Author Topic: Rotel CD Player (Read 49642 times)

ericgnu · « **Reply #90 on:** Mar 17, 2005 at 09:33 PM »

Good Pm,

I am a newbie and just recently, an old relative of mine gave me a rcc 935 carousel cd player. The problem with it is the laser lens seemed to hive died out already.

Do your guys know a good shop where I could have the lens replaced? and how much is the usual charge?

Also, any of you guys know whether this rcc 935 is capable of playing cdrs as well. I have quite a number of cdr backups and it would be a dissapointment if I wont be able to pay them on the rotel.

Your inputs would be well appreciated.

eric

Audionuts · « **Reply #91 on:** Mar 18, 2005 at 09:57 AM »

Audioworld Tech. may help you they service a wide range of rotel gears.

742-6843 look for Jason

slayer · « **Reply #92 on:** Mar 21, 2005 at 04:24 PM »

I think its bnew, i took a closer look at it.

Quote from: av_phile1 on Mar 17, 2005 at 06:27 PM

Fronting True Value in Park Square. Is That Sound Dimension? The RCD971 uses a dual 20-bit Burr-Brown DAC with HDCD filtering & decoding. The model is around 5-years old. I wonder if its preowned.

gaol · « **Reply #93 on:** Mar 21, 2005 at 05:06 PM »

Quote from: slayer on Mar 21, 2005 at 04:24 PM

I think its bnew, i took a closer look at it.

I believe that's what you would call NOS (new old stock).

Pwede ring OOP (out of print)?

av_phile1 · « **Reply #94 on:** Apr 07, 2005 at 09:39 AM »

Just visited sound dimension yesterday and their 971 looks brand new complete with box and accessories.Â Must be an old stock unsold for the past 5 years! They also have a 1070 for 25T without box that's totally black, my color.Â This is probably either a display model or preowned. Â ;DÂ Unfortunately the proprietor wasn't there to answer my questions and the sales ladies were not of any help.Â

They also have this Onkyo 502 DVD player that plays SACD for less than 18T.Â Â I'm once again in agony.Â Â

5Speed · « **Reply #95 on:** Apr 07, 2005 at 10:58 AM »

Quote from: av_phile1 on Apr 07, 2005 at 09:39 AM

Just visited sound dimension yesterday and their 971 looks brand new complete with box and accessories. Must be an old stock unsold for the past 5 years! They also have a 1070 for 25T without box that's totally black, my color. This is probably either a display model or preowned. Unfortunately the proprietor wasn't there to answer my questions and the sales ladies were not of any help.

They also have this Onkyo 502 DVD player that plays SACD for less than 18T. I'm once again in agony.

I do understand your sentiments......hehehehe

av_phile1 · « **Reply #96 on:** Apr 18, 2005 at 09:55 AM »

Was able to talk to the guys at Sound DImension. The RCD971 and 1070 were used as demo units. No boxes, no manuals. No surface scatches. Remotes intact. They're essentially pre-owned, just rarely used.

nephilim · « **Reply #97 on:** Apr 18, 2005 at 11:43 AM »

I use a 1072

moks · « **Reply #98 on:** Jan 21, 2006 at 07:22 PM »

what's the difference bet. rcd-02 and rcd-1072?

KEN · « **Reply #99 on:** Jan 22, 2006 at 08:32 PM »

Quote from: moks on Jan 21, 2006 at 07:22 PM

what's the difference bet. rcd-02 and rcd-1072?

hi i'm using rcd02 as transport, its their enrty level cdp. check out this link might help you...

http://www.htguide.com/forum/showthread.php4?t=1989&highlight=RCD-02

Bogsle · « **Reply #100 on:** Jan 23, 2006 at 11:36 AM »

I've had the chance to own an RCD-02 before and I say it's good enough for an entry level CDP. Then I heard the RCD-1072 of Kimpoy during one of the shoot-out sessions, and boy was it better. Mas may authority, mas detail and more thump.

Dapat lang noh, RCD-02 is the entry level CDP while the RDC-1072 is the high end CDP product of Rotel. Sa parts na lang you can compare, yung -02 only has the standard block transformer while the -1072 has the torrodial one and much more premium parts.

Ok, dun sa mga RCD-02 owners, comparison lang to ha. Eh yun naman ang tutoo eh. Pero I'm not saying di maganda ang RCD-02, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. The -02 is quite a good CDP also for the price.

During the time the I bought the -02 the cost was 25k then yung -1072 was 36k. I'm not sure of the price now.

Okay ba?

Bogsle · « **Reply #101 on:** Jan 23, 2006 at 11:42 AM »

Just to add information (or confusion), you can also look for an and RCD-971, if you are on a budget.

This is around 6 or 5 years old na, pero it sounded much better also than the RCD-02 during th shoot out.

I don't know this exactly, but it seems basta high end yung product, kahit luma na, its performance is better pa rin even if you compare it to newer entry level products of the same brand.

Just my thought po.

KEN · « **Reply #102 on:** Jan 23, 2006 at 05:44 PM »

Quote from: Bogsle on Jan 23, 2006 at 11:36 AM

I've had the chance to own an RCD-02 before and I say it's good enough for an entry level CDP. Then I heard the RCD-1072 of Kimpoy during one of the shoot-out sessions, and boy was it better. Mas may authority, mas detail and more thump.

Dapat lang noh, RCD-02 is the entry level CDP while the RDC-1072 is the high end CDP product of Rotel. Sa parts na lang you can compare, yung -02 only has the standard block transformer while the -1072 has the torrodial one and much more premium parts.

Ok, dun sa mga RCD-02 owners, comparison lang to ha. Eh yun naman ang tutoo eh. Pero I'm not saying di maganda ang RCD-02, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. The -02 is quite a good CDP also for the price.

During the time the I bought the -02 the cost was 25k then yung -1072 was 36k. I'm not sure of the price now.

Okay ba?

Yup RCD02 is ok for its price... got mine from Adelphi/Sing. for 16k PHP before...then manage to add MF X10v3 together with XDAC and XPSU V3 later...sounds better though hindi ko pa na compare side by side with 1072.

If budget is not a problem i would go for 1072... or 1070 other wise get RCD02 and upgrade later but at little bit costlier in the end ngalang di biglaan and the same case for the MF Xv3 series pwedeng pa isa isa.

cheers

vvt-i · « **Reply #103 on:** Feb 05, 2006 at 11:47 AM »

update natin

~~1. kimpao rcd 1072~~
2. slayer 971
3. murcielago 1070
4. narayan 965bx
~~5. jetok 1070~~
6. KEN 02
7. levi 961
8. gaol 971
9. KD 945AX
10. sauron_cookie 1072
11. audioboy 971
12. phones 991
13. ken rcd-02
14. nephilim 1072
15. new_age 971

old_age · « **Reply #104 on:** Feb 07, 2006 at 11:18 PM »

Thanks Jetok for the heads up.

Here's my share on this thread...

Inside RCD971... bundles of BlackGates on one side of the PCB... a pair of big Rotel Caps.... a pair of BurrBrown OPA2604, a pair of BurrBrown PCM63 DAC.

Big torroidal transformer... bundles of Nichicon caps on one side.

vvt-i · « **Reply #105 on:** Feb 08, 2006 at 11:28 PM »

new_age,

all i can say is...........i miss my rotel. :'(

old_age · « **Reply #106 on:** Feb 08, 2006 at 11:48 PM »

jetok,

it's not yet too late to bring back the warm and dynamic memories of your 1070...

Superman · « **Reply #107 on:** Feb 09, 2006 at 10:01 AM »

Quote from: jetok on Feb 08, 2006 at 11:28 PM

new_age,

all i can say is...........i miss my rotel. :'(

may binebentang RCD-951 sa marketplace bro

slayer · « **Reply #108 on:** Feb 09, 2006 at 10:31 AM »

new_age,

Congrats sa 971... for keeps ito!!

old_age · « **Reply #109 on:** Feb 09, 2006 at 07:50 PM »

slayer,

i totally agree with you! couldn't ask for more. regards!

MAtZTER · « **Reply #110 on:** Apr 04, 2006 at 03:54 PM »

Anyone selling their 971? My friend is on the lookout for one

Voltraizer · « **Reply #111 on:** Apr 16, 2006 at 12:54 PM »

Reviews:
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/digital/messages/38171.html
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=1952
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_read.asp?ID=2751

vvt-i · « **Reply #112 on:** Apr 16, 2006 at 01:07 PM »

new rcd-06 replacing the rcd-02?

no more HDCD decoder $:-\$

RCD-06 RCD-02

http://europe.rotel.com/series06/specs/rcd06.htm

Bogsle · « **Reply #113 on:** Apr 17, 2006 at 12:35 AM »

Quote from: jetok on Apr 16, 2006 at 01:07 PM

new rcd-06 replacing the rcd-02? no more HDCD decoder $:-\$

Yeah. But it now employs 24bit sampling rate.

Past Rotel CDPs (RCD02 & even the RCD1072) employ only 18bit sampling.

rascal101 · « **Reply #114 on:** Apr 18, 2006 at 05:15 PM »

Quote from: Bogsle on Apr 17, 2006 at 12:35 AM

Yeah. But it now employs 24bit sampling rate.

Past Rotel CDPs (RCD02 & even the RCD1072) employ only 18bit sampling.

I thought sampling rate was measured in KHz?

Voltraizer · « **Reply #115 on:** Apr 19, 2006 at 11:12 AM »

Quote from: jetok on Apr 16, 2006 at 01:07 PM

new rcd-06 replacing the rcd-02? no more HDCD decoder $:-\$

RCD-06 RCD-02

http://europe.rotel.com/series06/specs/rcd06.htm

Rotel wasn't that much successful with their 1072 model which only got 3 star rating both from whatt hi-fi and hi-fi choice since consumer easily conclude that 24 bit cd player are superior sounding than 18 bit. (24 bit are actually 20 bit the last 4 bits are just marketing bits). The continued use of burr-brown PCM 1732 DAC has sometnig to do with the on-board HDCD decoder. But make no mistake that 971 or 1070 rotel are for keeps. It can beat most 24 bit cd player .
Even user of monica2dac will tell you 0 sampling might be better than upsampling. It's the over all engineering design and philosophy that counts a lot not the technical marketing jargons or lies . Jetok, ano pinalit mo sa 1070?

vvt-i · « **Reply #116 on:** Apr 20, 2006 at 01:49 AM »

voltraizer,

i went analog......rega planar 3. i thought i can live without a cd player pero hinahanap-hanap ko yung remote , skip, repeat, etc etc ng cd player kaya i got a surplus but reliable cd player - victor xl-z701.....serves its purpose....CONVENIENCE.

odyopayl · « **Reply #117 on:** Apr 20, 2006 at 12:26 PM »

I thought sampling rate was measured in KHz?

Sampling rate measures in Khz but should always associated with the speed of your processor, lets say 24bit/192khz....18/96........24/96

SPEED: 8/12/18/24 Bit
SAMPLING: 48/96/192 khz

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #118 on:** Apr 20, 2006 at 03:28 PM »

Quote from: odyopayl on Apr 20, 2006 at 12:26 PM

SPEED: 8/12/18/24 Bit
SAMPLING: 48/96/192 khz

Being more of a computer geek, I would suggest the term:

RESOLUTION : 8/12/18/24 Bit

Pertaining more to the sample content quantity or digital data chunk size. Of course, the bigger the chunks are the faster your processor needs to be in order to attain a certain sampling rate. So it has a relation to speed as well. Though the term speed kasi parang rate din eh. Just a suggestion.

odyopayl · « **Reply #119 on:** Apr 20, 2006 at 05:29 PM »

RESOLUTION : 8/12/18/24 Bit

- Actually it's like voltage & current they should always be together.

Resolution is actually depends on sampling rate when you say 96khz and 192 khz these are actually the resolution kaya nga sampling.
8/12/18/24bit - is the speed how your processor reads the data. If i'm not mistaken 1bit is equivalent to 8 characters per second reading.

By Analogy between AUDIO resolution (digital) by sampling rate in khz and Picture resolution by Pixel, more pixel better resolution.