Author Topic: PC Audio Setup (Read 13417 times)

panzimus · « **Reply #30 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:58 AM »

Thanks nelson!

panzimus · « **Reply #31 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:00 PM »

question pa po. so kung PC set-up po, the chain would look like this?

PC > DAC (via USB, wala akong spdif/optical) > amp > speakers

Tama po ba? 2.0 or 2.1 lang po gusto ko since small room lang naman (10 sqm)

sientobente · « **Reply #32 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:11 PM »

Quote from: panzimus on Aug 29, 2012 at 06:00 PM

question pa po. so kung PC set-up po, the chain would look like this?

PC > DAC (via USB, wala akong spdif/optical) > amp > speakers

Tama po ba? 2.0 or 2.1 lang po gusto ko since small room lang naman (10 sqm)

Yep that's correct. usb is fine, i believe nga it should be better because it's a faster medium to transfer data.

panzimus · « **Reply #33 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:14 PM »

thanks sir! what amp naman po ang ok and speakers na din. plan ko sana kumuha sa A Audio ng speakers. sa amp, no idea for speakers, hanggang headphones lang po kabisado ko.

sientobente · « **Reply #34 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:18 PM »

Quote from: panzimus on Aug 29, 2012 at 06:14 PM

thanks sir! what amp naman po ang ok and speakers na din. plan ko sana kumuha sa A Audio ng speakers. sa amp, no idea for speakers, hanggang headphones lang po kabisado ko.

subjective kasi sir yung preference sa amp and speakers, best way talaga is to audition. libre naman magaudition at napakabait pa ng mga local retailers natin. i recommend what hifi, avshop and avdi.

pati dac meron din silang dala dun.

panzimus · « **Reply #35 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:24 PM »

maraming salamat sir. check ko po sila. sana may pasok sa budget...nasa 8k to 10k lang sana for speakers and amp.

sientobente · « **Reply #36 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:29 PM »

Quote from: panzimus on Aug 29, 2012 at 06:24 PM

maraming salamat sir. check ko po sila. sana may pasok sa budget...nasa 8k to 10k lang sana for speakers and amp.

you can also check our marketplace, there are nice deals out there from time to time

panzimus · « **Reply #37 on:** Aug 29, 2012 at 06:33 PM »

thanks thanks!

panzimus · « **Reply #38 on:** Sep 29, 2012 at 04:43 PM »

question po ulit. nakakuha na ko optical cable. now my PC shows na active naman ang /PDIF ko kaso wala naman akong makitang external jack/connection for it. I have the 3.5 colored pink (mic), green (output) and blue (input) and that's it for audio connections. how could I use the S/PDIF function ng PC ko?

Thanks ulit sa tulong.

warmaster · « **Reply #39 on:** Sep 29, 2012 at 07:19 PM »

Quote from: panzimus on Sep 29, 2012 at 04:43 PM

question po ulit. nakakuha na ko optical cable. now my PC shows na active naman ang /PDIF ko kaso wala naman akong makitang external jack/connection for it. I have the 3.5 colored pink (mic), green (output) and blue (input) and that's it for audio connections. how could I use the S/PDIF function ng PC ko?

Thanks ulit sa tulong.

Why get an optical Kung wala palang optical out yung pc? USB connection na Lang brother.

PC -> USB cable -> DAC -> RCA -> amp

panzimus · « **Reply #40 on:** Sep 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM »

thought na isa sa mga jacks doubles as S/PDIF just like yung sa laptop ko (have a 3.5 adaptor for the optical/toslink). and yung DAC ko kasi walang via USB, optical lang.

Stagea · « **Reply #41 on:** Oct 01, 2012 at 03:45 AM »

Quote from: panzimus on Sep 30, 2012 at 12:49 PM

thought na isa sa mga jacks doubles as S/PDIF just like yung sa laptop ko (have a 3.5 adaptor for the optical/toslink). and yung DAC ko kasi walang via USB, optical lang.

Most of such desktops use an internal header for SPDIF, if there is no external SPDIF port. In such a case, something like this may be needed to access this functionality:

panzimus · « **Reply #42 on:** Oct 01, 2012 at 10:26 AM »

Quote from: Stagea on Oct 01, 2012 at 03:45 AM

Most of such desktops use an internal header for SPDIF, if there is no external SPDIF port. In such a case, something like this may be needed to access this functionality:

Thanks! May pins sa mobo ko na labeled as spdif, I guess dun sya isasalpak, right? will just have to look for that then.

Stagea · « **Reply #43 on:** Oct 03, 2012 at 03:09 AM »

Quote from: panzimus on Oct 01, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Thanks! May pins sa mobo ko na labeled as spdif, I guess dun sya isasalpak, right? will just have to look for that then.

Yep, ganun na nga. Mahirap humanap nyan part na yan, before nakakita ako sa Gilmore pero matagal na yun. I have not seen it since.

Mura lang kasi at maliit ang market, kaya siguro hindi nagsastock ang stores.
http://www.amazon.com/SPDIF-RCA-Plate-Cable-Bracket/dp/B0035J9Z7W

You can opt to get a USB to SPDIF adapter or a sound card with SPDIF out kung wala ka mahanap nung part. Alternately, pwede din USB DAC kung gusto mong deretso na.

panzimus · « **Reply #44 on:** Oct 03, 2012 at 08:03 PM »

Mukha ngang easirst way is padaanin na lang sa el cheapo DAC ko for me to use the other DAC. would it still use the DAC chip of the 2nd DAC? link would be like this: PC > USB > DAC 1 > toslink > DAC 2 > amp > headphones/speakers

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #45 on:** Oct 03, 2012 at 08:12 PM »

Quote from: panzimus on Oct 03, 2012 at 08:03 PM

Mukha ngang easirst way is padaanin na lang sa el cheapo DAC ko for me to use the other DAC. would it still use the DAC chip of the 2nd DAC? link would be like this: PC > USB > DAC 1 > toslink > DAC 2 > amp > headphones/speakers

Pwede. pero why not get a single DAC na lang to lessen clutter...? May Musiland naman. Hehe!

louie1 · « **Reply #46 on:** Oct 03, 2012 at 08:42 PM »

you can also DIY..this link will show you how..http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/333711-S-PDIF-connectors-and-making-your-own-MB-S-PDIF-connector

sientobente · « **Reply #47 on:** Oct 03, 2012 at 09:25 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Oct 03, 2012 at 08:12 PM

Pwede. pero why not get a single DAC na lang to lessen clutter...? May Musiland naman. Hehe!

I agree. It will sound fuller pa.

panzimus · « **Reply #48 on:** Oct 05, 2012 at 03:13 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Oct 03, 2012 at 08:12 PM

Pwede. pero why not get a single DAC na lang to lessen clutter...? May Musiland naman. Hehe!

tipid mode sir eh. I already have 2 DACs kasi. unfortunately, di na ko satisfied dun sa isang DAC ko na may USB connection. pero I'll consider getting a Musiland pagnakaipon.

noob · « **Reply #49 on:** Oct 05, 2012 at 07:25 PM »

in my case, i have an old pc with coax and optical out, do i still need a dac. Thanks!

Wildfire™ · « **Reply #50 on:** Oct 05, 2012 at 08:27 PM »

Quote from: noob on Oct 05, 2012 at 07:25 PM

in my case, i have an old pc with coax and optical out, do i still need a dac. Thanks!

if you're going to plug it to a receiver with optical or coax in no need but if your going to plug it to an integrated amp yes you do

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #51 on:** Oct 05, 2012 at 09:23 PM »

Quote from: noob on Oct 05, 2012 at 07:25 PM

in my case, i have an old pc with coax and optical out, do i still need a dac. Thanks!

May analog output na din yan most likely so may DAC na yan. try to use it muna and see kung type mo yun sound. Kung type mo, tipid ka pa. If not, you can use an outboard DAC either may toslink or coaxial digital input or, USB DAC na lang.

jake052478 · « **Reply #52 on:** Oct 08, 2012 at 12:55 PM »

i have a creative soundcard.... the audigy 2ZS.... do i still to have a DAC?

here's the specification....

High Definition Audio Quality for Playback and Recording

24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion during playback with sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz in 7.1 mode and up to 192kHz in stereo mode
24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during recording in 8, 16 or 24-bit at sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion of digital sources at 96kHz to analog 5.1 speaker output
16-bit recording with sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1 and 48kHz
SPDIF output up to 24-bit resolution at 48 or 96kHz
ASIO 2.0 drivers for low latency (as low as 2ms) multi-track playback and recording at 16bit/48kHz*

*(Latency performance may vary based on system configuration)
Wave-Table Synthesis and Midi Features

Creative Hardware synthesizer (2x16 channels) with 64-voice polyphony featuring E-MU®'s patented 8-point interpolation technology for accurate sample reproduction
Creative Software synthesizer - multi timbral wave-table (16 channels)
2 MIDI I/O ports (2x16 channels) (gameport adapter required for MIDI I/O 2)

FireWire® (IEEE® 1394) Connectivity

FireWire® (IEEE® 1394) / i-Link® compatible interface with up to 400Mbps transfer rate

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS On-Board Connectors

Line level out (Front / Side / Rear / Center / Subwoofer)
Digital Out for 5.1 support (6-channel SPDIF output to Creative digital speakers
Line in
Microphone in
FireWire® (IEEE® 1394)
Telephone Answering Device in
Analog / Digital CD Audio in
15-pin MIDI / Joystick port extension header
Internal IEEE® 1394 header to Audigy 2 ZS Internal I/O Drive
AD_EXT extension header to Audigy 2 ZS Internal I/O Drive

Works with the Following Standards

Windows® 98SE, 2000, ME and XP
Supports Windows XP SP2
Sound Blaster MIDI and General MIDI
Plug and Play Sound Blaster PCI
EAX, EAX ADVANCED HD*
THX®
Microsoft® DirectSound®, DirectSound 3D & derivatives
Plug and Play Sound Blaster PCI
OpenAL™
PCI 2.2 compliant
AC97 compliant
Dolby Digital® and Dolby Digital EX
DTS Digital Surround® and DTS-ES Extended Surround™
Meridian Lossless Packing
ASIO 2.0
Dolby Digital® and Dolby Digital EX
SoundFont 2.1
DVD-Audio and Advanced Resolution™ DVD-Audio
Windows Media® Audio 9

how about it sir?

Wildfire™ · « **Reply #53 on:** Oct 08, 2012 at 03:46 PM »

Quote from: jake052478 on Oct 08, 2012 at 12:55 PM

i have a creative soundcard.... the audigy 2ZS.... do i still to have a DAC?

here's the specification....

High Definition Audio Quality for Playback and Recording

24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion during playback with sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz in 7.1 mode and up to 192kHz in stereo mode
24-bit Analog-to-Digital conversion during recording in 8, 16 or 24-bit at sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1, 48 and 96kHz
24-bit Digital-to-Analog conversion of digital sources at 96kHz to analog 5.1 speaker output
16-bit recording with sampling rates of 8, 11.025, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1 and 48kHz
SPDIF output up to 24-bit resolution at 48 or 96kHz
ASIO 2.0 drivers for low latency (as low as 2ms) multi-track playback and recording at 16bit/48kHz*

*(Latency performance may vary based on system configuration)
Wave-Table Synthesis and Midi Features

Creative Hardware synthesizer (2x16 channels) with 64-voice polyphony featuring E-MU®'s patented 8-point interpolation technology for accurate sample reproduction
Creative Software synthesizer - multi timbral wave-table (16 channels)
2 MIDI I/O ports (2x16 channels) (gameport adapter required for MIDI I/O 2)

FireWire® (IEEE® 1394) Connectivity

FireWire® (IEEE® 1394) / i-Link® compatible interface with up to 400Mbps transfer rate

Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS On-Board Connectors

Line level out (Front / Side / Rear / Center / Subwoofer)
Digital Out for 5.1 support (6-channel SPDIF output to Creative digital speakers
Line in
Microphone in
FireWire® (IEEE® 1394)
Telephone Answering Device in
Analog / Digital CD Audio in
15-pin MIDI / Joystick port extension header
Internal IEEE® 1394 header to Audigy 2 ZS Internal I/O Drive
AD_EXT extension header to Audigy 2 ZS Internal I/O Drive

Works with the Following Standards

Windows® 98SE, 2000, ME and XP
Supports Windows XP SP2
Sound Blaster MIDI and General MIDI
Plug and Play Sound Blaster PCI
EAX, EAX ADVANCED HD*
THX®
Microsoft® DirectSound®, DirectSound 3D & derivatives
Plug and Play Sound Blaster PCI
OpenAL™
PCI 2.2 compliant
AC97 compliant
Dolby Digital® and Dolby Digital EX
DTS Digital Surround® and DTS-ES Extended Surround™
Meridian Lossless Packing
ASIO 2.0
Dolby Digital® and Dolby Digital EX
SoundFont 2.1
DVD-Audio and Advanced Resolution™ DVD-Audio
Windows Media® Audio 9

how about it sir?

Like what Nelson de Leon said that is already a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)

jake052478 · « **Reply #54 on:** Oct 08, 2012 at 04:35 PM »

thanks.....

peeves24 · « **Reply #55 on:** Nov 04, 2012 at 08:36 AM »

Quote from: qguy on Jan 31, 2012 at 05:40 PM

I use a Behringer UCA202.. available at Intune Stores. I use it on my dedicated 2 channel system with a netbook as a source. its a budget dac but good enough for me

the unit is noisy though. you will appreciate the sound of silence more with a better DAC. there's audible hiss during low level listening or if there is no music playing.

i tested a fiio unit once it was very silent. as silent as my presonus firestudio project

panzimus · « **Reply #56 on:** Nov 04, 2012 at 04:58 PM »

yang noise and grain din ang pansin ko sa isa kong dac with usb input. anong fiio yung silent sir? E10?

go45cvi · « **Reply #57 on:** Nov 15, 2012 at 09:02 AM »

Quote from: Stagea on Oct 01, 2012 at 03:45 AM

Most of such desktops use an internal header for SPDIF, if there is no external SPDIF port. In such a case, something like this may be needed to access this functionality:

My mb (asrock h77 pro4mvp) only has an hdmi spdif header with gnd and spdifout, there are 5V on other headers. Will it work if I split that way? Alternatively, I have an old audigy 2 zs, could I use its header? Thanks.

qguy · « **Reply #58 on:** Nov 16, 2012 at 01:45 AM »

I got lucky with my unit, its dead silent.

Quote from: peeves24 on Nov 04, 2012 at 08:36 AM

the unit is noisy though. you will appreciate the sound of silence more with a better DAC. there's audible hiss during low level listening or if there is no music playing.

i tested a fiio unit once it was very silent. as silent as my presonus firestudio project

panzimus · « **Reply #59 on:** Nov 16, 2012 at 05:33 PM »

hmmm...does it mean na may quality check issues sa behringer since may units na silent, then merong noisy?

as of now, set-up ko pa lang is PC > Dared MP5 > A-Audio Charisma FS

will be getting a Baby G. now sa DAC naman, naisip ko na kumuha ng FiiO E10 due to budget reasons. yung MP5 kasi direct nakasalpak sa PC since may USB input.

any other suggestion how to improve my audio chain?