Author Topic: Pioneer Receivers (Read 283131 times)

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #990 on:** Oct 06, 2012 at 06:39 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Oct 06, 2012 at 04:43 AM

aga ko natulog .....naghahanap ng pio receiver haha....jk

Maganda yun ice powered or direct energy module ng mga Elite. Bagay sa iyo.

Timithekid · « **Reply #991 on:** Oct 06, 2012 at 06:42 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:39 AM

Maganda yun ice powered or direct energy module ng mga Elite. Bagay sa iyo.

eh ang ganda rin ng presyo Master! mauuwi sa ice tubig ang ipapakain ko sa pamilya ko. lol

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #992 on:** Oct 06, 2012 at 06:47 AM »

Quote from: Timithekid on Oct 06, 2012 at 06:42 AM

eh ang ganda rin ng presyo Master! mauuwi sa ice tubig ang ipapakain ko sa pamilya ko. lol

Peanuts lang yan kay Derick!

Frankthetank · « **Reply #993 on:** Oct 06, 2012 at 11:17 AM »

Hi gurus...

I have vsx 521, there are times na gusto ko off ang avr pag cartoons lang ang pinapanood. And so I did the HDMI pass through.

Kaso pag pinapatay ko or standby ang avr, nawawalan ng signal.

Ganon ba talaga? or may work around?

Tavus · « **Reply #994 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 09:50 AM »

Quote from: Frankthetank on Oct 06, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Hi gurus...

I have vsx 521, there are times na gusto ko off ang avr pag cartoons lang ang pinapanood. And so I did the HDMI pass through.

Kaso pag pinapatay ko or standby ang avr, nawawalan ng signal.

Ganon ba talaga? or may work around?

~~baka walang standby passthrough yung vsx 521~~. the vsx 521 does have standby pass through.
Naka activate ba yung hdmi CEC ng receiver? check that.

Oloap · « **Reply #995 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 12:03 PM »

Question:

Is the lower Elite models better than the VSX higher models?

The price of pioneer avrs is tempting.

Frankthetank · « **Reply #996 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 01:23 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 09:50 AM

~~baka walang standby passthrough yung vsx 521~~. the vsx 521 does have standby pass through.
Naka activate ba yung hdmi CEC ng receiver? check that.

Thanks sir.

Been reading the manual and di ko makita kung saan yung CEC.

Saan po ko siya makikita?

Forgot to mention that im using an htpc

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #997 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 03:30 PM »

Quote from: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 01:23 PM

Thanks sir.

Been reading the manual and di ko makita kung saan yung CEC.

Saan po ko siya makikita?

Forgot to mention that im using an htpc

Baka hindi nadedetect ng PC mo yun AVR kasi naka-off.

Tavus · « **Reply #998 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 04:06 PM »

Its listed as hdmi control or kuro link,(for older units). You have to connect the composite cable to access the vsx 521 menu. From there you have to find the hdmi settings menu it should be there.
Minsan nagkakaproblema din if one of your devices does not have cec.

Tavus · « **Reply #999 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 04:16 PM »

Quote from: Oloap on Oct 09, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Question:

Is the lower Elite models better than the VSX higher models?

The price of pioneer avrs is tempting.

lower elite models and vsx 1122 are almost the same. they just have longer warranties, a few extra hdm's and more legacy inputs.
vsx 60:
Power Output: Watts per Channel 90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz)
vsx 1122:
Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) 90

It gets better when you buy SC models cause they use the better d3 amps. d3 amps run cooler than the regular ones.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1000 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 05:33 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 04:16 PM

lower elite models and vsx 1122 are almost the same. they just have longer warranties, a few extra hdm's and more legacy inputs.
vsx 60:
Power Output: Watts per Channel 90 x 7 (20 Hz - 20 kHz)
vsx 1122:
Power Output Per Channel(20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm) 90

It gets better when you buy SC models cause they use the better d3 amps. d3 amps run cooler than the regular ones.

Yeah. Direct energy class D. Some old model came with ICEpower.

edited: late to old.

Frankthetank · « **Reply #1001 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 05:34 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 09, 2012 at 04:06 PM

Its listed as hdmi control or kuro link,(for older units). You have to connect the composite cable to access the vsx 521 menu. From there you have to find the hdmi settings menu it should be there.
Minsan nagkakaproblema din if one of your devices does not have cec.

Been there sir, nakita ko lang options are HDMI control saka yung ARC.

May posibility siguro na tama sinabi ni Nelson. Havent tried on BD yet since wala pa ako player.

Siguro best option is an HDMI switcher?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1002 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 06:09 PM »

Quote from: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 05:34 PM

Siguro best option is an HDMI switcher?

Isang HDMI switcher for your choice of source (receiver or HTPC), and an HDMI splitter, to split the signal from your HTPC to receiver and HDMI switcher to monitor.

Frankthetank · « **Reply #1003 on:** Oct 09, 2012 at 07:01 PM »

di ba nababawasan ang picture/sound quality pag ginamitan ng splitter/switcher?

Tavus · « **Reply #1004 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Oct 09, 2012 at 05:33 PM

Yeah. Direct energy class D. Some late model came with ICEpower.

The new pioneer amps use own amp design. hometheater say the newer d3 amps are better then the older ice ones.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1005 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 07:24 AM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

The new pioneer amps use own amp design. hometheater say the newer d3 amps are better then the older ice ones.

My bad. I mean yun old model ang naka ICE. Kaya lang tumaas ata ang price ng mga Elite.

rochie · « **Reply #1006 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM »

Quote from: Frankthetank on Oct 09, 2012 at 07:01 PM

di ba nababawasan ang picture/sound quality pag ginamitan ng splitter/switcher?

i tried HDMI splitter for my sony bd player and noticeable PQ difference pag dumaan sa receiver at hindi, if the video signal pass through the receiver less noise and contrast is good pero pag gumamit ako ng splitter, the video from bd player direct to tv is somewhat lacks a little bit of contrast and a bit noisy, even if the audio is DTS-MA the receiver only detect it as DTS. btw im using the monoprice HDMI splitter w/ external power.

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #1007 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM »

Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks

Tavus · « **Reply #1008 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 05:22 PM »

Quote from: Louie_18 on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks

same model, 220v and 110v different region. its confusing and pioneer has been doing this for very long time.

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #1009 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 05:28 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 10, 2012 at 05:22 PM

same model, 220v and 110v different region. its confusing and pioneer has been doing this for very long time.

I see. Thanks bro

Tavus · « **Reply #1010 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 06:24 PM »

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #1011 on:** Oct 10, 2012 at 06:59 PM »

Quote from: Louie_18 on Oct 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Guys,

Anong difference ng Pioneer SC-LX86 and Pioneer Elite SC-68?
Same lang ba sila but different region(market)?

Thanks

huli ka ...nangingibang bahay ka ah hehehe...

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #1012 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Oct 10, 2012 at 06:59 PM

huli ka ...nangingibang bahay ka ah hehehe...

Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1013 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM »

Quote from: Louie_18 on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali

Get the model with the direct energy amp. Hindi ata lahat ng elite naka direct energy eh.

mc03_12 · « **Reply #1014 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM »

mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?

Tavus · « **Reply #1015 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 11:56 AM »

Quote from: Louie_18 on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Nagtatanong lang sis. May umaawit kasi sa Denon ko sa magandang presyo eh... Mukhang maganda itong Pioneer Elite na kapalit kung sakali

in my opinion, you should have kept the denon 4311. its the most recommended flag ship receiver in AVS forums due to the useful room correction Audyssey 32xt. The 4311 is really king of the receiver I doubt the lx 86 will be significantly better than the 4311. Not really sure what you get from switching from pioneer well except for the usb DAC and 4k.
The big improvement go separates na lang like cary cinema 12, anthem d2v and marantz pre pro if they still here. medyo mahal lang.

Tavus · « **Reply #1016 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 12:03 PM »

Quote from: mc03_12 on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?

okay lang yung 921 for a basic setup.
Spend a little more to get the denon 1912

Timithekid · « **Reply #1017 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM »

Quote from: mc03_12 on Oct 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

mga sir. makikisingit lang.

maganda ba ang performance ng vsx-921?

Yes, its good enough. But if you have powerful Fs's baka mabitin ka sa 75wpc @ 2 channels driven.

mc03_12 · « **Reply #1018 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 01:19 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Oct 11, 2012 at 12:03 PM

okay lang yung 921 for a basic setup.
Spend a little more to get the denon 1912

sir simple lang nmn ang set up ko eh. nag aatay na ksi ng receiver ung speaker ko. jamo 406.

Tavus · « **Reply #1019 on:** Oct 11, 2012 at 01:36 PM »

When it comes to entry level models, the differences aren't that big. just check the features of the receiver you need, it shouldn't be a problem.
you'll be fine with the 921