Topic: SAKURA AMP

[hattori_hanzo]

guys just want to ask an advice kung magkanu ba ang mga mic mixer ngaun? meron kasi kami sa bahay Paramax ang tatak nya kaso sira, ang sabi ng technician eh IC daw ang sira and it will cost me 1k+ kung ipapagawa ko sya. meron bang murang mic mixer? ok na rin ba kung papagawa ko na lang ung mixer namin? thanks!

bro mukhang mas oks kung bibili ka na lang ng brand new. 1,3k lang ang brand new digital mic mixer sa raon (6 channels pa) your choice of brand and model.

but as an exception or reason, kung professional yan paramax mo, eh mas maganda kung ipaparepair mo yan.

[jerix]

bro mukhang mas oks kung bibili ka na lang ng brand new. 1,3k lang ang brand new digital mic mixer sa raon (6 channels pa) your choice of brand and model.

but as an exception or reason, kung professional yan paramax mo, eh mas maganda kung ipaparepair mo yan.

Bro hattori yan bang sinasabi mo na 1.3k na digital mixer me DSP na yan? tnx 

[av_phile1]

O.T.: sir, what model po ng Behringer Mic Mixer 'to? I'm eyeing kasi yung Xenyx 1002FX (2-input MIC, less than 6T ), kaya lang with what you mentioned here, tingnan ko muna 'tong model na 'to , four mic inputs with digital fx for 5.2T - mukhang lumalabas na mas mura to.

thnx.

It's the Behringer Xenyx 1202FX.  It's just a step-up from the 1002FX with 2 more mic /line inputs, but otherwise, same features.  Accdg to the sales guy at the Behringer shop at Park square, only 5.2T.  I didn't pursue, medyo sumama loob ko kasi the same model I bought at Raon, thinking that's the cheapest place to shop for such things, was 8T.     Either that or the sales guy had the price list confused with another.  Just check it out there and confirm. 

Correction, it has 100 DSP effects, not 60 as I posted earlier (was confusing it with a ZOOM guitar effects processor I have  ) 

[hattori_hanzo]

Bro hattori yan bang sinasabi mo na 1.3k na digital mixer me DSP na yan? tnx 

bro hindi yan, yung 1,3k na sinasabi ko effects mixer lang yun (mic volume, echo, reverb etc etc) walang DSP. kaya ko ni rerecommend yung may separate na DSP kasi just in case gusto mo mag dagdag or mag upgrade ng audio mixer hindi madadali yung DSP effects. lagi pede i-route sa ibang mixer. kasi kung integrated yung DSP sa mixer pag nag upgrade ka madadale pati built-in DSP effects mo.

[hattori_hanzo]

It's the Behringer Xenyx 1202FX.  It's just a step-up from the 1002FX with 2 more mic /line inputs, but otherwise, same features.  Accdg to the sales guy at the Behringer shop at Park square, only 5.2T.  I didn't pursue, medyo sumama loob ko kasi the same model I bought at Raon, thinking that's the cheapest place to shop for such things, was 8T.     Either that or the sales guy had the price list confused with another.  Just check it out there and confirm. 

Correction, it has 100 DSP effects, not 60 as I posted earlier (was confusing it with a ZOOM guitar effects processor I have  ) 

sir av are you sure 5.2k lang to? if this is true what a bargain. kasi yung Digitech Studio 100 nasa 10k na wala pang mixer. 100 program presets din pero dual engine. saka pede personal effects program... 

[sphanuel]

Sir av_phile, san store po mabibili behringer Xenyx 1202FX any contact number?

Sir hattori_hanzo, e yung Digitech po san po mabibili?

thanks

[Cy]

It's the Behringer Xenyx 1202FX.  It's just a step-up from the 1002FX with 2 more mic /line inputs, but otherwise, same features.  Accdg to the sales guy at the Behringer shop at Park square, only 5.2T.  I didn't pursue, medyo sumama loob ko kasi the same model I bought at Raon, thinking that's the cheapest place to shop for such things, was 8T.     Either that or the sales guy had the price list confused with another.  Just check it out there and confirm. 

Correction, it has 100 DSP effects, not 60 as I posted earlier (was confusing it with a ZOOM guitar effects processor I have  ) 

wow!   thank you sir, care to share the name of the store?

[jappy23]

  guys need help lang po...what will i buy na brand po to set-up good quality videoke amplifier,speaker,mic,equalizer...yung pwede sa budget na 5k ano po maganda pero mura na dvd na built-in videoke? how much kaya un? ok lang kaya ung proline?

[av_phile1]

sir av are you sure 5.2k lang to? if this is true what a bargain. kasi yung Digitech Studio 100 nasa 10k na wala pang mixer. 100 program presets din pero dual engine. saka pede personal effects program... 

I bought exactly the same model for 8T at a Raon shop specializing in studio gears.  Kaya nga na-shock ako when the sales guy at the Behringer shop at Park Square said 5.2T, just barely 2 mos after I bought one.  Maybe nagkamali lang siya.  Or maybe nagkmali lang and turo ko.  Maybe 1002FX yun.   But just check it out.   It's at a shop at Park Sqaure.  You won't miss it as the name BEHRINGER is prominently displayed at the shop door.  It deals mostly with studio equipment near some computer shops if not mistaken. 

[av_phile1]

wow!   thank you sir, care to share the name of the store?

Behringer,  near some computer shops at Park Square, Makati.

[av_phile1]

kasi yung Digitech Studio 100 nasa 10k na wala pang mixer. 100 program presets din pero dual engine. saka pede personal effects program... 

Well, maybe it has superior DSP effects kaya mas mahal.   Often, separates are really more expensive. Most professional mixers out there have no effects.  You get the effects processing from a separate box which can be just as expensive. A rack-mountable DBX effects proccesor I inquired  already costs close to 30T. 

The Alesis Multimix 8 is also a good choice for roughly around 12T at the 5th Ave shop at Park Square.  Better than the Behringer of the same quality due to the presence of a USB connection.  So you can record your mixes directly to a PC in digital mode.

[hattori_hanzo]

guys need help lang po...what will i buy na brand po to set-up good quality videoke amplifier,speaker,mic,equalizer...yung pwede sa budget na 5k ano po maganda pero mura na dvd na built-in videoke? how much kaya un? ok lang kaya ung proline?

bro at 5k medyo mahihirapan tayo dyan, extend mo pa, kasi masasayang lang kung bibili ka ng cheap ones...

[hattori_hanzo]

yup sir AV, seperates are better. DSP engines can always be routed in a mixer and assignable to each channel by effects control.

btw. I just went to one of the surplus shops and saw 3 units of rack mountable 12 channels Dbx mixer selling for only 7k with effects route and complete adjustable settings (bss, trbl, panning, efx, vol control etc etc) sayang I dont have money at hand sana andun pa pag balik ko.       

[jappy23]

bro at 5k medyo mahihirapan tayo dyan, extend mo pa, kasi masasayang lang kung bibili ka ng cheap ones...

ano-ano po ba bibilin ko to have dvd-videoke,at mga speakers...gusto ko po kasing magset-up nito sa bahay...hope for your advise po...how much po kailangan ko..

pakilagay na lang po sana mga kailangan ko and how much??? pwede po ba din magpaturo how to set-up...punta po kasi ko sa Raon..

[hattori_hanzo]

ano-ano po ba bibilin ko to have dvd-videoke,at mga speakers...gusto ko po kasing magset-up nito sa bahay...hope for your advise po...how much po kailangan ko..

pakilagay na lang po sana mga kailangan ko and how much??? pwede po ba din magpaturo how to set-up...punta po kasi ko sa Raon..

well you can always start with the basic setup:

1.) multi channel amp
2.) audio mic mixer
3.) speakers
4.) DVD videoke machine
5.) microphones
6.) TV monitor

but if you want a high quality vocal reproduction you can always seek this gears:

1.) Yamaha receiver (obviously because of the DSP) for ambient sound.
2.) 5 channel Power amp (youll only need this if your Yamaha receiver has a low power rating).
3.) multi channel audio mic mixer. (preferably with complete effects control. echo, reverb, panning, intensity etc.).
4.) vocoder DSP (you can always choose from behringer, digitech and if your lucky Yamaha DSP sa Pier) this is for studio quality vocal enhancement.
5.) 5 channel speakers system (prefereably with highpower capabilities) and a sub (if ever you get tired of videoke you can always switch to HT).
6.) DVD videoke machine (you can always choose from karavision, hyundai or platinum).
7.) microphones (Shure SM58 or for the best Shure BETA 87c or senheizer E series).
8.) and of course TV monitor (your choice of size).         
           

[Compaq]

Was in Electronics Depot (Ali Mall) yesterday and boy, Behringer gears galore 

I inquired on the following items -

Behringer Xenyx 802, 1002FX & 1202FX. 20% off pa sa list price. Kaya lang 802 and 1002 lang ang stock.

I must admit, it was triggered by your posts here  . I got worried and realized that i need to do something about my gears. Am currently using my HT setup (Yamaha 650, B&W 602s3) as my Videoke with Hyundai Platinum as the source. Primary concern is the speaker but I got intrigued and interested in av_phile1's mixer.

Tanong lang, pwede na ba yung mga Konzert speakers sa Raon (worth 3k-5k)? If i opt not to use my Yamaha anymore, will a China/generic-amp aptly do the job? TIA

Cheers!!!
Compaq

[jhian1122]

sir if you're going to use Konzerts speakers at Raon for  videoke purposes, it would be great rather than using your HT speakers. Its much cheaper and sound quality was great especially for vocals. Some people say, "litaw ang boses mo". You can save up some money to buy gears that could add up for your HT.

 

[hattori_hanzo]

kung hindi naman ganun ka expensive yung HT speakers mo like mine Euros 8 im using it for videoke, hindi naman ako ganun ka harabas gumamit, besides dun mo malalaman kung maganda ang performance ng speakers, imagine kung pangit ang vocal reproduction ng HT speakers mo, papano pa kaya sa mga magagandang CD recordings or HT applications (with sudden burst of effects)?

speakers differ from each application like those long throw bass bins and horn PA speakers, they are more designed to be used on special or sometimes difficult situations (eg. stage, studio, touring or fixed installations) and also using different power sources (eg. power amps) and by these harsh condition (mic drop, feedbacks etc.)can affect speakers....

but a speaker is a speaker, no matter what brand or type it is, primary purpose is to reproduce sounds. so even if you use those konzerts speakers youve mentioned, still same purpose as your HT speakers. mas bitin ka pa nga sa konzert speakers kasi it is using those paper type tweeters and 1 woofer. unlike sa HT speakers na tama ang pagkaka arrayed with metal dome tweeters, midrange and woofers. so sa tingin mo ano ang mag rereproduce ng magandang vocals?

just me though!!!       

[Compaq]

Hi hattori_hanzo,

Yeah, I agree with you - "a speaker is a speaker". My situation is, am worried with my 602s, so am thinking of getting another set for my videoke sessions. Kaya kung madale man, hindi masakit sa dibdib  . Last night, i saw a pair of Konzert Speaker (malapad ang itsura nya, parang yung mga dipole/bipole) costing around 4,000, 200watts daw. Ok na rin siguro 'to, just have to check the price in Raon.

Btw, allan1836, pasensya na bro, na-hijack na 'tong thread mo. So, are you done with your purchase(s)?

Cheers!!!
Compaq

[hattori_hanzo]

Hi hattori_hanzo,

Yeah, I agree with you - "a speaker is a speaker". My situation is, am worried with my 602s, so am thinking of getting another set for my videoke sessions. Kaya kung madale man, hindi masakit sa dibdib  . Last night, i saw a pair of Konzert Speaker (malapad ang itsura nya, parang yung mga dipole/bipole) costing around 4,000, 200watts daw. Ok na rin siguro 'to, just have to check the price in Raon.

Btw, allan1836, pasensya na bro, na-hijack na 'tong thread mo. So, are you done with your purchase(s)?

Cheers!!!
Compaq

yup those konzert that looks like BOSE 802's right? but those speaker easily blows, specially the woofer's. my friend has them and just for 3 months of use, kaput! the older brother of that konzert speakers the KSS-10 a 3way horn loaded with 500W rating on 8 Ohms at 96db is much better, priced at 6k you will need speaker stands for this and will cost you 2k more. but if I were you it is much better to get the Euros 5 or 6 towers speakers for videoke use if your goin to use it for indoor's only cost around 5k.     

[Cy]

Was in Electronics Depot (Ali Mall) yesterday and boy, Behringer gears galore 

I inquired on the following items -

Behringer Xenyx 802, 1002FX & 1202FX. 20% off pa sa list price. Kaya lang 802 and 1002 lang ang stock.

I must admit, it was triggered by your posts here  . I got worried and realized that i need to do something about my gears. Am currently using my HT setup (Yamaha 650, B&W 602s3) as my Videoke with Hyundai Platinum as the source. Primary concern is the speaker but I got intrigued and interested in av_phile1's mixer.

Tanong lang, pwede na ba yung mga Konzert speakers sa Raon (worth 3k-5k)? If i opt not to use my Yamaha anymore, will a China/generic-amp aptly do the job? TIA

Cheers!!!
Compaq

sir, if i were you magpapa-reserve na ako yung xenex 1002FX na binili ko sa kanila (Electronics Depot-Ali Mall) 1 week ko bago dumating yung stock, last saturday ko lang nakuha... meron ako nakikita  dito sa Electronics Depot-Robinson pero i wonder bakit iba presyo nila  mas mura sa Ali Mall...

[rj]

just new here.

just saw this 2 models sa guadalupe along edsa (malapit sa overpass).  meron syang 5 analog inputs and 5 na kabitan ng speakers.  pero hindi daw sya pang 5.1 ht.  meron na bang nakabili nito?
hindi ba talaga pede to for ht purpose.

thanks in advance.   

[Compaq]

@hattori_hanzo : Euros 5 or 6 for 5k... hmmm, i'll take note of that. Thanks.

@Cy : Ganun ba... actually, just gave (the ever reliable) SGTuazon a call, he's also a dealer of behringer gears.

Cheers!!!
Compaq

[eric_draven]

Mga sirs, kaya ba ng sakura av387 kung 2 ang subwoofers? paano magdagdag pa ng isa? paano connection?

[darrel]

magkano ung ganyang model/ meron ba dun konzert 600r?

[JojoD818]

Pwede siguro yan if your DVD player has a built-in DTS decoder so pwede mo hook-up yun 5 analog out ng DVD player sa 5 analog input ng Sakura. Sub na lang kulang nun pang HT na. 

 

[rj]

@ darrel
   1,800.00 & 2,000.00 if i remember it right.

@ jojod818
    oo nga e kaya lang baka kasi prologic lang ang labas, hindi hiwahiwalay yung sounds nya (5.1).
    sana me nakasubok na para sure.

thanks.

[yer2010]

makasali nga mga bro sa talakayan nyo dito!

Tama ngang wag kayong gagamit ng maliliit na HT speakers sa inyong videoke at madaling masisira ang mga iyon kung todo ang sound nyo sa pag gamit.  Pero kung maingat naman ay mas ok ang mga iyon lalo na kung di nyo ia-adjust o'babaguin ang delay ng surrounds sa default ng av amp.  Me am using a Pioneer VSX-D912K for my DVD movies at Sakura AV2200 for my karaoke, Onkyo 10band Equalizer, SONY MIC Mixer, Shure SM58 mic, pero iba pa rin cguro yung Behringer na cnabi ni brod Hanzo at baka sakali eh gumanda ang boses kong parang pinupunit na yero, he heh!!   

cheers!

[allan1836]

Wow, glad to see so much replies here and to think I almost forgot I started this thread. 

Compaq, don't worry for "hijacking" my thread, actually I'm glad you did! Lumawak and discussion.
I'm learning so much from you guys, being a neo in videoke set ups.

To inform you guys, I just completed my humble set up and here it goes :

1) DAM 9000A mic mixing amplifier (by Yamaha) w DSP, 4ch x 80watts rms amp and lot of features. This is a pier surplus.
2) 1 pr. JBL 82T classic speakers (US).
3) 1 pr. Pioneer Videoke speakers with revolving "eye" tweeters (japan).               
4) DVD player (generic)
5) PC monitor
6) Shure SM58 and Samson Q7 mics
7) Car amp and 1pc  12"Car subwoofer (to make it active, he..he..)

I must admit this is not a perfect set up but IMHO it serves my purpose well. I was really surprised by the performance of the DAM9000 amp. It performed beyond my expectations and can compare with separates very well. Its is also miles ahead of the sakura's and konzert amps with a (surprised!)... CHEAPER PRICE!!!

I recently used this on my daughters (there twins ) 7th bday with cheap microphones (haven't bought the shure & samson yet at the time) and a lot of my guest commented on how nice the sound is and they enjoyed singing (till 430am!).

Considering the low budget of my system, Im really satisfied with it. Thanks to all for your inputs. 

[hattori_hanzo]

Wow, glad to see so much replies here and to think I almost forgot I started this thread. 

Compaq, don't worry for "hijacking" my thread, actually I'm glad you did! Lumawak and discussion.
I'm learning so much from you guys, being a neo in videoke set ups.

To inform you guys, I just completed my humble set up and here it goes :

1) DAM 9000A mic mixing amplifier (by Yamaha) w DSP, 4ch x 80watts rms amp and lot of features. This is a pier surplus.
2) 1 pr. JBL 82T classic speakers (US).
3) 1 pr. Pioneer Videoke speakers with revolving "eye" tweeters (japan).               
4) DVD player (generic)
5) PC monitor
6) Shure SM58 and Samson Q7 mics
7) Car amp and 1pc  12"Car subwoofer (to make it active, he..he..)

I must admit this is not a perfect set up but IMHO it serves my purpose well. I was really surprised by the performance of the DAM9000 amp. It performed beyond my expectations and can compare with separates very well. Its is also miles ahead of the sakura's and konzert amps with a (surprised!)... CHEAPER PRICE!!!

I recently used this on my daughters (there twins ) 7th bday with cheap microphones (haven't bought the shure & samson yet at the time) and a lot of my guest commented on how nice the sound is and they enjoyed singing (till 430am!).

Considering the low budget of my system, Im really satisfied with it. Thanks to all for your inputs. 

congrats bro! try using a SM58 hataw na sa perfomance yan...