Author Topic: Pioneer Receivers (Read 283102 times)

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1650 on:** Oct 14, 2013 at 08:31 PM »

Quote from: Oloap on Oct 14, 2013 at 08:18 PM

@nelson de león,

sir, is it true that an entry level elite series is better than the top of the line VSX level? sound quality is more robust and punchier - is this true?

the only difference i see (1122 vs elite 56) is the THX certification and the DTS:NEO. Am i missing something?

Honestly I haven't compared the 2012-2013 models of entry elite and top of the line vsx. Dati kc, yun mga entry level ng elite have robust amplification talaga. Mga Class D icepower or proprietary D3 ang lahat ng elite. Pero ngayon kc, hindi pa class D ang mga entry ng Elite. More on features kc napansin ko, ang vsx models. Though powerful naman ang 1020 ko. It's driving 5 pcs na 4ohms 10" coax, speakers set to small. Pwera pa yun 4 ohms na 8"ers ko. All at reference levels. Pero when set to large, nasa 70db lang ako at most otherwise, nag-auto protect siya.
But kung mga 6-8 ohms lang for the higher vsx, I'm sure kaya nya.

markcrenz · « **Reply #1651 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 09:00 AM »

lahat ng pioneer vsx coming from the same year, elite or not, pare-pareho ang amp section, magkakaiba lang power supply.

implemented din sa SC series.

Oloap · « **Reply #1652 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 03:19 PM »

Quote from: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 09:00 AM

lahat ng pioneer vsx coming from the same year, elite or not, pare-pareho ang amp section, magkakaiba lang power supply.

implemented din sa SC series.

sir markcrenz,

assuming that the vsx1122 and elite sc53 are of the same year, walang pinagkaiba lamang-loob? pareho dapat sound quality? does power supply have something to do with sound quality?

thanks.

markcrenz · « **Reply #1653 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 06:07 PM »

they have diff amps. vsx and elite vsx has class ab amps, elite sc has class d, or for them D3

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1654 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 06:13 PM »

Quote from: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:07 PM

they have diff amps. vsx has class ab amps, sc has class d, or for them D3

Oo nga. Nagbago na ulit ang mga pioneer. Class D na maski entry level nila NG ELITE. Dati kasi hindi eh. Huwaw!

markcrenz · « **Reply #1655 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 06:28 PM »

^ corrected by

vsx and elite vsx has class ab amps, sc and elite sc has class d

markcrenz · « **Reply #1656 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 06:57 PM »

wala yatang elite sc53, elite vsx 53 lang. and since vsx, class ab amp nya, same with vsx 1122. kung pareho price nila i'd pick the elite model anytime.

Oloap · « **Reply #1657 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 07:41 PM »

Quote from: markcrenz on Oct 15, 2013 at 06:57 PM

wala yatang elite sc53, elite vsx 53 lang. and since vsx, class ab amp nya, same with vsx 1122. kung pareho price nila i'd pick the elite model anytime.

sorry about that. yes, its vsx-lx53.

the price difference is about 8K. will that justify getting the elite?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1658 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 07:50 PM »

Quote from: Oloap on Oct 15, 2013 at 07:41 PM

sorry about that. yes, its vsx-lx53.

the price difference is about 8K. will that justify getting the elite?

What model ng Elite?

markcrenz · « **Reply #1659 on:** Oct 15, 2013 at 09:23 PM »

vsx 53 vs 1122 konsi.

53 has a tad more power, 12v trigger and complete preouts. there may be other specs and features where the 53 betters the 1122, up to you to decide whether the price diff is worth it.

benzng · « **Reply #1660 on:** Oct 22, 2013 at 03:36 PM »

any feedback on the VSX 322 as an entry level amp for my polk audio 400Ch bar speaker? thanks

acepogs · « **Reply #1661 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 02:11 PM »

Question, is 1121 suppports 5.1 from DVD using RCA to receiver? I only see pre-out, I tried using this setup for PC that has 3x3 3.5m converted to RCA, during testing I plugged them on the Pre-out as input all speakers works when testing from the sound card software but when playing a movie seems won't work or the center and surround has a minimal sound. The computer does not have HDMI or optical. And there is no dedicated input for 6 channel audio for RCA.

markcrenz · « **Reply #1662 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 05:41 PM »

basta may wires/kuryente NEVER use OUT for IN!

dm1179 · « **Reply #1663 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 06:19 PM »

@acepogs: if not sure, always refer to your owner's manual before connection. the VSX-1121 does not have 5.1ch analog inputs. PRE-OUT are outputs to be connected to external Power Amps.

mbtorn · « **Reply #1664 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 06:35 PM »

Quote from: acepogs on Nov 07, 2013 at 02:11 PM

Question, is 1121 suppports 5.1 from DVD using RCA to receiver? I only see pre-out, I tried using this setup for PC that has 3x3 3.5m converted to RCA, during testing I plugged them on the Pre-out as input all speakers works when testing from the sound card software but when playing a movie seems won't work or the center and surround has a minimal sound. The computer does not have HDMI or optical. And there is no dedicated input for 6 channel audio for RCA.

why do you need 5.1 inputs? just connect your vsx 1121 to your dvd/blu ray player via hdmi and your receiver can output 7.1 channels.

acepogs · « **Reply #1665 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 07:52 PM »

I used the word DVD to be as the PC that uses 3 x 3.5mm or 6 RCA channels, nasa service kasi ang TV ko, cannot use PS3 ung monitor is VGA only and I can only use a PC that has 6 channels or 3 3.5mm jack, no HDMI or Optical/SPDIF. Like said hindi ko magamet ng maayos ang pre-out as input, pero pag nag play test ka sa PC VIA HD Audio 6channel sound test, lhat sila meron. And pag dating sa movie using VLC or Media player ng naka Dolby 5.1 and source mahina ang center at wala nmn surround. I wonder panu xa nagkaganun. So siniset ko na lng ung VLC sa stereo mode then gawin na lng surround ni pio of course hindi xa fully 5.1. Perhaps hindi na ba supported ng mga receiver ngaun ang multi channel analog input?

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1666 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 08:44 PM »

Quote from: markcrenz on Nov 07, 2013 at 05:41 PM

basta may wires/kuryente NEVER use OUT for IN!

Quote from: dm1179 on Nov 07, 2013 at 06:19 PM

@acepogs: if not sure, always refer to your owner's manual before connection. the VSX-1121 does not have 5.1ch analog inputs. PRE-OUT are outputs to be connected to external Power Amps.

Quote from: acepogs on Nov 07, 2013 at 07:52 PM

I used the word DVD to be as the PC that uses 3 x 3.5mm or 6 RCA channels, nasa service kasi ang TV ko, cannot use PS3 ung monitor is VGA only and I can only use a PC that has 6 channels or 3 3.5mm jack, no HDMI or Optical/SPDIF. Like said hindi ko magamet ng maayos ang pre-out as input, pero pag nag play test ka sa PC VIA HD Audio 6channel sound test, lhat sila meron. And pag dating sa movie using VLC or Media player ng naka Dolby 5.1 and source mahina ang center at wala nmn surround. I wonder panu xa nagkaganun. So siniset ko na lng ung VLC sa stereo mode then gawin na lng surround ni pio of course hindi xa fully 5.1. Perhaps hindi na ba supported ng mga receiver ngaun ang multi channel analog input?

markcrenz · « **Reply #1667 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 09:04 PM »

if he doesn't get our point konsi, pagkaayos ng tv, receiver or pc sound card naman ipaparepair... may the best opamp win!

Ron_21 · « **Reply #1668 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 09:58 PM »

question. lets say iout ang audio ng tv using optical papuntang receiver. tapos ac3/stereo format lang yung audio/movie.

5.1 or 7.1 pa din ba ang ilalabas na sound ng receiver. or need talaga ng 5.1 or 7.1 source?

markcrenz · « **Reply #1669 on:** Nov 07, 2013 at 10:27 PM »

any stereo source can be processed to 5.1/7.1 by any modern a/v receiver, just choose the settings.

pero iba syempre compared to a discrete 5.1/7.1 source.

acepogs · « **Reply #1670 on:** Nov 08, 2013 at 05:38 PM »

Aw sorry di ko ata nabasa ung message sa taas before I post my second message. Thanks.

marfin · « **Reply #1671 on:** Nov 21, 2013 at 01:58 PM »

Sorry if i post on the wrong thread...

I just got vsx-522 and when trying to connect to my PS3 the video will flickered several times before it works ok.

My connection: PS3> hdmi game vsx-522 > TV

anybody here having same experienced?
i want to know earlier before trying to bring the unit back maybe is a known issue.

btw i have no other hdmi sources to test with, i try to connect my sony handycam thru hdmi and play the recorded video and no flickering occur.

iconlord · « **Reply #1672 on:** Nov 22, 2013 at 02:45 PM »

Quote from: marfin on Nov 21, 2013 at 01:58 PM

Sorry if i post on the wrong thread...

I just got vsx-522 and when trying to connect to my PS3 the video will flickered several times before it works ok.

My connection: PS3> hdmi game vsx-522 > TV

anybody here having same experienced?
i want to know earlier before trying to bring the unit back maybe is a known issue.

btw i have no other hdmi sources to test with, i try to connect my sony handycam thru hdmi and play the recorded video and no flickering occur.

isolate using another HDMI cable.

marfin · « **Reply #1673 on:** Nov 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM »

Quote from: iconlord on Nov 22, 2013 at 02:45 PM

isolate using another HDMI cable.

I did sir pero same thing parin may flickering(picture and sound going in and out) parang nag aadjust sya ng video, minsan after 1 minute bago maging ok

my ps3 is an old fat 80Gb cfw multiman.

my current remmedy but not a solution is to direct PS3> TV then use toslink cable TV > vsx-522

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #1674 on:** Nov 23, 2013 at 08:09 AM »

Quote from: marfin on Nov 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM

I did sir pero same thing parin may flickering(picture and sound going in and out) parang nag aadjust sya ng video, minsan after 1 minute bago maging ok

my ps3 is an old fat 80Gb cfw multiman.

my current remmedy but not a solution is to direct PS3> TV then use toslink cable TV > vsx-522

Have you tried the other HDMI ports? Kung may upscaling ang receiver mo, have you tried turning it off or selecting native?

marfin · « **Reply #1675 on:** Nov 27, 2013 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 23, 2013 at 08:09 AM

Have you tried the other HDMI ports? Kung may upscaling ang receiver mo, have you tried turning it off or selecting native?

SOLVED.!!!

Yes sir na try ko narin lahat ng HDMI pero ganyan parin, later on i went to PS3 Video settings and set all HDMI output to 1080p rather than automatic and this has solved the issue.

Seems like yung PS3 nga ang nag auto i-initialize that caused the flickering...

Now it works fine na...

iconlord · « **Reply #1676 on:** Dec 14, 2013 at 02:29 PM »

need some advice guys, im torn between a used 2years old pioneer vsx920K 7.1 and my current 5 months old vsx522 5.1 receiver..

im thinking of selling my 522 and buy the 920 7.1 receiver..

thanks

russman · « **Reply #1677 on:** Dec 18, 2013 at 04:45 PM »

Any feedbacks sa VSX-523K mga ser? Nagbasa ako ng mga review sa net oks naman. Noobie set up palang to be paired with Polk Audio TSI 100 and PSW110.

ashelyacts · « **Reply #1678 on:** Dec 22, 2013 at 01:46 AM »

What is a good pioneer home theater setup or receiver for a newbie? Im currently using a cheap 2.1 PC speaker woofer on my 32 inch tv.

I saw a pioneer package for 29k and the receiver has 4k video upscaling and airplay. It includes tall speakers and huge subwoofer. Is this a good deal?

zram18 · « **Reply #1679 on:** Dec 22, 2013 at 01:36 PM »

baka yung pioneer todoroki set yan sir, yung madalas makita sa mga appliance store. personally, naaudition ko na mga yun, pero di ko nagustuhan sound. pati subwoofer, di maganda..something is lacking sa characteristics ng sound, lacks the punch. pioneer, magaling sa receivers, pero sa speakers esp subwoofers, i believe not their main forte. talo cla ng other brands.