Author Topic: The American Idol Thread (Read 9604 times)

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #3570 on:** May 24, 2012 at 02:55 PM »

I believe producers do honor the votes....if it coincides with their choice. Otherwise, they simply decide the outcome who they think would sell more albums and their standards of what an American Idol should embody.

brainwashed · « **Reply #3571 on:** May 24, 2012 at 02:57 PM »

American Idol Winners List: http://americanidolwinnerslist.net/

American Idol Season 1 (2002) Winner: Kelly Clarkson
season 1 idol kelly clarkson
Born: April 24, 1982. From Burleson, Texas
Competing Finalist: Justin Guarini
Voting Results: 58% of 15.5 million votes.

American Idol Season 2 (2003) Winner: Ruben Studdard
season 2 idol ruben studdard
Born: September 12, 1978. From Birmingham, Alabama.
Competing Finalist: Clay Aiken
Voting Results: 50.6% of 24 million votes.

American Idol Season 3 (2004) Winner: Fantasia Barrino
season 3 idol fantasia barrino
Born: June 30, 1984. From High Point, North Carolina.
Competing Finalist: Diana DeGarmo
Voting Results: 51.2% of 65 million votes.

American Idol Season 4 (2005) Winner: Carrie Underwood
season 4 idol carrie underwood
Born: March 10, 1983. From Checotah, Oklahoma.
Competing Finalist: Bo Bice
Voting Results: 53.4% of 63 million votes.

American Idol Season 5 (2006) Winner: Taylor Hicks
season 5 idol taylor hicks
Born: October 7, 1976. From Birmingham, AL
Competing Finalist: Katharine McPhee
Voting Results: 56% of 63.4 million votes.

American Idol Season 6 (2007) Winner: Jordin Sparks
season 6 idol jordin sparks
Born: December 22, 1989. From Glendale, Arizona.
Competing Finalist: Blake Lewis
Voting Results: 56.4% of 74 million votes.

American Idol Season 7 (2008) Winner: David Cook
season 7 idol david cook
Born: December 20, 1982. From Blue Springs, Missouri.
Competing Finalist: David Archuleta
Voting Results: 56% of 97 million votes.

American Idol Season 8 (2009) Winner: Kris Allen
season 8 idol kris allen
Born: June 21, 1985. From Conway, Arkansas.
Competing Finalist: Adam Lambert
Voting Results: 51.7% of 100 million votes.

American Idol Season 9 (2010) Winner: Lee DeWyze
season 9 idol lee dewyze
Born: April 2, 1986. From Mount Prospect, Illinois.
Competing Finalist: Crystal Bowersox
Voting Results: 53.7% of 95.7 million votes.

American Idol Season 10 (2011) Winner: Scotty McCreery
season 10 idol scotty mccreery
Born: October 9, 1993. From Garner, North Carolina.
Competing Finalist: Lauren Alaina
Voting Results: 54% of 122.4 million votes.

If you look at where all these previous AI winners come from, you'd understand why Jessica Sanchez lost.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #3572 on:** May 24, 2012 at 03:41 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on May 24, 2012 at 01:17 PM

What are you talking about? Jessica Sanchez is an AMERICAN.

And as I said, it is not RACISM that made Phil won over Jessica. The audience that watches the show are mostly tween girls and their mothers and they like pop rock guys who play guitars a la John Mayer. That is all. Nothing to do with race.

I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe. You mean even if PP is of an Asian ethnicity and rocked like John Mayer he would've still won in AI?

Hindi muna po ako maniniwala sa ngayon.

BusyChild · « **Reply #3573 on:** May 24, 2012 at 03:41 PM »

Quote from: brainwashed on May 24, 2012 at 02:57 PM

If you look at where all these previous AI winners come from, you'd understand why Jessica Sanchez lost.

Sir, hindi ko magets.... mahina ako sa American Geography... hehe... ano ibig sabihin? Why did she lose over PP?

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3574 on:** May 24, 2012 at 03:47 PM »

Contestants from the South tend to win over contestants from the North and from the coasts because a huge bulk of Idol viewers and fans come from there.

Mr. Hankey · « **Reply #3575 on:** May 24, 2012 at 04:28 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on May 24, 2012 at 01:17 PM

What are you talking about? Jessica Sanchez is an AMERICAN.

And as I said, it is not RACISM that made Phil won over Jessica. The audience that watches the show are mostly tween girls and their mothers and they like pop rock guys who play guitars a la John Mayer. That is all. Nothing to do with race.

+3

Shakatak · « **Reply #3576 on:** May 24, 2012 at 05:14 PM »

It's "AMERICAN" Idol

not

Filipino-Mexican Idol

or

African-American Idol

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #3577 on:** May 24, 2012 at 05:33 PM »

american idol will always be a popularity contest but off course every finalist deserves that slot after all everyone can sing well, there will always be someone who sings the best compared to the rest but at the end of the day, votes will determine the winner, the voting public prefers the singing style, over all presentation of the winner but we should not feel bad about it, the contest is merely a jumping board for the contestants, the actual determination of winning is what happens after the contest.

Jessica may not have been the AI for this season but what happens after this contest is what will make her a winner or not, we have already seen several non champions who have become more successful than the champion.

Chorus · « **Reply #3578 on:** May 24, 2012 at 05:39 PM »

Quote from: Shakatak on May 24, 2012 at 05:14 PM

It's "AMERICAN" Idol

not

Filipino-Mexican Idol

or

African-American Idol

warmaster · « **Reply #3579 on:** May 24, 2012 at 05:55 PM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on May 24, 2012 at 05:33 PM

american idol will always be a popularity contest but off course every finalist deserves that slot after all everyone can sing well, there will always be someone who sings the best compared to the rest but at the end of the day, votes will determine the winner, the voting public prefers the singing style, over all presentation of the winner but we should not feel bad about it, the contest is merely a jumping board for the contestants, the actual determination of winning is what happens after the contest.

Jessica may not have been the AI for this season but what happens after this contest is what will make her a winner or not, we have already seen several non champions who have become more successful than the champion.

i don't feel bad as well because being a runner-up in a hotly contested competition is a tremenduous feat in itself. i mean, ilan ba ang nag auditions? tapos umabot ka sa final battle, ang galing na nun. jessica can take whatever she can, the experience, the exposure and the knowledge to further her singing career. matind na yung ginawa niya so we should all be happy. ganyan talaga ang contest, may talunan at may nagwawagi

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3580 on:** May 24, 2012 at 06:02 PM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on May 24, 2012 at 03:41 PM

I'm sorry, but I find that hard to believe. You mean even if PP is of an Asian ethnicity and rocked like John Mayer he would've still won in AI?

Hindi muna po ako maniniwala sa ngayon.

I doubt they base their votes on race. It's just the overall appeal. If an Asian guy auditions who have the same cute appeal of Phillip Philipps, I'm sure he can go far but there aren't a lot of Asian guys who have auditioned who have that exact type of appeal of the WGWG (White Guy With Guitar).

As I said, majority of voters of American Idol these days are housewives and their tween daughters at mas may appeal sa kanila ang WGWG (White Guy With Guitar). And I don't think a majority of them voted for Phillip Phillips because they hate Filipinos and/or Mexicans. They just like that cute guy who sings and plays guitar!

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3581 on:** May 24, 2012 at 06:09 PM »

Quote from: DVD_Freak on May 24, 2012 at 02:55 PM

I believe producers do honor the votes....if it coincides with their choice. Otherwise, they simply decide the outcome who they think would sell more albums and their standards of what an American Idol should embody.

I doubt it. Because of two words: Taylor Hicks.

The producers (and Simon) DEFINITELY did not want him to win. They saw him as a novelty contestant whom they hope would be voted out around sixth or seventh place once people got tired of his schtick. They wanted Chris Daughtry to win that year. But, no, Chris Daughtry was voted off at fourth place and Taylor Hicks went on to win. The producers and Simon have on several occasions bashed Taylor Hicks' win in the press.

The producers do their best to manipulate the votes but in the end, the producers honor the vote of the people.

frootloops · « **Reply #3582 on:** May 24, 2012 at 06:32 PM »

The world voted for JS, the American's voted for PP.

http://www.rappler.com/world/5864-why-phillip-phillips-won-american-idol

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #3583 on:** May 24, 2012 at 08:33 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on May 24, 2012 at 06:02 PM

I doubt they base their votes on race. It's just the overall appeal. If an Asian guy auditions who have the same cute appeal of Phillip Philipps, I'm sure he can go far but there aren't a lot of Asian guys who have auditioned who have that exact type of appeal of the WGWG (White Guy With Guitar).

As I said, majority of voters of American Idol these days are housewives and their tween daughters at mas may appeal sa kanila ang WGWG (White Guy With Guitar). And I don't think a majority of them voted for Phillip Phillips because they hate Filipinos and/or Mexicans. They just like that cute guy who sings and plays guitar!

They (Americans) don't hate Jessica, they just love their own, tulad din natin mga Pinoy.
Majority of voters are americans, minority lang ang mga pinoy at chicanos. Ika nga noong na interview na pinay dun sa US, malabo daw talaga manalo si Jessica, kasi minority, kalaban 50 states sa botohan.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3584 on:** May 24, 2012 at 08:41 PM »

But Jessica IS their own: She's AMERICAN. By birth and by rights, she is American. She is more American than Filipino. America didn't vote for Philip simply because he is white. They voted for him because majority of the voters are teenage girls and moms who like the pop-rock guy who plays guitar. And Philip happens to also be young, cute and pretty good at it.

Simple. Done. End of story. No conspiracy or blatant racism here.

Not convinced? Well, Season 9, Crystal Bowersox DESTROYED Lee DeWyze at the finale, performance-wise. Her two performances were pretty fantastic especially when compared to Lee who was pretty pathetic with his two performances but Lee still WON despite the fact that it was PAINFULLY obvious that Crystal was a lot better. Was America being sexist? No. Lee won because of the reason I stated above.

Unless the producers ban the WGWG-types from auditioning OR they change the voting system, I doubt we'll see a change in the types of winners we'll have in the subsequent seasons.

Philjonc · « **Reply #3585 on:** May 24, 2012 at 08:45 PM »

kung si Jessica puti, malamang nanalo sya.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3586 on:** May 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM »

Quote from: Philjonc on May 24, 2012 at 08:45 PM

kung si Jessica puti, malamang nanalo sya.

Crystal Bowersox and Lauren Alaina are both white. Talo pa rin sila ng WGWG.

Philjonc · « **Reply #3587 on:** May 24, 2012 at 08:57 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on May 24, 2012 at 08:48 PM

Crystal Bowersox and Lauren Alaina are both white. Talo pa rin sila ng WGWG.

iba ang quality ng boses ni jessica kay crystal and lauren.

crystal is also WGWG, and lauren very common and somewhat lost her voice in the finale.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3588 on:** May 24, 2012 at 09:05 PM »

Quote from: Philjonc on May 24, 2012 at 08:57 PM

iba ang quality ng boses ni jessica kay crystal and lauren.

crystal is also WGWG, and lauren very common and somewhat lost her voice in the finale.

Crystal is a GIRL, not a boy. WGWG only apples to white GUYS, not girls. And she was A LOT better than Lee during the finale and Lee still won.

It's not about racism. That's really stupid to think that. Philip Philips is a cute boy who sings pop rock songs on the guitar and majority of the Idol viewers who are tweens and moms LOVE that kind of thing (look at the past 5 winners). No matter how IMPRESSIVE Jessica Sanchez's voice is, hindi siya type ng mga nagboboto. I mean, Pia Toscano got kicked out early and she's just as good as Jessica in the vocal department.

oweidah · « **Reply #3589 on:** May 24, 2012 at 09:30 PM »

lesson to non-whites watching AI - dont waste your $, your bet aint gonna win.

TOP 20 · « **Reply #3590 on:** May 24, 2012 at 09:36 PM »

Quote from: Philjonc on May 24, 2012 at 08:57 PM

crystal is also WGWG,

White GAL With Guitar

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #3591 on:** May 24, 2012 at 09:44 PM »

Quote from: ojofool on May 24, 2012 at 09:30 PM

lesson to non-whites watching AI - dont waste your $, your bet aint gonna win.

Non-white GUY playing a GUITAR.

indie boi · « **Reply #3592 on:** May 25, 2012 at 05:19 AM »

LOL. This is so typical. Pag hindi nanalo, siguradong niluto ang results.

Philjonc · « **Reply #3593 on:** May 25, 2012 at 08:16 AM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on May 24, 2012 at 09:05 PM

Crystal is a GIRL, not a boy. WGWG only apples to white GUYS, not girls. And she was A LOT better than Lee during the finale and Lee still won.

It's not about racism. That's really stupid to think that. Philip Philips is a cute boy who sings pop rock songs on the guitar and majority of the Idol viewers who are tweens and moms LOVE that kind of thing (look at the past 5 winners). No matter how IMPRESSIVE Jessica Sanchez's voice is, hindi siya type ng mga nagboboto. I mean, Pia Toscano got kicked out early and she's just as good as Jessica in the vocal department.

White Gal(Girl) With Guitar - pwede din.
Pia is NOT as good as Jessica.

are you saying Im stupid? i hope not.

RU9 · « **Reply #3594 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:05 AM »

WGWG vocabulary was made at http://www.votefortheworst.com/.

Philip is WGWG5. It has always been White Guy With Guitar.

krets pulpol · « **Reply #3595 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM »

It just shows Pinoys are sore losers most of the time. Walang natatalo, dinaya lang lagi

Philjonc · « **Reply #3596 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM »

Quote from: krets pulpol on May 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM

It just shows Pinoys are sore losers most of the time. Walang natatalo, dinaya lang lagi

dinaya ba? kailangan magreklamo!
itigil na yan!

fattyacid · « **Reply #3597 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM »

May pattern na so anyone can dream to win the AI (anyone whos WGWG who has charm and can sing of course).

A1 12 will become a predictable papogian contest if they do not do major changes somewhere. Yung mga bumoto kay PP will be the same people to vote for the next AI making it a boring show for everyone else.

Philjonc · « **Reply #3598 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM »

Quote from: fattyacid on May 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

May pattern na so anyone can dream to win the AI (anyone whos WGWG who has charm and can sing of course).

A1 12 will become a predictable papogian contest if they do not do major changes somewhere. Yung mga bumoto kay PP will be the same people to vote for the next AI making it a boring show for everyone else.

so pwede ma-filter ng judges yan.

for me nasira na sana ni Jessica yan pattern na yan kung naging puti sya.

anchit · « **Reply #3599 on:** May 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM »

Quote from: fattyacid on May 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

May pattern na so anyone can dream to win the AI (anyone whos WGWG who has charm and can sing of course).

A1 12 will become a predictable papogian contest if they do not do major changes somewhere. Yung mga bumoto kay PP will be the same people to vote for the next AI making it a boring show for everyone else.

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