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Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« on: Aug 12, 2004 at 11:22 AM »
Please post results of opamp rolling on this thread  :)

I am currently contemplating on switching opamps of a DAC which uses OPA2604. I plan to switch it with AD8066 opamps

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #1 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 11:25 AM »
Stop planning! Go ahead!  ;D ;D ;D

Then tell us what happened.  ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #2 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 11:37 AM »
John,

OO nga naman no wrong in experimenting.. ;)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #3 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 12:10 PM »
The 8066 is the flagship model today, we are with you all the way! Go john go!

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #4 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 12:49 PM »
hehe there are some that changed opamps already so i would like to hear their views as this will be the first time i will be doing it wala pa yung chips e inaantay ko pa :)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #5 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 12:52 PM »
The 8066 is the flagship model today!

hope to get my pair of AD8066 and brown dog adapters in few weeks time...  ;D ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #6 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:09 PM »
guys,

can somebody help me get a pair of AD8066?



thanks.

please pm me the price and source of this OPA.

 
« Last Edit: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:10 PM by JulsP168 »

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #7 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:15 PM »
kung maaga aga ka lang, we could have jointly placed our order. a minimum of 5 pairs ang order kaya maghanap ka muna ng mga kasama mo.  :P ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #8 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:18 PM »
The 8066 is the flagship model today, we are with you all the way! Go john go!

sir,

pwede ba magpalagay ng sa cdp ko?

here's the pic of OPA2604 installed in my cdp.

thanks.  ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #9 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:22 PM »
kung maaga aga ka lang, we could have jointly placed our order. a minimum of 5 pairs ang order kaya maghanap ka muna ng mga kasama mo.  :P ;D

minimum of 5 pairs pala ???

cge, sa mga umorder na pero di nagustuhan result ng 8066, benta nyo sakin yan. bibilihin ko........masmura syempre.  ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #10 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:27 PM »
julsp168, pareho tayo ng papalitan ng opamp, kaya dapat pwede rin sa iyo  :)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #11 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:52 PM »


minimum of 5 pairs pala ???

cge, sa mga umorder na pero di nagustuhan result ng 8066, benta nyo sakin yan. bibilihin ko........masmura syempre.  ;D

Actually sir 5 pieces lang. The total cost is $17.95 inclusive $6 shipping. That's about P208 per browndog shipped. It will come in a thick envelope so directso na sa doorstep mo and bypassed na dapat yung post office para wala ka nang babayaran na tax.


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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #12 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:58 PM »
Mga sir reminder lang--maybe you already know this. Check nyo muna voltage going to your opamps (pins 4 and 8 ) just in case it's higher than +-12V which is the max for ad8066. The BBs kasi have higher supply voltage and Rotel might be supplying 15 or so volts. For NADs you're already safe.
« Last Edit: Aug 12, 2004 at 01:59 PM by Garp »

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #13 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 03:08 PM »
Dali lang gawin yan brown dog adaptor, pero sa price nya it's better na bumili na lang kayo ng original dba. Especially for those who are not inclined to DIY.

Like Garp said, better check your V+ and V- with respect to ground. If ever na higher than +/-12V you can always solder a 24V zener diode at the V+ and V- pins of the socket or adjust the regulator that supplies the opamps. This may cause your cdp's peak-to-peak output to be lower becasue of the lower supply.

Special Note: The zener solution has it's own debate between audiophiles and design engineers due to the inherent zener noise, the regulator adjustment is more acceptable than the zener solution as to their standards.  ;)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #14 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 03:16 PM »
Another reminder: As some of you may already know, fast opamps that are regarded as good sounding ones have a temperamental side.... they oscillate when not properly bypassed.

In the case of the AD8066 with a GBW product of 145MHz, these babies are almost always in the mood for oscillation therefore need proper bypassing for a worry free operation.

A safety reminder from your neighborhood DIYer  ;)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #15 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 03:18 PM »
i have read in one sight that 8066 is a direct replacement for 2604. no need for browndog right?

dont know how to get the voltage, that's the problem!  ;D

anyway, wala pa naman ako replacement.

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #16 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 03:55 PM »
kasama sa budget yang bypass caps, pero antayin ko muna yung ad8066  ::)

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #17 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 03:58 PM »
i have read in one sight that 8066 is a direct replacement for 2604. no need for browndog right?

dont know how to get the voltage, that's the problem!  ;D

anyway, wala pa naman ako replacement.


Kailangan din sir kasi yung 2604 (same size as the pic above) is a DIP package. The ad8066 is SO8. As to voltage, one is you can use a meter--one probe goes to pin 4 and the other to the chassis. Do the same for pin 8. Or maybe just look at the pair of voltage regulators nearest the opamps. If they're 12 or 9 volt regulators I think its safe to assume puwede na. Tama ba sir Jojo?

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #18 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 04:06 PM »


Kailangan din sir kasi yung 2604 (same size as the pic above) is a DIP package. The ad8066 is SO8. As to voltage, one is you can use a meter--one probe goes to pin 4 and the other to the chassis. Do the same for pin 8. Or maybe just look at the pair of voltage regulators nearest the opamps. If they're 12 or 9 volt regulators I think its safe to assume puwede na. Tama ba sir Jojo?

eto ang kailangan http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/browndog/browndog_so8_8pindip.htm

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #19 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 04:20 PM »
Please post results of opamp rolling on this thread  :)

I am currently contemplating on switching opamps of a DAC which uses OPA2604. I plan to switch it with AD8066 opamps
Try to visit website of Burrbrown & Analog device the specs are really Day & Night!
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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #21 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 04:48 PM »


Kailangan din sir kasi yung 2604 (same size as the pic above) is a DIP package. The ad8066 is SO8. As to voltage, one is you can use a meter--one probe goes to pin 4 and the other to the chassis. Do the same for pin 8. Or maybe just look at the pair of voltage regulators nearest the opamps. If they're 12 or 9 volt regulators I think its safe to assume puwede na. Tama ba sir Jojo?

thanks for the info pre. will try to do that.

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #22 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 05:51 PM »
Stop planning! Go ahead!  ;D ;D ;D

Then tell us what happened.  ;D
Sir How about this kind of OP Amp upgrade?
http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/images/ppacks/musichall/opamps_l.jpg

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #23 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 06:09 PM »

Try to visit website of Burrbrown & Analog device the specs are really Day & Night!

There is no question about the specs, but can the sonics be day and night too?

Let's just hope that for our application it is.  ;D

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« Reply #24 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 06:13 PM »


Kailangan din sir kasi yung 2604 (same size as the pic above) is a DIP package. The ad8066 is SO8. As to voltage, one is you can use a meter--one probe goes to pin 4 and the other to the chassis. Do the same for pin 8. Or maybe just look at the pair of voltage regulators nearest the opamps. If they're 12 or 9 volt regulators I think its safe to assume puwede na. Tama ba sir Jojo?

Almost...  ;D What if the designer used adjustable regulators like the LM317/337 combo? Your first suggestion is the best.  ;)

Or the most simple way is to measure the voltage between pins 8 and 4 with pin 8 as positive potential. If it's powered from a +/-12 psu then you'll measure  24V between pins 8 and 4.  ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #25 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 06:18 PM »
Ok, enough of this techno babble ;D

Garp, Audioslave,

How/Where can I get/buy this 5 pcs of AD8066 in brown dog adapters for $17.95???

I only need 2, so 3 slots open for others...

BTW, how longish does it take to get to my doorstep?  ;D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #26 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 09:05 PM »
Ok, enough of this techno babble ;D

Garp, Audioslave,

How/Where can I get/buy this 5 pcs of AD8066 in brown dog adapters for $17.95???

I only need 2, so 3 slots open for others...

BTW, how longish does it take to get to my doorstep?  ;D

I'll take the next 2 slots >:D

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Re: Opamp rolling for cd players and DACs??
« Reply #27 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 09:12 PM »
1 slot daw para kay julsp168 :) kung ayaw nya akin nq lang ;D

game 5 na - lets volt in!
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 09:16 PM »
at least 5 naman e so pwedeng makisali yung iba, group buy  O0

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« Reply #29 on: Aug 12, 2004 at 09:25 PM »
Alright!!! Group buy, group buy!