Topic: Pioneer Receivers

[Courage]

no lx55, lis staff said the pioneer went strait to lx 56.
of the 3 you mentioned vsx 1121 would be my choice or the previously mentioned lx 53.

i do recall 5th avenue selling a Yamaha RX-V1067  for around 45k.

I'll choose the LX 53 or Yamaha RX-1067 if its me..

[Timithekid]

meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model

Ok, sorry if i was not direct enough, pre out for a center, front left, front right, surround back left and surround back right. Kung meron 2 more preouts thats wven better.

[Tavus]

meron sir. preout for SW. does that count?
http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v673_black_u/?mode=model

you need at least 5.1 (5 speakers .1 subwoofer) for a full set of pre out.
What speaker do you plan to drive with your receiver? If its efficient you might not need pre-outs after all.

[Dollarman]

being my first receiver. speakers will be my next problem lol.

[Timithekid]

being my first receiver. speakers will be my next problem lol.

Good luck with the journey, audition as much as you can and most of all, enjoy the music and movies that you will use your new toys with.

[Tavus]

better search and divert most of your budget to finding speakers first then receiver later, so we know what load ya need to drive em. I suggest you going to the hifi show on NOV 10-11 at Dusit hotel makati. Most major brands will be there for demo. Bring some of you favorite cd and test music there. if you find the speaker sound the best then buy it.

[Dollarman]

i live in cebu mga sirs, kaya medyo mahirap mag audition ng ibat ibang speakers and receivers. we have here onkyo 515, 616, denon 1912,yamaha v667 pio 922, pio 1021 to choose from...almost bought the 922 buti naubusan ng stock.

[Dollarman]

airplay internet radio,Aureus, phase control plus, hdmi standby/passthrough, anchor bay, firmware upgrade and AVnavigator are missing from the lx53. are these important to have or can i live without it or may solution?

[Tavus]

that will complicate things.
you should figure out  first what speaker you will buy.
I say the denon 1912 would by my pic. denon 1912 is the asia model right?
 Denon's audyssey multi 32xt  is a step up from onkyo's Audyssey 2EQ.

[Tavus]

 
Can you get the models in manila?

it depends if you need these features. Airplay only works with apple products(ipad iphone) and if you don't have one its useless. Lx 53has internet radio but its kinda clunky, no easy search like vtuner. Its firmware has to be updated by a technician. self update will void warranty if something goes wrong.
 But its a sound receiver. It does everything a receiver a receiver needs to be(sound quality and picture).

find a speaker first.

[Dollarman]

as long as it plays music decently, and can dish out the surround tracks from a movie, those will be my priority mga sirs. am i already on the wrong path here?hehe  ive read about how good polk and wharfdales are. so speaker choice might go there.

[Timithekid]

as long as it plays music decently, and can dish out the surround tracks from a movie, those will be my priority mga sirs. am i already on the wrong path here?hehe  ive read about how good polk and wharfdales are. so speaker choice might go there.

What brand of speakers do you have access to? Marami tayong brothers there in cebu that have excellent systems.

[Tavus]

okay were getting somewhere. polk and wharfdales aren't that hard to drive but Polk is slightly more efficient. everything suggested earlier can drive these speakers. go listen to them in person. you might find other brands din on your search.
 how will you get the lx53? are there any dealers in cebu?

[Dollarman]

soundroom and circuit city here can source it for me. just need a brand/model to give them.

[Dollarman]

What brand of speakers do you have access to? Marami tayong brothers there in cebu that have excellent systems.

sir, speakers are more common here than receivers though more expensive. so my plan is getting both receivers and speakers there...

[Timithekid]

But have you auditioned some at least? Ver subjective kasi ang tunog sir eh there may be some speakers that are not very appealing ang tunog sayo but are loved by others.  So either find an amp that you really like based on features then find speakers for them or listen to speakers and make a choice then find an amp to drive them.  You have to start somewhere because if all you want is something that will sound decent and plays music, even an htib may please your ears.

[Dollarman]

im going for the receiver then speakers route. like i said mas common maka kuha speakers compared to receivers. at least with a receiver i can go audition speakers here. if the price isnt to high ang diff ill buy it here (speakers). with the receiver malamang dyan na ako  kukuha.

[Timithekid]

im going for the receiver then speakers route. like i said mas common maka kuha speakers compared to receivers. at least with a receiver i can go audition speakers here. if the price isnt to high ang diff ill buy it here (speakers). with the receiver malamang dyan na ako  kukuha.

More often than not, its better to have a powerful receiver that has more capacity than the speakers, its to avoid clipping.  How big is the room that you are going to set it up in?

[Dollarman]

sir the room measures 18x15x9 (in feet)

[Timithekid]

sir the room measures 18x15x9 (in feet)

hmm...medyo sizable na yan ah, magkano budget mo sir?

[Dollarman]

siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.

[Timithekid]

siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.

i'm assuming thats for both the receiver and speakers right?  if so, I would strongly suggest doing a 2.1 or 2.0 set up first.  becase when you push for a 5.1 system with a very constrained budget, you will end up with speakers that you dont like, or a receiver that you dont like and before you know it you are either selling one of the pieces or all of them just to upgrade to something better.

Whats fun about this hobby is starting from scratch and building around the toys that you chose because you like them, not because its what you can afford.  so with a 50k budget, for HT and Music use, I will look for these brand of speakers to listen to, Polk audio, PSB, Mission, Wharfedale, Klipsch, B&W(bookshelf).  Then match with with a 2nd hand receiver from the marketplace.  We have some very reputable sellers that are real gentlemen and would be willing to ship items to you at rock bottom prices.

[rhodem24]

i live in cebu mga sirs, kaya medyo mahirap mag audition ng ibat ibang speakers and receivers. we have here onkyo 515, 616, denon 1912,yamaha v667 pio 922, pio 1021 to choose from...almost bought the 922 buti naubusan ng stock.

Bai! I'm also from Cebu! Have you seen a Pioneer VSX-1021 here? Where?

Soundroom is a bit too overpriced. As well as creative audio. Harmanson (across SSS) is the only shop I know that sells HT equipments at a lower price. I dunno sa downtown area.

[raider125jeigh]

siguro sir sa 30k to 50k.

kung receiver lang yan dami nyang pwede..hihihi...
pioneer lang ba option mo?

[Dollarman]

@sir Raider im open to Denon and Yamaha as well. i had a pio setup only sa old car ko kaya first choice ko pio.

@rhodem, bai ya im planning sa harmanson sad mo buy. mahal mahal gyud if agi ta sa soundroom.

@sir Tim budget was for receiver, but i could go 4ok for the receiver then 20k sa speakers. will that be enough na? 

[Dollarman]

guys ask ko lang..how important are reviews from like whathifi, etc...i mean take for example their review on pioneer vsx922 (http://www.whathifi.com/review/pioneer-vsx-922-k) its feature packed, detailed sound and EISA best product 2012. but then reviewer says "Can be bettered for subtlety and dynamics; poor timing in stereo;" awards it 3 stars. 5 stars goes to the yamaha rx-v673 for "Fantastic steering of surround effects; seamless surround field;"

my question is a pio 922k paired with decent speakers - can an ordinary consumer like me feel the poor timing in stereo, lack in subtlety and dynamics?

same goes with the yamaha rxv673 with decent speakers - can i tell the diff between a better steering of surround effects compared to the 922k?

same with the pio vsx1121 vs lx53 - they both have the same power and internals i believe using advanced direct energy. but 1121 is more feature packed. is there really a big diff with sound quality and how they give out the surround effects? because if its just marginally then ill go for the best bang for my buck sort of receiver with enough features to save me further upgrades down the road.

[Tavus]

of all the main stream review site what hifi is probably the worst magazine. They review a lot of stuff but the problem is there reviews short, skimpy and lacks scientific measurements. Go read a review form more reputable mags like  hometheater, sound and vision or audioholics.


Lx53 is the same as the older 1120 not the 1121. go for more expensive speakers then receiver.

[Philander]

Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.

[raider125jeigh]

Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.

go with 821...meron ata sa hmr brader...
if you can go 921 or 1021 the better...

[JojoD818]

Which one to choose:

Pioneer VSX 521 - for Php 10K
or a
Pioneer VSX 821 - for Php 15.5K

The only main difference is the speaker connection and the USB connectivity.

Is the 5.5K difference worth it?

Also Pioneer VSX 522 (with USB just like 821) is being sold for Php 15K.

Bro, can you please share where I can get a 521 for 10K? I need a receiver pronto, my yammy is kinda sick.

As for your question, I'd choose the 521 if the 821's features are useless to me. 5K is still 5K.

Thanks!