Topic: Pioneer Receivers

[Nelson de Leon]

That is actually what I want to do next but I want to make sure na tama ang gagawin ko kaya nanghingi ako ng inyong inputs mga gurus. Will it be safe if I set level across all the speakers to +2dB or higher?

It's safe naman pero isn't it like simply increasing the volume knob +2db or higher din?

[john9.1]

Maraming magandang sub sir, depende rin siguro kung music lover ka or movie buff.  I'm also a pio user na addict sa movies, ngayon lang ako nahihilig sa music and I got the diamond 10mx.  Its only now that I realize that the wharfs arent that great for music but wonderful for HT.

Totoo yan sir, kaya mahirap mag decide kung alin ang kukunin lalo na pag-tight ang budget.

I'm looking for a sub sana which can serve us well on both music (for me) and movies (for my wife and daughter). I am considering DSW pro 660. I read a few good reviews and i am quite decided to get this. unfortunately hindi available ngayon dito kaya tiis muna na walang sub.  

[john9.1]

It's safe naman pero isn't it like simply increasing the volume knob +2db or higher din?

Tama sir but what I want is to hear the clarity of the sound in low volume level.

[Nelson de Leon]

Tama sir but what I want is to hear the clarity of the sound in low volume level.

Check mo kung may dynamic volume or dynamic range control ang avr mo. it's boosts the weak freqs during low volume playback so you can maximize the dynamic range ng audio. Alam ko meron yan.

[Xanxan]

1020 and the 1021 more or less the same amp, i doubt you will hear any difference.
raiders right you more or less get airplay with the 1021, let me add usb plays more formats and some firmware updates. edit i think you also get passthrough  with the 1021, oh power supply on thw 1021 is much high around 500 vs the 1020 which has around 250.

I do find the idea of airplay fun but you can get the same thing if you just buy an apple TV with additional expenses.

both are good choice. if you have an ipad then maybe the 1021 is better. if not then you can save few pesos and get the 1020

ah oki sir 920 kasi gamit ko dati at narinig ko na yung 1020 wala sila pinag kaiba sa sound. Sa mga connections lang siguro nagkaiba  ganun din siguro 1021 mga feautres lang ang nadagdag,  thanks sir

[Xanxan]

Uyyy mukang may balak ka sir ah..

wala pa sir nag tititngin tingin lang muna ko hehe

[Xanxan]

havent heard 1020 so i cannot comment hehe....

airplay and ipad/ipod ung additional feat.

1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play?

[Tavus]

1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play?

oo masaya yung airplay. basta naka wifi router ka pwede ka mag stream ng music direct from ipad or iphone.
very convenient.
sayang lang airplay yung lx53 ko.

[raider125jeigh]

1021 nga pala gamit mo dati sir hehe ok ba yung air play?

yup i used it most of the time

make sure na ilimit mo to 10db ung max volume
once while using itunes nagadjust ako ng volume dun lumakas lahat haha...kala ko sira ung speaker ko e...hahahaha...

gabi pa naman!

[Xanxan]

oo masaya yung airplay. basta naka wifi router ka pwede ka mag stream ng music direct from ipad or iphone.
very convenient.
sayang lang airplay yung lx53 ko.

hehe mukhang ok nga yun ah..ok din naman kahit naka usb. di nga lang talaga tulad pag naka air play di na kelangang isuksuk sa usb input nya hmm..

[Xanxan]

yup i used it most of the time

make sure na ilimit mo to 10db ung max volume
once while using itunes nagadjust ako ng volume dun lumakas lahat haha...kala ko sira ung speaker ko e...hahahaha...

gabi pa naman!

ganun ba sir masaya nga talaga ang airplay hehehe malakas na din yung 10db

[john9.1]

Check mo kung may dynamic volume or dynamic range control ang avr mo. it's boosts the weak freqs during low volume playback so you can maximize the dynamic range ng audio. Alam ko meron yan.

I've turned on the DRC and set it to max, tweaked the channel level. Now seating in my sweet spot at 36dB I can say that SQ has dramatically improved. I am very much satisfied how my system works now with music. Salamat po sa mga inputs!

[Tavus]

@john9.1
You looking for  sub right? I recommend a big sub to go with that pioneer receiver  like svs. Ask mike c.  he deals with those subs and he's usually on the forums.

[john9.1]

@john9.1
You looking for  sub right? I recommend a big sub to go with that pioneer receiver  like svs. Ask mike c.  he deals with those subs and he's usually on the forums.

SVS is actually my first choice. I am in contact now with sir Mike. Thanks to you sir!

[Tavus]

i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?

[Nelson de Leon]

i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?

This happens to me when my monitor is turned off. The PC sometimes do not recognize the receiver kung walang monitor. 2 kasi ang monitor ko. 1 ordinary pc monitor via vga, and another one for movies via hdmi.

[Courage]

i've encountered this annoying thing with my pioneer lx53 and my htpc.  Each time i turn on my htpc and receiver there is no sound. The pc does not recognize the receiver. I have to reset my pc just for it to recognize my receiver. this has never happened before with my harman kardon. my pc is running on an ati 4850 video card.
can anyone clarify if this is natural?

Sir anong nauuna mong buksan? HTPC then receiver? Or Receiver Then HTPC? Or sabay mo silang on?

[Nelson de Leon]

Sir anong nauuna mong buksan? HTPC then receiver? Or Receiver Then HTPC? Or sabay mo silang on?

Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.

[Courage]

Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.

Yup dapat nga ganito ang sequence...

Nangyayari to sa laptop ko minsan pag direct ko connect sa LCD TV ko.. minsan walang sound..  on ko muna yung mga pagkakabitan then last na yung PC para ma detect nya...

[markcrenz]

Monitor and receiver. last ang PC.

dapat matino pc psu mo. otherwise the input stage of your receiver and/or monitor might be damaged by transients during power-up.

[Tavus]

receiver >htpc>projector
mali ba?

[ninjababez®]

receiver >htpc>projector
mali ba?

PJ > receiver > HTPC

[Timithekid]

out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?

[Stagea]

PJ > receiver > HTPC

out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?

Though originally designed to be hot-swappable (presence of a hot plug detect channel), the actual implementations of this feature vary greatly. Following the said startup sequence minimizes issues, as the devices get to initialize with a detectable target device.

[markcrenz]

out of curiosity, why is there a need for the boot up process to be sequential?

the card shuts off the signals if it doesn't sense a receiver during power up. parang delivery service, assuming ikaw si receiver at si delivery guy ang VC. si delivery guy maghahatid yan ng package mo, pag nandun ka para mag-receive, ok na. pero pag wala ka sa house (receiver off) si delivery guy 'di babalik hanggang di mo tatawagan ulit (reboot).

[markcrenz]

Though originally designed to be hot-swappable (presence of a hot plug detect channel), the actual implementations of this feature vary greatly. Following the said startup sequence minimizes issues, as the devices get to initialize with a detectable target device.

bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections

[joko11]

bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections

hindi naman sir mark. or hardware/software dependent din

[Timithekid]

the card shuts off the signals if it doesn't sense a receiver during power up. parang delivery service, assuming ikaw si receiver at si delivery guy ang VC. si delivery guy maghahatid yan ng package mo, pag nandun ka para mag-receive, ok na. pero pag wala ka sa house (receiver off) si delivery guy 'di babalik hanggang di mo tatawagan ulit (reboot).

So there is no way for us to manually detect the receiver after boot up?  meaning, walang refresh?  Pasensya na mga sir ah, I do not own an HTPC, all I am trying to do is learn the logic why.  I am trying to liken this to replacing monitors while a PC is running, its plug and play so no matter how many times I change the monitor (a,b or c) it will power up and will be detected because the port will refresh.  But in an HTPC, it does not work that way, instead when a receiver is not connected, the hardware/shoftwre to detect is is shut off and cannot be powered back up by the user through a refresh, a reboot/restart is necessary, tama po ba mga sir?  Thank you for helping me understand.

[Tavus]

may video naman pero lang audio.

[Nelson de Leon]

bihira yata hot swappable hdmi connections

Actually, mine is.  Kaya lang, i follow the sequence to minimize issues.

So there is no way for us to manually detect the receiver after boot up?  meaning, walang refresh?  Pasensya na mga sir ah, I do not own an HTPC, all I am trying to do is learn the logic why.  I am trying to liken this to replacing monitors while a PC is running, its plug and play so no matter how many times I change the monitor (a,b or c) it will power up and will be detected because the port will refresh.  But in an HTPC, it does not work that way, instead when a receiver is not connected, the hardware/shoftwre to detect is is shut off and cannot be powered back up by the user through a refresh, a reboot/restart is necessary, tama po ba mga sir?  Thank you for helping me understand.

Sa monitor, madali lang kasi direct sa monitor ang plug in. Sa reciver kasi, both audio and video are involved. So for the pc to detect the video, dapat naka-connect and running din ang monitor that passes thru the receiver. Sa case ko naman, maski naka-on ang receiver, pero shut down ang monitor, walang audio. So parang the pc recognizes the receiver initially as a video output. 2ndary lang as audio output. Pero complicated din kasi ang case ko because i have 2 monitors. One is directly connected sa pc via vga. Wala akong problem dun. The other one is connected sa receiver via hdmi. Plus, dalawa ang audio output ko. one is via usb port, and the other one via hdmi (with video).