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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #960 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 12:31 PM »
I see. Sayang. Size and price is ok.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #961 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 12:37 PM »

Di ba ito available sa local market? Marami nyan dito sa ace hardware at true value stores. Other brands din and bigger sizes if required....
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #962 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 12:46 PM »
I will check. Thanks. Timber said may Stain & Finish sa Ace. I don't know if it's Minwax too. But he did say wood conditioner is not easy to find.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #963 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 02:42 PM »
It surprised me that local ace store does not have this supplies in their store. Just checked google, there's true value store at shangrila mall. May be you can inquire with them.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #964 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 05:08 PM »
I haven't seen Minwax here locally yet. Meron siguro pero rarely sold.

The Ace Stain & Finish is a good all-in-one solution. But for me, I opted to use stain and poly in separate cans since I wanted to apply a lot of poly varnish for that glass effect. Of course this is the more expensive route. Satin/matte finish also looks good though, mas natural ang dating. It really depends on what effect you want to achieve.

Audiojunkie, your stained wood looks really nice, very natural looking. What wood did you use? Parang kakaiba kasi ang wood grain lines e.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #965 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 05:51 PM »

The OB baffle I currently working on for its final form. Used different tone of shade and decided to have like flat finish. The mdf back panel finish with flat paint.

RXV, that wood were salvage from old wood table I found at the dumpster near the apt I'm staying. I grew up at countryside (promdi), woods have soft in my heart. I feel sad whenever I see people just throwing away or burning woods (my apology for being mellow dramatic). The table looks like those imported from Asia (Thailand or Malaysia). Not hardwood or expensive wood specie but good enough for commercial product. Have it machine planned to expose the natural color and my part lot of sanding and several coats of stain (sanding in between coats).

Polyshades label says 3in 1 that could mean it has primer/conditioner mixed with it. Tested with and without conditioner applied, wood grains with conditioner looks mode defined and natural than without.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #966 on: Jul 05, 2014 at 06:20 PM »
The OB baffle I currently working on for its final form. Used different tone of shade and decided to have like flat finish. The mdf back panel finish with flat paint.

RXV, that wood were salvage from old wood table I found at the dumpster near the apt I'm staying. I grew up at countryside (promdi), woods have soft in my heart. I feel sad whenever I see people just throwing away or burning woods (my apology for being mellow dramatic). The table looks like those imported from Asia (Thailand or Malaysia). Not hardwood or expensive wood specie but good enough for commercial product. Have it machine planned to expose the natural color and my part lot of sanding and several coats of stain (sanding in between coats).

Polyshades label says 3in 1 that could mean it has primer/conditioner mixed with it. Tested with and without conditioner applied, wood grains with conditioner looks mode defined and natural than without.



I really like your wood and its stain. Looks very homey and classy. I am also planning to build an outdoor table with that color (or maple like finish) in the future, like a camping table look.

Yes, I also tested on a piece of wood, with and without sanding sealer, to see if I could achieve the same look of stain with the two different methods.
Without sanding sealer, I sanded the wood with 80 grit, then 120, 240, 400, 600 and 1500 until as smooth as glass.
With sanding sealer on wood, I just sanded with 240 grit.
The results are revealing: The one with sanding sealer was smoother especially in the curves or where pores of the wood are, so the wood stain exhibited a more even tone throughout the wood.
The one without sanding sealer, although sanded super smooth, looked more natural, but still exposed the pores which were darker than the rest of the wood surface.
I choose to use sanding sealer for my project since that was the look that I desired. A necessary evil in my part. And exhaustive as well.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #967 on: Jul 06, 2014 at 03:54 AM »
That is bec sanding sealer makes the wood fiber bind more plus the chemicals it adds, the surface will often have a smoother finish.
Sanding wood up to 220 grit should be sufficient as an american publication found in test that there really is no benefit going any higher (unless you are sanding a very, very hard/dense wood). The result would be the same. Of course sanding wood with any type of finish would benefit higher grits.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #968 on: Jul 07, 2014 at 02:10 PM »
Got same results, I tried going up to a 1000 with sanding sealer on but found it to be somewhat unnecessary anymore. I ended up buffing the finish which I almost destroyed. Lesson learned.


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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #969 on: Jul 10, 2014 at 05:55 PM »
I applied laquer sanding sealer and then Boysen oil based walnut stain. I like the results. What Boysen finish is compatible with this? Actually, I like how it looks now. Do I have to apply a finish?




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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #970 on: Jul 10, 2014 at 06:49 PM »
BOYSEN Clear Gloss Lacquer worked for me.
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« Reply #971 on: Jul 10, 2014 at 07:00 PM »
These speakers are very open sounding. Very smooth. No whizzer shout. Seamless mid to upper band. Sparkling top end. Very airy. Well rounded and deep bass thanks in part to a 10"sub. It reveals the rounded, snappy character of my APPJ tube amp with reasonable detail. Satisfying attack of guitar plucks, bass plucks, snare drums, and drum impacts.





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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #972 on: Jul 10, 2014 at 11:39 PM »
Congrats! Looks like all that elbow grease has paid off.

You can seal it again with sanding sealer if you like but I think the stain has to dry first and since that's oil based mga ilan araw mo muna patuyuin.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #973 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 10:18 AM »
Elbow grease and back pain ha ha. But back's ok now. Napagod lang.
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #974 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM »
Nice job Gino..... :D

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #975 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM »
Thanks, Joey. It was a fun project. I learned much thanks to all of you. It certainly minimized build disasters. But best of all, objectives were met. The speakers are a perfect match with the 3.5W APPJ mini tube amp. It has satisfying head room. The size perfect for my desktop.

Still to be done: install the speaker input terminals and mount the drivers with screws.

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Re: Fostex FE126EN Bookshelf Speakers
« Reply #976 on: Jul 11, 2014 at 09:44 PM »
These speakers are very open sounding. Very smooth. No whizzer shout. Seamless mid to upper band. Sparkling top end. Very airy. Well rounded and deep bass thanks in part to a 10"sub. It reveals the rounded, snappy character of my APPJ tube amp with reasonable detail. Satisfying attack of guitar plucks, bass plucks, snare drums, and drum impacts.







Looking really good. Im a fan of simplicity and this fits the bill. I admire you for plunging in DIY. Im thinking of talking to a carpenter na lang for my needs for the AN's I'm ordering.

UIY gagawin ko (utos it yourself) hehehehe... Wala kasi akong carpentry skills.

Kidding aside. Nice job hope I can hear it based on your SQ descriptions.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #977 on: Jul 12, 2014 at 12:19 AM »
Installed the speaker terminals.


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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #978 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 08:22 AM »
nice wala na dumadaan wire sa ports... ;D

sulit ang pagod at hirap ;)


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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #979 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 09:41 AM »
Nainis lang ako na after soldering spade females on the internal cables, hindi ko nagamit on the speaker side dahil sinagad ng Fostex yung male tabs up against the magnet. I had to solder the cables direct. I wanted sana removable. Anyway, sounds very good. That's all that matters.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #980 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 09:55 AM »
Speaking of spades, mas convenient nga kung meron. Yesterday nagbaklas kami ng diy speakers sobrang hassle talaga pag direct solder.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #981 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM »
Oo nga.

Sa ngayon, spade connector yung sa box terminal side. So madali mabaklas basta hindi palit cable ang objective. Naka-shrink wrap pa yung mga female spades. Ang pogi.  Hindi makabit kasi ang sikip ng location ng male spades sa speaker. So ayun ginupit ko yung sa speaker side. Then I soldered them. Mahirap maging OC.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #982 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM »
Nasanay na lang din ako ng walang spades, dati nun nag diy ako ng spakers palagi direct solder ang connections. Kaso lang kapag ganun may tagahawak ka pa kapag magbabaklas ka.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #983 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 10:41 AM »
Sino sa mga kids a mahilig mag-assist? Anybody picking up your skills?

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #984 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 03:06 PM »
Installed the speaker terminals.



Nice build, Gino! Congrats!
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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #985 on: Jul 14, 2014 at 03:29 PM »
Salamat. Enjoy din.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #986 on: Jul 15, 2014 at 11:34 PM »
These speakers are very open sounding. Very smooth. No whizzer shout. Seamless mid to upper band. Sparkling top end. Very airy. Well rounded and deep bass thanks in part to a 10"sub. It reveals the rounded, snappy character of my APPJ tube amp with reasonable detail. Satisfying attack of guitar plucks, bass plucks, snare drums, and drum impacts.







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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #987 on: Jul 17, 2014 at 10:41 AM »
Uy, salamat.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #988 on: Jul 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM »
Sino sa mga kids a mahilig mag-assist? Anybody picking up your skills?

Thankfully lahat naman sila, pero si bunso ang pinakamalakas makasira... which is promising imho. ;D

Mahilig din lahat sa audio kaya I was thinking of putting a pair of fr into service para sa kanila, di lang ako sure kung pwede fr very wide ang genre to fill, the other night Gloc 9 ang trip ni bunso.

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Re: Speaker DIY'ers
« Reply #989 on: Jul 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM »
Ha ha ayos. Ganyan din ako. Lahat ng toys ko baklas.

Ok balak mong FR for the junior audiophiles. Exciting project.