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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #240 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 11:40 AM »
Nakaka bobo naman ng discussion yun rebuttal.  Ok pa sana if pumirma si yaya ng notarized witness affidavit man lang para may official document as basis if wala sa Bible.   ;D   Para may konting credibility.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #241 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 11:53 AM »
Sinabi rin ng kasambahay ko yan e. "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro."

Siguro  naman  kung magluto ang kasambahay mo at wala ka doon, pagka-uwe mo ay kumain ka at sinabe ng kasambahay mo "Ako ang nagluto niyan maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro".

O kung maglinis siya ng bahay at sinabe niya "ako ang naglinis niyan, maniwala ka sa akin" inde ka rin maniniwala.


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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #242 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 11:57 AM »
Nakaka bobo naman ng discussion yun rebuttal.  Ok pa sana if pumirma si yaya ng notarized witness affidavit man lang para may official document as basis if wala sa Bible.   ;D   Para may konting credibility.

 
Wala ka namang pananampalataya sir...



Biro mo, si Propeta Yaya, pinapirma mo ng affidavit?   :D 

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #243 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 12:01 PM »
Biro mo, si Propeta Yaya, pinapirma mo ng affidavit?   :D

Hahaha!  Ayan na nga ba sinasabi ko eh...nawala na yun seriousness ng discussion kasi nga napasukan ni yaya!   ;D

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #244 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 12:41 PM »
Halos lahat na ng mga thread pinasok na ng ALDUB. Pati ba naman trinity thread may aldub pa rin? 

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #245 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 12:48 PM »
Halos lahat na ng mga thread pinasok na ng ALDUB. Pati ba naman trinity thread may aldub pa rin?

aldub trinity:


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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #246 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 12:50 PM »
^hahaha dapat sa Joke of the day thread yan!

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #247 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:11 PM »
Siguro  naman  kung magluto ang kasambahay mo at wala ka doon, pagka-uwe mo ay kumain ka at sinabe ng kasambahay mo "Ako ang nagluto niyan maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro".

O kung maglinis siya ng bahay at sinabe niya "ako ang naglinis niyan, maniwala ka sa akin" inde ka rin maniniwala.

Pwede naman kasing sya nga ang nagluto at sya rin ang naglinis. She exists e. Dati na nyang ginawa yun at nakita kong ginawa nya. E, si God, nakita mo? Nakausap mo?

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #248 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:14 PM »
Pwede naman kasing sya nga ang nagluto at sya rin ang naglinis. She exists e. Dati na nyang ginawa yun at nakita kong ginawa nya. E, si God, nakita mo? Nakausap mo?

balik uli tayo rito:

31 He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ (Luke 16:31)

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #249 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:22 PM »
Pwede naman kasing sya nga ang nagluto at sya rin ang naglinis. She exists e. Dati na nyang ginawa yun at nakita kong ginawa nya. E, si God, nakita mo? Nakausap mo?

Kahit pa sabihin ko na nakita ko at nakausap ko at sabihin ko sa iyo "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro." maniniwala ka ba?

Kung ang kasambahay mo na kasakasama mo inde mo paniwalaan ako pa kaya?


Kahit pa may patay na nabuhay para sabihin sa iyo na may Dios maniniawala ka kaya?

at muli:

31 He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ (Luke 16:31)

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #250 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:30 PM »
Pwede naman kasing sya nga ang nagluto at sya rin ang naglinis. She exists e. Dati na nyang ginawa yun at nakita kong ginawa nya. E, si God, nakita mo? Nakausap mo?

Sino ba naman maniniwala kung totoo yung Hangin (wind, air) eh hindi mo nakikita.


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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #251 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:35 PM »
Kahit pa sabihin ko na nakita ko at nakausap ko at sabihin ko sa iyo "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro." maniniwala ka ba?

Kung ang kasambahay mo na kasakasama mo inde mo paniwalaan ako pa kaya?


Simple lang yan. Patunayan mo.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #252 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:36 PM »
Sino ba naman maniniwala kung totoo yung Hangin (wind, air) eh hindi mo nakikita.

San galing yan, going bulilit?

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #253 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:56 PM »
Simple lang yan. Patunayan mo.

yung tikbalang?

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #254 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:56 PM »
San galing yan, going bulilit?

Naniniwala ka bang may hangin, nakita mo na ba ito?

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #255 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:59 PM »
yung tikbalang?

Kay kasambahay yan. Si God ang patunayan mo.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #256 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 01:59 PM »
The discussion has gone to the dogs na with the introduction of yaya, tikbalang, and goin bulilit.   ;D :D

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #257 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:03 PM »
Kahit pa sabihin ko na nakita ko at nakausap ko at sabihin ko sa iyo "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro." maniniwala ka ba?

Kung ang kasambahay mo na kasakasama mo inde mo paniwalaan ako pa kaya?

Kahit pa may patay na nabuhay para sabihin sa iyo na may Dios maniniawala ka kaya?

at muli:

31 He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ (Luke 16:31)

Tama ka sir.  Ang  simpleng meaning ng sitas ay ganito--- kung ayaw nilang maniwala, e di wag.  :D 

Kay Moises at propeta, hindi ka naniwala, hindi ka rin maniniwala kahit mabuhay ang patay.  Sa salita ni yaya, maniwala ka ba?  E di lalong hindi.

Ganito ang context ng sitas:

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16:27-31)

Ang request ng rich man kay Abraham, resurrect Lazarus from the dead and send him to his five brothers, so that the brothers will be warned and repent.

Ang sabi ni Abraham, useless lang na pabalikin pa si Lazarus, hindi rin maniniwala ang mga kapatid mo.  Kung hindi sila naniwala kay Moises at mga propeta, hindi rin maniniwala yan kahit bumalik pa sa patay si Lazaro.

In other words, ang sabi ni Kristo sa kanyang kuwento, kung ayaw nilang maniwala, problema na nila yon.

Kaya nga ang sabi sa Apokalipsis, yung mga masasama, hayaan mo silang magpakasama:

11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Rev. 2:11)

Ang akala kasi ng marami, hindi ka pababayaan ng Diyos.  Hindi ganon yon.  Ang tama, may panahon sa buhay mo na pababayaan ka ng Diyos:

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?  Why are you so far from saving me, so far from my cries of anguish? 2 My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, but I find no rest. (Ps. 22:1-2)

(Trivia - In Mt. 27:46, why does Jesus quote Ps. 22:1?)
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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #258 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:13 PM »
Kay kasambahay yan. Si God ang patunayan mo.

sinabe sa aken ng Dios sa pamamagitan ng Kanyang salita  na may night and day. Naniniwala ka ba na may night and day?

Sinabe rin niya sa aken sa pamamagitan ng Kasulatan  na may evening at morning. Naniniwala ka ba na may evening at morning?

Gen 1:3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #259 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:14 PM »
Tama ka sir.  Ang  simpleng meaning ng sitas ay ganito--- kung ayaw nilang maniwala, e di wag.  :D 

Kay Moises at propeta, hindi ka naniwala, hindi ka rin maniniwala kahit mabuhay ang patay.  Sa salita ay yaya, maniwala ka ba?  E di lalong hindi.

Ganito ang context ng sitas:

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16:27-31)

Ang request ng rich man kay Abraham, resurrect Lazarus from the dead and send him to his five brothers, so that the brothers will be warned and repent.

Ang sabi ni Abraham, useless lang na pabalikin pa si Lazarus, hindi rin maniniwala ang mga kapatid mo.  Kung hindi sila naniwala kay Moises at mga propeta, hindi rin maniniwala yan kahit bumalik pa sa patay si Lazaro.

In other words, ang sabi ni Kristo sa kanyang kuwento, kung ayaw nilang maniwala, problema na nila yon.

Kaya nga ang sabi sa Apokalipsis, yung mga masasama, hayaan mo silang magpakasama:

11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.” (Rev. 2:11)

Ang akala kasi ng marami, hindi ka pababayaan ng Diyos.  Hindi ganon yon.  Ang tama, may panahon sa buhay mo na pababayaan ka ng Diyos:

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?  Why are you so far from saving me, so far from my cries of anguish? 2 My God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, but I find no rest. (Ps. 22:1-2)

(Trivia - In Mt. 27:46, why does Jesus quote Ps. 22:1?)

I agree.. :)

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #260 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:19 PM »
sinabe sa aken ng Dios sa pamamagitan ng Kanyang salita  na may night and day. Naniniwala ka ba na may night and day?

Sinabe rin niya sa aken sa pamamagitan ng Kasulatan  na may evening at morning. Naniniwala ka ba na may evening at morning?

Gen 1:3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


Sinong nagsabi na salita ng Diyos ang Bible? Bible rin? Nakikita mo na ba yung flaw sa logic mo? O hindi pa rin?

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #261 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:22 PM »
Sinong nagsabi na salita ng Diyos ang Bible? Bible rin? Nakikita mo na ba yung flaw sa logic mo? O hindi pa rin?

yung nga ang sinabe ng Dios sa aken, "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro"

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #262 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:23 PM »
yung nga ang sinabe ng Dios sa aken, "Maniwala ka sa akin, di ako nagbibiro"

Prove it nga. Pa notaryo mo raw.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #263 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:28 PM »
Prove it nga. Pa notaryo mo raw.

Semi-practicing Catholic ka pa ng lagay na yan ha.  Baka naman atheist ka? ;D

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #264 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:50 PM »
Prove it nga. Pa notaryo mo raw.

ikaw na lang magpa notaryo nitong nasa baba:

sinabe sa aken ng Dios sa pamamagitan ng Kanyang salita  na may night and day. Naniniwala ka ba na may night and day?

Sinabe rin niya sa aken sa pamamagitan ng Kasulatan  na may evening at morning. Naniniwala ka ba na may evening at morning?

Gen 1:3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.



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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #265 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:54 PM »
^pwede na siguro mga 4 copies, para isa sa ken , isa sa  iyo at yung dalawa para sa 2 witneseses para valid yung 2 testimony ng mga witnesses..

mag meet-up na lang tayo pag na notaryo mo na ha...

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #266 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 02:55 PM »
Wala ka palang proof e. Pinahaba mo pa.

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #267 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 03:28 PM »
Wala ka palang proof e. Pinahaba mo pa.

Nasabi ko na inde ka maniawala. Isinama ko na rin yung verse na sinabe sa aken inde ka rin maniwala.

Ito lang naman ang kakahinatnan ng inde naniniwala sa Dios at may Dios:

Rev 21:8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Eto lang naman ang sinabe ni Jesus Christ "29Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”"

Ayaw kang maniwala dito punta mo "—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”"

At inde ako mag-aalinlangang sabihin iyan.

sabi ni Jesus Christ "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #268 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 04:22 PM »
After the destruction of the soul in that lake of burning sulfur, what will happen to the soul that was created by God into his likeness and image, will it cease to be soul? meaning will it turn into something else, as in another matter or entity?
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Re: Question on the Holy Trinity
« Reply #269 on: Oct 06, 2015 at 04:25 PM »
After the destruction of the soul in that lake of burning sulfur, what will happen to the soul that was created by God into his likeness and image, will it cease to be soul? meaning will it turn into something else, as in another matter or entity?

eto yung isa sa picture eh:

Luke 16:24So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’