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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1710 on: Mar 25, 2014 at 11:03 PM »
Update lang po. I called the Pioneer Service Center and was told that they are replacing the System IC and Transistors on my receiver. I was informed that the System IC' that they replaced cost more than 2K and their labor for the repair is 1.5K and the other parts that they replaced are around 1K that sums up to 4.5K. They are now testing my receiver and I will pick it up on Saturday po. Hope everything will be okey na sa receiver ko.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1711 on: Mar 25, 2014 at 11:05 PM »
ano po cause bat nasira yun? para ma avoid ng ibang pio avr users sir

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« Reply #1712 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 12:42 AM »
ano po cause bat nasira yun? para ma avoid ng ibang pio avr users sir

Sir kangkaroth,

I will get back to you on that after I pick up my unit on Saturday, I was surprised that a System IC cost that much or probably they jacked up the price of the part, IMHO the labor is not fair as well which cost 1.5K.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1713 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 01:52 AM »
Sir kangkaroth,

I will get back to you on that after I pick up my unit on Saturday, I was surprised that a System IC cost that much or probably they jacked up the price of the part, IMHO the labor is not fair as well which cost 1.5K.

Mahal talaga kapag OEM. Sa sasakyan din ganun.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1714 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 05:38 AM »
Ot magkano ba local pio 1222? Yun may ice amp :)
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« Reply #1715 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 08:00 AM »
Ot magkano ba local pio 1222? Yun may ice amp :)

Ang alam ko, since Pio stopped using Ice amp. proprietary class D amp na ang gamit nila. Pero magandang question yan!!!

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1716 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 10:45 AM »
Ang alam ko, since Pio stopped using Ice amp. proprietary class D amp na ang gamit nila. Pero magandang question yan!!!
ok lang basta mas bright ang tunog mas OK.  san ba tayo makakakita online ng prices ng Pioneer receivers, in pesos ha :)
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1717 on: Mar 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM »
ok lang basta mas bright ang tunog mas OK.  san ba tayo makakakita online ng prices ng Pioneer receivers, in pesos ha :)

Amazon kung US. Less than $600 siya. Pero shemps iba ang costing ng Distro natin sa Pinas. Discontinued product na daw.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1718 on: Apr 01, 2014 at 12:15 AM »
Hi Fellow Pinoy DVD members,

Just an update on my VSX 1022. It is now up and running and there are 4 IC's replaced. I was told that the cause was electricity daw. kasi daw po naka plug yung voltage requlator ko sa wall outlet and wala daw kasi power delay ang voltage requlator ko that might cause the IC's to be damage. He added that kahit na ka off and voltage regulator and AV receiver ko there's still current going into the receiver and because it was not use for a period time kaya daw po ganon ang pwedeng mangyari. Lesson learned, Now Im hunting for a new voltage regulator na may power on delay button or switch for better prevention.

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« Reply #1719 on: Apr 01, 2014 at 08:37 AM »
Parang malabo ata yun kasi kapag off ang AVR or receiver, the most is sa isang pole lang ang pumapasok ang electricity. You might want to invest in a surge protector instead.

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1720 on: Apr 01, 2014 at 11:03 AM »
You can bring your voltage regulator to me for calibration. Lagyan ko na rin ng delay and surge protector.

Kalokohan naman yun sinabi nya na naka-off na voltage regulator may current pa. Sana sinabi na lang nya na hindi namin ma-pinpoint ang cause, mas acceptable pa. All parts are borne to fail at some point in time for any number of reasons.

I don't know about the newer Pioneers, but the older ones (2009 and older) I opened already had line filter and surge protector (common mode choke, x-caps and varistor). However, a redunadant system against surge protection is a good security measure.



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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1721 on: Apr 01, 2014 at 11:27 AM »
Is there harm when there are multiple (2) circuit breakers and  surge protection ?
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1722 on: Apr 03, 2014 at 11:21 PM »
Parang malabo ata yun kasi kapag off ang AVR or receiver, the most is sa isang pole lang ang pumapasok ang electricity. You might want to invest in a surge protector instead.

Sir Nelson, I do have a panther surge protector po and it is always on po, From the surge protector dun nakasaksak ang CDR-king SVC 1000VA na voltage regulator. I always switch off the voltage regulator when not in use yun nga lang di ko sya unplug sa surge protector.

You can bring your voltage regulator to me for calibration. Lagyan ko na rin ng delay and surge protector.

Kalokohan naman yun sinabi nya na naka-off na voltage regulator may current pa. Sana sinabi na lang nya na hindi namin ma-pinpoint ang cause, mas acceptable pa. All parts are borne to fail at some point in time for any number of reasons.

I don't know about the newer Pioneers, but the older ones (2009 and older) I opened already had line filter and surge protector (common mode choke, x-caps and varistor). However, a redunadant system against surge protection is a good security measure.

Sir markcrenz, It's so generous of you to offer that assistance. I love to bring it to you baka po next week para po macalibrate. I have 2 CDR-King SVC 1000VA voltage regulator. Kindly PM me po the cost of the parts and the labor po. Para po pag kaya ko madala ko agad sa inyo this weekend. If not po baka after ng sweldo na lang. Pero I really appreciate po your generous offer. TIA..!!!

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1723 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 10:56 AM »
meron ba ditto sa pdvd na may pioneer vsx-1122 receiver? sinusubukan ko kasing I-calibrate pero nawala subwoofer sound nung ginamit ko yung advance mcaac option, gusto ko kasing subukan nalang manual calibration kung may magandang set-up sa inyo dito. Current surround speakers are klipsch reference series with 12" sub.  thanks in advance!
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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1724 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 11:16 AM »
meron ba ditto sa pdvd na may pioneer vsx-1122 receiver? sinusubukan ko kasing I-calibrate pero nawala subwoofer sound nung ginamit ko yung advance mcaac option, gusto ko kasing subukan nalang manual calibration kung may magandang set-up sa inyo dito. Current surround speakers are klipsch reference series with 12" sub.  thanks in advance!

Hindi ko pa nagamit ang advance MCACC. Pwede mo siguro i-reset. Naka-manual calibration ako sa Pio pero hindi maganda ang set-up ko. Wait mo lang ang mga ibang naka-Pio na magandang set-up.

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« Reply #1725 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 11:43 AM »
Hindi ko pa nagamit ang advance MCACC. Pwede mo siguro i-reset. Naka-manual calibration ako sa Pio pero hindi maganda ang set-up ko. Wait mo lang ang mga ibang naka-Pio na magandang set-up.

Thanks Nelson,

Nung bago ko kasi gamitin advance MCAAC ok pa naman sound output ng sub pero parang ang hina na ngayon tsaka hindi talaga ako satisfied sa quality ng default set-up ng system ko. Nakakabad-trip kasi kapag nagpupunta ako sa pinagbilhan ko ng HT gears ko, same yung tv, speakers set-up nila except Marantz yung receiver pero ang ganda ng sounds kaya napapatambay tuloy ako sa store para mag-demo ng movie. Kaya ganun ko ka-gusto I-calibrate yung sakin para naman gumanda naman ng konti yung quality ng sounds na lumabas sa system ko.

Yung may similar na pioneer vsx 1122 ditto, kindly give me some advice or better yet paki-post narin ditto kung may manual settings kayo sa receiver nyo. thanks
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« Reply #1726 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 12:54 PM »
Thanks Nelson,

Nung bago ko kasi gamitin advance MCAAC ok pa naman sound output ng sub pero parang ang hina na ngayon tsaka hindi talaga ako satisfied sa quality ng default set-up ng system ko. Nakakabad-trip kasi kapag nagpupunta ako sa pinagbilhan ko ng HT gears ko, same yung tv, speakers set-up nila except Marantz yung receiver pero ang ganda ng sounds kaya napapatambay tuloy ako sa store para mag-demo ng movie. Kaya ganun ko ka-gusto I-calibrate yung sakin para naman gumanda naman ng konti yung quality ng sounds na lumabas sa system ko.

Yung may similar na pioneer vsx 1122 ditto, kindly give me some advice or better yet paki-post narin ditto kung may manual settings kayo sa receiver nyo. thanks

Kung sub volume lang, what if lakasan mo ang sub output sa amp. Pwede din sa individual gain settings ng speaker.

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« Reply #1727 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 01:21 PM »
Kung sub volume lang, what if lakasan mo ang sub output sa amp. Pwede din sa individual gain settings ng speaker.

Thanks ulit sa reply sir Nelson, just backreading on the thread, isa ka pala sa mga expert dito kaya positive input sigurado makukuha kong advice. Bago palang kasi ako sa audio/video hobby na to kaya diko parin masyado alam lahat ng terminology sa set-up/settings. Siguro try ko muna reset into factory settings receiver ko bago ko ulit I-auto/manual calibrate. Parang humina kasi lahat sounds ng mga speakers ko after na sinubukan kong mag-experiment eh. Nandito pala sa link nato ang mga speakers ko (listed on my signature), diko alam kung maganda ba match nila ng receiver ko.. http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/audio/10.aspx?type=product&filter=category%253aTV%2B%2526%2BHome%2BTheatre%253bcategory%253aAudio%253bbrandName%253aKLIPSCH

Balak ko rin kasi palitan amp ko kapag na-finalize kona floor plan ng gagawin kong HT room 20'x14'x8' dimension, baka mag-upgrade ako ng receiver and 9.2 surround set-up. Hintayin ko lang siguro bumaba price nitong mga pioneer receiver nato mukhang future proof naman kaya magtagal siguro ang gamit nito  1.http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/pioneer-pioneer-9-2-channel-class-d3-network-multi-zone-receiver-sc-1527-k-sc-1527-k/10207798.aspx?path=91b8a660a64610f49e4fc79ff6e40266en02  OR  2.http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/pioneer-pioneer-1215-watt-9-2-channel-network-receiver-sc-1528-k-sc-1528-k/10266246.aspx?path=6776ac5bf93419982b15d06e3e3c1925en02
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« Reply #1728 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 02:58 PM »
Hindi po ako expert. It just so happen na nakabisado ko ang Pio 1020 ko sir. pero honestly, yun advance MCACC, hindi ko ginalaw beause i'm satisfied naman sa personal calibration ko. The big advantage of the advance MCACC, i think, is the multi seat calibration. It's doable naman via manual calibration. But once na nag-multi-seat calibration ka, expect na mabawasan minsan ang SQ sa listening position mo. Kung madalas ikaw lang ang nanunuod and ikaw lang ang critical makinig, i would opt for the single seat calibration.

With your current speakers, i wouldn't worry too much on power. Napakadaling i-drive ng mga Klipsch because i use to own an RB-81. Pero for future proffing, iba pa din yun malakas na amp. Maganda ang mga proprietary class D amp ng pioneer. Nasa Elite series nila.

Yes, try mo muna factory reset. Then calibrate ulit (automatically stored in Memory 1). After calibrating, you can transfer the data from memory 1 to memory 2. From memory 2, you can tweak it na according to your preference. Pero kindly check na din if this is possible with your cyrrent receiver. Hindi ako gaano familiar sa features ng new receivers ngayon pero with my Pio 1020, kaya naman. If possible, at least may memory 1 ka na auto calibration para may reference ka for future tweaking.
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« Reply #1729 on: Apr 07, 2014 at 03:38 PM »
+100 for Nelson as an expert or knowledgeable s Pioneer. When i was still hunting for AVR, c sir Nelson ang nakapag convince na magPIO  :)

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Re: Pioneer Receivers
« Reply #1730 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 01:34 AM »
Contemplating on buying a pre-owned VSX1021 from a PDVD seller... The only thing different daw in the package is that the remote is the one from the VSX921 which works on the 1021 according to him.  Is this true? Will I be losing some features fro the original remote?

Thank you in advance for your help and advice.

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« Reply #1731 on: Apr 17, 2014 at 07:43 AM »
Search the net for the image of the two remotes and compare for missing buttons/features

Contemplating on buying a pre-owned VSX1021 from a PDVD seller... The only thing different daw in the package is that the remote is the one from the VSX921 which works on the 1021 according to him.  Is this true? Will I be losing some features fro the original remote?

Thank you in advance for your help and advice.

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« Reply #1732 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 10:38 AM »
Got my 1st amp, Pioneer 521k. Question sirs, yung media player (Mede9er) ko is connected sa Video HDMI port ng receiver.

Pag naka off yung receiver hindi lumalabas yung Mede8er sa TV, meron ba ako kelangan isetup para gumana yung pass through feature nung amp?

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« Reply #1733 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 01:03 PM »
Got my 1st amp, Pioneer 521k. Question sirs, yung media player (Mede9er) ko is connected sa Video HDMI port ng receiver.

Pag naka off yung receiver hindi lumalabas yung Mede8er sa TV, meron ba ako kelangan isetup para gumana yung pass through feature nung amp?

Meron kaso hindi ko din kabisado. Try turning on the media player first, then yun receiver. Then turn-off the receiver afterwards baka gumana.

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« Reply #1734 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 04:54 PM »
i think the manual describes it in detail. you can download a copy if you don't have one
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« Reply #1735 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 05:17 PM »
Mark, explain mo nga sa akin please... ;D

Pwede ako mag PS3 kahit di ko on yun AVR?


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« Reply #1736 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 06:19 PM »
Tipid ito sa kuryente kung sakali pwede!
Perspicuus ~ Quietus ~ Consilium ~ Patefacio

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« Reply #1737 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 06:37 PM »
Mark, explain mo nga sa akin please... ;D

Pwede ako mag PS3 kahit di ko on yun AVR?


tamad nyo mag-rtfm, tamad pa mag-gugel!  ;D ;D ;D

from http://www.avforums.com/threads/pioneer-vsx-521k-receiver-audio-pass-through.1553034/
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I got it working... I Had to change a setting under Audio Parameters from 'HDMI AMP' to 'HDMI THRU' and bingo bango! SOUND!!! Yay Manual's troubleshooting section!!!

To cover in case anyone is having this problem
Press the Audio Parameter button (Looks like an x) then scroll up until you see 'HDMI AMP' and hit over to the left or right so it shows 'HDMI THRU' the HDMI will redo the handshake and BAM you should have sound.
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« Reply #1738 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 06:38 PM »
Tipid ito sa kuryente kung sakali pwede!
di naman enjoy...  :P
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« Reply #1739 on: Apr 22, 2014 at 06:47 PM »
tamad nyo mag-rtfm, tamad pa mag-gugel!  ;D ;D ;D

from http://www.avforums.com/threads/pioneer-vsx-521k-receiver-audio-pass-through.1553034/

andiyan ka naman para mag explain eh! ;D ;D ;D

masubukan nga yan settings na ganyan, magbuhat ng binili ko plasma ko di ko pa nagamit speakers nun eh :P


additional question lang, pag ganun ang setting, pwede ba na naka off yun receiver habang nag ps3?