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YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« on: Apr 03, 2006 at 09:28 PM »

LINK:http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/573/v/3/

Beats out Denon 2106, Pioneer VSX-1015, Sony STR-DB895.

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #1 on: Apr 03, 2006 at 11:27 PM »
How much is this now?  :)

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #2 on: Apr 04, 2006 at 10:33 AM »
Sana sinama nila ang HK.
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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #3 on: Apr 04, 2006 at 01:46 PM »
How much is this now?  :)

24k yata. try ambassador appliances.

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #4 on: Apr 04, 2006 at 07:56 PM »
sana nga Hk kasali din but the HK 235 which is at the same price level as the 657 has no component video up conversion and wide choices of DSP. HK will blow these avrs at the power department though.

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #5 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 01:57 AM »
wow..ang daming new items na...hehe..ngayon lang uli ako nakapagpost sa pdvd disscussions ;D ;D

24k is a good price for that new yamaha.. 8) yamaha rin ung current setup dito samin.. 8) great thing about it is ung DSP nila..

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #6 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 02:07 AM »
sana sinama rin ang NAD :(

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #7 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 08:28 AM »
Regarding the NAD, I don't know its price range but the group test was limited to AVRs under 500 pounds.

Yup bago lang ang 657 but out na sa US ang ang rx-v659 with iPod dock, Neural surround, Burr-Brown DAC and Texas Instrument Aureaus DSP chip.
« Last Edit: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:52 PM by atomicat10 »

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #8 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 10:45 PM »
sir atomicat, ano po ba yung Burr-Brown DAC? nakikita ba sa specification kung Burr-Brown gamit nya? or sa site ng yamaha? salamat po...

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #9 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:00 PM »
HERE'S A LINK FOR THE YAMAHA'S NEW 9 SERIES
http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/TIAureusDSPyamahareceivers.php

Burr-Brown Digital to Analog Converter(DAC) is notorious for being very good in terms of giving components musicality.This is a plus for AV receivers since it will definitely stretch its value by giving owners a simpler approach when it comes to Home Theater and Audio solutions. This DAC is not exclusive to Yamaha and pretty soon the Texas Instrument(Ti) Aureaus DSP also will also find its way to other brands(HK, Denon) as well.

The features mentioned are all present in RX-V659 presently along with XM radio options, iPod docking capability etc.

A LINK ON THE TWO COMPANIES MERGER:
http://www.futurlec.com/News/TI/AcqBurrBrown.html
« Last Edit: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:11 PM by atomicat10 »

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #10 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:25 PM »
ahh okay..maraming salamat sir. ang HK din ba naka Burr-Bronw DAC ba?

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #11 on: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:36 PM »
Presently, I'm not really sure but if they're not, basing on some articles I've read, they will be.

Note: Burr-Brown DACS are not the only game in town. There are equally or better performing DACs out there, again I'm basing on what I've read and NOT what I've heard :)
« Last Edit: Apr 05, 2006 at 11:46 PM by atomicat10 »

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #12 on: Apr 07, 2006 at 11:01 AM »
good news!

for those eying this receiver, its on sale sa shanri la.

25% discount on cash sales.

that makes it roughly 22k na lang.....

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #13 on: Apr 07, 2006 at 05:29 PM »
25% sale??? anong store bro?

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #14 on: Apr 09, 2006 at 01:17 AM »
sayang..... sale nga sa sights and sounds (shang) P22,185 na lang price nya, kaya lang last day na mamaya (sunday), 5 days sale lang daw.  sayang talaga... wala akong cash on hand ngayon, di ako nakapagwithraw nung friday.... SAYANGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #15 on: Apr 10, 2006 at 03:20 PM »
just called up sights and sounds, offer is extended until supply lasts.

you're still in luck bossing!

22185 pa rin!

bili na!
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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #16 on: Apr 10, 2006 at 09:16 PM »
or you may control the itch for sometime & wait for the yammy RX-V659, now equipped w/ the renowned Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs for all channels and has more power than the RX-V657 -




    Other RX-V659 Features

    * XM Ready with XM HD Surround Powered by Neural Surround
    * Compatible with iPod Via Optional Yamaha YDS-10
    * Compressed Music Enhancer
    * YPA Sound Optimization
    * On-Screen Display
    * High Sound Quality Circuit Design
    * 7.1-channel, 700W Powerful Surround Sound (100W x 7)
    * Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
    * Pure Direct for High Quality Sound Reproduction
    * Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
    * Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema and Music) and SILENT CINEMA
    * Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0-160ms)
    * Phone Input
    * HDTV Compatible 3 Component Video Inputs
    * Virtual CINEMA DSP
    * Presence Sound Field and Dialogue Lift
    * Preset Remote Unit with Illuminated Input Indicators



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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #17 on: Apr 10, 2006 at 11:20 PM »
sir, yung RX-v659 lang po ba ang naka Burr-Brown DAC at hindi ang 459 and 559?

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #18 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 09:58 AM »
all three 9 series have the burr-brown DAC but only the 559 and 659 have the iPod dock

Sir Knefut pls check PM
« Last Edit: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:04 AM by atomicat10 »

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #19 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:03 AM »
Any idea how much this 9 series would be looks promising.
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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #20 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:05 AM »
will probably start at 30K, with all the iPod craze around

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #21 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:14 AM »
sir boss_na_boss and sir atomicat, pm replied.

yeah, the rxv659 looks promising, so i'm holding on to my cash until lumabas yung new model.

a sale is often an indication that new models will be coming out soon.

OT: i still have to audition a harman kardon 235 though. :)
« Last Edit: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:17 AM by knefut »

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #22 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 10:53 AM »
wow...mukang mas maganda nga to... maybe this is the reason kung bakit may mga "on sale" na 657

heheheh pero magkano nga kaya to?? and kelan kaya lalabas to?

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #23 on: Apr 11, 2006 at 08:40 PM »
sir, yung RX-v659 lang po ba ang naka Burr-Brown DAC at hindi ang 459 and 559?


i think so, hereunder are the pics & specs of the new RX-V459 & RX-V559 and it seems that they do not indicate the presence of the Burr-Brown DAC -




    Other RX-V459 Features

    * XM Ready with XM HD Surround Powered by Neural Surround
    * Compressed Music Enhancer
    * Front Panel Mini Jack for Portable Player Connection
    * Preset Remote Unit with Illuminated Input Indicators
    * Selectable 9-Subwoofer Crossover Frequencies / Subwoofer Phase Select
    * 6.1-Channel, 540W Powerful Surround Sound (90W x 6)
    * Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
    * Direct Stereo for High Quality 2-Channel Sound Reproduction
    * 192kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
    * HDTV Compatible 3 Component Video Inputs
    * Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro Logic IIx and DTS 96/24 Compatibility
    * Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA
    * Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 Surround Programs
    * Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0–160ms)
    * High Dynamic Power and Linear Damping
    * Wide-Range Audio Frequency Response for DVD-Audio/Super Audio CD Compatibility
    * Subwoofer Phase Select
    * 3 Digital Inputs: 2 Optical and 1 Coaxial (Fixed and Assignable)
    * Speaker A, B or A+B Selection (Front L/R)
    * Front Panel Video Aux Terminals
    * Virtual CINEMA DSP
    * Preset Remote Unit with Illuminated Input Indicators







    Other RX-V559 Features

    * XM Ready with XM HD Surround Powered by Neural Surround
    * Compatible with iPod Via Optional Yamaha YDS-10
    * Compressed Music Enhancer
    * Front Panel Mini Jack for Portable Player Connection
    * On-Screen Display
    * 6.1-Channel, 570W Powerful Surround Sound (95W x 6)
    * Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
    * Direct Stereo for High Quality 2-Channel Sound Reproduction
    * 192kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
    * HDTV Compatible 3 Component Video Inputs
    * Component Video Up-Conversion
    * Digital Video Processing with TBC (Time Base Corrector)
    * Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 Surround Programs
    * Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA
    * Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0–160ms)
    * Front Panel Mini Jack for Portable Players Connection
    * Front Panel Video AUX Terminals
    * Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema and Music) and SILENT CINEMA
    * Audio Delay for Adjusting Lip-Sync (0-160ms)
    * Preset Remote Unit with Illuminated Input Indicators



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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #24 on: Apr 21, 2006 at 09:59 AM »
What does this means "Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification"?
Especiall the High Current Amplification
« Last Edit: Apr 21, 2006 at 10:02 AM by newbie pa rin »
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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #25 on: Apr 21, 2006 at 10:53 PM »
High current amplification refers to an amplifier's ability to deliver sufficient power despite drastic reduction in impedance loads.

When impedance load is halved, the ideal situation is that power output should double.  High current amplifiers can handle lower impedances with ease.  Low current amps will have difficulty coping with the higher power demand of lower impedances.  Insufficient power output causes distortion, and the amp should automatically shut down for its own protection.

Yamaha's "ToP-ART" means "Total Purity Audio Reproduction Technology".  It's the name Yamaha has given to its design philopsophy.  The ToP-ART design philosophy's goal is to produce more natural sound by using better chassis insulation, the shortest possible signal path, and better internal wiring.  Simply stated  --   the purer the signal, the more natural the sound; and the more natural, the better.
   
"Digital ToP-ART" refers to the application of ToP-ART design philosophy to digital sound reproduction.   



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I wouldn't pay too much attention to "ToP-ART" and "Digital ToP-Art".  Those terms probably came from Yamaha's marketing department, not from its engineering team.   ;D

Magaling ang marketing nila, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  Thanks to mass-market companies like Yamaha, we get good products at low prices.

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2006 at 01:23 AM »
any news? :)

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Re: YAMAHA RX-V657 GROUP TEST WINNER BY AVReview.CO.UK
« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2006 at 02:26 PM »
any news? :)


sir ronjet, mukhang kating-kati ka na sa 659 ah ;D ;D ;D