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Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1620 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 10:12 PM »
ganun pala... thanks for the info sir... by the way, is it recommended to use same model of sub for a dual sub setup?

If you would be feeding the same signal to both subs, yes, dapat identical.
But if you plan to delegate different cutoffs or frequencies, baka there's no need to be identical, pero masmaganda pa din kung same brand and model.

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Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1621 on: Aug 07, 2013 at 01:11 AM »
If you would be feeding the same signal to both subs, yes, dapat identical.
But if you plan to delegate different cutoffs or frequencies, baka there's no need to be identical, pero masmaganda pa din kung same brand and model.

copy sir, sana may magbenta pa ng isa pang polk audio psw125 sub ... abangers mode :) tnx

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1622 on: Aug 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM »
pa suggest nmn po receiver plus 2 floorstanding speakers my budget is 30k saka nalang cguro yung center, surround at sub hehe tight budget, mag start palang akong bumuo ng 5.1 set up...naka edifier s530d 2.1 set up lang ako ngayon...(50/50 movies and music)

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Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1623 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 03:49 AM »
any owners of pioneer vsx 522 receiver? paano po paganahin yun HDMI pass through? may setting po ba na kailangan enabled sa receiver? thanks

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1624 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 05:29 AM »
any owners of pioneer vsx 522 receiver? paano po paganahin yun HDMI pass through? may setting po ba na kailangan enabled sa receiver? thanks
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1625 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 07:10 AM »
pa suggest nmn po receiver plus 2 floorstanding speakers my budget is 30k saka nalang cguro yung center, surround at sub hehe tight budget, mag start palang akong bumuo ng 5.1 set up...naka edifier s530d 2.1 set up lang ako ngayon...(50/50 movies and music)

In this thread, expect people to suggest Pioneer receivers because nasa Pioneer receiver thread tayo. With your budget, I'd rather get a pair of very good bookshelf speakers kesa floorstanders. Average entry-mid level Pio pre-owned receivers would cost you around P6-14k. try visiting our suking brick and mortar stores to audition different brands of speakers to your liking. ;D

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1626 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 09:44 AM »
Question lang mga ka-Pioneer owners...

Since Pioneer AVRs doesn't have LPF on LFE signal unlike other AVRs(eg. Denon and Onkyo which is usually set at 120Hz), does this mean that whatever the original frequency content of that LFE signal is untouched by the Pioneer receiver and then sent to the subwoofer plus the redirected bass from the other speaker channels that is crossover'd at a certain frequency, let's say 80Hz?
Or the speaker channel crossover setting acts as the LPF on LFE?

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1627 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 10:36 AM »
Hi guys, any review po regarding sa VSX 322?

I'm planning to buy pre-owned. Just starting to build my humble theater system. :)
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1628 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 04:36 PM »
Question lang mga ka-Pioneer owners...

Since Pioneer AVRs doesn't have LPF on LFE signal unlike other AVRs(eg. Denon and Onkyo which is usually set at 120Hz), does this mean that whatever the original frequency content of that LFE signal is untouched by the Pioneer receiver and then sent to the subwoofer plus the redirected bass from the other speaker channels that is crossover'd at a certain frequency, let's say 80Hz?
Or the speaker channel crossover setting acts as the LPF on LFE?
yes and yes. i think pioneer did the right thing by not putting LPF on the sub channel, makes the signal somehow purer. wala namang high frequency content ang lfe.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1629 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 08:12 PM »
yes and yes. i think pioneer did the right thing by not putting LPF on the sub channel, makes the signal somehow purer. wala namang high frequency content ang lfe.

I see. Alright, many thanks sir Marc :)

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1630 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 10:09 PM »
pwede na kaya ang Pioneer VSX521 sa Wharfedale Diamond 10.7?

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1631 on: Aug 13, 2013 at 10:47 PM »
pwede na kaya ang Pioneer VSX521 sa Wharfedale Diamond 10.7?

Sir pwede naman kaya lang you won't get to use the Diamond 10.7's full potential. Better get an AVR with more power. The VSX-521/522 is/are better used with 80-120w rated speakers.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1632 on: Sep 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM »
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata

Mine is 1121, pass through is working with Panny VT30 at HDMI ARC from a PS3 HDMI to HDMI 1 Pio 1121

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1633 on: Sep 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM »
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1634 on: Sep 23, 2013 at 08:19 PM »
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.

Baka tarnishing sir. Can you post pictures?

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1635 on: Sep 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM »
Guys question lng po sa may mga nakaexperience na, I have a 1121, ung banana plug na gamet ng wharf 10.6, 10CM ay 9DFS.

Ung gold plated na banana plug nagiging grayish to black tas ung patner na plug na kulay gray eh nagiging black pero naalis nmn pag nilinis.

Anu po ba ang cause ni2? Maxado bang mahina ung banana plug or nalalakasan ba xa sa watt? Wala nmng issue sa performance. Pansin ko lng 2 pag nachecheck ung mga plugs. Ang dumi kasi tingnan haha.

Sure ka bang Gold yan? Hindi kaya kulay gold lang, kaya nagtatarnish.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1636 on: Sep 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM »
Sir pwede naman kaya lang you won't get to use the Diamond 10.7's full potential. Better get an AVR with more power. The VSX-521/522 is/are better used with 80-120w rated speakers.

IIRC, may pre-out for front channels ang 522. so kailangan lang ng 2-channel power amp para sa Diamond 10.7. :)
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1637 on: Sep 25, 2013 at 07:22 AM »
Cguro nga kulay gold lng haha, anyway I will try to post a pic here. Para in case na mag-cause ito ng something sa unit maige ng maagapan. Thanks to all

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1638 on: Sep 26, 2013 at 05:23 AM »
IIRC, may pre-out for front channels ang 522. so kailangan lang ng 2-channel power amp para sa Diamond 10.7. :)

Sir In my Understanding po is yung preout ng 522 ay for surrounds/front heights use po. 11XX series po ang may mga pre-out.

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Re: Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1639 on: Sep 26, 2013 at 08:26 AM »
Sir In my Understanding po is yung preout ng 522 ay for surrounds/front heights use po. 11XX series po ang may mga pre-out.

Or baka zone 2.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1640 on: Sep 26, 2013 at 09:31 AM »
passthrough i stand by mo...dapat lalabas na ung pic ng source sa tv kahit stand bu si pio..hindi ko napagana sa 1021 ko yan hehe sa 22series working na ata

Mine is also VSX 1021 gumagana naman passthrough.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1641 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 03:03 PM »
is 522/523 enough for a 25sqm sala?

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1642 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 04:26 PM »
kulang yan. need mo rin source, tv, speakers, sub and seats.  ;D

at moderate listening levels pwede na yan, unless you have very low sensitivity speakers.
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1643 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 04:56 PM »
nyahahaha..

i will be using wharf 10.4, is that okay?
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1644 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 05:38 PM »
question to pioneer users:

why is pioneer avr cheaper than the other brands (HK, Onkyo, Denon)? Does pioneer have less features? Less power? Bad performance?

i would like to replace my old HK avr and would like to try pioneer.

thanks.

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« Reply #1645 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 05:56 PM »
question to pioneer users:

why is pioneer avr cheaper than the other brands (HK, Onkyo, Denon)? Does pioneer have less features? Less power? Bad performance?

i would like to replace my old HK avr and would like to try pioneer.

thanks.


It has more features compared sa mga ka-level nya sa price range. May mga powerful elite receivers din na competitive with other brands. My current receiver is already my 2nd pioneer receiver. I'm still using my first pioneer which I bought pre-owned. No issues so far. I guess one thing lacking with vsx models are the pre-outs. Elite models have pre-outs, but with its current powerful proprietary class D amplification, I'm not sure kung magagamit mo pa ang pre-outs.
Overall for me, if ever I would change my receiver, I'd stick with Pioneer. I know I'm getting my money's worth.

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« Reply #1646 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 06:45 PM »

It has more features compared sa mga ka-level nya sa price range. May mga powerful elite receivers din na competitive with other brands. My current receiver is already my 2nd pioneer receiver. I'm still using my first pioneer which I bought pre-owned. No issues so far. I guess one thing lacking with vsx models are the pre-outs. Elite models have pre-outs, but with its current powerful proprietary class D amplification, I'm not sure kung magagamit mo pa ang pre-outs.
Overall for me, if ever I would change my receiver, I'd stick with Pioneer. I know I'm getting my money's worth.

thanks Nelson.

Sayang naman kung walang pre-outs ang mga vsx models.

initially planned to get an elite lx53 but ran out of stocks so im eyeing the vsx1121. What do you think of this?

2 questions - is it true that speaker settings are only set to Small? and that the vsx can not equalize subs?


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« Reply #1647 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 06:50 PM »
thanks Nelson.

Sayang naman kung walang pre-outs ang mga vsx models.

initially planned to get an elite lx53 but ran out of stocks so im eyeing the vsx1121. What do you think of this?

2 questions - is it true that speaker settings are only set to Small? and that the vsx can not equalize subs?

Speaker settings are either small or large.
I'm not sure if all vsx cannot equalize subs. Mind doesn't. But you can also check out Weng's mini DSP. You can EQ your sub for less than P6k ata.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1648 on: Oct 04, 2013 at 07:18 PM »
Speaker settings are either small or large.
I'm not sure if all vsx cannot equalize subs. Mind doesn't. But you can also check out Weng's mini DSP. You can EQ your sub for less than P6k ata.

manual calibration na lang siguro. maraming salamat.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1649 on: Oct 14, 2013 at 08:18 PM »

@nelson de león,

sir, is it true that an entry level elite series is better than the top of the line VSX level? sound quality is more robust and punchier - is this true?

the only difference i see (1122 vs elite 56) is the THX certification and the DTS:NEO. Am i missing something?