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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #60 on: Dec 18, 2012 at 03:32 PM »
Pasuggest naman what BD player to get na at least pwede Region -free (or Region 1 at least) DVD playing capability and possible kaya pati BD region-free na rin?

Imo the dvd region free for these blu-ray players is a non-issue. Dvd players are so cheap nowadays and they are region free. Just have dvd player for dvd and one for blu-ray. If you will sell your dvd player and buy these blu-ray players then I think its an issue. There are 3 in 1 hdmi switchers now (sold by anya) that is so cheap.

I think the region free for blu-rays is more of an issue. But how many films in region b do you/we want anyway? Most are already available in region A.

To me these are all small issues. Imo, bd players are worth it if you want the best in picture and sound. Of course, the discs are kinda expensive. Realistically, I mean we spend a fortune (whether it s a starter gear or hi-end gears, esp. 40 inches hdtv and above for blu-ray benefit) for our gears. It also deserves the best, which is blu-ray hehe.

For starters, just be selective with your purchases. I usually buy during black friday week in amazon. I think thats what the majority does now. They download, watch it sa nmt, then purchase kung maganda.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #61 on: Dec 18, 2012 at 04:23 PM »
Imo the dvd region free for these blu-ray players is a non-issue. Dvd players are so cheap nowadays and they are region free. Just have dvd player for dvd and one for blu-ray. If you will sell your dvd player and buy these blu-ray players then I think its an issue. There are 3 in 1 hdmi switchers now (sold by anya) that is so cheap.

I think the region free for blu-rays is more of an issue. But how many films in region b do you/we want anyway? Most are already available in region A.

To me these are all small issues. Imo, bd players are worth it if you want the best in picture and sound. Of course, the discs are kinda expensive. Realistically, I mean we spend a fortune (whether it s a starter gear or hi-end gears, esp. 40 inches hdtv and above) for our gears. It also deserves the best, which is blu-ray hehe.

For starters, just be selective with your purchases. I usually buy during black friday week in amazon. I think thats what the majority does now. They download, watch it sa nmt, then purchase kung maganda.

+1 get a separate dvd player at doon mo iplay lahat ng dvd mo para tumagal din ang lens ng bd player  ^-^
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #62 on: Dec 18, 2012 at 04:30 PM »
Thanks Moks and Anya for the feedback! :)

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #63 on: Dec 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM »
Cinavia is not a problem. it's a solution to rampant piracy of intellectual properties. :D

Di naman laos BDPs. It just hasn't taken off yet here in the Philippines. Madaming kuntento sa DVD players because their eyes have not been opened to the world of HD because 1) they still use CRT Tvs, 2) wala silang pambili ng HD source/materials kaya they just settle for very low quality standard definition materials or substandard/ pseudo HD materials like YIFY rips.

Kung ganyan ang market dito, naturally, wala ngang target market yung BDP sellers kaya walang stocks. Wala din naman bibili, so di na lang din sila magbebenta. hehe

kukonti lang tayo dito sa Pinas na nag-adapt sa Blu ray format. Even a lot of my well-off friends have not yet switched to BDs. Puro DVDs pa din sila and/or downloaded stuff. :/

Kaya ko nasabing problema ang Cinavia eh nawawalan ng silbi ang mga may-ari ng original BD titles na mag back-up ng titles nila. Imagine na gumawa ka ng back-up copy mo pero hindi gagana ng matino dahil sa Cinavia eh parang sablay ata yun.

Para hindi OT.

Dalawang previous officemate ko ang nagswitch sa BD. So mukhang hindi pa laos.

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #64 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 01:57 AM »
Kaya ko nasabing problema ang Cinavia eh nawawalan ng silbi ang mga may-ari ng original BD titles na mag back-up ng titles nila. Imagine na gumawa ka ng back-up copy mo pero hindi gagana ng matino dahil sa Cinavia eh parang sablay ata yun.

Unang kina-asaran ko sa BD, yung Java-enabled discs.  Bagal mag load, tapos pag nag-stop ka, walang memory for resume function, pag play mo uli, balik na naman sa umpisa.  May discs pa na may forced FBI warning and forced trailers; may isang disc ako, with forced anti-smoking promo pa.  Lahat yon non-skippable, kailangan mong hintayin matapos.
 
Ngayon may Cinavia pa.  Nagpapakamatay na yata ang BD.   
 
 
Para hindi OT.

Dalawang previous officemate ko ang nagswitch sa BD. So mukhang hindi pa laos.

Laos na.  Huli lang sa balita ang officemates mo ...  ^-^
 

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #65 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 02:03 AM »
Laos na ang BDPs? Naaahhh... not in the Philippines anyway. Mejo dumadami na rin ang nagmumulat ang mata sa HD... and knowing the pinoys' trait to " keep up with the jones' "

Lalo na ngayon na nauuso na ang P____d BD. --> pero pangit talaga kung ito ang dahilan.

But if you think about it, around when did most pinoys start making the switch to DVD from VHS/VCD? ;)

I feel that very soon, we'll start seeing 'Masa' BDPs like Orange, Promac, Pensonic etc. CDR king has had that ball rolling for several months now.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #66 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 02:33 PM »
+1 get a separate dvd player at doon mo iplay lahat ng dvd mo para tumagal din ang lens ng bd player  ^-^

I find pq for dvd playback on my BD players really bad that is why I still play my DVDs on my dvd player..
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #67 on: Dec 21, 2012 at 03:21 PM »
Laos na ang BDPs? Naaahhh... not in the Philippines anyway. Mejo dumadami na rin ang nagmumulat ang mata sa HD... and knowing the pinoys' trait to " keep up with the jones' "

Yung mga kilala ko na nag-uumpisa pa lang sa HD, download ang gusto, hindi optical disc. 
 
Niloloko nga nila yung mga may maraming DVD.  "Pre, kawawa ka naman, baka kailangan mo ng tulong pag maglilinis ka ng alikabok at amag ng sangkatutak na DVD mo...  ^-^ "
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #68 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 11:02 AM »
Walang pumapansin ng BD dito,...
Slow death perhaps,...

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #69 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM »


Laos na.  Huli lang sa balita ang officemates mo ...  ^-^
 


Natawa ako dito ... sa akin naman, feeling ko hindi naman sumikat kaya di nalaos ... ito lang yung bagong equipment ko na HT na ginamit a few months after ma-install ko just to test a few discs, then hindi ko na ginamit ulit, sa totoo lang isang movie lang natapos kong panoorin ... for me NMT is the way to go
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #70 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 01:15 PM »
Mas maraming tao ang gumagamit ng streaming dito sa US,...

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #71 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 01:27 PM »
Hindi pa laos yan. Dami daming BD players at discs sa Amazon eh...

I still prefer bluray picture quality against bluray iso lalo na ngayon Im experiencing Oppo bluray player... ;)

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #72 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 05:35 PM »
Hindi pa laos yan. Dami daming BD players at discs sa Amazon eh...

I still prefer bluray picture quality against bluray iso lalo na ngayon Im experiencing Oppo bluray player... ;)


more than a year ago, we tested the movie Avatar on sir Mark's (streetsmart) HT system using 3 media - original BD, pira**d BD, and 1080p mkv (17GB file, using my TVIX NMT) ... i'm not an expert like the other people in the room, so I basically just listened to their observations, and these were as follows - no difference on the orig BD and pira**d BD, almost no difference on picture quality with the mkv movie but audio is better on the BD media ... based on their observations, which i considered expert observation, there's very little difference on the quality (only the audio they said had a slight difference)

then we tested a full BD rip (Sony BD demo) that has TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-MA tracks; and it so happened that sir Mark has a BD of one of the Jazz artist on the sampler, hence we compared it ... their observation was that there's no difference on the quality

on my own observation, even on the Avatar mkv vs the original BD, i cannot discern the difference even on the audio - probably because i'm not an audiophile, but the point is that if there's a distinct difference, that large a screen and with that high-end audio equipment, even those who are not expert like myself would be able to observe the difference ... hence i would say that with my smaller tv screen and low-end setup, i'd choose a good quality 1080p or BD ISO anytime over a BD/BD player
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #73 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 07:15 PM »
Sobrang nag slow down ako sa pagbili ng BDs, this year less than 5 lang siguro nabili ko, OK naman ang digital downloads kaso may mga movies na gusto kong mapanood ang mga special features, deleted scenes etc..

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #74 on: Dec 25, 2012 at 07:38 PM »
I guess some people like me still prefer the physical media even if there is no discernible difference in pq and sq between the original bd and pirated or ripped bd. 
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #75 on: Dec 26, 2012 at 06:03 AM »
There is nothing like having a real collection. 

My two cents.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #76 on: Dec 26, 2012 at 10:29 PM »
There is nothing like having a real collection. 

My two cents.

ako naman, since this year lang nag mulat mata ko sa tera sized hdds and nmts,
i like a little bit of everything. ;)
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #77 on: Dec 26, 2012 at 10:46 PM »
Mas maraming tao ang gumagamit ng streaming dito sa US,...

I agree. It is a huge blow to physical media. The quality at this point isn't as good (low bitrate video and limited selection), but it's certainly good enough for most people. It's just so convenient and cheap. Image quality would likely improve over time, due to advancements in the data infrastructure and compression.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #78 on: Dec 26, 2012 at 11:30 PM »
i dont think na laos na...
sa mga hindi mafford siguro laos na...
pero for those who can afforf orig bd e....hindi yan malalaos....
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #79 on: Dec 27, 2012 at 10:50 AM »
i dont think na laos na...
sa mga hindi mafford siguro laos na...
pero for those who can afforf orig bd e....hindi yan malalaos....


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« Reply #80 on: Dec 27, 2012 at 11:02 AM »
Are you talking about Louie again? he he he he....

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #82 on: Jan 02, 2013 at 03:01 PM »
feeling ko parang na lalaos na nga hehehe

i got my bd player last October lang and ngayon nagsawa na yatang mag play ng BD kaya ang silbi nalang nya sakin is mutimedia player nalang sayang naman yung mga naipon kong BD and yung mga nakareserve sakin na up to now di ko parin makuhakuha gawa ng na ganitong problem ng unit ko

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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #83 on: Jan 02, 2013 at 08:51 PM »
my 2 cents on the topic...

1. There will always be people who will love to have a tangible, physical collection of BDs for their respective reasons.

2. For people who are prefering NMTs / Media players to Blu rays for their high def fix, maaring dahan dahang malos ang bdp... At best, very selected na lang ang original titles na bibilihin nila.

3. Since mejo talamak na rin ngayon ang mga -alam mo na- na BDs at pamura na ng pamura ang mga BD players, and take note - di pa pumapasok ang mga generic brands na BDPs nyan ha... i think that the local demand for BDPs will rise in the near future.

Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection"  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #84 on: Jan 02, 2013 at 11:53 PM »
my 2 cents on the topic...

1. There will always be people who will love to have a tangible, physical collection of BDs for their respective reasons.

2. For people who are prefering NMTs / Media players to Blu rays for their high def fix, maaring dahan dahang malos ang bdp... At best, very selected na lang ang original titles na bibilihin nila.

3. Since mejo talamak na rin ngayon ang mga -alam mo na- na BDs at pamura na ng pamura ang mga BD players, and take note - di pa pumapasok ang mga generic brands na BDPs nyan ha... i think that the local demand for BDPs will rise in the near future.

Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection"  ;D  ;D  ;D

I agree, clamp down on piracy and NMT's and HTPC's are going to slow down.  I have no basis but I think I have a good chance of winning a bet that most of the downloaded movies contained in those hard drives came from non pay sites.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #85 on: Jan 03, 2013 at 02:25 AM »
Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection"  ;D ;D ;D

I don't think so.  Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
 
BD collection?  They're not interested.  They hate discs.  They already have so many CDs and DVDs that they don't want to make additional shelf space for even more discs. 
 
Their recent music --- no discs, just digital format on their iPods.  After they got used to digital music format, they didn't want any more movies on discs either.
 
Ever seen how they react when they find out that there are very few BDs that can be easily resumed where they were last stopped?  Utter bewilderment ...  :o     
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #86 on: Jan 03, 2013 at 03:09 AM »
If streaming was as accessible here like it is in the united states, then yes that may kill the BD industry in the Phil.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #87 on: Jan 03, 2013 at 03:11 AM »
I don't think so.  Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
 

I think that's because at the time, the not-so-legit bds has not seen its advent.
When you see these stall owners starting to sell Generic brand BDPs at P3500 or less along with their pirated bds, then youll see what im talking about. That's exactly what happened with VCDS and DVDs.

Some people may be tamad to download, or may not have access to downoading videos all in all. I do agree with you that folks these days get both their video and audio entertainment in digital format (esp. music) but I still think that there will be a huge market who would want to own actual physical media - be it legit or otherwise. It's simply another avenue consumers will be taking.

Please understand that my point if view is based on a very local perspective. How this story plays in other parts of the world remains to be seen.
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #88 on: Jan 03, 2013 at 04:32 AM »

I don't think so.  Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
 
BD collection?  They're not interested.  They hate discs.  They already have so many CDs and DVDs that they don't want to make additional shelf space for even more discs. 
 
Their recent music --- no discs, just digital format on their iPods.  After they got used to digital music format, they didn't want any more movies on discs either.
 
Ever seen how they react when they find out that there are very few BDs that can be easily resumed where they were last stopped?  Utter bewilderment ...  :o     

totally agree with you sir
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Re: Laos na ba ang BD Players?
« Reply #89 on: Jan 03, 2013 at 05:59 AM »
i think the reason why bd players didnt took off, first because of the high price tag of sofwares. not all people who want to enjoy watching hd movies cant afford to buy ,everynow and then, bd titles. another reason is the region coding.( i hate this thing). but on a perfect world, in which there is no piracy and we buy every downloads that we do, then, i think having a physical copy is the perfect route. but in music, i still believe that a physical copy(cd or lp) is sonically superior than its digital counterpart.....unless you have an impaired hearing sense :)
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