Author Topic: Panasonic 2011 TH-P42X30 and TH-P50X30 Plasma HDTV Review (Read 80366 times)

Carlo777 · « **Reply #30 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 01:49 PM »

Quote from: Oloap on Jun 12, 2011 at 12:41 PM

Thanks Carlo. Sent u pm regarding the rest of my queries. My apology for taking a few of your time.

I found it! I'll send a reply

Miguel^ · « **Reply #31 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 12:12 AM »

This is my first plasma, and 2nd flat TV next to an LG 42LH70.

All I can think about now is, "I should have bought a plasma to begin with"

frequenzy · « **Reply #32 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 03:05 AM »

Quote from: Miguel^ on Jun 14, 2011 at 12:12 AM

This is my first plasma, and 2nd flat TV next to an LG 42LH70.

All I can think about now is, "I should have bought a plasma to begin with"

yup. nothing beats plasma pagdating sa movies :-0

skooter · « **Reply #33 on:** Jun 14, 2011 at 09:33 AM »

A gaming videocard set to 1080P, would a plasma 720p able to produce a presentable display? Is it possible that my desktop display resolution would scale down? and in turn will have large icons and fonts on my screen.

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #34 on:** Jun 16, 2011 at 02:32 PM »

Quote from: Carlo777 on Jun 07, 2011 at 05:56 PM

Wala tsip! Lowering your lights will just lower the "reflectivity", to eliminate the issue, your lights should be totally off for the most part.

Para sa akin tsip! Gusto ko ng reflective panel mas glossy yung pic

A big thanks to Sights and Sounds for allowing us to review the panel!

Thanks bro for the feedback, panay pa naman ang build up ko sa image ng plasma,
pagdating ng friend ko kay Vic, unang una nyang nakita ay ang reflective panel nga,
kaya nauwi sya sa LCD, kung sana parang paint job lang ng sasakyan yan,
kayang pagaspangin ng bahagya,...

Thanks and regards sir...

arnarn · « **Reply #35 on:** Jul 09, 2011 at 06:01 AM »

Does this model have PIP feature?

barrister · « **Reply #36 on:** Jul 16, 2011 at 11:38 AM »

To those who are worried about the rising black level issue on Panny's 2009 and 2010 plasmas, the good news is that it has been reported that Panasonic fixed the problem for the 2011 models.

Cnet editor David Katzmaier reports:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20066427-1/panasonic-plasma-black-levels-no-longer-worsen/?tag=contentMain;contentBody

I had been advising friends to wait until Panny fixes this problem before buying. But with this reported fix for 2011, plus sir Carlo's positive review, I'm now confident enough to recommend the X30 to friends who are looking for an entry-level plasma.

However, they're still worried about the glossy screen. I have to explain that a glossy screen will have reflections, but a matte screen will produce light blacks and pale colors.

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Here's my 2009 post on the subject:

Quote from: barrister on Jul 31, 2009 at 10:47 AM

For TVs, the discussions are more one-sided, limited to an aversion for reflections. But for laptops, there's a more balanced debate going on concerning glossy vs. matte; however, there are more users who prefer matte screens for laptops.

Related article on the issue of reflectivity for Mac notebooks:

Glossy or Not?

With the exception of the MacBook Pro, all of Apple’s notebooks are available exclusively with a glossy display. The benefit of a glossy display is an improved contrast ratio but the downside is it reflects more ambient light, particularly when you have an unusually strong light source (e.g. sitting in front of a window or being outside with the Sun).

With the MacBook Pro you have the option of either a glossy or anti-glare display, the question that remains is: which should you choose?

As you’d expect, the decision really falls upon your intended use for the notebook. Indoors, the glossy display was much nicer in my opinion. Blacks appeared blacker and the screen was much more pleasant to look at:

Matte screen (left) vs. Glossy (right)

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3246&p=9

In fact, I even managed to convince our flat panel review master Carlo777 to change his mind about matte screens

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Quote from: Carlo777 on Sep 10, 2009 at 12:20 PM

This was a post made by barrister about the advantage of a "reflective" screen, and probably one of my favorite post out there.

Now, I love glossy reflective screens and honestly, I may not get a T.V with a super anti-reflective screen coating in the future.

otep72 · « **Reply #37 on:** Jul 20, 2011 at 12:49 PM »

I bought my Dad a Panasonic 42X30 last Saturday, July 16 from Sir Vic and SnS and I must say, for the moment, I am his favorite son.

Once again, Sir Carlo777's review put me over the top (and the great price of Sir Vic naturally) and bought this gorgeous TV.

Even though sir Carlo777's opinion of this TV is that it was the same as last year's 42X20, I thought that the added feature of a USB media player (this is almost becoming mandatory on all TV's) and option for WiFi connectivity would put this way over 42X20. But then, it was Carlo777's review of the 42X20 that made me buy that TV in the first place.

I think I should just refrain from reading Sir Carlo777's reviews. I'm running out of money!

onepaks · « **Reply #38 on:** Jul 20, 2011 at 03:33 PM »

Encountering a problem on the x30 USB slot. It plays avi files but after a while the image gets distorted. I pressed fast forward for about 5 secs then it stops. AlmIt's all my avi files are like that when played thru x30 but if I play on my computer ok naman. Help

rip · « **Reply #39 on:** Jul 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM »

sir do u have p42x30s, ano po diff sa p42x30 ? ty

barrister · « **Reply #40 on:** Jul 22, 2011 at 11:47 AM »

Pareho lang ang P42X30S sa P42X30.

The letter "S" is a country code which stands for "Singapore."

adonph · « **Reply #41 on:** Jul 23, 2011 at 08:59 PM »

@carlo777

Thanks for the review dude, i just noticed when i wen to sns. the color, if not the black level on the x30 looks lighter? or is it just me? They have an x20 also running, it was richer in color compared to the x30.

I am deciding kasi on which model to get. ang plus sa x30 is the added usb playability and net things, which i will rarley use hahaha

help sa input guys

Miguel^ · « **Reply #42 on:** Jul 23, 2011 at 09:25 PM »

@adonph
did they have the lights on? It's hard to appreciate plasma w/ lots of ambient light.

When I was there, I had them turn off the lights to appreciate the PQ. Needless to say, I went home with an x30

adonph · « **Reply #43 on:** Jul 24, 2011 at 12:57 PM »

@miguel

Thank for the reply dude, yes i had them turn of the lights also. i noticed that the color was a little bit "hilaw" sir vic also mentioned that the color sa x20 is bit richer. aside from that all almost the same.

hows the x30 sa gaming? any idea?

for movies alam ko ok siya.

Thanks for your reply

Carlo777 · « **Reply #44 on:** Jul 24, 2011 at 03:10 PM »

@barrister

Boss your input on the "reflectivity" issue is the best info I got during my whole stay in PDVD! I dig reflective screens now! You're the man! You're my brother from another mother!

@otep72

Got your PM! Let's spend more boss! Johnny and I hang around in SnS usually Saturday 5pm. We'll show you how to throw away some ham!

@adonph

X30 is cool for gaming! Near zero input and pixel response time!

revskie · « **Reply #45 on:** Jul 24, 2011 at 03:51 PM »

I have both. One glaring difference is when channel surfing when watching cable tv. X30 is faster to switch between channels. X20 has lag.

adonph · « **Reply #46 on:** Jul 24, 2011 at 04:22 PM »

@carlo777

Thanks for the input, is the break in still applicable to this model? did you guys notice the black level? when i saw it sa sns parang lacking sa color. Or ako lang yun?

I am deciding within the week to make an upgrade.

Will appreciate inputs, thanks

scorpionzero · « **Reply #47 on:** Jul 24, 2011 at 08:19 PM »

Quote from: adonph on Jul 24, 2011 at 12:57 PM

@miguel

Thank for the reply dude, yes i had them turn of the lights also. i noticed that the color was a little bit "hilaw" sir vic also mentioned that the color sa x20 is bit richer. aside from that all almost the same.

hows the x30 sa gaming? any idea?

for movies alam ko ok siya.

Thanks for your reply

panong hilaw? if less saturated sya. i think that might be good, coz x20 has over-saturated colors and crapty greyscale out of the box, but correctable..

adonph · « **Reply #48 on:** Jul 25, 2011 at 03:33 PM »

@scorpionzero

Its like kulang yung colors, parang faded. is it possible because of the panel?
hirap decide guys hahaha

scorpionzero · « **Reply #49 on:** Jul 25, 2011 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: adonph on Jul 25, 2011 at 03:33 PM

@scorpionzero

Its like kulang yung colors, parang faded. is it possible because of the panel?
hirap decide guys hahaha

hmmm, how was it compared to x20? the best way to compare them is to have them set both tv to cinema mode then contrast=70 colortemp=warm tapos ask them to play a scene that have lots of greens and reds.

tpos check for accuracy, green that is close to natural green but not bluish green (x20 green is kinda bluish even in cinema mode) then red should not overpower the whole picture (x20 has overly reddish greyscale).
(greyscale is correctable in the service menu)

never trust dynamic mode, it looks good in stores but not at home.

adonph · « **Reply #50 on:** Jul 26, 2011 at 12:35 PM »

@scorpionzero

Thanks for the advice, will be going back to sns later. naka dynamic mode sila nung natry namin.

I checked it out sa listening room, weird ok naman yung x30. syempre beside pioneer iba talaga haha.

but it was good there, sa sns parang light masyado yung colors.

hirap magdecide hehehe

Miguel^ · « **Reply #51 on:** Jul 28, 2011 at 02:44 PM »

Quote from: adonph on Jul 26, 2011 at 12:35 PM

@scorpionzero

Thanks for the advice, will be going back to sns later. naka dynamic mode sila nung natry namin.

I checked it out sa listening room, weird ok naman yung x30. syempre beside pioneer iba talaga haha.

but it was good there, sa sns parang light masyado yung colors.

hirap magdecide hehehe

ang pangit ng dynamic, I never use it. True cinema palagi. Siguro what I would suggest is to give it a really good few minutes of watching, so that your eyes could adjust sa levels of color and blacks.

adonph · « **Reply #52 on:** Jul 28, 2011 at 06:25 PM »

guys,

thanks for your help on the x30, i finally made the purchase. i put it in true cinema, question though i was playing book of eli, do you guys know the first scenes where in denzel was walking sa road and then the guys ambushed him? in that scene there are a lot of clouds, some of theme have green layers. normal ba yun?

scorpionzero · « **Reply #53 on:** Jul 28, 2011 at 06:33 PM »

Quote from: Miguel^ on Jul 28, 2011 at 02:44 PM

ang pangit ng dynamic, I never use it. True cinema palagi. Siguro what I would suggest is to give it a really good few minutes of watching, so that your eyes could adjust sa levels of color and blacks.

btw hows "true cinema" compared to "cinema" mode? ang alam ko lang ksi is that gamma has an s curve that goes from 2.1 to 2.2 dynamically in "true cinema" .. i dont have that option sa x20 but im curious.

Oloap · « **Reply #54 on:** Jul 28, 2011 at 09:05 PM »

Question- bakit wala pumapansin sa th-p50u20 full hd plasma model? Pangit ba reviews? Mahal ba? does the x30 trump this in all aspects?

leomarley · « **Reply #55 on:** Jul 28, 2011 at 10:22 PM »

guys which would you choose? L42U20 Full HD LCD or P42X30 HD Ready Plasma?

arnarn · « **Reply #56 on:** Jul 29, 2011 at 02:56 AM »

If you will be watching movies most of the time, then go with the 42X30. Plasma is still the way to go when it comes to picture quality and motion handling. plus, you get extra features like built-in media player and LAN connectivity.

scorpionzero · « **Reply #57 on:** Jul 29, 2011 at 07:18 AM »

Quote from: leomarley on Jul 28, 2011 at 10:22 PM

guys which would you choose? L42U20 Full HD LCD or P42X30 HD Ready Plasma?

pag LCD kasi hindi masyadong pinapansin ang panasonic, main line nila is plasma.

pao9307 · « **Reply #58 on:** Jul 29, 2011 at 08:57 AM »

Quote from: E-reply on Apr 30, 2011 at 11:24 AM

42X20 is P29500. with FREE wall bracket. Without wall bracket, 42X20 is P28K.

Buy TV at Sights and Sounds and win grand prize of All-New Volvo S60 Sports Sedan 2011 model from Shangri-La Plaza.

hello sir vic,

eto pa din ba price point nya ngayon?may 50' version ba to?thanks.

ezkerovalatzky · « **Reply #59 on:** Jul 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM »

Quote from: scorpionzero on Jul 29, 2011 at 07:18 AM

pag LCD kasi hindi masyadong pinapansin ang panasonic, main line nila is plasma.

bakit nga kaya samantalang pag tingin mo sa catalog nila , puro IPS panel ang LCDs nila. sumusugal pa ang marami sa ibang brand with ips panels gayung Panasonic explicitly state na IPS ang panel nila.