Topic: power cable

[jjohnc]

walang basagan ng trip......

kung saan ka masaya, go for it......

i am merely pointing out all possible sides to this....

in this hobby, some details are oftentimes left out....maybe because the proponents themselves are not in the know........i would like to give readers a chance to see the bigger picture and then decide....an informed decision is the best imho....

dre, kamusta my long lost friend sa wakas mag kikita tayo muli....in connection to power cables ala pa dito line conditioner...another gastos hehehehe

[Nelson de Leon]

I am more concerned about the suman! I love the suman with fresh and ripe mangos!

I miss our Budol Fight at my cousin's house there at Villa Angela... the sugpo, the burong kanin with fish, the original sisig and chicharon with laman... oh the cholesterol!!!

hhmmm... pwedeng magpalambot ng buto-buto or bulalo using that sir... or laman loob for papaitan... whew!

Nakow. Meron Tamales sa Malolos. Alam ata ni Tirso ang bilihan. Sa Santa Isabel. May burong mangga din dun. Na-miss ko din bigla yun sisig sa may school sa Pampanga!!!!

[praktikal]

ay siyempre naman hehehe...  I'd go safety up front before performance. enjoy lang...

ang mga banat mo master talagang... swak na swak!

teka, di pa ata ako nakatikim ng tamales na yan a. bihira kasi magawi sa norte.

[ATJr.]

dre, kamusta my long lost friend sa wakas mag kikita tayo muli....in connection to power cables ala pa dito line conditioner...another gastos hehehehe

thanks, almost 2 years na ko dito....looking for neutrik XLR connectors....please say hi to Ronald for me.....i have a power sequencer designed by one of the guys at Elab.ph which can be incorporated into a line conditioner if your wish.....

[JojoD818]

Nakow. Meron Tamales sa Malolos. Alam ata ni Tirso ang bilihan. Sa Santa Isabel. May burong mangga din dun. Na-miss ko din bigla yun sisig sa may school sa Pampanga!!!!

Makapagbilin nga kay brader Tirso niyan... minsan mga utol ko nag road trip kami sa Cely's sa San Fernando puro lutong bahay tukayo, sigurado ako masisiyahan ka.

Champion yun inihaw na hito at sawsaw sa buro na may pinausukang kangkong o okra.

ang mga banat mo master talagang... swak na swak!

teka, di pa ata ako nakatikim ng tamales na yan a. bihira kasi magawi sa norte.

nakakagutom ang power cord brad kaya puro pagkain ang naiisip ko...

naku subukan mo ang tamales! kasarap niyan lalu na pag may libreng tsaa...

[Nelson de Leon]

Makapagbilin nga kay brader Tirso niyan... minsan mga utol ko nag road trip kami sa Cely's sa San Fernando puro lutong bahay tukayo, sigurado ako masisiyahan ka.

Champion yun inihaw na hito at sawsaw sa buro na may pinausukang kangkong o okra.

nakakagutom ang power cord brad kaya puro pagkain ang naiisip ko...

naku subukan mo ang tamales! kasarap niyan lalu na pag may libreng tsaa...

Naku tukayo, i lived in Malolos formore than 6 years kaya sawa ako sa lutong bahay. Ang masarap, magluluto sa lilim ng puno gamit ang kahoy and charcoal. pati sinaing tukayo, luto sa kahoy!!! Yummy! Tapos maglalatag ng malapad na dahon ng saging (pinainit muna sa apoy para di mapunit at lumambot) sa ibabaw ng papag na mesa. Yan, tagpos ang diet mo. Mga carinderia dito, lutong bahay na ang dating unlike here in Manila.

Hindi ka na maghahanap ng paminta sa tamales. Haha!

[JojoD818]

Naku tukayo, i lived in Malolos formore than 6 years kaya sawa ako sa lutong bahay. Ang masarap, magluluto sa lilim ng puno gamit ang kahoy and charcoal. pati sinaing tukayo, luto sa kahoy!!! Yummy! Tapos maglalatag ng malapad na dahon ng saging (pinainit muna sa apoy para di mapunit at lumambot) sa ibabaw ng papag na mesa. Yan, tagpos ang diet mo. Mga carinderia dito, lutong bahay na ang dating unlike here in Manila.

Hindi ka na maghahanap ng paminta sa tamales. Haha!

Ah palagay ko dapat matuloy na ang EB sa ilalim ng puno ninyo tukayo!

Para mapagusapan na din natin ang tungkol sa power cord habang nagkakamay...

[Nelson de Leon]

Ah palagay ko dapat matuloy na ang EB sa ilalim ng puno ninyo tukayo!

Para mapagusapan na din natin ang tungkol sa power cord habang nagkakamay...

OT na tayo. Haha! Di ka takot magkamay kasi makakapal na ang insulation ng power cord. Nagninipisan naman ang copper. I wonder how nakakapasa ito sa standard? Baka they submit the wire as #16 for inspection, then market it as #14.

[JojoD818]

OT na tayo. Haha! Di ka takot magkamay kasi makakapal na ang insulation ng power cord. Nagninipisan naman ang copper. I wonder how nakakapasa ito sa standard? Baka they submit the wire as #16 for inspection, then market it as #14.

di tayo OT, anyway, wala na sinusunod na standards ang mga yan... bahala na si Batman kung minsan...

[JoeyGS]

Aside from opening up a power chord, is there a way to test one to determine if adequate wire thickness or gage is provided?

[JojoD818]

Aside from opening up a power chord, is there a way to test one to determine if adequate wire thickness or gage is provided?

x-ray, ot ct scan.


no, I don't think so. I guess we are under the mercy of the manufacturer's honesty with this one.

[ATJr.]

OT na tayo. Haha! Di ka takot magkamay kasi makakapal na ang insulation ng power cord. Nagninipisan naman ang copper. I wonder how nakakapasa ito sa standard? Baka they submit the wire as #16 for inspection, then market it as #14.

now you are getting it....

[ATJr.]

di tayo OT, anyway, wala na sinusunod na standards ang mga yan... bahala na si Batman kung minsan...

sinabi mo pa....... sana maganda gising ni Batman....

[ATJr.]

Aside from opening up a power chord, is there a way to test one to determine if adequate wire thickness or gage is provided?

meron naman....but you will need a miicro-ohmeter to measure the resistance of the cable, and then looking at the wire table, we can definitely say....

links to the micro-ohmeter.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohmmeter

http://www.aoip.fr/us/OM_Benchtop_OM21_22.html

http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/AEMC/MicroOhmmeters/6250.htm

link to the wire table.....http://www.williamsonic.com/WireTable/index.html

[ATJr.]

x-ray, ot ct scan.


no, I don't think so. I guess we are under the mercy of the manufacturer's honesty with this one.

agree on the "mercy" part, that is the reason we diy, we do not want to be at the mercy of those vendors....

[JojoD818]

sinabi mo pa....... sana maganda gising ni Batman....

pano na lang kung wala sa mood? huhuhu...

remember yun nasunog na bahay nun former House Speaker? according sa investigation, hindi dahil sa dami ng Christmas lights ang naging problem, yun mismong Christmas lights na ang ninipis ng wires ang pinagumpisahan ng sunog. kaya nauso yun ICC sticker ng DTI.

wala sa mood si Batman nun design niya yun mga lights na yan hehehe...

[odyopayl]

Aside from opening up a power chord, is there a way to test one to determine if adequate wire thickness or gage is provided?

Mil Spec, there are equipment like X-Ray machine we use for the industry, XRF machine to check the purity and composition of the connectors plating. And some accelerated Test machine like salt spray test and Thermal shock  oven (This is to ensure the quality of plating/materials which secure connections and quality of insulators in less time, without waiting for10-20 years).Insulator test etch....Hehehe, we don't need this overkill equipment which makes the price of connectors cost like an space shuttle parts.
That is why DIY rules if we want t make sure of what we call QUALITY for this Power connectors.

[odyopayl]

Sama ako jan.

Brothers you are always welcome here! Di lang Tamalis and masarap dito! I'm sure marami pang matitikman si Master Jojo dito, dadalhin ko lang yan sa Sussies Cuisine or the Nathaniel's Buko Pandan Ice Cream! Or the Bretto's American Burger! and Doc Fer Coffee Collections freshly brewed right beside His Listening Room!!!!

[JojoD818]

Brothers you are always welcome here! Di lang Tamalis and masarap dito! I'm sure marami pang matitikman si Master Jojo dito, dadalhin ko lang yan sa Sussies Cuisine or the Nathaniel's Buko Pandan Ice Cream! Or the Bretto's American Burger! and Doc Fer Coffee Collections freshly brewed right beside His Listening Room!!!!

ayun oh... a road trip to the north is brewing...

[jjohnc]

Last night Pas Boys (Philippine Audio Society) we were at one of the members place auditioning the Vivaldi dcs cd player..along with Jadis pre-amp, Pass XA.5 200 class A and lastly Wilson Audio Alexandria XLF...
To make the long story short hindi na yun cd player ang naging center of discussion kundi power cords...we were comparing Kubala/Cubala and the reference transparent cords...well both are good/great but the majority chose the transparent reference. for me just like what I said para kang bumili ulit the system the difference is night and day...the imaging, sq, sound stage, and musicality was beyond our expectation, the imaging was so full, detailed and with weight...good luck na lang sa friend namin if papalita nya lahat ng power cords...he's going to need 8 pcs. with a price tag of php 100,00 each cord hahahahaha

[ATJr.]

hehehe.....barya barya lang sa inyo yan....

[jepps137]

kung nagpapalit ng branded power cords, paano yung house wiring?

[Jagner]

kung nagpapalit ng branded power cords, paano yung house wiring?

Kung yung size nung branded power cord ay mas makapal pa kesa sa size nung kadalasang ginagamit ng mga outlet, sayang ang power cord.  Normally, those that use these branded/exotic cords have a dedicated power line, totally separated from the conventional outlets.

[timber715]

http://www.shunyata.com/Content/DTCD-meas.html
this might be an interesting read on how shunyata measures their cables

[ATJr.]

http://www.shunyata.com/Content/DTCD-meas.html
this might be an interesting read on how shunyata measures their cables

first class entertainment....

[timber715]

first class entertainment....

I guess when people make something someone cannot replicate or not capable would have to either be impressed or would try to disregard the idea. Only depends how you keep an open or close mind....
as technology moves, the way of thinking should try to follow or be left behind. there are lots of tools nowadays that were even beyond comprehension a decade ago....

[edwin]

I guess when people make something someone cannot replicate or not capable would have to either be impressed or would try to disregard the idea. Only depends how you keep an open or close mind....
as technology moves, the way of thinking should try to follow or be left behind. there are lots of tools nowadays that were even beyond comprehension a decade ago....

100 percent agree.

[ATJr.]

I guess when people make something someone cannot replicate or not capable would have to either be impressed or would try to disregard the idea. Only depends how you keep an open or close mind....
as technology moves, the way of thinking should try to follow or be left behind. there are lots of tools nowadays that were even beyond comprehension a decade ago....

they can put anything on the web to sell......who is to stop them? and who is to stop you from believing the ads?

[markcrenz]

they can put anything on the web to sell......who is to stop them? and who is to stop you from believing the ads?

they are pointing out that their power cables can deliver 200 amps (44,000 watts at 220 volts) within 15 microseconds, twice the speed of what other cables can.

ang tanong, can the typical house wiring match that ampacity and speed? 

[timber715]

they can put anything on the web to sell......who is to stop them? and who is to stop you from believing the ads?

There is always you to tell us that they are not true.... But then again you can always tell us what you think, who is there to tell us that what you say is correct?
At least they have a company to back their claims....