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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #870 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 07:19 AM »
Salamat po sa input! yung sales kasi sa pioneer di daw adivsable gamitan ng magic sing and the likes kasi daw yung feedback na na-create nakakasira ng speakers. sakto naman wala pa ako nababasang gumamit ng magic sing so naisip ko baka nga nakakasira.

anyhow, salamat po ulit... wala naman pala problema.

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Masakit sa tenga ang feedback. Depende sa volume kung makakasira. Di advisable because you have cheaper options naman. Pero i don't mind naman.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #871 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 11:56 AM »
Ano po ba normal operating temperature ng mga AV Receivers mga master? Specifically sa Pioneer VSX-1021-K... Wala po kasi aircon dito. Tapos 12PM - 2PM, so ang init2x... LOL.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #872 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM »
Ano po ba normal operating temperature ng mga AV Receivers mga master? Specifically sa Pioneer VSX-1021-K... Wala po kasi aircon dito. Tapos 12PM - 2PM, so ang init2x... LOL.

Sabi ni Master Nelson eh okay lang daw ang walang A/C. Safe yan ng continuous use maski 35 deg C. ambient temperature and 85% relative humidity.

Pero pag nakita mo ang chiller ni Master Nelson, mahihiya ang MOA at Megamall.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #873 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 01:54 PM »
I see... Normal pa lang to. Hehehe. Lagyan ko na lang ng electric fan sa susunod. Haha.

Mayron na naman akong problem mga boss. Ngayon pa lang ako naka try nito.

Na set ko na yung Bluray player ko from PCM to Bitstream (Audiophile). Dolby and DTS files sound okay. Pero pag play ko ng Transformers at Eagles concert (both in DTS format), choppy po ang sound. Pero pag play ko sa computer, okay lang.

Help me po... Thanks!

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #874 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 07:51 PM »
Im currently using VSX-521K as my receiver and Im planning to upgrade, ok ba na may upgrade ako to 821K or 1021K or higher na model na? wala ba gaanong significance pagdating sa audio/video quality ang 521 vs 821? thanks

If you can stretch your budget a bit more, get the vsx1121. Although it's not great for music(reference is integrated amps) , it's very good in movies and video processing is amazing. I have it for 2 months and i am enjoying it.

BTW, VSX-1121 is identical to the Elite 52 except that the price is lower by $250. ;D ;D

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #875 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 08:36 PM »
If you can stretch your budget a bit more, get the vsx1121. Although it's not great for music(reference is integrated amps) , it's very good in movies and video processing is amazing. I have it for 2 months and i am enjoying it.

BTW, VSX-1121 is identical to the Elite 52 except that the price is lower by $250. ;D ;D

the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #876 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 08:44 PM »
the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???

mas mura ung mga 2012 models
check mo din ung 1021 mas mahal sa 1022
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #877 on: Jul 10, 2012 at 09:05 PM »
the pio vsx 1122 is out why is it cheaper than the 1121 on amazon? the 1121 is 669.99 while the 1122 is just 579  ???

They're not the same, look at the specs of 1122 downgraded na naman this year at parang 1021 lang yong specs ng 1122.  ;D
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #878 on: Jul 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM »
They're not the same, look at the specs of 1122 downgraded na naman this year at parang 1021 lang yong specs ng 1122.  ;D
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #879 on: Jul 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM »
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...

Parang sa food business lang yan, lumiliit yung serving. People vote with their wallets eh, lalo na ngayon at tough economic times.

Kung puro high end ang binibili ng mga tao, I'm sure pataas ng pataas ang spec at price ng mga binebenta ng makers.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #880 on: Jul 11, 2012 at 05:50 PM »
dati nga yung 8xx 7.1, yung more recent models 5.1 na lang. hayz...

Dapat bro. wais mga buyer na dapat tinitignan yong specs bago bilhin.

Based on the pics below kitang-kita yong difference ng 1121 vs. 1122.

Pioneer VSX-1121 110watts 31 lbs.



Pioneer SC-1222 Class D amps 120 watts 31 lbs. Current model



Pioneer Elite 52 110 watts 31 lbs (same specs as the 1121, same everything except for Elite badge & $250 price difference)



Pioneer VSX-1122 90 watts 22 lbs.



Pioneer VSX-1021 90 watts 22 lbs.


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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #881 on: Jul 11, 2012 at 06:43 PM »
Dapat bro. wais mga buyer na dapat tinitignan yong specs bago bilhin.

Based on the pics below kitang-kita yong difference ng 1121 vs. 1122.

Pioneer VSX-1121 110watts 31 lbs.



Pioneer SC-1222 Class D amps 120 watts 31 lbs. Current model



Pioneer Elite 52 110 watts 31 lbs (same specs as the 1121, same everything except for Elite badge & $250 price difference)



Pioneer VSX-1122 90 watts 22 lbs.



Pioneer VSX-1021 90 watts 22 lbs.




good to know. so para sa mga may planong mag upgrade check the specs pala ang rule of thumb instead of just following the model line.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #882 on: Jul 11, 2012 at 10:07 PM »
In short, SC-1222 or SC-1522 daw dapat ang bilhin ng may mga budget for 2012.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #883 on: Jul 15, 2012 at 03:59 PM »
match kaya yun 520k ko sa speaker ni anthony audio ?

« Last Edit: Jul 16, 2012 at 05:36 PM by jojo_uy »

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #884 on: Jul 25, 2012 at 04:14 PM »
Eto po yung video ng problem ko...

Choppy sound from an MKV source (DTS 5.1)
http://youtu.be/a1g4Wk-1pNA

Settings ng Bluray Player (Samsung BD-D5100)

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #885 on: Aug 04, 2012 at 01:42 PM »
maganda ba yung lx53 na binebenta sa listening in style? is it a match for the marantz 6005 in terms of preformance? its such a good deal din kasi
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #886 on: Aug 04, 2012 at 01:47 PM »
match kaya yun 520k ko sa speaker ni anthony audio ?



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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #887 on: Aug 05, 2012 at 06:35 AM »
My Yamaha RX-V420 is due for replacement. Is the Pioneer VSX-522K already available here in the Philippines? I tried asking shops in malls but not available yet.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #888 on: Aug 05, 2012 at 12:32 PM »
My Yamaha RX-V420 is due for replacement. Is the Pioneer VSX-522K already available here in the Philippines? I tried asking shops in malls but not available yet.

i'm sure malapit na yan kaya bagsak presyo na yung last generation of pioneer amps. maybe they're just "hoarding" up a bit longer to see if they can dispose of the '21 series as much as they can

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #889 on: Aug 05, 2012 at 10:33 PM »
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #890 on: Aug 05, 2012 at 10:42 PM »
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

it's amazing how a little time on google can dig up so much

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-VSX-LX53/

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX53/index.html


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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #891 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 09:32 AM »
it's amazing how a little time on google can dig up so much

http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Pioneer-VSX-LX53/

http://www.pioneer.eu/uk/products/archive/VSX-LX53/index.html


nice canned response.
Its amazing how your reading comprehension has failed.
If your going to troll this isn't the place to do it there are sited dedicated for that.
like 4chan and spares us from your stupidity and go there.
I expected a more mature response than some of the posters here.

Non of your links show what mcacc does or how it preforms.

I'm looking for someone who has experience mcacc perform first hand. how good is it vs Audessey.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #892 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 09:47 AM »
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

I have a Pioneer 1021 and the MCACC feature does it's job decently. The distance between the speakers and calibration mic was virtually correct. But I did a manual calibration based on my preference. I haven't tried other receivers' calibration features. Btw, I'm just using fronts and center speakers.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #893 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 10:02 AM »
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

then don't buy it if your hesitant. Reading reviews will not always the answer.

no spoonfeed here in PDVD , take time to read it by yourself and then decide

warmaster is not a troll here. I'm not his friend as here as well but i believe he has some good points. Using google as your friend. Take your time using it. I did not even bother reading the link he provided you.

MCACC will be fair good since your in the PIONEER thread.

Just buy receiver that is not/none hesistant to buy
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #894 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 10:03 AM »
nice canned response.
Its amazing how your reading comprehension has failed.
If your going to troll this isn't the place to do it there are sited dedicated for that.
like 4chan and spares us from your stupidity and go there.
I expected a more mature response than some of the posters here.

Non of your links show what mcacc does or how it preforms.

I'm looking for someone who has experience mcacc perform first hand. how good is it vs Audessey.

i'm no troll but if you managed to read between the lines, whathifi should have pointed out that the inadequacy of MCACC to EQ the sub as a as "Against". but since there was no mention of it, should mean that it wasn't an issue

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #895 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 10:06 AM »
I'm hesitant to buy the pioneer LX53 because of MCACC does not EQ sub. i need more info about it.
 Hows the performance of MCACC?

The advanced phase control and 3 parametric notch filters on top of the typical graphic EQ offers quite some control over room and placement issues. The fact that you can manually override each setting makes it very customizable (even without a pro kit).

It does lack in the subwoofer equalization department because it uses 1 octave spacing for its acoustic calibration. The lowest GEQ band falls at 63Hz, which isn't low enough for many room/sub issues. What makes up for this is the notch filters that it can apply on the 3 most dominant standing waves (and this can handle peaks between 16Hz and 1kHz). That essentially controls the most prevalent room issues.

This solution won't deliver a response as clean as Audyssey MultEQ XT or XT32, but it's probably superior to MultEQ overall.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #896 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 07:37 PM »
okay i apologies, i over reacted a bit. i kinda like the lx53 might pull the trigger soon. i have to test other reciever muna.

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« Reply #897 on: Aug 06, 2012 at 07:49 PM »
okay i apologies, i over reacted a bit. i kinda like the lx53 might pull the trigger soon. i have to test other reciever muna.

I have heard the LX53 connected to Polk Audio RTi A7 and CSi A6, we used that to test my Klipsch Subs and it sounded awesome playing Battle Los Angels.. Also used that in playing Concert materials and ang ganda nang performance nya...
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #898 on: Aug 07, 2012 at 04:52 PM »
I bought the vsx lx-53 finally. This is my first high end receiver.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #899 on: Aug 07, 2012 at 08:19 PM »
I bought the vsx lx-53 finally. This is my first high end receiver.

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
congrats. I believe you can have 6 memory preset for your MCACC calibration.
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