Author Topic: NBA 2012 Season (Read 496623 times)

Battousai · « **Reply #4590 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 12:32 PM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 12, 2012 at 10:56 AM

ang criticism naman kay Kobe, he wouldn't have won those championships without Shaq (2000, 2001, 2002)

and Pau Gasol (2009, 2010)

and often accused as a ballhog who would often go away from the offense to pad his stats

Ahh the old debate of Kobe riding Shaq's coattails. Then when Kobe won two without the big guy, they say it was because he had Pau.

This argument and any such kind is moot because of the word "team"

Using the same argument, can we not say that Shaq could not have won in LA without Kobe? Or that Pau wasn't a winner without Kobe?

The ballhog thing. Meh. So he shoots a lot. He's his own man. Drives coaches crazy with his approach. You say "fcuk Kobe! All he does is shoot!"

Then he flashes the five rings on you and says "talk to the rings" Hard to argue with that, considering he just made folks admit that "ballhogs" can exactly be real winners afterall.

You say "Screw you, Kobe! There is no 'I' in T-E-A-M" Then he fires back, there is in W-I-N. And also in R-I-N-G-S.

Then you say "Fcuk you, Battousai!" Kobe just made your "team" reasoning crap.

Then I reply "Coz he's had success at success at success"

Then Kanye asks "What the fcuk is he talking about?"

Kobe says "You're welcome"

warmaster · « **Reply #4591 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 01:18 PM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 12, 2012 at 10:56 AM

ang criticism naman kay Kobe, he wouldn't have won those championships without Shaq (2000, 2001, 2002)

and Pau Gasol (2009, 2010)

and often accused as a ballhog who would often go away from the offense to pad his stats

pau gasol isn't in the same league as kobe and shaq. he is merely a supporting cast. so the two without shaq makes kobe a legitimate champion twice.

mattia · « **Reply #4592 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 02:09 PM »

Quote from: Battousai on Jun 12, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Ahh the old debate of Kobe riding Shaq's coattails. Then when Kobe won two without the big guy, they say it was because he had Pau.

This argument and any such kind is moot because of the word "team"

Using the same argument, can we not say that Shaq could not have won in LA without Kobe? Or that Pau wasn't a winner without Kobe?

The ballhog thing. Meh. So he shoots a lot. He's his own man. Drives coaches crazy with his approach. You say "fcuk Kobe! All he does is shoot!"

Then he flashes the five rings on you and says "talk to the rings" Hard to argue with that, considering he just made folks admit that "ballhogs" can exactly be real winners afterall.

You say "Screw you, Kobe! There is no 'I' in T-E-A-M" Then he fires back, there is in W-I-N. And also in R-I-N-G-S.

Then you say "Fcuk you, Battousai!" Kobe just made your "team" reasoning crap.

Then I reply "Coz he's had success at success at success"

Then Kanye asks "What the fcuk is he talking about?"

Kobe says "You're welcome"

If we get too technical with the word BALLHOG or Bwakaw sa salitang kanto e mas bwakaw daw si Jordan kaysa kay Kobe.

"The number of shots Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan jacked up on a nightly basis is most accurately viewed on a Per-36 minute basis to allow for a shots-per-minute type comparison. In this regard, Michael Jordan shot more often than Kobe Bryant when he was on the floor:

Field Goal Attempts Per-36 Minutes- Regular Season
Michael Jordan - 21.5
Kobe Bryant - 19.3

In other words, in 36 minutes of playing time Michael Jordan would jack up two more shots than Kobe. In terms of the sheer volume of shots attempted while on the floor, Jordan was the bigger ball hog".

So okay lang maging ballhog. Result - Jordan 6 Rings. Kobe 5.

Read entire article : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kobe-bryant-ball-hog-then-michael-jordan-fans-212400116--nba.html

5zig3n · « **Reply #4593 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 04:53 PM »

i hate whenever someone says [insert NBA superstar here] couldn't have won without [insert NBA superstar here]

Quote from: warmaster on Jun 12, 2012 at 01:18 PM

pau gasol isn't in the same league as kobe and shaq. he is merely a supporting cast.

tell that to Kobe's haters. Pau Gasol is an all star, not a superstar.

he can't carry a franchise like Shaq, we already saw that in his days with the Memphis Grizzlies.

Quote from: warmaster on Jun 12, 2012 at 01:18 PM

so the two without shaq makes kobe a legitimate champion twice.

what the hell happened to Kobe's first three championships? he played the no.2 option (sometimes even no.1) during the Lakers' 3 peat from 2000-2002. Shaq couldn't have won those 3 titles if he didn't have Kobe as a teammate.

Kobe is a legitimate 5 time NBA champ, deal with it.

T33K0Y · « **Reply #4594 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 07:19 PM »

kobe is not in the finals, right? so tama na yan.. old issue na yan e.

back to okc-miami na ulit..

i agree harden and battier will be the key match-up but i bet harden will bust old battier's ass..

anya618 · « **Reply #4595 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 07:25 PM »

what time ba bukas umpisa ng game 1?

mikz023 · « **Reply #4596 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 07:32 PM »

Quote from: anya618 on Jun 12, 2012 at 07:25 PM

what time ba bukas umpisa ng game 1?

9am

anya618 · « **Reply #4597 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 07:32 PM »

Quote from: mikz023 on Jun 12, 2012 at 07:32 PM

9am

thanks, tamang tama

5zig3n · « **Reply #4598 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 08:24 PM »

Quote from: T33K0Y on Jun 12, 2012 at 07:19 PM

kobe is not in the finals, right? so tama na yan.. old issue na yan e.

this is an NBA thread, although 2012. we can freely discuss anything NBA related.

old issues will never die as long as there are ignorant and narrow minded haters of NBA teams and superstars.

Miami Heat or LA Lakers, Lebron or Kobe.

5zig3n · « **Reply #4599 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 08:45 PM »

before the NBA Finals starts tomorrow, let me add one more thing..

i am rooting for the OKC Thunder to win it all

BUT

if Lebron wins his first championship ring with the Miami Heat, haters should deal with that fact.

5zig3n · « **Reply #4600 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 09:12 PM »

Shot Tendencies By Heat And Thunder, Visualized

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/11/sports/basketball/nba-shot-analysis.html

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #4601 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 09:29 PM »

Quote from: mattia on Jun 12, 2012 at 02:09 PM

If we get too technical with the word BALLHOG or Bwakaw sa salitang kanto e mas bwakaw daw si Jordan kaysa kay Kobe.

"The number of shots Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan jacked up on a nightly basis is most accurately viewed on a Per-36 minute basis to allow for a shots-per-minute type comparison. In this regard, Michael Jordan shot more often than Kobe Bryant when he was on the floor:

Field Goal Attempts Per-36 Minutes- Regular Season
Michael Jordan - 21.5
Kobe Bryant - 19.3

In other words, in 36 minutes of playing time Michael Jordan would jack up two more shots than Kobe. In terms of the sheer volume of shots attempted while on the floor, Jordan was the bigger ball hog".

So okay lang maging ballhog. Result - Jordan 6 Rings. Kobe 5.

Read entire article : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kobe-bryant-ball-hog-then-michael-jordan-fans-212400116--nba.html

I just have to comment on this one, the word "bwakaw" for me means hindi "pumapasa" ng bola. So if one will compare MJ to Kobe, one should check kung mas madami ba "assist" si Kobe kay MJ? I think there is no need to google, because one would already know the answer.

Go Heat!

warmaster · « **Reply #4602 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 09:30 PM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 12, 2012 at 08:45 PM

before the NBA Finals starts tomorrow, let me add one more thing..

i am rooting for the OKC Thunder to win it all

BUT

if Lebron wins his first championship ring with the Miami Heat, haters should deal with that fact.

We're in the same boat. I like okc to win but if James can make me a believer that's really the pressure on him, prove his naysayers wrong

T33K0Y · « **Reply #4603 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 09:34 PM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 12, 2012 at 09:12 PM

Shot Tendencies By Heat And Thunder, Visualized

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/11/sports/basketball/nba-shot-analysis.html

now that's what i'm talking about.. back to the finals nba 2012 season

nice link sir.. more of this please..

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #4604 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM »

Kobe is the best player post mj...
Post Kobe......??tomorrow we will find out...durant or lbj....

5zig3n · « **Reply #4605 on:** Jun 12, 2012 at 11:16 PM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 11, 2012 at 04:09 PM

ano kaya yung totoong music playing in the Heat locker room after game 7?

not the real one but..

youtube video

WTF

bumblebee · « **Reply #4606 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 05:57 AM »

Quote from: 5zig3n on Jun 12, 2012 at 08:45 PM

if Lebron wins his first championship ring with the Miami Heat, haters should deal with that fact.

He's expected to win. He joined 2 superstars, right?

Battousai · « **Reply #4607 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 06:24 AM »

Quote from: Gob_Loves_Sony on Jun 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Kobe is the best player post mj...
Post Kobe......??tomorrow we will find out...durant or lbj....

Too early to assume who's the best player post Kobe. The guy's still playing and Lebron and Durant hasn't proven anything major in terms of winning. On talent alone, as much as I hate to admit, Lebron is better than Kobe and Durant.

Battousai · « **Reply #4608 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 06:27 AM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on Jun 12, 2012 at 09:29 PM

I just have to comment on this one, the word "bwakaw" for me means hindi "pumapasa" ng bola. So if one will compare MJ to Kobe, one should check kung mas madami ba "assist" si Kobe kay MJ? I think there is no need to google, because one would already know the answer.

Go Heat!

If Kobe had won 7 championships and had 0 assists during his career, what then? I'd relate to the assist stat more on point guards rather than "shooting" guards.

HD_MOVIES · « **Reply #4609 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 07:36 AM »

Jessica singing the anthem! Game na!!! Lets go heat!

anya618 · « **Reply #4610 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 07:40 AM »

Quote from: HD_MOVIES on Jun 13, 2012 at 07:36 AM

Jessica singing the anthem! Game na!!! Lets go heat!

kaya pala sounds familiar

mattia · « **Reply #4611 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 07:44 AM »

Quote from: HD_MOVIES on Jun 13, 2012 at 07:36 AM

Jessica singing the anthem! Game na!!! Lets go heat!

Champion na si Jessica!!

steelcrazy · « **Reply #4612 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:09 AM »

Good spacing and ball movement by the Heat, mukhang naiiwanan ang malalaki ng OKC sa match up.

anya618 · « **Reply #4613 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:10 AM »

panay pasok ng outside shooting ng miami

leomarley · « **Reply #4614 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:17 AM »

OKC concentrating too much on lebron and wade na-oopen tuloy mga shooters ng Miami. nice job on the spacing Spo!

Let's Go Heat!

LoneWolf · « **Reply #4615 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:24 AM »

Sayang, walang TV dito sa office. Nasa driver's lounge, which is a few floors up pa.
Anybody have a live streaming link for Game 1?

steelcrazy · « **Reply #4616 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:33 AM »

Fisher showing why he's a veteran of numerous championships. Sayang off ang shooting ng OKC or the game would have been tied up at the moment.
I think Perkins wont be effective in this series as he's too slow to match up with either Haslem, Bosh or Battier who seem to position themselves at the top of the key and just wait for kick outs from a driving LBJ or WADE.

mattia · « **Reply #4617 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:34 AM »

Quote from: LoneWolf on Jun 13, 2012 at 08:24 AM

Sayang, walang TV dito sa office. Nasa driver's lounge, which is a few floors up pa.
Anybody have a live streaming link for Game 1?

http://www.lshunter.tv/basketball-live-streaming-video.html

then press video then click link 1

warmaster · « **Reply #4618 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:41 AM »

nakakabwisit talaga si westbrook. tira lang ng tira. ayaw i run yung plays

steelcrazy · « **Reply #4619 on:** Jun 13, 2012 at 08:41 AM »

Chalmers and Battier contributing heavily by scoring almost half of MIA's output in the first half.