pang starter na maganda ang quality ???
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #39 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 02:57 PM »
di ko rin alam for the budget sir e ;D just a beginner, on hand is a marantz SR5005, and just bought my pair of standers and a center last saturday, now, I'm for cables naman but no idea pa ng prices ng cables, kahit yung pang starter na maganda ang quality ???
i'm no beginner, but i still use generic wires. kuripot...
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #40 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 03:08 PM »
prices could be 30 pesos to 3000 pesos or even more per meter.

pick your poison. :)


I strongly suggest to invest more on room treatments rather than on wires.
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #41 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 03:45 PM »
i'm no beginner, but i still use generic wires. kuripot...
generic, mga nabibili sa ace hardware?  :)
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #42 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 07:20 PM »
generic, mga nabibili sa ace hardware?  :)
i prefer sa raon more choices at mas mura. pwede na din siguro yung sa ace. bring a magnet, pag kumapit wag mo bilhin.  ;)
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #43 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 09:33 PM »
what shop po that offers affordable to mid (to high), good quality av cables na honest and easy to deal with, na nasubukan na ninyo or suking tindahan :D

Try mo maghanap sa Audio World, Listening Room, Listening in Style, AVDI, Spectra, Watt Hi-Fi, Audible Illusions..etc.

Yung cable depende sa current system mo at kung anong sound characteristic ang hinahabol mo. Wala sa presyo yung ganda ng tunog. Nasa synergy nito with the rest of your gears. Generic wires may also work kung ma-achieve niya yung hinahanap mong tunog. :)

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #44 on: Feb 23, 2012 at 09:37 PM »
dang! interconnects pala, kala ko speaker wires. for ics i prefer diy. if you can't diy i suggest cal's cables.
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #45 on: Feb 24, 2012 at 04:48 AM »
generic, mga nabibili sa ace hardware?  :)

yes its generic. made in usa, price is 1050 pesos for 50ft (65 per meter)... ok naman results sa akin  :)

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #46 on: Feb 24, 2012 at 06:56 AM »
i prefer sa raon more choices at mas mura. pwede na din siguro yung sa ace. bring a magnet, pag kumapit wag mo bilhin.  ;)
magnet, another lesson learned :D :D thanks sir

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #47 on: Sep 09, 2012 at 05:16 PM »
Good pm sirs, noob question, i have a cambrigde interconnect cable na medyo makapal ginamit ko ito as a coaxial cable. pwede ko bang gamitin ito now as a subwoofer cable? may benefit po ba sa bass sound or same lang if i use a ordinary rca cable? is there a specific subwoofer cable? thanks a lot

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #48 on: Sep 09, 2012 at 08:05 PM »
Good pm sirs, noob question, i have a cambrigde interconnect cable na medyo makapal ginamit ko ito as a coaxial cable. pwede ko bang gamitin ito now as a subwoofer cable? may benefit po ba sa bass sound or same lang if i use a ordinary rca cable? is there a specific subwoofer cable? thanks a lot

both will do pero mas ok kung shielded para sa static

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #49 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 12:17 AM »
both will do pero mas ok kung shielded para sa static
Thanks sir. What do you mean ng shielded? Saan pa po ba pwedeng gamitin ang ca interconnects? TIA

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #50 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 02:03 AM »
Thanks sir. What do you mean ng shielded? Saan pa po ba pwedeng gamitin ang ca interconnects? TIA

Shielded yung cable against EMI.

Gamitin mo yung ic kung ikabit mo halimbawa yung cdp sa amp :)
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #51 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 02:29 AM »
Thanks sir. What do you mean ng shielded? Saan pa po ba pwedeng gamitin ang ca interconnects? TIA

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #52 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 08:51 AM »
instead of comparing cables, why don't you just compare cd's instead or vynils....

open up a cheap cable and an expensive cable, they both contain plastics and copper wires....plastics in time react with the atmosphere and either becomes hard or brittle, copper reacts with hydrogen in the air and turns green coatings..........yes, they never stay the same over time........cable manufactures know this.....

why make cables a big deal?......just enjoy your cd's or vynils and listen to the music for a change......do not listen to cables...they are boring....

if you are awash with lots of cash, by all means buy the most expensive cable there is......but if you have to burn your credit cards para lang makasunod....wag na lang....
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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #53 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM »
Shielded yung cable against EMI.

Gamitin mo yung ic kung ikabit mo halimbawa yung cdp sa amp :)
Thanks bro sa reply. I think shielded itong ca interconnect kse makapal. Single cable Lang kse Ito. Pag isipan ko na Lang if I'll sell or use it. Thanks again.

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #54 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 11:10 AM »
ganito yan bro....


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check this also...
 http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,84232.150.html

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #55 on: Oct 25, 2012 at 08:37 AM »

Maganda ang may braided na aluminum, malinaw sya.

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Re: Question about interconnects
« Reply #56 on: Dec 19, 2012 at 07:02 PM »
One just need to compare the input signal  (before flowing to the IC) and output (signal at the other end), input vs output to determine the characteristic of the IC.  An ideal IC would  output the same signal as the input since  its only function is to serve as a signal conductor/bridge between 2 equipments, nothing else. Some manufacturers claim that theirs produce increased volume, deeper base, etc but from what I know, no electrical conductor can do that.

A simple comparison of the amplitude, signal form, freq of the input and output usng an oscilloscope can help  describe the performance or characteristic of an IC.  This approach is more scientific than  a so called expert's listening impression. You can just speculate why manufacturers are not sharing that information to us. I hope someone with he right tool from this community can be our local mythbusters and do the comparisons to provide a nonsubjective approach to this matter.