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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #90 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 08:50 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D

May itsura si Ma'am Digna pero hindi siya iyung type ko. At saka isa pa, medyo may edad na siya  ;)

Magalit pa sa akin iyung Mister niya. Sa kanya pa naman ako nagpapagawa ng PCB.

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #91 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM »
commercial products are made with profit in mind......

the engineer/designers determine the quality of the parts they are looking for based on a certain budget......

it is up for the purchasing department to source out vendors for the parts chosen.....

so yes, in this regard brand x can be  better than brand y in terms of cost......

besides i do not listen to the sound of capacitors......i always listen to the sound of the music....if i like what i hear.....i do not attribute that to the capacitor.....i attribute that to the  chain as a whole and not to an insignificant part....

Pamalit sa Elna ...

Eh di Sir puwede pala sa inyo mga Chinese brand na capacitor tulad ng Capxon, Samxon etc tutal sa music ka naman nakikinig at hindi sa capacitor  :)

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #92 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM »
to add..

if it does not hurt my wallet, why not  ;D  Its for a Power supply unit, I want to go with tested brands not because of SQ but for reliability. The original caps in my amp is ELNA, its 1976 model na amp, roughly 36 years old and still working, I am replacing the caps for preventive maintenance as this would be my daily driver amp.

if someone will tell me that (insert cheap brand here)  brand is reliable for ten years, why not .. then again the parts I need are small and should be inexpensive, no reason not to go with "better" brands and I am not selling amps, I can spoil myself.. if I was in the amp selling business then cost would then be a factor.

Pamalit sa Elna ...

Eh di Sir puwede pala sa inyo mga Chinese brand na capacitor tulad ng Capxon, Samxon etc tutal sa music ka naman nakikinig at hindi sa capacitor  :)
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #93 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM »
just replace those caps, you will find that the equivalent value cap is probably smaller with today's caps....
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #94 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM »
pasensya na OT question : Ok ba yung Rubycon na caps ?

Teka.. ako yung thread starter bakit ako yung OT  ;D
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #95 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM »

I bought some Elna capacitors from Deeco cubao. Eto yung 5pcs per bag, 1000uf/50v (52pesos for 5pcs). Meron din ako ng nakitang Elna 10,000uf/50v (130p per pc). Di ko na napansin yung ibang values since pang power supply yung hinahanap ko at that time. Meron ding Nichicon 4700uf/50volts. Rubycon caps meron din.

Experience ko lang, mas maganda tumingin sa Deeco Cubao and Raon since mas madaming pagpipilian sa branches na mga ito. Yung Deeco sa Starmall alabang, wala masyadong laman. Eto pa lang mga napupuntahan ko.

Rubycon, Elna, Nichicon yung alam kong mga respected caps na available locally.

Merong TK brand na caps sa deeco. Mas mahal pa sa Elna. Japan daw sya. Okay ba yun?

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #96 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 12:27 PM »
pasensya na OT question : Ok ba yung Rubycon na caps ?

Teka.. ako yung thread starter bakit ako yung OT  ;D

Reliable naman sila sa experience ko. They're normally standard-spec mass-market components like Nichicon, Matsush!ta, Sanyo, Chemi-Con, Hitachi, Elna, etc. caps, though they do sell higher-spec components.

Many shy away from them kasi nga walang ring sa name unlike mga botique brands.
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #97 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 12:36 PM »

Merong TK brand na caps sa deeco. Mas mahal pa sa Elna. Japan daw sya. Okay ba yun?


Toshin Kogyo is a Japanese company pero like many of these brands, they usually source many of these anyway. For the most part, you are buying the brand and the standards that they uphold. Where the parts are made (and who made them) is often not indicated sa packaging nung component.

As for comparing caps, maski pareho ng value, voltage rating, and tolerance iba iba pa din kasi ang series ng mga makers. Meron mga long life caps for example, which cost more.
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #98 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 01:25 PM »
I bought some Elna capacitors from Deeco cubao. Eto yung 5pcs per bag, 1000uf/50v (52pesos for 5pcs). Meron din ako ng nakitang Elna 10,000uf/50v (130p per pc). Di ko na napansin yung ibang values since pang power supply yung hinahanap ko at that time. Meron ding Nichicon 4700uf/50volts. Rubycon caps meron din.

Experience ko lang, mas maganda tumingin sa Deeco Cubao and Raon since mas madaming pagpipilian sa branches na mga ito. Yung Deeco sa Starmall alabang, wala masyadong laman. Eto pa lang mga napupuntahan ko.

Rubycon, Elna, Nichicon yung alam kong mga respected caps na available locally.

Merong TK brand na caps sa deeco. Mas mahal pa sa Elna. Japan daw sya. Okay ba yun?



haven't seen the TK as i can remember....deeco sells low because they do bulk purchases also for the electronics that they manufacture...

yes....whenever i go to Deeco raon, i see to it that i look at the capacitor section of the supermarket.....more often than not, i buy these branded caps, i can not resist the low cost....i buy even if i have no use for such caps at the moment....

kung matibay ang dibdib mo, marami sa bangketa ng raon, mga original parts, the sellers have no clue as to the real cost of their items.....

of course there is myu regular tube and capacitor pimp, gerry sta maria, 400-2762....
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #99 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:02 PM »
ipa DNA na yan..... :D :D :D


yun alleged love child sa spin?  :D :D :D




Pakisabi na lang ng "Hello" kay Ma'am Digna para sa akin. Matagal tagal ko na siyang hindi nababati.


May malalim pala kayo nakaraan...  :D


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Dagdagan ko lang ang nasabi ko tungkol sa thermistor (kasi nga may disadvantage sa power amplifier) sa may inrush current limit. Since hindi nga maganda na siya lang ... kaya ... mag-parallel na lang ng relay sa kanya. Bale ang mangyayari habang start-up doon muna sa thermistor dumaan ang kuryente tapos kapag nakapag-charge na iyung bulk capacitor o stable na ang supply i-activate o paganahin iyung relay para doon na dumaan ang kuryente ...

Ginagawa na yan sir, in lieu of the power resistors, NTCs are used then shorted out by a relay.


pasensya na OT question : Ok ba yung Rubycon na caps ?

Teka.. ako yung thread starter bakit ako yung OT  ;D


Caps = OT
Soft Start and DNA testing = BTT

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Seriously, black gates are actually premium Rubycon caps...

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #100 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:33 PM »
Mas madalas sa akin si Sir TonyT ah. Sabi sa akin iyun ni Ma'am Digna ...  :D

Eh bakit ka pa kasi nag-attach ng litrato ng amplifier. Pinaliwanag mo na lang sana para tapos na usapan  ;)
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #101 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:41 PM »
tubes ang pakay ko doon at saka double sided 2oz pcbs..... :D

this equipment can help you a lot: http://www.elab.ph/forum/index.php?topic=32916.0

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #102 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:45 PM »
Iyun lang ba talaga ...  :D ... bakit parang may ibang kuwento iyung guwardiya ...  ;D
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #103 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:47 PM »
Mas madalas sa akin si Sir TonyT ah. Sabi sa akin iyun ni Ma'am Digna ...  :D

Eh bakit ka pa kasi nag-attach ng litrato ng amplifier. Pinaliwanag mo na lang sana para tapos na usapan  ;)


Ibig sabihin nun mas dalas-dalasan mo pa daw ang punta...  ;D

Para makita lang na ginagamit sa actual... At least tapos na usapan... ibang usapan na para naman magaang...  ;)


tubes ang pakay ko doon at saka double sided 2oz pcbs..... :D

sige na nga, nagpapaliwanag ka pa koya...  :D


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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #104 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:51 PM »
my lips are sealed.....i am not a kiss and tell type of guy....;D
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #105 on: Aug 29, 2012 at 02:55 PM »
sabi ko na nga ba eh!  ;D

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #106 on: Aug 30, 2012 at 09:06 AM »

i buy even if i have no use for such caps at the moment....

of course there is myu regular tube and capacitor pimp, gerry sta maria, 400-2762....


Gawain ko din ito. Yung mga nabili kong cap kay Gerry parang gusto kong itago na lang for collection. :D


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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #107 on: Sep 10, 2012 at 05:58 PM »
i was at the deeco in Raon last Saturday.....lots of branded caps on ammo belt type carriers...these caps are the real deal if you ask me.....
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #108 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 04:24 AM »
I was able to get my caps at Watson, was planning to go to Deeco get some tubes and colored shrink wrap for my project.  but my trip was cut short due to an emergency.

I was able to get Nichicon, Rubycon,Marcon and  a few Elnas at Watsons


I just need 2 more caps.. 22000uF at 80-100 volts ;D

i was at the deeco in Raon last Saturday.....lots of branded caps on ammo belt type carriers...these caps are the real deal if you ask me.....
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #109 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 10:29 AM »


I just need 2 more caps.. 22000uF at 80-100 volts ;D


meron rin Hitachi brand sa Deeco Raon, 2nd floor. pag akyat mo,kaliwa , naka glass cabinet, kasama mga motor caps (Aluminum encapsulation).
 i think  saw some Elnas too
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #110 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 10:39 AM »
meron din nyan sa ROKs....Hitachi is a good brand..
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #111 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 03:33 PM »
pare pareho lang pala tayo ng pinupuntahan ah.
dami mga old caps sa paligid, ingat lang kasi natutuyo din yung electrolyte sa loob. Best talaga kung macheck niyo muna ESR.


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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #112 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 05:24 PM »
yung rubber seal ang importante, pag me signs na butas or damaged, pang kalakal na lang yung cap....
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #113 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 05:28 PM »
Tony post mo yun reforming jig mo na post mo dati...  ;D

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« Reply #114 on: Sep 11, 2012 at 05:32 PM »
saka na, medyo nahihiya pa ako.....pinagod ako ni bigwill.....magpopost tapos babawiin...;D
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #115 on: Oct 22, 2012 at 07:47 PM »
nakita ko may Solen caps kay Andrew Sevila.

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #116 on: Oct 22, 2012 at 07:53 PM »
Where is his shop ?

nakita ko may Solen caps kay Andrew Sevila.

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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #117 on: Oct 22, 2012 at 07:56 PM »
amx audio, sa san dionisio, paranaque...http://www.amxtubeaudio.com/products.html
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #118 on: Oct 22, 2012 at 08:43 PM »
Where is his shop ?


It's along President's Ave., malapit na sa Sucat kung palabas po kayo ng BF Homes. Red building na may SMART driving school.

Lagi ko nadadaanan. :)
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Re: Elna capacitors, where to buy ?
« Reply #119 on: Nov 12, 2012 at 06:34 AM »
Is there any Sonic difference between Elna Silmic and Elna Cerafine?
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