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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #240 on: Sep 16, 2005 at 06:17 PM »
Wow this powerful beast has 400GB hard drive!  :o

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #241 on: Sep 19, 2005 at 03:34 PM »
Pre, does the model comes bundled with the sampler ?

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Not sure, di pa kasi available dito. Sana nga merong kasamang demo disc.  Pero, wala akong balak bilhin ito dahil Im targetting PS3 para sa blu-ray playback which definitely merong sampler.


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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #242 on: Sep 28, 2005 at 06:45 PM »
Intel, Microsoft endorse HD-DVD
Deal means the Xbox 360-maker will not support the format used by the PlayStation 3.

Intel and Microsoft are combining their industry power in an attempt to make the HD-DVD format the victor in a battle over a standard to succeed DVD.


Typical DVDs today can hold 4.7GB of information, but two dueling camps are trying to establish a larger-capacity format that will allow for the recording of high-definition television and the backing up of more data. HD DVD, supported by a Toshiba-led consortium, is up against Blu-ray Disc, which is backed by Sony and others, including the two biggest personal-computer manufacturers, Dell and Hewlett-Packard.

Intel and Microsoft believe weighing in on the HD-DVD side will be enough to tip the balance. "We have a high expectation of having a single format, and that format is HD DVD," said Intel spokesman Bill Kircos.

There are several reasons the two companies went with HD DVD, said Richard Doherty, Microsoft's program manager for media entertainment convergence. Among them: HD-DVD requires that movies be copied to a consumer's hard drive, making it easier for people to send movies around home networks; the format supports regular DVD recordings on the flip side of the disc, letting people sell hybrid discs to consumers who have DVD players today but fear their discs will be obsolete.

"This announcement does little to shift the momentum that's been building for Blu-ray Disc," said Marty Gordon, vice president of Blu-ray backer Philips Electrics. "It has dramatically more support from the consumer electronics industry, the PC manufacturers and the games hardware manufacturing side, as well as strong support from movie studios, music companies and game software developers."

Blu-ray allies expect to launch their products in the spring, Gordon said, including support for both 25GB and dual-layer 50GB. HD-DVD starts at 15GB, but Toshiba last week announced a 30GB dual-layer disc. Toshiba plans to launch the first HD-DVD drives in Japan this year and worldwide in the first quarter of 2006, Doherty said.

The two camps have held talks to unify their formats, but so far to no avail, and time is running short, with products from both camps scheduled to ship in the next few months.

If the sides don't come together, a host of problems ensue: Consumers will have to make sure a rented movie or purchased video game is compatible with their drives and players; movie studios, video game manufacturers and video rental stores will have to stock multiple versions of movies; dual-format drives that bridge the format gap will cost more; and neither standard is likely to catch on as fast as if the industry had coalesced.

It's similar to the classic war over videotape formats, VHS vs. Beta, and a smaller skirmish that broke out more recently for rewritable DVDs: DVD-RW versus DVD+RW.

Even at this late stage, it's possible there could be a resolution. "We're very hopeful you could see a unified standard," Gordon said. "It has to be a format that offers the best of both worlds," though, and the Blu-ray camp isn't willing to yield on the capacity issue.

Microsoft also hoped for a resolution, but didn't see one as likely. "We're of the opinion that a unified format would be far preferable. But what was keeping us from the game was our hope for a long time for that to occur," Doherty said.

Gordon said that several of the advantages Microsoft and Intel cite for HD-DVD aren't valid. In particular, he said, 50GB Blu-ray drives are scheduled to ship this spring, with much more capacity than HD DVD's 30GB. And the managed copy feature that permits movies to be transferred to hard drives isn't "a key differentiating feature" of HD-DVD because Blu-ray employs the same Advanced Access Content System (AACS) content control technology, he said.

Both sides have support from major computing, consumer electronics and entertainment companies.

Besides Sony, Dell and HP, Blu-ray allies include Apple Computer, Electronic Arts, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sun Microsystems, Twentieth Century Fox, Vivendi Universal and Walt Disney.

HD-DVD backers include HBO, NEC, New Line Cinema Paramount Home Entertainment, Sanyo, Toshiba, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and Warner Home Video.

The divide splits Intel and Microsoft from some of their biggest customers, though. Dell couldn't be reached for comment immediately, but HP isn't changing course.

"HP remains committed to the Blu-ray Disc format because of larger storage capacity, broad industry support and the inherent compatibility that the recording format provides to our customers," the company said in a statement. "HP believes that this announcement from Microsoft and Intel is inconsequential for consumers because they do not deliver products into the marketplace (with a few minor exceptions)."

Blu-Ray has had problems delivering on its promises, though, Doherty said. "The 50GB Blu-ray disc is nowhere in sight. For now, HD-DVD is the capacity leader. And with the hybrid disc, again Blu-ray had a specification, but no actual implementation anywhere in sight."

That issue could cause PC makers to change their minds. "A year and a half ago, they had a really good situation," Doherty said. "Now the playing field has changed."

By Stephen Shankland -- News.com
POSTED: 09/27/05 05:38 PM PST

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #243 on: Oct 05, 2005 at 10:11 AM »
Microsoft/Intel Cite Inaccuracies Regarding Blu-ray Disc Format

PALO ALTO, Calif. and AUSTIN, Texas, September 29 - Worldwide computer leaders and Blu-ray Disc Association members, Dell, and Hewlett Packard, today addressed the inaccurate information cited by Microsoft and Intel regarding the Blu-ray Disc format.

"From a PC end-user perspective, Blu-ray is a superior format. It offers 67-150% more storage capacity, higher transfer rates, slim-line notebook compatibility, broadband connectivity and a proven interactive layer with BD- Java(TM)," said Maureen Weber, General Manager of Hewlett Packard's Personal Storage Business. "The technical merits and consumer benefits of Blu-ray Disc make it the ideal solution for HP's customers."

Virtually every computer company that has expressed a preference for a high definition disc format has chosen Blu-ray Disc as the superior format for computer platforms and applications. Top-tier computer brands supporting Blu- ray Disc include, among others, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Panasonic, Sony and LG.

"Every computer manufacturer in the BDA carefully reviewed both formats and ultimately chose Blu-ray as the superior solution for meeting customer demands and providing the best possible end-user experience," said Weber. "It is surprising that Tuesday's announcement is not aligned with that of the vast majority of the computer industry and is contrary to our consumer research."

Microsoft and Intel's announcement erroneously indicates that HD-DVD has an advantage in a number of areas. To set the record straight, here are the facts:

Capacity: Blu-ray Disc's capacity is 50GB. This will be available at launch for BD-ROM, BD-R, and BD-RE. This is 67% more than HD-DVD's 30GB ROM capacity and 150% more than its recordable storage capacity -- a critical issue for computer users.

Managed copy: Managed Copy is not a function of the optical disc format, but a function of the content protection system. The AACS content protection system, which is used by both Blu-ray Disc and HD-DVD, enables managed copy and network streaming functionality. It is not format specific.

Hybrid Disc: Blu-ray Disc was the first format to introduce a hybrid disc that could hold both high and standard definition versions of a movie on a single disc. The Blu-ray Hybrid Disc is the more elegant solution as it holds both versions of the film on the same side of the disc, which provides for easy labeling and greater ease of use for consumers.

Backward Compatibility: Blu-ray Disc players and recorders can and will support DVDs through the addition of red lasers in the hardware. In order to be backward compatible with DVD, HD-DVD must also include a red laser.

Interactivity: Blu-ray disc is built on BD-Java(TM), which leverages years of industry investment and experience in the set-top box, PC, and cell phone industries. BD-JavaTM provides a mature, robust platform for authoring and delivering unprecedented interactive capabilities to the user for movies, music, and games. BD-Java was selected over iHD, the developmental Microsoft technology used in HD-DVD. The BDA carefully compared both iHD and BD-J, and concluded that iHD didn't go far enough in providing a compelling feature set beyond DVD, while BD-J offered studios a much richer palette for providing a compelling interactive HD experience for consumers, particularly when a player is connected to a network.

"We are actively engaged with our customers who continue to tell us that features such as capacity, advanced interactivity, and industry wide support are of utmost importance when considering new optical solutions," said Kevin Kettler, Chief Technology Officer, Dell, Inc. "Based on this feedback and a comparison of the two formats, Dell has no doubt that Blu-ray Disc best meets the needs of computer users and provides the type of open industry standards needed to drive innovation and growth of the format across all platforms -- consumer electronic, personal computers and gaming consoles."

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #244 on: Oct 05, 2005 at 10:59 AM »

Toshiba's Latest Round of HD-DVD Woes


In what appears to be a double play on Toshiba this week, Reuters reported that Paramount has officially backed Blu-ray Disc (joining Apple, HP and Dell), while Toshiba found out it must pay nearly a half-beeeellion dollars to Lexmark in an intellectual property lawsuit.

Ouch. That's gotta hurt.

Jumping Ship - Paramount Endorses Blu-ray Disc
Let's examine the first issue... It's no surprise that last week held quite a bit of spin-doctoring from both parties, with Microsoft throwing it's intellectual weight behind the HD-DVD camp in defense of their spec and the apparent "vaporware" of some of Sony's Blu-ray disc storage claims. At the same time Paramount, a Viacom company, said it would release high-definition movies in the Blu-ray format (previously it had stated that it would release titles in the competing HD-DVD format). You can see how this apparent "jump-ship" would cause some concern for the Toshiba-backed camp. I mean, after all Paramount is no small studio and its willingness to embrace the competition is a pretty big hit. The question at this point is whether Paramount's goal is to release titles in both formats or if it is leaning more into the Sony-backed camp.

According to Reuters, in a statement released late Sunday, Paramount threw its weight strongly behind the Blu-ray camp but failed to mention HD-DVD at all. "After more detailed assessment and new data on cost, manufacturability and copy protection solutions, we have now made the decision to move ahead with the Blu-ray format," Thomas Lesinski, President of Paramount Pictures, said in the release.

Toshiba quickly scrambled to state that it "believes" Paramount continues to back HD-DVD, but that belief is based solely on prior comments made by Paramount officials in earlier press releases.

For what it's worth, the Sony Playstation 3 appeared to be one of the motivating factors behind Paramount's decision to board the Blu-ray bus. I guess that having a large initial launch of capable hardware is a compeling motivator for a studio looking to see that its investment in software has a sufficient launching platform.

Here's how the scorecard looks at present:

Blu-ray Disc

Paramount
Sony Pictures Entertainment
The Walt Disney Co.
Twentieth Century Fox
HD-DVD

Universal Studios
NBC Universal
Warner Brothers
Keep in mind that neither Paramount, Disney, or Fox have ruled out the possibility of also releasing titles on HD-DVD as well.

Go Directly to Bank - Do Not Pass Go
Losing one of your exclusive HD-DVD supporters is bad enough... Getting slammed with a $465 million punitive damages fine is enough to make you want to... well, you get the idea. In March of this year, Toshiba was ordered to pay Lexar $465 million in punitive damages after a jury in California found Toshiba had stolen Lexar trade secrets related to SanDisk flash memory. Toshiba held some hope that an appeal would change that ruling, but last Friday a California judge ruled that the jury's verdict stands and Toshiba must cough up the almost half-billion dollars. Needless to say, shares of Lexar stock jumped almost 10%.

Will this string of disasters spell the end of HD-DVD? Not likely. In fact, as the technology gets close to release the competition will only heat up, as will the spin. Keep your eyes peeled for more flaming rhetoric and technical gymnastics as each format tries to get a leg up while decrying the failings of its opposition.

To quote Highlander: "There can be only one."

- by Clint DeBoer


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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #245 on: Oct 07, 2005 at 08:00 PM »
In the Philippines the answer has to be a big, loud "YES!" Until now none of the local TV stations, cable operators, satellite providers have provide HD broadcasts but the announcement of these next generation consoles gives a very compeling reason to upgrade. Another reason to get a HD displays is the introduction of the Blu-ray and HD DVD formats that deliver HD content on easily produced optical media.

I took the time out to compare and contrast between the Xbox 360 & PS3 and I came to to this conclusion.

Xbox 360 has a CPU FPS of 45 GFlops*
PS3 has a CPU FPS of 218 GFlops

Xbox 360 has a GPU FPS of around 955 GFlops**
PS3 has a GPU FPS of 1.8TFlops

Xbox 360 has a combined FPS of 1TFlops
PS3 has a combined FPS of 2TFlops

Xbox 360 has a DVD-ROM
PS3 has a BD-ROM

Xbox 360 is WiFi ready
PS3 is WiFi built-in

Xbox 360 has 3 x USB 2.0 ports
PS3 has 6 x USB 2.0 ports

Xbox 360 has support for 4 wireless controllers
PS3 has support for 7 wireless (Bluetooth) controllers

Xbox 360 uses Memory Units
PS3 uses MS Standard/Duo/Pro, SD standard/mini & Compact Flash Type I/II

Xbox 360 has support for select Xbox1 games
PS3 has support for PS1 & PS2 games

Xbox 360 has support for 1 720p & 1080i display
PS3 has support for 2 480p, 720p, 1080i & 1080p displays

Note:
* Derived from CPU Game Math Performance of 9 billion dot product operations per second
** Derived from subtracting published Overall System Floating-Point Performance of 1TFlops with derived from CPU Game Math Performance of 9 billion dot product operations per second

Source:
IGN's PS3 Tech Specs
Official Xbox 360 Fact Sheet
Formula for Dot Product Operations Per Second to GFlops

If I were to pick between the two I'd go with the PS3 because it has a BD-ROM drive that could play BD video.


Ill get them both.... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #246 on: Oct 08, 2005 at 08:03 AM »

Ill get them both.... ;D ;D ;D

If you have the $$$ why not? There will be no more arguing of which console to buy  :P Most likely majority will choose over PS3 due to its BD-ROM drive

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #247 on: Oct 19, 2005 at 01:35 PM »
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http://www.dvdexclusive.com/article.asp?articleID=2372&categoryID=

This seems to be old news already, but I thought I'd post it for the information of everyone interested.   If anyone has an update on this, pls confirm.  Thanks.

SAMSUNG BRIDGES HIGH-DEF GAP
Promises dual-format player for Blu-ray and HD DVD
By Paul Sweeting  9/9/2005 

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With a marketplace format war looming, Blu-ray Disc Assn. board member Samsung Electronics said last week that it would hedge its bets by introducing a dual-format player next year that can read both Blu-ray and HD DVD discs.

The announcement was a first for a major hardware maker from either high-definition camp and echoed the growing unease throughout the industry over the contentious transition from standard to high-def video discs.

"We would welcome a unified standard, but if it doesn't come, which looks likely, we'll bring a unified solution to market," Samsung consumer electronics division president Choi Gee-sung said in an interview with the German edition of the Financial Times. "It won't be simple, but you'll see our solution in the coming year. Consumers will be too confused otherwise."

In a separate sign of friction, European replicators said last month they're concerned about being gouged on patent royalties by both sides in the format battle and filed a complaint with European Commission's anti-trust division.

Although speculation about a dual-standard player has been rife for months, the announcement from Samsung was seen as a blow to the Blu-ray camp, which had counted the Korean giant among its key supporters.

One of Blu-ray's key selling points in the contest for studio affections has been the support of an overwhelming majority of consumer electronics makers.

Among the Blu-ray Disc Assn.'s 140-member companies are such prominent hardware names as Sony, Pioneer, Panasonic, Philips, Sharp, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Mitsubishi, Thomson and, of course, Samsung.

By contrast, HD DVD's hardware support comes primarily from three companies: Toshiba, NEC Corp. and Sanyo.

Should other companies start hedging their bets, however, some of BDA's advantage could be lost.

BDA officials offered no response to Samsung's announcement.

Just how practical Samsung's plans for a dual-format player are is unclear.

Blu-ray and HD DVD rely on different optical elements, which would likely mean a dual-format player would need two separate optical assemblies, adding significantly to the cost.

It's also unclear how licensing terms for the rival technologies would apply--if at all--in the case of a dual-format player.

One possibility is that Samsung meant its comments to put pressure on the two camps to renew unification talks, which have been dormant for several months.

Samsung officials in the U.S. did not return calls for comment.

Licensing terms also were the focus of the replicators' concern.

Officially, the complaint dealt with royalty rates for standard DVDs, which replicators complain have stayed high, even as the price for pressed discs has fallen sharply.

But in comments to the European media, Guy Marriott, head of the Geneva-based International Optical Disc Replicators Assn., made it clear that the group has its eye on the next-generation formats.

"There will be new formats coming, and we feel it's important that a line should be drawn in the sand by regulators," Marriott told Reuters in Brussels.
The complaint alleges that the three patent pools for standard DVD--DVD6C, DVD3C and MPEG-LA--discriminate in the licensing fees they charge, in violation of European Union competition laws.

Through various cross-licensing arrangements, companies directly involved in the patent pools are exempt from many of the royalties charges that others must pay to manufacture DVD players and discs.

The replicators also allege that they are forced to pay royalties for patents that are not actually used in pressing prerecorded discs.

While the licensing terms for HD DVD and Blu-ray, along with their respective copy-protection schemes, have not yet been fully revealed, the eventual patent fees are considered the main prize in the format war.

That has IODRA members nervous about being the object of plunder.

"The time is right to put down some markers to say how these new technologies should be licensed," Marriott said.

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #248 on: Nov 23, 2005 at 12:04 PM »
Sony Pictures has finally authored it's first Blu-Ray title. You'd think that the 1st title to be released would at least be a great movie...and what's the 1st Blu-Ray authored you may ask? Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle. Sana man lang Lawrence of Arabia. Oh well!!! ;D
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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #249 on: Jan 04, 2006 at 06:52 PM »
Here comes the Blu-ray and HD DVD content; studios announce first wave of titles for the high-definition platforms.

Press release; Michael McManus, DigiTimes.com [Wednesday 4 January 2006]

With Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD devices expected to hit the market this year, several movie studios have announced which movie titles will be initially launched for use with players supporting the next-generation high-definition platforms.

Paramount Pictures will release titles for both formats, while Twentieth Century Fox and Sony Pictures will release Blu-ray titles only, with Blu-ray sponsor Sony having the most aggressive plans for providing content this year.

Paramount Pictures Home Entertainment announced its upcoming slate of 10 titles for launch on both the Blu-ray and HD DVD platforms. Among the titles to be released are Four Brothers, Sahara, Aeon Flux, Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow, The Italian Job, Tomb Raider, the music documentary U2: Rattle and Hum and Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow. The ten title launch slate also includes We Were Soldiers and Manchurian Candidate.

Paramount stated it will continue to roll out Blu-ray and HD DVD titles throughout 2006 and beyond, including its series of three Mission Impossible movies.

Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment also announced its first wave of 20 feature films for the Blu-ray platform. The initial titles in development include Fantastic Four, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Behind Enemy Lines, Kiss of the Dragon and the CGI-animated comedy Ice Age.

The company plans for the debut of its initial line-up of Blu-ray titles to coincide with the Blu-ray hardware launches in North America, Japan and Europe in 2006.

Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE), in conjunction with MGM Home Entertainment, will also release 20 Blu-ray titles. The list of titles include The Fifth Element, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Desperado, For a Few Dollars More, The Guns of Navarone, Hitch, House of Flying Daggers, A Knight's Tale, Kung Fu Hustle, The Last Waltz, Legends of the Fall, Resident Evil Apocalypse, Robocop, Sense and Sensibility, Stealth, Species, SWAT and XXX.

Black Hawk Down and The Bridge on the River Kwai will also be available on 50GB dual-layer Blu-ray discs this summer.

Starting this summer, SPHE will also deliver four catalog titles per month, accelerating to 10 titles per month by the fourth quarter of 2006. Also being readied for summer release is the complete television series of sci-fi favorite Stargate Atlantis.

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #250 on: Jan 04, 2006 at 06:59 PM »
Broadcom Announces First Fully Compliant High-Definition Decoder Chip for Blu-ray(TM) Disc and HD DVD(TM) Media Players

Tuesday January 3, 8:00 am ET 

New HD Decoder Chip is Based on Field-Proven Technology Developed for High-Definition Set-Top Boxes for Cable, Satellite and IPTV Applications

Full story: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060103/nytu115.html?.v=38

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #251 on: Jan 04, 2006 at 07:05 PM »
Remember the Betamax. The smart money will wait out the standards war before buying a high-definition DVD player.
By Peter H Lewis, FORTUNE senior editor

NEW YORK (FORTUNE) - If you were lucky enough to get a fancy HDTV set, you're probably eager for a high-definition DVD player to go with it.

But remember the Betamax! A standards war in DVD players and recorders has the potential to render some of the first players obsolete.

Today's DVD players and recorders are based on red lasers, which read and write millions of little digital data pits on those shiny DVD discs. But the sun is setting on red-laser DVDs, because the relatively long wavelength of the red laser limits the capacity of a standard-size DVD disc, just as the world is making the transition to high-definition movies and television.

Blue lasers have a shorter wavelength, and thus can read and write much more data on the same-size DVD disc -- nearly 50 gigabytes on one type of double-layer blue-laser disc, more than enough for playing back a high-def movie or recording two or more hours of a high-def TV show.

Don't be a casualty of the standards war
Pioneer just announced that it will start selling blue-laser DVD drives for computers in Japan in just a few weeks, and in the United States by summer, making it the first to offer mass-market HD-capable DVD players and recorders to the public. Most of the major movie studios have promised to have a selection of high-definition DVD movies available when the new drives arrive.

It will take years for blue-laser DVDs to completely replace red-laser DVDs at your local Blockbuster, but as the world inexorably moves toward a high-definition future, red laser players are headed for obsolescence.

The big problem is that two rival camps are competing to set the standards for blue-laser DVDs, and, just like earlier format wars -- Betamax versus VHS, Windows versus Mac, XM versus Sirius satellite radio, et cetera -- the two formats, known as Blu-ray and HD DVD, are incompatible.

A majority of major movie studios and many of the world's leading consumer electronics companies are backing the Blu-ray camp, led by Sony. The new Pioneer computer drives are based on the Blu-ray format.

Toshiba and NEC are leading the charge for the HD DVD format, and its backers include Warner Bros., HBO and New Line (like FORTUNE and CNNMoney, all divisions of Time Warner), as well as the dynamic PC duo of Microsoft and Intel.

A number of consumer electronics, computer and entertainment companies are supporting both formats for now, hedging their bets until a clear winner emerges.

At this writing, the oddsmakers favor Blu-ray, in part because Blu-ray appears to have superior technical specifications and now has a head start over HD DVD in the race to market.

Blu-ray has a greater theoretical capacity than HD DVD (50GB versus 30GB for double-layer discs, as against 9GB for current red-laser DVDs), and Sony has said it will include a Blu-ray DVD drive in its forthcoming PlayStation 3 entertainment console, which, if the PS3 is as successful as the PS2, could populate the world with millions of Blu-ray DVD players and sway any holdout movie studios to the format.

On the other hand, HD DVD supporters say their format makes it easier and cheaper to manufacture drives that are compatible with previous DVD and CD formats, lessening the cost and disruption of moving to a new HD format.

That's particularly important in the cut-throat PC business, and one reason Microsoft, Intel and HP have aligned with the HD DVD camp. (Apple and Dell, the world's largest PC maker, appear solidly in the Blu-ray camp.)

Microsoft is building HD DVD support into its next-generation version of Windows, called Vista, and presumably it wants HD DVD drives to be available for computers when Vista rolls out later this year. We can expect to see HD DVD players and recorders for home entertainment systems appear in stores and in PCs in 2006, although the timing is unclear at this writing.

The bottom line
If you're not a big movie buff, and are happy with the quality of current prerecorded DVD movies, and if current generations of CD and DVD are sufficient for your backup and data transfer needs, sit tight.

The first blue-laser drives are certain to be expensive. Early adopters can expect to pay $1,000 or more for player-recorders, just as they did when red-laser DVD players were new. But today, basic DVD players are selling for as little as $30.

Think twice before buying the current DVD version of your favorite movie. Once you see the same movie in high-definition, your old DVD will look just as appealing as an old VHS tape.

And remember, blue-laser DVDs will be obsolete someday, too. I'm betting on high-definition video-on-demand services, 100-megabit Internet pipelines and terabyte-size home media servers to make physical DVD players largely irrelevant within a decade.


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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #252 on: Jan 05, 2006 at 05:37 PM »
nice article paul...

the future is here already... just visited Amazon.com and was surprised to see that they already have an
HD-DVD section!  :o

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #253 on: Jan 05, 2006 at 09:58 PM »
O nga ya...The Toshiba HD-DVD player will be selling at US$499 (about P27k) & by the time it reaches in Phil will definitely over the 30k mark :(  Will wait for a while until the dust settle. Looking forward to PS3 with Blu-Ray capability. Hopefully, Amazon will have a Blu-Ray section too soon  :D

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #254 on: Jan 05, 2006 at 10:13 PM »
Toshiba to sell high-definition players in US

TOKYO: Japanese electronics maker Toshiba Corp. said Thursday it will sell the high-definition player supporting its HD DVD format in the United States in March _ the first commercial launch of the product in the world.

The new HD DVD players - HD-XA1 and HD-A1, priced at US$799 (euro673) and US$499 (euro420) each, will hit the U.S. market in March - the first high-definition player commercialised in the world, the company said in a release.

Toshiba's move will heat up the battle in the high-stakes market for the next generation of video discs.

The HD DVD format, jointly developed by another Japanese electronics maker NEC Corp., is incompatible with its main competitor, the Blu-ray disc, which is backed by Sony Corp.

Both formats deliver dazzling images in high-definition video and can store much more data that today's DVDs, allowing for more interactive features, like enjoying a movie while simoultaneously watching the director discuss the scene.

Through extensive discussions and cooperation with major Hollywood studios, major retailers and other interested parties, Toshiba has "closely investigated the optimum launch date'' for the HD DVDs in the United States, the company said.

Toshiba said it has decided on the U.S. launch date of March, when major Hollywood studios are expected to unveil HD DVD movie titles.

"Going forward, HD DVD is destined to be a key driver for progress and the development of the consumer electronics, IT and entertainment industries,'' Yoshihide Fujii, Toshiba's corporate senior vice president and president of digital medial network company, said.

More details of the HD-XA1 and HD-X1 were to be shown at the Consumer Electronics Show, which opened in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Wednesday, Toshiba said.

The HD DVD is supported by Universal Studios, Warner Bros. and Intel Corp., as well as Microsoft Corp., which hopes its new Xbox 360 video game console will challenge the longtime dominance of Sony's PlayStation.

Blu-ray is backed by Apple Computer Inc., Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Inc., along with a variety of other tech companies and studios.

Toshiba spokeswoman Hiroko Mochida said the company has not yet set a date on when to sell the new HD DVD players in Japan, pending a copy protection issue.

Sony's Blu-ray video recorders are already on sale in Japan, and the Sony PlayStation 3 video-game console, which backs Blu-ray, is set to go on sale this spring. 

But it isn't clear when Blu-ray players and other models will be available. - AP


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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #255 on: Jan 05, 2006 at 11:17 PM »
nice article paul...

the future is here already... just visited Amazon.com and was surprised to see that they already have an
HD-DVD section!  :o

The future is here!

Amazon HD DVD Store
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Quo vadis?

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #256 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 12:26 AM »
check out their upcoming titles line up:
 
  U2 - Rattle & Hum [HD DVD] 
  The Italian Job (2003) [HD DVD] 
  Four Brothers [HD DVD] 
  Lara Croft: Tomb Raider [HD DVD] 
  Sahara [HD DVD] 
  Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow [HD DVD] 
  Aeon Flux (2005) [HD DVD] 
  The Manchurian Candidate (2004) [HD DVD] 
  Braveheart [HD DVD] 
  The Ultimate Star Trek Movie Collection [HD DVD] 
  The Bourne Supremacy [HD DVD] 
  We Were Soldiers [HD DVD] 
  Band of Brothers [HD DVD] 
  Seven [HD DVD] 
  The Lord of the Rings Trilogy [HD DVD] 
  Batman Begins [HD DVD] 
  Friends [HD DVD] 
  Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire [HD DVD] 
  Terminator 3 [HD DVD] 
  The Aviator [HD DVD] 
  The Matrix Trilogy [HD DVD] 

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #257 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 11:18 AM »
Good idea jeckjeck to list out all HD tittles. Pls update as new list make available  :)

Blu-ray:

Four Brothers
Sahara
Aeon Flux
Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow
The Italian Job
Tomb Raider
Music documentary U2: Rattle and Hum
Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow.
We Were Soldiers
Manchurian Candidate.
Fantastic Four
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Behind Enemy Lines
Kiss of the Dragon
Ice Age.
The Fifth Element
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Desperado
For a Few Dollars More
The Guns of Navarone
Hitch
House of Flying Daggers
A Knight's Tale
Kung Fu Hustle
The Last Waltz
Legends of the Fall
Resident Evil Apocalypse
Robocop
Sense and Sensibility
Stealth
Species
SWAT
XXX.
Black Hawk Down
The Bridge on the River Kwai

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #258 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 01:17 PM »
Samsung to launch Blu-ray DVD player in U.S. in spring

(Kyodo) _ South Korea's Samsung Electronics Co. said Thursday it will market a next-generation DVD player based on the Blu-ray disc format in the United States this spring.
A group led by Sony Corp. developed the Blu-ray format. The Japanese consumer electronics firm plans to launch its own Blu-ray player this summer.

At the opening of the 2006 International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Samsung said it plans to sell the DVD player for about $1,000.

The price tag is considerably higher than prices planned for DVD players compatible with the rival HD-DVD format.

On Wednesday, Toshiba Corp. said it will begin selling two HD-DVD players for about $800 and $500, respectively, in North America in March. 

 

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #259 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 01:22 PM »
Sony to Sell Blu-ray Players 3 Months Behind Toshiba

Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp., the world's second-biggest consumer electronics maker, will begin selling Blu-ray DVD players in the U.S. this summer, about three months after models using Toshiba Corp.'s high-definition format go on sale.

Blu-ray technology offers better picture quality and can store more data than standard DVDs, Sony said at a presentation in Las Vegas, where the Consumer Electronics Show starts today. It didn't disclose a price. Toshiba, Japan's fourth-biggest maker of electronics, will sell its HD DVD machines for about $500 and $800 from March, spokesman Mark Knox said in an interview.

Full news: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=aRwuFyvmwa.o#

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #260 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 01:50 PM »
Looks like we'll have a repeat of the Beta-VHS wars.  This time, there may not be any clear winner, as both camps seem to have strong marketing arsenal.

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #261 on: Jan 06, 2006 at 07:14 PM »
Yep history is repeating itself. Many giant corporations are supporting BD...place your bet! This will be one intense format war!  Samsung intends to design a player with both formats. If that really happen...whoa Samsung will have hit the big time jackpot?   ;D

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #262 on: Jan 07, 2006 at 11:43 AM »
Blu-Ray Backers Sony And Dell Claim Upper Hand Vs. HD DVD

Companies at the Consumer Electronics Show that back the Blu-ray Disc format for high-definition video discs downplayed rival format HD DVD's chances of winning in the battle to succeed today's standard-definition DVD format.

Blu-ray Disc has the upper hand because of its deep support from manufacturers and content suppliers, Dell contends. A Format That 'Dazzles'

"Six months ago, there was a format war, but I'm not sure there is one anymore," Dell told reporters at the CES in Las Vegas on Thursday. "We've seen the vast majority of the content guys go to Blu-ray."

Full news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20060107/bs_ibd_ibd/200616tech01

Go BD go BD!  ;D
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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #263 on: Jan 07, 2006 at 12:24 PM »
http://www.blu-ray.com/

am I too late to post this link?   :)   All the news are here though.

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #264 on: Jan 07, 2006 at 02:51 PM »
News - HD DVD demo at CES Las Vegas!

Rivals Seek Entry in HD DVD Player Market


By GARY GENTILE
The Associated Press
Friday, January 6, 2006; 9:01 PM


LAS VEGAS -- It was supposed to be the grand unveiling of a new generation in home entertainment when Kevin Collins of Microsoft Corp. popped an HD DVD disc into a Toshiba production model and hit "play." Nothing happened.

The failed product demo at this week's International Consumer Electronics Show was hardly an auspicious start for the HD DVD camp in what's promising to be a nasty, drawn-out technology format war reminiscent of the Betamax/VHS video tape battle. xxx

 ;D Full text: http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/battle-of-hd-dvd-formats-about-to-begin/2006/01/07/1136387651217.html


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Let's face it: DVDs and DVD players are now so cheap that Hollywood and the electronics manufacturers are desperate for a new round of upgrades to revitalize their shrinking profit margins. 


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For fanboys who still can't decide between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD:

Blue Ray and HD DVD vs Holographic Storage    
Could Holographic Storage Represent the Future of Digital Media Recording?

11/29/2005 by Tim Bajarin

Could Blue Ray and HD DVD already be obsolete technology? That is the proposed claim in a recent article in Game Daily Biz. It gives an interesting overview of new holographic storage solutions coming from at least two companies that suggests that this new storage medium is faster, has more capacity and could eventually be cheaper for the customer. xxx

Full text: http://www.technologypundits.com/index.php?article_id=239



HVD: the disc for UHDV content!        http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci932318,00.html
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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #265 on: Jan 07, 2006 at 07:32 PM »
What a big embarrassment for the HD DVD camp!  :P

Very interesting on the Holographic Storage HVD. Hmm...while the current two formats fighting over toes & nails....quietly another new format creeping from behind & emerge as the winner?  :D   

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #266 on: Jan 07, 2006 at 10:34 PM »
very interesting indeed for UHDV. "16 times as many pixels as HDTV" , "4000 scanned horizontal lines per frame. This compares with 1000 lines per frame in HDTV images, and 625 lines per frame in conventional analog TV broadcasts" , "18 minutes of UHDV programming requires approximately 3.5 terabytes of disk space"  :o

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #267 on: Jan 08, 2006 at 04:30 PM »
Bad news for BD :(

HD DVD: Blu-ray Has Problems By Aaron Dobbins, BetaNews January 7, 2006

Having finished speaking to Blu-ray, BetaNews sat down with a representative from HD DVD to discuss how the Microsoft-backed format will compete with Blu-ray. Toshiba HD DVD expert Mark Knox gave a thorough explanation of the optical disc drive technology, and said that because of Blu-ray's complicated design, HD DVD will triumph in the format war.

Blu-ray's difficulties, Knox explained, begin with the technology itself, and the idea that its 50GB dual-layer capacity is superior to HD DVD's 30GB. Through the use of better codec technology, such space is not actually needed for high-definition movies. In fact, Blu-ray admitted to BetaNews that most discs won't go beyond the 25GB mark.

Full news: http://www.betanews.com/article/HD_DVD_Bluray_Has_Problems/1136673259


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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #268 on: Jan 12, 2006 at 05:47 PM »
Analyst declares Blu-ray the winner

HALF MOON BAY, Calif. — While the battle is far from over in the next-generation DVD wars, one analyst predicts that Blu-ray Disc technology will prevail and become the eventual winner.

Full article:
http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=175803569

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Re: DVD-busters: HD-DVD, Blu-ray discs and EVD
« Reply #269 on: Jan 12, 2006 at 06:37 PM »
This was just shown at CES last week.



Pioneer BDP-HD1 Blu-ray Disc player ($1,800) will support DLNA and Microsoft's Play For Sure and have digital output via coax and Toslink optical output plus 6-channel analog and 2-channel stereo. There is an Ethernet jack, but not for streaming out so no digital audio out for that. HDMI output with 1.3 support can output audio and video, Pioneer is working on a receiver to receive this signal. It will upscale to 1080p for normal DVD discs. (from Enjoy the Music)