Topic: Pioneer Receivers

[markcrenz]

2 receivers na sinira ng speakers, i'd be wary to use them again. if those are 3-way speakers pacheck mo each driver (woofer/midrange/tweeter). pag may 1 driver na open circuit and it has a 2nd order crossover, the inductor and capacitor would form a resonant circuit that can destroy an amp. sorry kung medyo techie, nadyan naman si google para ipaliwanag further.  basta it's best to retire those speakers and wires or have them checked more thoroughly before reusing them.

[xeroichi]

2 receivers na sinira ng speakers, i'd be wary to use them again. if those are 3-way speakers pacheck mo each driver (woofer/midrange/tweeter). pag may 1 driver na open circuit and it has a 2nd order crossover, the inductor and capacitor would form a resonant circuit that can destroy an amp. sorry kung medyo techie, nadyan naman si google para ipaliwanag further.  basta it's best to retire those speakers and wires or have them checked more thoroughly before reusing them.

yan nga ang nasa isip ko.. sa kahapon, bago ko ikabit ulit yung speakers.. pinacheck ko muna yung speaker ko sa technician, since hindi ako masyadong marunong sa tester.. dahil 3 way nga ang gamit ko, pina check ko each driver.. yung wires naman, nung isang araw ko pa napa check kung shorted.. hindi naman daw, pero hindi ko na rin ginamit.. pero no choice pa ako sa speakers, wala kasi talaga akong magagamit kaya pina check ko na lang muna each driver pati yung crossover.. ok naman daw..

bago tuluyang masira yung 509 ko, pinakiramdaman ko yung ibabaw nung receiver at mas mainit nga siya kumpara sa normal.. pero ngayon ok na ulit ang operating temparature niya..

kung bumaba ba ang impedance ng speaker, may paraan para maibalik sa 8ohms?

thanks!

[markcrenz]

kung bumaba ba ang impedance ng speaker, may paraan para maibalik sa 8ohms?

thanks!

hindi nagbabago yun unless it has burnt coil, at which open circuit na. 

[xeroichi]

hindi nagbabago yun unless it has burnt coil, at which open circuit na. 

saang coil sir? sa driver o sa crossover niya?
pasensya na po.. sobrang noob lang talaga, pag dating sa ganyan.. thanks!

[warmaster]

i'm planning to get the vsx420 (if i don't see a ganzklar 616 soon). i have a very small room and i'll be using it 40% games, 40% movies (dvd & blu ray) and 20% music. which entry level speakers are best matched with this avr? pwede na ba yung mga affordable 5.1 sets from jamo or konzert?

[nsp]

How small po ang very small?

If 5.1 set ang balak mo, Mordaunt Short Premiere or Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP are quite compact. If you need something even smaller, pwedeng Polk Audio RM705 or JBL SCS145.5. Make sure that you listen to the set, to see if it meets your expectations.

Of course, if you have the budget and space for full-sized speakers and a stronger sub, then by all means go for those.

sir, saang shop meron itong mga na mention mo na speakers.
are you also familiar with the aaudio genesis set? would it blend well with the 520?
as an expert, what would you suggest to a noob like me? budget is 15k give or take a couple of k.
tia

[Nelson de Leon]

sir, saang shop meron itong mga na mention mo na speakers.
are you also familiar with the aaudio genesis set? would it blend well with the 520?
as an expert, what would you suggest to a noob like me? budget is 15k give or take a couple of k.
tia

Makisagot lang ako sir. Busy pa si master Stagea sa pagbibilang ng paldo paldong salapi. 

Mezzo meron sa 5th Ave. Wharfs, JBL, Polk, if your in QC, si AVShop. or kay S&S.

Re Genesis. Bring your AV/R kina Anthony. I'm sure very accomodating siya.

[Stagea]

The Mordaunt Short Premiere speaks can be purchased from 5th Ave. / Avesco (stocks are dwindling for this series). As for the Wharfedale Diamond 9 HCP set, it's Western Appliance who usually has this. Automatic Centre often had the JBL SCS145.5 on sale in the past (I'm not sure if they still do). AVShop can help you with the Polk Audio RM705.

[stalkermania]

Hi. I am planning to buy a pio 820k. I would like to know who already have a speaker setup for this avr. I'm planning to have a wharf diamond 10 series. Hope to have some inputs from you guys.

[pa3ck608]

Hi. I am planning to buy a pio 820k. I would like to know who already have a speaker setup for this avr. I'm planning to have a wharf diamond 10 series. Hope to have some inputs from you guys.

Nice choice of receiver. It was actually my first choice (over the onkyo508) before i decided to stretch a bit and go for the onkyo 608. I beleive its the best in its class because it is feature-packed and is really a bang for the buck for just around 22++k. For me, bagay na bagay yan sa wharf 10.1 because I was able to audition both together. Hindi mahirap hanapan ng speakers especially if you are on a budget. Bilin mo na sir.

[stalkermania]

Nice choice of receiver. It was actually my first choice (over the onkyo508) before i decided to stretch a bit and go for the onkyo 608. I beleive its the best in its class because it is feature-packed and is really a bang for the buck for just around 22++k. For me, bagay na bagay yan sa wharf 10.1 because I was able to audition both together. Hindi mahirap hanapan ng speakers especially if you are on a budget. Bilin mo na sir.

Thanks sir pa3ck608 for your input. Actually, its already a decision. I am just curious on other setup with this receiver. The onk 608 "was" also part of my options but due to budget limitation.... i will go for pio... and sir you are right about its features.. its really impressive ... value for money talaga... Madami kasi akong planong connectivities with this receiver eh, such as ps3, ky vivaus mini, dvd player, ipod touch, ixtreamer, etc. so i have a long way to go... but first of all, i have to purchase first the pio 820k, then the speakers and avr... I will surely buy it by January 2011. The best price given to me is P22.5 k in western. Do you know the price in other stores such as avshop, listening room, sns, etc.?

[yer2010]

Guys I need help here with my Pio VSX-D912K.  I've noticed that when playing music, the sub doesn't sound well or strong enough to make a booming sound unlike when playing DVD movies.  On research from the web, I found out that Pio had factory preset the sub to playing dvd movies only and not on music.  I recently bought Amp4v2 of Mr Pilyo but didn't help either to boost the bass.  It's a waste.

What should I do to boost the bass and keep Mr Pilyo's Ampr4v2?

NOTE:  When playing cds and/or music hijacked from the net, the bass from the front speakers (a pair of 2-way 15" @ 8 ohms) and Center speaker (two 8" woofers series together to run the Speaker @ 16 ohms as well as the surrounds [6" dual voice drivers @ 8 ohms]) are booming enough to wake the neighbors 5 houses away.  But the SUB don't!

Please help!

Many tnx.

[Stagea]

What should I do to boost the bass and keep Mr Pilyo's Ampr4v2?

NOTE:  When playing cds and/or music hijacked from the net, the bass from the front speakers (a pair of 2-way 15" @ 8 ohms) and Center speaker (two 8" woofers series together to run the Speaker @ 16 ohms as well as the surrounds [6" dual voice drivers @ 8 ohms]) are booming enough to wake the neighbors 5 houses away.  But the SUB don't!

Please help!

Many tnx.

Set the speakers to small and select a bass management frequency. That will make the receiver route the low frequencies to your sub.

[jnazareta]

@yer2010

Sir Stagea is right, Set all the speakers to small so it will route all Low frequencies to the subwoofer. Try to play with the crossover on your reciever, start with 80 then pataas. make sure din na ang phase knob ng sub mo is set to 0 then yung crossover knob all the way to the highest para lahat ng frequency na ibabato na reciever mo is ma proproduce nya so walang loss na sound. hope this helps...

[Nelson de Leon]

@yer2010

Sir Stagea is right, Set all the speakers to small so it will route all Low frequencies to the subwoofer. Try to play with the crossover on your reciever, start with 80 then pataas. make sure din na ang phase knob ng sub mo is set to 0 then yung crossover knob all the way to the highest para lahat ng frequency na ibabato na reciever mo is ma proproduce nya so walang loss na sound. hope this helps...

Wala atang phase & xover option ang pilyo amp so expected na yun receiver ang magmanage lahat. Pero that is weird kasi i'm using a pio entry level AV/R pero sa DIY sub ko paired with pilyo amp, i can pump out more than descent lows to rattle my sala seats. There is a possibility, pwede din sa gain ng receiver or sa gain in pilyo amp. Had that problem before sa pilyo amp. I didn't adjust the gain. Factory gain setting ni pilyo is mababa.

[Tonteng]

nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy

[Conan]

nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy

Either read the manual, use Google or read Pinoy DVD forum extensively.

[ninjababez®]

nosebleed ako dito..meron na ako pioneer 520k..whafdale 9.1...tsaka PolkAudio 110..di ko maintindihan  para saan yung frequencies sa receiver.. and settings for the sub... hayyy

cutoff frequency yung mga nasa receiver.
which simply means, the limit you want for your speakers. 
meron din tinatawag na hi pass and and low pass filter.
btw you have to be specific kung may tanong ka.  para naman di ka masagot ng RTFM or google-in mo nalang 

[yer2010]

Many thanks Stagea, I'll do as suggested and let you know the result hereinafter.  Happy New Year!

Set the speakers to small and select a bass management frequency. That will make the receiver route the low frequencies to your sub.

[yer2010]

Wala atang phase & xover option ang pilyo amp so expected na yun receiver ang magmanage lahat. Pero that is weird kasi i'm using a pio entry level AV/R pero sa DIY sub ko paired with pilyo amp, i can pump out more than descent lows to rattle my sala seats. There is a possibility, pwede din sa gain ng receiver or sa gain in pilyo amp. Had that problem before sa pilyo amp. I didn't adjust the gain. Factory gain setting ni pilyo is mababa.

Would you kindly show me how to increase the receiver's gain?  All I can do is to set the sensitivity to 96.5 db for all my speakers but dunno how to go about the gain!

Tnx.

[Nelson de Leon]

Would you kindly show me how to increase the receiver's gain?  All I can do is to set the sensitivity to 96.5 db for all my speakers but dunno how to go about the gain!

Tnx.

I'm not familiar with your pio AV/R. pero it should be under channel level sub option. I'm not also familiar if your AV/R can or has options re speaker sensitivity... Baka the 96db you were referring to is not for speaker sensitivty but for channel level or gain na nga. 

[Tonteng]

I'll just try all the possible settings na lang..kung ano yung magandang tunog..yun na lang siguro 

[yer2010]

I'm not familiar with your pio AV/R. pero it should be under channel level sub option. I'm not also familiar if your AV/R can or has options re speaker sensitivity... Baka the 96db you were referring to is not for speaker sensitivty but for channel level or gain na nga. 

If it's the gain na nga, ala pa rin lakas ang sub kahit ilagay ko sa 100 db, pero let me switch the speakers 1st to small even they're large @ 15 inchers.

Tnx.

[Nelson de Leon]

If it's the gain na nga, ala pa rin lakas ang sub kahit ilagay ko sa 100 db, pero let me switch the speakers 1st to small even they're large @ 15 inchers.

Tnx.

Have you tried checking sa gain ng amp4v2 mo? Yeka, ano ba ang sub mo? What enclosure type?

[yer2010]

Have you tried checking sa gain ng amp4v2 mo? Yeka, ano ba ang sub mo? What enclosure type?

Indeed there was some changes on the sub when I changed the settings of the speakers from Large to Small but my Konzert Thunder Bass 12" woofer used for the sub needs some coil (perhaps) repair 'coz it sounds terrible.  I guess I need to buy a 2 ohms sub to match Mr Pilyo's Amp4v2.  Thereafter, maybe I can hear it well! 

Many thanks guys for the inputs.

[warmaster]

speaking of subs, i have a passive sub at lying around the house. is it possible to hook it up to a pioneer vsx 520 while i svae up for replacement speakers?

[Nelson de Leon]

Passive sub = sub w/o amplification

ot possible sir. You need to amplify the signal from the sub line output of your AV/R.

[warmaster]

Passive sub = sub w/o amplification

ot possible sir. You need to amplify the signal from the sub line output of your AV/R.

so i'm gonna need a seperate amp to power the sub. thanks. i'm just gonna wait till i get some funds to get an active sub. meanwhile, i'm going to take the plunge and get the vsx520 come wednesday. i hope taping finishes early

[warmaster]

after over a month of deliberation and research i took the plunge and bought a pioneer vsx520. was able to set it up in no time at all and that's without reading a thing from the manual. xbox 360, dvd and fm radio good to go. using some old jvc satellite speakers until i decide on what speakers to get.

was able to play a round of black ops and see a bit of fantastic four on dvd. ok pa naman ang tunog kahit 35 watts each lang yung 5 speakers and without a sub. nakaka excite kumuha ng mas powerful speakers!

[pa3ck608]

after over a month of deliberation and research i took the plunge and bought a pioneer vsx520. was able to set it up in no time at all and that's without reading a thing from the manual. xbox 360, dvd and fm radio good to go. using some old jvc satellite speakers until i decide on what speakers to get.

was able to play a round of black ops and see a bit of fantastic four on dvd. ok pa naman ang tunog kahit 35 watts each lang yung 5 speakers and without a sub. nakaka excite kumuha ng mas powerful speakers!

Congrats to your new toy sir. Simula na yan...next for you are speakers..., nmt..,bluray player..,receiver again.., speakers again...hehe