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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1470 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 09:03 AM »
damn.. and here i am sa office.. :(

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1471 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 09:18 AM »
Sorry if I don't get excited about Rasheed, Sessions, Beasley, or the like. On the other hand...

What's the next picture in this sequence?
C'mon, Mitch, make it happen!



i still like Bynum more than Dwight. Bynum has more offensive post moves than Dwight.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1472 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM »
anybody here knows the sched for all star weekend and what time its gonna be shown?

will local tv/cable show the rising stars challenge?

Studio 23 will air the All-Star events live. All-Star Saturday tom starts at 9AM, while the All-Star Game will air on Monday 8AM. All replays in the evening at 9:30.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1473 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM »
The Lakers lost the ff personnel for the past three years due to cost cutting moves by Buss:

Trevor Ariza - defensive nightmare to opposing Teams, consistent perimeter jumper.
Jordan Farmar - reliable backup PG with consistent jumper
Shanon Brown - uber athletic wingman with scoring punch coming off the bench.
Lamar Odom - the sixth man of the year/ matchup nightmare and IMHO one of the most versatile players in the NBA

This is why they are bleeding for points when the second unit comes in to spell relief to the first five. They need exactly what they have lost in terms of personnel. Those 4 players plus 1 rookie is already a first 5 caliber team. That is how strong they were when they won back to back championships even without Bynum's presence.

The biggest loss that they incurred which has nothing to do with cost cutting is none other than Phil Jackson. Coach Brown is a good replacement though but he still needs time to integrate his system.


I think you're overrating these players a bit, and except for the baffling Odom swap, none of these are cost cutting moves. Management basically chose Artest over Ariza and Blake over Farmar and not for lesser money. Shannon Brown opted out of his measly $2.37m player option to make more money elsewhere.

Here's your starting 4:
Ariza - ideally a solid role player for a contending team, not a consistent perimeter player at all. Barely shoots 40% from the field when averaging more than 10 shots a game. FG% in past 3 seasons 39.4% , 39.8%, 40.9%(because he's shooting a lot less 3's)

Farmar - someone who can score a lot when given a lot of burn in a bad team.

Brown - Someone who can barely stay ahead of the rotation against the likes of Jared Dudley, Ronnie Price and Michael Redd.

Odom - versatile and talented but also emotionally fragile. Useful in contending teams but will sulk when playing for rebuilding teams. Will mysteriously miss games against his former team for "personal reasons".
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1474 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM »
Their performance these days leaves a lot to be desired but back then when they were in the team they were part of something special which resulted in a championship. basketball after all is a team game and not individual stats.

well if its 4 on 4 thats the team where I will put my money on...

Farmar, Ariza, Brown, Odom....coached by PhilJax

             vs.

Blake, World Peace, Kapono, Murphy.......coached by Brown

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1475 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM »
I don't think anyone will choose the Brown team over the Philjax one. LOL   ;D Very easy target.

And where's Mcbob?

They're 5th place in the a very tough Western Conf., whose to say that the Mike Brown team won't be part of 'something special' this year?
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1476 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM »
i still like Bynum more than Dwight. Bynum has more offensive post moves than Dwight.

+1

Lakers don't need D12, what they need is a more potent offensive option at SF and a PG who can effectively run the offense and be consistent on the perimeter. Orlando would probably ask for Bynum AND Gasol if they would trade D12 to the Lakers. IMHO, that's too much.  :-\

add mo na din more contributors off the bench.  ;)
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1477 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 01:09 PM »
"I'm sure they were all geeked up for him," Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni said of the Heat defense on Lin. "And they took the challenge and they did a great job. It's hard to be Peter Pan every day."

LOL  :D

LOL... Coach Mike admitting he did a poor coaching job.

If Coach Spo can prepare the Heat on how to defend Lin, why can't D'Antoni strategize to counter the defense?
Perhaps he never heard of a multi-guard combo.
Perhaps he has not seen the Clippers & the Warriors play.
It may not work against the Heat, but at least show us something different next time.
Lin can't save his job forever.

Asan na ba si Coach Sloan? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1478 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 01:36 PM »

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1479 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 01:58 PM »
I don't think anyone will choose the Brown team over the Philjax one. LOL   ;D Very easy target.

And where's Mcbob?

They're 5th place in the a very tough Western Conf., whose to say that the Mike Brown team won't be part of 'something special' this year?

from the way that they are playing it seems that they will call it a season after the 2nd round of the playoffs.

they need help...not the superstar kind of help but effective role players.
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1480 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 03:24 PM »
RUMOR: Rasheed Wallace to join Lakers (80% probability according to ESPN radio) :o

whoa.. if this is true, looks like one of the Lakers' starting big men (Gasol, Bynum) or even both might get traded soon. or maybe just to add some guaransheed toughness and firepower to the laker bench.

hey Mitch Kupchak, what are you up to?  :D ;D

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1481 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 05:02 PM »
Women’s Committee Finalists:
ALL AMERICAN RED HEADS [Team] – The All American Red Heads are known as the female version of the Harlem Globetrotters and the first women’s professional basketball team.  The team regularly played more than 200 games per season, winning 70% of them while touring thousands of miles reaching 49 states, Canada and the Philippines.  Over six decades (from 1936 to 1986), the team broke social barriers and stereotypes playing in small towns and rural hamlets, as well as Madison Square Garden and Chicago Stadium.

KATRINA McCLAIN [Player] – McClain is one of the most decorated athletes in USA Basketball national team history, winning two Olympic gold medals (1988 and 1996), Olympic Bronze (1992), three FIBA World Championship medals (gold in 1986 and 1990; bronze in 1994) and five more medals at the Goodwill Games, Pan Am Games and World University Games.  She was named the USA Basketball Female Athlete of the Year in 1988 and 1992.  Before stepping onto the International stage, she was a two-time Kodak All-America (1986, 1987) and the 1987 WBCA National Player of the Year at the University of Georgia.

North American Committee Finalists:
MAURICE CHEEKS [Player] – Cheeks has been involved in the NBA either at the playing level or coaching level since 1978.  As a player, he was named to four NBA All-Star games, a four-time NBA All-Defensive team selection, member of one NBA championship team and set the steals and assist records for Philadelphia.  This Chicago native would then go onto coaching careers with the Portland Trail Blazers and Philadelphia 76ers.  He retired fifth on the NBA career list for both assists (7,392) and steals (2,310).  Cheeks is currently an assistant coach for the Oklahoma City Thunder.

BILL FITCH [Coach] – Fitch is a two-time NBA Coach of the Year (1976 and 1980) who led the Boston Celtics to the 1981 NBA Championship.  The Iowa native began his coaching success by leading North Dakota University to consecutive NCAA Division II Final Fours (1965, 1966) and was a staple on the sidelines for 25 NBA seasons with five different teams from 1970 to 1998.  He recorded over 900 wins and ranks eighth in NBA history in victories while reaching five conference finals and becoming the second coach in history to lead a team to three straight 60-win seasons.

BERNARD KING [Player] – King is a four-time NBA All-Star, two-time NBA First-Team selection, NBA All-Rookie Team and was the NBA Comeback Player of the Year in 1981.  Originally from Brooklyn, New York, he was a First Team All-America at the University of Tennessee before an NBA career that included stints with the New Jersey Nets, Utah Jazz, Golden State Warriors, New York Knicks and Washington Bullets.  He averaged over 22 points per game during his 15-year career including a 34.8 points per game average in the 1984 NBA Playoffs.

REGGIE MILLER [Player] – Miller was one of the greatest clutch scorers in NBA history, playing his entire 17-season NBA career with the Indiana Pacers finishing as the franchise’s all-time leader in points (25,279) and steals (1,505).  He was a five-time NBA All-Star, three-time All-NBA Third Team selection and won an Olympic Gold Medal in 1996.  From Los Angeles, he guided UCLA to the 1985 NIT Championship and finished third on the school’s all-time scoring list.  He ranks second on the NBA all-time list for three-point field goals made (2,560) and attempted (6,486).  He is ninth on the NBA career free-throw percentage list (.888) and seventh in career minutes played (47,619).  In addition to some memorable NBA playoff performances, he has the most three-pointers made (320) in playoff history.

DICK MOTTA [Coach] – Motta had coaching success at all levels of the game – starting at the junior college level in 1954.  He’s collected more than 1,000 victories while at the junior college, high school, collegiate and NBA levels.  He guided the Washington Bullets to the 1978 NBA Championship, won NBA Coach of the Year in 1971, led Weber State to two Big Sky regular season championships, and won a state high school championship in Grace, Idaho.  Over his NBA career, he led five different NBA teams – the Bullets, Chicago Bulls, Dallas Mavericks, Sacramento Kings and Denver Nuggets.

DON NELSON [Coach] – Nelson, the all-time winningest coach in NBA History with over 1,300 victories is one of only two coaches to be named NBA Coach of the Year three times (1983, 1985 and 1992).  He spent over 40 years of his life as a player, coach and general manager.  He has led teams to 18 playoff appearances where he amassed 75 playoff wins and is one of only two NBA coaches to win 250 games with three different teams.  In 2007, he led the Golden State Warriors to the first #8 seed upset over a #1 seed in a seven-game series when they defeated the Dallas Mavericks.  He also coached Dream Team II to a gold medal in the 1994 World Championships.  Nelson is the only coach with 1,000+ wins and multiple NBA championships as a player, where he won five titles with the Boston Celtics (1966, 1968, 1969, 1974 and 1976).

HANK NICHOLS [Referee] – Nichols focused his career in basketball around the rules of the game.  A long-time NCAA basketball official who has refereed six national championship games, 10 final fours, three NIT Finals and 13 ACC Championships – officiated at the top of collegiate basketball for decades.  He officiated on the world stage officiating two Olympic games and one European championship.  After his officiating career, he would become the national coordinator of officials for the NCAA for over 20 years and was instrumental in the progression of rule changes at the collegiate level and he remains one of the most influential rules architects in history.

RICK PITINO [Coach] – Pitino is the only coach in men’s history to lead three different schools to NCAA Final Four appearances as he did with Providence College, University of Kentucky and University of Louisville.  He led Kentucky to the 1996 National Championship and then reached the title game again with the Wildcats the following year.  He has won over 600 games in his collegiate career, reached the Final Four five different times (1987, 1993, 1996, 1997 and 2005), led his teams to 20 postseason appearances and won nine conference tournament championships.  He earned Coach of the Year honors from different sources three different years.  Pitino also held two stints as an NBA head coach with the New York Knicks and Boston Celtics, leading the Knicks to two playoff appearances.

RALPH SAMPSON [Player] – Sampson is one of the top collegiate players of all-time, where at Virginia he became only the third three-time National College Player of the Year.  He was a three-time Naismith Award winner, two-time Wooden Award recipient and led the Cavaliers to the NIT Championship and one Final Four appearance.  He was only the sixth player in NCAA history to collect 2,000 points and 1,500 rebounds.  In 1983, he was the No. 1 draft pick by the Houston Rockets.  In the NBA, he was named to three NBA All-Star games, collected Rookie of the Year honors in 1984 and was named MVP of the 1985 NBA All-Star game. 

JAMAAL WILKES [Player] – Wilkes, a California native, spent his entire high school, college and professional career in his home state, playing under Hall of Famer John Wooden at UCLA prior to a successful NBA career with the Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Lakers and Los Angeles Clippers.  At UCLA, he would win two National Championships and receive All-America honors in 1974.  He was also a three-time GTE Academic All-America selection.  In the NBA, he won four championships while reaching the NBA finals six times.  He was a three-time NBA All-Star, two-time NBA All-Defensive second team and received Rookie of the Year honors in 1975.

-- http://www.hoophall.com/news/2012/2/24/naismith-memorial-basketball-hall-of-fame-announces-12-final.html

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1482 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:20 PM »
Sorry if I don't get excited about Rasheed, Sessions, Beasley, or the like. On the other hand...

What's the next picture in this sequence?
C'mon, Mitch, make it happen!



Probably the BEST Centers to play the game.
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1483 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:24 PM »
^I'd put Bill Russell in that line up to make the statement legit.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1484 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM »
Sorry if I don't get excited about Rasheed, Sessions, Beasley, or the like. On the other hand...

What's the next picture in this sequence?
C'mon, Mitch, make it happen!




Rasheed Wallace!!   ;D

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1485 on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:34 PM »
Wilt and Kareem along with Russell..the best centers no question.  I'm actually confused who should be ranked higher between Shaq & Hakeem.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1486 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 06:26 AM »
Talent wise Hakeem will edge out the Diesel however in terms of accomplishments the Diesel has achieved a whole lot more IMHO.
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1487 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 07:01 AM »
We deserve better.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1488 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 09:53 AM »

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1490 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM »
boring ng slam dunk contest this year! >:(

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1491 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 11:52 AM »
tapos na ba? kala ko 2pm pa


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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1492 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 12:00 PM »
boring ng slam dunk contest this year! >:(

I agree! The worst I've seen! I've never seen so many failed attempts of simple dunk routines! Dami pang kung ano anong gimik na wala namang kwenta. The Larry Bird tribute by one player eh mukha pang mas nakakahiya kasi 5x yata siya sumubok magdunk pero di kaya. It sucks big time! >:(
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1493 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 12:34 PM »
The slam dunk contest has been very stale for many years now ..... creative dunks are tougher to come by and not enough of the big stars joining (each with their own personal reason).   

Maybe it's time to make the slam dunk contest a biennial event ..... or just have some AND1 /streetball dunkers do some exhibition dunks ...... give tons of money to Jordan, Wilkins & Webb to relive their rivalries.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1494 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 01:32 PM »
The slam dunk contest is ok. There's nothing wrong with it as far as I'm concerned. It's the superstars chickening out that leaves fans hanging and wishing for "better" dunks, which is easier said than done. I found this year's dunks creative at most. But the absence of Lebron, Wade, Howard, Griffin robs the event of any panache.

I love the upgraded Hocus Pocus dunk. It was hard enough to dunk blindfolded, but to do a two-handed 180 blind is pure wow for me.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1495 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 02:51 PM »
maganda pa yung behind the back dunk ni John Wall sa dying minutes nung BBVA Rising Stars eh.

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1496 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 02:57 PM »
maganda pa yung behind the back dunk ni John Wall sa dying minutes nung BBVA Rising Stars eh.

yup much better

kinda expecting more - but just get disappointed
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1497 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 04:52 PM »
Dapat once every 3 years na lang ang slam dunk. Ubos na yata ang mga kakaibang dunk ngayon, minsan ginagarbohan na lang ang mga dunk ng mga props tsaka costume. Maganda sana kung si Vince Carter(old darling) vs Blake Griffin(new darling) ang Dunk Contest this year. Di na ako nanuod this year, hindi na kasi masyadong interesting e.
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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1498 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 05:19 PM »
i want to see Lebron participate in the dunk contest  ;D :D

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Re: NBA 2012 Season
« Reply #1499 on: Feb 26, 2012 at 07:46 PM »
i want to see Lebron participate in the dunk contest  ;D :D

He might choke....all eyes on him eh then expectations will be sky high. Lebron hasnt quite proven himself in those situations.
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