Topic: Pioneer Receivers

[Nelson de Leon]

Hi Fellow Pinoydvd members,

I just want to get the opinion of our gurus here. I have a wharfedale valdus 400 fronts, Wharfedale WH2 center, Wharfedale WH2 bipole surrounds speakers and a 512 US audio sub.. Currently using a pioneer vsx-520 a/v reciever and for me bitin. Im contemplating between the Pioneer VSX-1022 and Pioneer Elite VSX-40. Will either of the 2 receiver sufficient to pump up my speakers. What will you recommend between the 2. Thanks in Advance.

Elite!

[jnazareta]

Elite!

Thanks sir Nelson. BTW YGPM...!!!

[angelslayer]

Hi,
Sa mga masters dyan, tanong ko lang po kung pwede gamitin for bi-amp ung surround back ni 1022?
wala kasi ako makita sa google, ilang araw na akong nagbabasa basa wala eh,
thanks

[Nelson de Leon]

Hi,
Sa mga masters dyan, tanong ko lang po kung pwede gamitin for bi-amp ung surround back ni 1022?
wala kasi ako makita sa google, ilang araw na akong nagbabasa basa wala eh,
thanks

Wala po ata din nakalagay sa website nila. I guess it's not possible.

[angelslayer]

Ganun ba, sayang gusto ko pa naman i bi-amp sana ung S606 floorstanders ko

[Nelson de Leon]

Ganun ba, sayang gusto ko pa naman i bi-amp sana ung S606 floorstanders ko

Have you checked the manual sir?

[raider125jeigh]

Have you checked the manual sir?

efren nelson...pros ng bi amp?

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

efren nelson...pros ng bi amp?

dagdag mo na din cons.

[AppleMan]

Yes, ano nga ba effect ng bi-amp sa HT setup?

[Nelson de Leon]

When you say bi amp, it means dedicating an amp for the tweeter and woofer basically. It should mean more juice for both. But question is, in this kind of set-up, di naman matakaw sa power ang tweeters, so parang wala masyadong advantage for me in that configuration. You can also get better control of the tweeter/woofer volume pero more or less kaya na ng EQ yun. But that's just me.
Other people do it sa stereo setups utilizing a combination of tubes and/or S/S amps to get the sweetness of tubes sa highs and the dynamics of S/S sa lows.

[jnazareta]

sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.

[markcrenz]

sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.

pasingit. halos ganyan din egreat ko palit pa ng settings to play aac and some flac files. my workaround was to connect an optical cable to a different input on the receiver, then set spdif to lpcm on the player. so pag ayaw sa hdmi, yung connected to optical ang sine-select kong source sa receiver.

[jnazareta]

sir mark tnx for the tip. now what I i will do is to hook an optical cable from my nmt then set it to lpcm para wla na me gagalawin na settings. pag nagpatugtug ng mp3 or aac codec movies. will send later a feedback. do I have to change the input signal on the reciever or will the reciever detect it automatically?

[angelslayer]

sir angelslayer we have the same reciever 1022, were you able to play mp3 from your nmt source while the hdmi settings sa nmt is set to raw? walang audio eh but flac files works fine. mp3 files played nung nilipat ko sa usb flashdrive and connected sa harap.  another thing po is yung mga mvies na aac ang audio codec wala po syang audio na lumalabas as work around I have to change my hdmi setting from raw to multi channel lpcm sa nmt ko. on my old vsx 520 mp3 plays fine as well as movies with aac codec plays fine din without changing the hdmi audio settings from raw to multi channel lpcm. sir can you verify sa 1022 nyo if we have the same observation.

Hi Sir,

Wala pa ung unit ko sa akin, pinabili ko kasi sa US, and inaantay ko pa eh. pero try ko yan pagdating ng 1022 ko

[Tavus]

here are the new pioneer LX87, LX77 and LX57
doesnt seem that different with the current line up:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers

[Nelson de Leon]

here are the new pioneer LX87, LX77 and LX57
doesnt seem that different with the current line up:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/pioneer-replaces-sc-lx56-and-sc-lx86-award-winning-av-receivers

That means bababa na ang mga prices ng older models!

[Tavus]

That means bababa na ang mga prices ng older models!

I know right? I'm acutally quite happy with my pioneer amp.
 The next AVR i would be hunting for would be something with Audyssey tx32 or anthem arc.

[ninjababez®]

may pioneer power amps ba sa atin?

[jessraf]

Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?

[Nelson de Leon]

Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?

Sir, could you be more specific with what kind of help em you need?

[jessraf]

Sir Nelson, hope I can just play music without turning on my sub and TV. thanks.

[Nelson de Leon]

Sir Nelson, hope I can just play music without turning on my sub and TV. thanks.

Try setting your speakers to L= large. Check if kaya ng receiver mo I-drive ang speakers mo at your listening level.
If capable ng iPod etc devices ang receiver mo, try mo kung makikita sa display ang mga pine-play mo.
You can also buy a very small monitor.
You can also research re airplay and other wired and wireless devices for playing music.

[markcrenz]

Got a VSX521K few years back and never enjoyed listening music in it. First, playing stereo the front speakers has no lows as if it pass through the high pass filter. You need to turn on your sub to compensate. Second, you need to turn on your monitor TV to listen to music. Any help?

first part was answered by nelson. but even if you set it to LARGE, there may not be enough bass output if you're using bookshelf speakers as fronts. retaining the SMALL speaker setting will potentially sound better as the receiver and front speakers will be relieved of the tough duty of reproducing low bass that the sub is intended for.

as to the second concern, meron ka bang direct audio connection from your source to 521? if yes i don't see no reason why you can't listen to music without turning the tv on.

[Nelson de Leon]

as to the second concern, meron ka bang direct audio connection from your source to 521? if yes i don't see no reason why you can't listen to music without turning the tv on.

Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.

[larokulit]

When you say bi amp, it means dedicating an amp for the tweeter and woofer basically. It should mean more juice for both. But question is, in this kind of set-up, di naman matakaw sa power ang tweeters, so parang wala masyadong advantage for me in that configuration. You can also get better control of the tweeter/woofer volume pero more or less kaya na ng EQ yun. But that's just me.
Other people do it sa stereo setups utilizing a combination of tubes and/or S/S amps to get the sweetness of tubes sa highs and the dynamics of S/S sa lows.

+1

Mas maganda rin sana kung yung mga receivers na pwedeng pang bi-amp yung extra channels ay pwede ring mag set ng crossover point. Ganda nun sa 3-way floorstanders kung pwedeng i-LPF sa < 200Hz yung para sa woofer.

[Nelson de Leon]

+1

Mas maganda rin sana kung yung mga receivers na pwedeng pang bi-amp yung extra channels ay pwede ring mag set ng crossover point. Ganda nun sa 3-way floorstanders kung pwedeng i-LPF sa < 200Hz yung para sa woofer.

May mga aftermarket active xovers naman for that purpose.

[markcrenz]

Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.

he didn't mention it kasi and he spoke of the problem as if the receiver is at fault. i thought baka lang sa connections ang problema.

umorder ka na ba ng sc86?

[Nelson de Leon]

he didn't mention it kasi and he spoke of the problem as if the receiver is at fault. i thought baka lang sa connections ang problema.

umorder ka na ba ng sc86?

I also just presumed. Hehe! Not yet. Can't afford. though sayang because I feel July would a a very great opportunity kc pasok na ang newer models.

[jessraf]

Most likely yun source ng music nya needs a monitor. Probably nmt or pc.

Thanks Mga Bro, btw am using Sony bdp bx38 as my blueray player and my old bose 201 for front. Not much improvement noticed in bass while using my small wharfedale modus. Will test it later using my old reliable pioneer cs 822A as suggested by Sir Nelson changing speaker to large. Another thing, am using the 2 outputs of my blueray player to my amplifier, hdmi and RCA (to get the analog signal for msuic). From the amp to tv monitor only hdmi and from tv monitor to amp only optical cable.

[crazyhog]

@ ALL, pls help.

in simple terms, anong ibig sabihin ng WARM-NEUTRAL-BRIGHT in terms of speaker-receiver matching?
and ano ideal preference  for home theater set up?


and is PIONEER performs well w/ TSi400 - CS20(soon)? Warm ba ang tunog?
if Onkyo gagamitin, ano rin?

*2nd hand lang muna, either Pioneer - Onkyo. for PIO, 1021/1121 un nagustuhan ko.