Author Topic: Pioneer Receivers (Read 284761 times)

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #540 on:** Nov 19, 2011 at 06:41 PM »

Quote from: jojo_uy on Nov 14, 2011 at 01:21 AM

mga bossing pede ba mag lagay nang 2 bass ampli sa 520k ? d kaya masira or sumabog

Yes. Maski 10 amps pa.

Preamp/line output signal lang naman ang kinukuha mo sa receiver mo.

Quote from: dandyqb on Nov 19, 2011 at 06:10 PM

mga sirs, normal ba sa pioneer avr na uminit masyado? yung 521 ko kasi nakikinig lang ako ng music, stereo lang (2 speakers) around 55-60 yung volume pero tindi ng init halos di ko maipatong kamay ko sa ibabaw ng ilang seconds di ko kinakaya yung init...

I'm not familiar with the volume control of the 521 but if 60-70 is the max, then it's normal because your kinda overdrivin the receiver's amp na.

You need to lower down the volume a bit. Or palit new receiver na. Btw, what speakers are ytou using for the 521?

dandyqb · « **Reply #541 on:** Nov 19, 2011 at 07:21 PM »

dayton audio b652 sir, siguro nga sir, ngayon ko lang tiningnan 68 pala max vol nito, adjust ko na lang volume ng player ko sa PC para di yung receiver ang tumaas masyado...

Stagea · « **Reply #542 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 12:48 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 19, 2011 at 06:41 PM

Yes. Maski 10 amps pa. Preamp/line output signal lang naman ang kinukuha mo sa receiver mo.

You lose damping as you add more. Pag marami kailangan na ng active electronics to minimize signal degradation and to ease the load sa pre-out.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #543 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 01:35 AM »

Quote from: Stagea on Nov 20, 2011 at 12:48 AM

You lose damping as you add more. Pag marami kailangan na ng active electronics to minimize signal degradation and to ease the load sa pre-out.

Oo nga pala. You're right.

The signal output is also divided. May line driver ba sa home audio?

Stagea · « **Reply #544 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 02:00 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 20, 2011 at 01:35 AM

Oo nga pala. You're right. The signal output is also divided. May line driver ba sa home audio?

Meron din. Bibili ka for your 10 amps?

AppleMan · « **Reply #545 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 02:33 AM »

Pwede kang gumawa ng pre-amp na 1 input and 4 output kahit 4 na amplifier ikabit mo equal ang ouput nya di magkakaroon ng problema sa quality ng output meron na kit sa alexan.

lncc63 · « **Reply #546 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 07:22 AM »

You could use the things offered here: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html. A setup using these would be someone more expensive but it would be ideal since the distribution lines would be balanced.

Try contacting Bro markcrenz in his thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,135325.0.html if you need it assembled. He could also probably put offer you an alternative design.

Stagea · « **Reply #547 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 08:11 AM »

Quote from: lncc63 on Nov 20, 2011 at 07:22 AM

You could use the things offered here: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130308.0.html. A setup using these would be someone more expensive but it would be ideal since the distribution lines would be balanced.

Unfortunately, most HT subs out there don't support balanced inputs (largely because most AVRs don't have them). Converting the output back to unbalanced before the sub defeats the main purpose of going balanced.

lncc63 · « **Reply #548 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 08:31 AM »

Oh I meant he'd have a driver at his source then receivers at each sub. The receivers would convert the signal back to single ended. If he's adventurous then he could even mount the receivers and their power supplies inside the each sub's cabinet.

Stagea · « **Reply #549 on:** Nov 20, 2011 at 11:00 PM »

Quote from: lncc63 on Nov 20, 2011 at 08:31 AM

Oh I meant he'd have a driver at his source then receivers at each sub. The receivers would convert the signal back to single ended. If he's adventurous then he could even mount the receivers and their power supplies inside the each sub's cabinet.

Native balanced circuitry would still be far superior, imho.

chrisbulog · « **Reply #550 on:** Nov 22, 2011 at 09:09 AM »

Quote from: dandyqb on Nov 19, 2011 at 07:21 PM

dayton audio b652 sir, siguro nga sir, ngayon ko lang tiningnan 68 pala max vol nito, adjust ko na lang volume ng player ko sa PC para di yung receiver ang tumaas masyado...

Hi Sir, try to check your channel levels.

Dati po kasi puro + (db) ang settings ko (Front L&R +8db, Center +10db, Surround L&R +13db & SW +15db) kaya ang max volume ng Pioneer 520k ko is up to 60+ lang.

Pero nung nag inquire ako about standard channel levels, and do the TEST TONE (build in ng AVR natin), naging ganito setting ko Sir:

fronts L&R -5 db
center -5 db
surround L&R 0 db
SW - 5 db

Then nagulat ako na di na stress yung mga speakers ko, mainit pa rin naman yung AVR ko lalo na pag 2 channel music pero di po sobrang nakakapaso.

And ang levels ko is abot ng 80+, pero around 60 to 65 lang ako both movies & music e sobrang satisfied na po ako

Try nyo po Sir, this method really helps.

Thanks

dandyqb · « **Reply #551 on:** Nov 22, 2011 at 10:51 AM »

na adjust ko na sir, during calibration kasi binago lahat ng MCACC ung setting halos lahat negative db yung lahat na channel so binago ko na, so far so good ok na...

ehmarzo · « **Reply #552 on:** Nov 24, 2011 at 12:22 PM »

Pioneer VSX-1020 or VSX-921 ?

same price range. which one should i get? pareho may video upscaling, 921 nga lang pwede ipad.

hindi ba standy pass through ang 1020?

thanks

dandyqb · « **Reply #553 on:** Nov 24, 2011 at 12:23 PM »

921 na lang sir mas latest yan

ehmarzo · « **Reply #554 on:** Nov 24, 2011 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: dandyqb on Nov 24, 2011 at 12:23 PM

921 na lang sir mas latest yan

ano advantage ng vsx921 aside from pwede na IPAD?

parang mas maraming features parin kasi ang vsx1020 kaya lang di ako sure. im not a techie guy and a newbie in HT setup.

dandyqb · « **Reply #555 on:** Nov 24, 2011 at 05:44 PM »

quote ko lang sabi ni sir stagea

Quote

Aside from the usual feature variations, the 2011 models are supposed to have more robust power supplies. This should make them more capable of handling high current demands. I'm not sure how they did it without significantly increasing the weight, however.

yang 921, 2011 model yan...

83nj0 · « **Reply #556 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 09:38 AM »

hello fellow pdvd member

Iam new to this hobby and im planning to get my first av receivers. Target ko is the pioneer 521 since ito ang pasok sa budget ko. Is this a good receiver? or better mghanap na lng ako ng 2nd hand receiver with the same price? Will be using it for movie=60% and music=40%.

BTW my current set of speakers are pioneer speaker for the center and surround plus the bookshelf aiwa speaker from our old component . Tsaka na ako mghahanap ng magandang speaker,ipon mode muna ako.

cray · « **Reply #557 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM »

ask ko lang po kung magkano yung pioneer elite receiver yung pinaka cheapest sa elite line up nila. wala kasing akong nakikita sa marketplace na nag sell ng elite receiver

lncc63 · « **Reply #558 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM »

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,140324.0.html

cray · « **Reply #559 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 10:50 AM »

thanks sir po sir lncc63 merun po ba pricelist nung mga brand new po..

dandyqb · « **Reply #560 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 11:34 AM »

Quote

hello fellow pdvd member

Iam new to this hobby and im planning to get my first av receivers. Target ko is the pioneer 521 since ito ang pasok sa budget ko. Is this a good receiver? or better mghanap na lng ako ng 2nd hand receiver with the same price? Will be using it for movie=60% and music=40%.

BTW my current set of speakers are pioneer speaker for the center and surround plus the bookshelf aiwa speaker from our old component . Tsaka na ako mghahanap ng magandang speaker,ipon mode muna ako.

ito receiver ko ngayon, its a very good AVR para sakin, why? 3D ready na, 5.1 but can be upgraded to 7.1 (pre-out), can decode dts-hd ma and dd-trueHD...

lncc63 · « **Reply #561 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 01:17 PM »

Sorry no pricelist. Try the Marketplace or the Stores topics.

jacboss13 · « **Reply #562 on:** Nov 27, 2011 at 02:48 PM »

Mga sir question lang po mga magkano po ang 1121 dito thanks...

And one more question ano ang lamang ng 1021 sa 921? Parang hdmi input Lang ang nakikita ko na dif eh

ehmarzo · « **Reply #563 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 12:40 PM »

does the video up scaling capabilities of the 1020/1021 justifies the extra cost? or am i good with the 521?

all i want is good sound for both ht and music with easy calibration.

thanks guys.

catblue · « **Reply #564 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 04:03 PM »

May nakita ako Pioneer sa Youtube... Share ko lang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oznuiz689kQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1RY6zY4zm8

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #565 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 04:57 PM »

Quote from: ehmarzo on Dec 01, 2011 at 12:40 PM

does the video up scaling capabilities of the 1020/1021 justifies the extra cost? or am i good with the 521?

all i want is good sound for both ht and music with easy calibration.

thanks guys.

I think yes. I've tried it with dvd 480p copies.

dandyqb · « **Reply #566 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04 PM »

im wondering what speakers really synergize well with pioneer AVRs, specially the 521

ehmarzo · « **Reply #567 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 06:56 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Dec 01, 2011 at 04:57 PM

I think yes. I've tried it with dvd 480p copies.

thanks Sir Nelson. i think i will push through with 1021. $399 lang sya sa amazon ngayon. P40k plus parin sya dito.

jaime4i · « **Reply #568 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 08:00 AM »

Hello! im planning to buy a Pioneer AVR before the year end. i would like to ask if this is a good buy. 110V from the US. Currently negotiating the seller for the best price. No problem with the customs here in davao central office, suki na ako

. here is the items.

http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Pioneer-VSX-1021-K-7-1CH-Receiver-AirPlay-5-HDMi-Dolby-TrueHD-DTS-HD-3D-NEW-/390369198660?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item5ae3d14244
Price: US $389.95
Shipping:US $165.75 USPS Priority Mail International

Pioneer Elite Receiver VSX-30
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390369198660&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Price: US $269.99
Shipping: US $165 USPS Priority Mail International

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #569 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 08:53 AM »

Quote from: jaime4i on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:00 AM

Hello! im planning to buy a Pioneer AVR before the year end. i would like to ask if this is a good buy. 110V from the US. Currently negotiating the seller for the best price. No problem with the customs here in davao central office, suki na ako . here is the items.

http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Pioneer-VSX-1021-K-7-1CH-Receiver-AirPlay-5-HDMi-Dolby-TrueHD-DTS-HD-3D-NEW-/390369198660?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item5ae3d14244
Price: US $389.95
Shipping:US $165.75 USPS Priority Mail International

Pioneer Elite Receiver VSX-30
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390369198660&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Price: US $269.99
Shipping: US $165 USPS Priority Mail International

Go for the elite if your lookin for power. 1020 user ko, and so far, i'm very satisfied with it's performance with my 4 ohms speaker, currently set at large.