Topic: The Religion Thread

[pTrader]

Okay, sige. How does Jesus behave as a  baby?

like any other baby ...

[bumblebee]

So, wala pa ngang isip?

[dpogs]

Isnt it wonderful... A God undergoing human natural process of growing up fully aware what is happening and yet didnt commit a sin.

The Bible have no record of Jesus during His childhood and adolescent period except that of when He's earthly mother mary found Him in the temple talking to men. Mga ten year old boy siya.

Hindi nya agad pinakita ang power, wisdom, moracles niya habang bata pa siya since its not yet the time.

Kung noong baby siya at nagsalita agad siya ng turo sa Bibliya then i believe the great plan of salvation cannot be finished. Kaya nga sabi sa Bible He made Himself a lower than angel hinubad ang pagkadiyos for our salvation.

[pTrader]

So, wala pa ngang isip?

ang baby may isip, pang baby
ang adult may isip  pang adult

if brain and mind of an infant will not function, cemetery is the end result.

baby cries because he/she knows someone will listen to him/her.
baby responds to his/her parent kasi may isip siya...

[dpogs]

I believe Jesus knew what was happening around Him when He's still a baby... He can talk or walk right away but He choose no to since its not yet time to perform a miracle. And i believe that is one way of subjecting yourself to the will of the God the Father.

[pTrader]

wag kasing paghaluin yung Divinity at Humanity.

Yung persisting na  tanong about the baby stuff ay more on Functionality.

[dpogs]

Because He is Divine and human at the same. He just subjected His will to the will of God the Father.

Jesus have all the right to act and think not like a baby because He is God... But He did not instead he choose to live a normal life of a baby ... For me that is one way of saying following God's will.

[bumblebee]

Did Mary and Joseph know about that? Did they teach him things? Did Jesus pretended he's learning when all the while he already knew?

[dpogs]

One thing is for sure. Hindi sakit sa ulo si Jesus. Since He is sinless i dont think na napalo o napagalitan siya ni Mary o ni Joseph.

Kahit naman ngayon may mga bata na super advance magisip malamang lamang sila pa nagtuturo sa kanilang mga magulang. Having a child with such great kbowedge and power dalawa lang puwede gawin ng magulang, to exploit the child or to let them live a normal life. I believe Mary and Joseph choose to let Jesus live a normal as much as possible and of course i believe some sort of security na rin from Herod

[majoe]

Did Mary and Joseph know about that? Did they teach him things? Did Jesus pretended he's learning when all the while he already knew?

okay sa mga tanong ah, hehe.
pag walang nakasulat sa bible, speculation o kaya base na lang sa common sense makukuha mong sagot  
 

[bumblebee]

okay sa mga tanong ah, hehe.
pag walang nakasulat sa bible, speculation o kaya base na lang sa common sense makukuha mong sagot  
 

I'm hoping for that. Answers na galing sa common sense. So far, I can't get any sense at least for this baby topic.

[dpogs]

okay sa mga tanong ah, hehe.
pag walang nakasulat sa bible, speculation o kaya base na lang sa common sense makukuha mong sagot  
 

Yup. Nagkaroom kaya ng crush si Jesus? Nagkaroon kaya ng erection si Jesus? May isip kaya si Jesus habang nasa womb ni Mary?

[bumblebee]

Good questions. What do you think? I'm serious.

[barrister]

okay sa mga tanong ah, hehe.
pag walang nakasulat sa bible, speculation o kaya base na lang sa common sense makukuha mong sagot

Korek!

Pero madali lang ang sagot diyan.

Walang direktang sinasabi sa bible, pero may clues.

Bakit walang sinasabi sa bible?  Siyempre naman.  Bakit babanggitin pa, e wala namang kakuwenta-kuwentang issue yon, walang kinalaman sa salvation...

[pTrader]

Korek!

Pero madali lang ang sagot diyan.

Walang direktang sinasabi sa bible, pero may clues.

Bakit walang sinasabi sa bible?  Siyempre naman.  Bakit babanggitin pa, e wala namang kakuwenta-kuwentang issue yon, walang kinalaman sa salvation...

panong nasingit ang salavtion, paano ba maligtas ang tao?

[barrister]

Ang relevance ng salvation ay sa ganitong tanong--- Kumpleto ba ang bibliya?

Ang sagot, kumpleto ang biblya para sa ating kaalaman ukol sa kailgtasan.  Pero hindi kumpleto ang bibliya sa lahat ng bagay.


Ilan ang Diyos, isa lang o marami?  May sagot ang bibliya diyan, kasi may kinalaman sa kaligtasan.

Ano ang paboritong meryenda ni Hesus?  Walang sagot ang bibliya, kasi walang kinalaman sa kaligtasan yon.

Ano mas magaling, Mac o PC?  Walang sagot ang biblya...

[pTrader]

Ang relevance ng salvation ay sa ganitong tanong--- Kumpleto ba ang bibliya?

Ang sagot, kumpleto ang biblya para sa ating kaalaman ukol sa kailgtasan.  Pero hindi kumpleto ang bibliya sa lahat ng bagay.


Ilan ang Diyos, isa lang o marami?  May sagot ang bibliya diyan, kasi may kinalaman sa kaligtasan.

Ano ang paboritong meryenda ni Hesus?  Walang sagot ang bibliya, kasi walang kinalaman sa kaligtasan yon.

Ano mas magaling, Mac o PC?  Walang sagot ang biblya...

eh, pano ba maligtas yung  tao?

[markcrenz]

Ano ang paboritong meryenda ni Hesus?  Walang sagot ang bibliya, kasi walang kinalaman sa kaligtasan yon.

Ano mas magaling, Mac o PC?  Walang sagot ang biblya...

Alam ni Brod Pete sagot dyan. Basa... 

[barrister]

Alien?


Alien!

[dpogs]

Good questions. What do you think? I'm serious.

using our common sense... we cant answer that ... our common sense will always tell us that Jesus as human experience erection, not thinkig while still a baby or at womb.. and having girl crush...

but if we consider Jesus being a God at the same time... well that is outside my common sense and i might say He knoweth all things, can think while still in the womb, no erection maybe and no girl crush... might be...

[bumblebee]

I can't argue with what you believe in. I just hope you believe with reason and not just take what is given you.

[Nelson de Leon]

I can't argue with what you believe in. I just hope you believe with reason and not just take what is given you.

May mga tao started with what was given. Some explore, some don't. Yun iba iniwan nila and abandoned what was given to them. Yun iba decided to pursue their faith. Yun iba did not have faith to begin with but studied the bible and found out a lot of things that gave them faith. Madaming nangyari and pwedeng mangyari, Walang general rule if it will be from the point of view of those who do not believe.

[dpogs]

I can't argue with what you believe in. I just hope you believe with reason and not just take what is given you.

if i believe with reason... atheist na sana ulit ako

I believe in the Bible, I believe in the Word of God... if there is something new I seek first the Scripture (the Bible) if it is Biblical or not...

[oweidah]

anong lenguahe ba sinulat ang biblia?
pag translated, may posibilidad na mahaluan ng interpretasyon
ilang versions ba meron ang Holy Bible?
di ko alam ngayon pero nung nasa saudi ako, pinagmamslaki nila na ang Holy Quran, arabic lang

[barrister]

anong lenguahe ba sinulat ang biblia?
pag translated, may posibilidad na mahaluan ng interpretasyon

Old Testament- Hebrew.  New Testament- Greek.

Wala namang problema kahit maraming translation.  Available ang original language kahit sa internet, basahin mo lang sa original language.

di ko alam ngayon pero nung nasa saudi ako, pinagmamslaki nila na ang Holy Quran, arabic lang

Hindi ka pa pinapanganak sir, may translation na ang Koran.

Year 1143 pa lang, may Latin version na.  16th to 18th century- French, Italian, German, English, Russian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_translations_of_the_Quran

[bumblebee]

if i believe with reason... atheist na sana ulit ako

I believe in the Bible, I believe in the Word of God... if there is something new I seek first the Scripture (the Bible) if it is Biblical or not...

Matanong lang, you can choose not to answer kung sobrang personal. Pano ka naging atheist and why did you come back?

[dpogs]

Matanong lang, you can choose not to answer kung sobrang personal. Pano ka naging atheist and why did you come back?

you may back read i think nasa atheist thread ata un

[barrister]

Hirap namang mag back read sir, ang haba non...

Ako nga hindi ko na matandaan, e ang dalas ko sa thread na yon  .

Baka puwede mong ulitin sir para hindi na kami maghanap...

[dpogs]

atheist during my high school years... and bago matapos ang high school, Jesus found me and i grow spirituallyy during my college 10 years

[barrister]

Thanks for sharing brader!