Topic: ONKYO AVR

[Conan]

Are these features (present on the 709) enough to choose a 709 over a 609?

110w vs 100w power
certified 4ohms performance
Bi-amp capability for front
Pure mode processing
Phono input
HDMI I/O 8/1 vs 6/1
RS-232
IR Input
12V trigger
Learning remote
Activity Based remote
Auto Speaker Calibration W/Mic.       Audyssey MultEQ XT (709) vs Audyssey 2EQ (609)

If you have the budget, for me yes. The certified 4 ohm performance and Audyssey MultEQ XT is worth it.

[lexhd]

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 7. Harware Setup
   - HDMI
     - HDMI Control - Set to Yes
     - Power Control - Yes
     - TV Control - Yes

Now when you turn the receiver off, the yellow "HDMI Thru" light should be illuminated instead of the red - power off indicator. Warning though, when I did this before, the amp would become warm when in HDMI Passthru mode.

it worked!!!!  thank you very much sir!!!!

[fisher135]

does anyone have any experience with onkyo 606? na basa ko kasi after 1 yr ang daming 606 nasisira yung hdmi nya. totoo ba to or lemon lng nakuha nila?

[Onkyo606]

does anyone have any experience with onkyo 606? na basa ko kasi after 1 yr ang daming 606 nasisira yung hdmi nya. totoo ba to or lemon lng nakuha nila?

used to own one but sold it after 8 months only because i replaced it with a different model.

it should have been more than two years and the friend i sold it too has not complained about any issues.

[wengkapre]

Onkyo 606 user here, so far so good naman po sakin, no issues at all 

Sir Tirso, ano po counterpart ng Dolby Digital EX sa DTS? is it DTS Neo:6 Sir? naka 6.1 setup po kasi ako, bale center back po.

tia   

[dj]

Onkyo 606 user here, so far so good naman po sakin, no issues at all 

Sir Tirso, ano po counterpart ng Dolby Digital EX sa DTS? is it DTS Neo:6 Sir? naka 6.1 setup po kasi ako, bale center back po.

tia   

sir i its dts es po counterpart ng ddex. dts neo is the counterpart ng dolby prologic

[wengkapre]

Thanks for the pms Sir Tirso 

sir i its dts es po counterpart ng ddex. dts neo is the counterpart ng dolby prologic

thanks brader too   

[jcsantamarina]

Good day!

I have a noobie question:

What settings do you guys use when watching movies?

I noticed that when I watch movies via my Xtreamer, connected to the Onkyo 509, the sound of the dialogue is a bit nasal and it is very tiring to my ears. I use the DTS/5.1 setting on the Xtreamer. And DTS on the receiver.
When I switched to XBMC using a laptop with HDMI, the sound opened up a bit. But I noticed that the DTS option is gone, instead, I am to choose between Direct and Multichannel. Either of the two produces better sound compared to the DTS setting.

I use a pair of A3's for LR and an A6 for the center.
Thanks in advance!

[Conan]

Good day!

I have a noobie question:

What settings do you guys use when watching movies?

I noticed that when I watch movies via my Xtreamer, connected to the Onkyo 509, the sound of the dialogue is a bit nasal and it is very tiring to my ears. I use the DTS/5.1 setting on the Xtreamer. And DTS on the receiver.
When I switched to XBMC using a laptop with HDMI, the sound opened up a bit. But I noticed that the DTS option is gone, instead, I am to choose between Direct and Multichannel. Either of the two produces better sound compared to the DTS setting.

I use a pair of A3's for LR and an A6 for the center.
Thanks in advance!

Does the Xtreamer have a "pass through" option instead of choosing DTS?

[jcsantamarina]

Does the Xtreamer have a "pass through" option instead of choosing DTS?

Chief,

According to the makers:

"The HDMI has been configured to the 1.3a spec, allowing full support of HD Audio pass-through for DTS HD-HR, DTS HD-MA, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD and DTS Downmix."

I set it to the DTS/Dolby D 5.1CH Setting on the Xtreamer and Used Direct on the AVR. Seems to sound better. More open sound than setting it to DTS on the AVR.
Is this the pass-through method?

[Conan]

Chief,

According to the makers:
I set it to the DTS/Dolby D 5.1CH Setting on the Xtreamer and Used Direct on the AVR. Seems to sound better. More open sound than setting it to DTS on the AVR.
Is this the pass-through method?

I'm not sure because I don't have an Xtreamer but in my Blu-ray player and Mede8er there is a "pass-through" setting meaning the player just "passes" on the signal untouched to the receiver which will do the decoding instead of the player. When you choose DTS on the Xtreamer then that is not pass-through, you are asking the player to decode DTS. Again I'm just guessing since I don't have any experience with Xtreamer players.

[jcsantamarina]

I'm not sure because I don't have an Xtreamer but in my Blu-ray player and Mede8er there is a "pass-through" setting meaning the player just "passes" on the signal untouched to the receiver which will do the decoding instead of the player. When you choose DTS on the Xtreamer then that is not pass-through, you are asking the player to decode DTS. Again I'm just guessing since I don't have any experience with Xtreamer players.

Thanks chief!

I just understood how the settings work. The AV Setup->HDMI Audio On enables the "passthrough". The DTS/Dolby D 5.1 CH setting is for using an Optical Connection.

Now that I have it right, Do I turn on "DTS" Listening Mode, or just use "Direct" Mode?

Super thanks for the patience.

[Courage]

Thanks chief!

I just understood how the settings work. The AV Setup->HDMI Audio On enables the "passthrough". The DTS/Dolby D 5.1 CH setting is for using an Optical Connection.

Now that I have it right, Do I turn on "DTS" Listening Mode, or just use "Direct" Mode?

Super thanks for the patience.

Congrats brader on your setup. Nag dodrool ako sa A6 mo... inip na ako he he he...

[jcsantamarina]

Congrats brader on your setup. Nag dodrool ako sa A6 mo... inip na ako he he he...

Salamat chief!

Stop drooling and get it!
"Easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission!" Hahahaha...

(B.I. ba?)

Huuuuuuge difference betweent the A4 and A6..
Wait lang, we're on the Onkyo thread! Hehehe..
Lipat tayo sa RTi!

Saving up for a better AVR na.. hehehe.. Onk709 or Den1912?

Hehehe..

[Conan]

Thanks chief!

I just understood how the settings work. The AV Setup->HDMI Audio On enables the "passthrough". The DTS/Dolby D 5.1 CH setting is for using an Optical Connection.

Now that I have it right, Do I turn on "DTS" Listening Mode, or just use "Direct" Mode?

Super thanks for the patience.

Use Direct as long as the output is in 5 channels. And I think Onkyo 709 is better than the Denon 1912. The 1912's counterpart is Onkyo 609.

[jcsantamarina]

Use Direct as long as the output is in 5 channels. And I think Onkyo 709 is better than the Denon 1912. The 1912's counterpart is Onkyo 609.

A thousand thank you's Sir Conan!

Now have things setup right.
I thought I messed up my connections or I had to buy another NMT!!!

Last question, if I may...

Is it normal to have the delay for the audio to start up?

[Courage]

A thousand thank you's Sir Conan!

Now have things setup right.
I thought I messed up my connections or I had to buy another NMT!!!

Last question, if I may...

Is it normal to have the delay for the audio to start up?

When listening to music? Millisecond delay when music starts playing?

[Conan]

When listening to music? Millisecond delay when music starts playing?

Same question as Courage. If the answer is yes, this is normal for a digital connection hooked up to a receiver. Use the analogue outputs instead for listening to CD's and there will be no delay.

[jcsantamarina]

Same question as Courage. If the answer is yes, this is normal for a digital connection hooked up to a receiver. Use the analogue outputs instead for listening to CD's and there will be no delay.

Yes.. That's what happens..

My workaround.. "Pause" The movie or music then play.. minimizes the startup delay..
Hehehe..

Thanks again for your valuable advice from experience!

Still earning mine.. slowly buy surely...

[jcsantamarina]

One more observation:

When I used the Audyssey setup, my Level Cal is at -12dB for the speakers... Is that right?

Update:

I changed my Media Player already.
Xtreamer, Mk1, has no HD Audio Passthrough, only the Xtreamer Sidewinder and Pro has it.

Got a cheap bang for the buck Kaiboer 130i.
Loving it. Clear and Crisp PQ and it has HD Audio Passthrough.

[trigo]

finallly was able to install the 609 with pa rTi series speakers...  now need to read back and tweak it some more...  but guys, what's the best tweak, shortcut na muna, to get the best of these avr and speakers.  i also use xtreamer, cignal HD, samsung bluray and ps3 as source...

[nogie]

One more observation:

When I used the Audyssey setup, my Level Cal is at -12dB for the speakers... Is that right?

You have to re-do the audyssey auto set-up & make sure none of the trim levels are at -12 or +12 dB (–15 to +12 dB for the Sub). Here's the thread for audyssey set-up from AVS forum for your guidance.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895

[Conan]

finallly was able to install the 609 with pa rTi series speakers...  now need to read back and tweak it some more...  but guys, what's the best tweak, shortcut na muna, to get the best of these avr and speakers.  i also use xtreamer, cignal HD, samsung bluray and ps3 as source...

Run Audyssey, turn on Dynamic EQ set to 0 db, also turn on Dynamic Volume set it to Light.

[jcsantamarina]

You have to re-do the audyssey auto set-up & make sure none of the trim levels are at -12 or +12 dB (–15 to +12 dB for the Sub). Here's the thread for audyssey set-up from AVS forum for your guidance.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895

Wow! Thanks for this!
Really appreciate it.

[trigo]

Run Audyssey, turn on Dynamic EQ set to 0 db, also turn on Dynamic Volume set it to Light.

i run the audyssey and save the settings it got.  you mean i have to redo it and reset the deq and dv?

[Conan]

i run the audyssey and save the settings it got.  you mean i have to redo it and reset the deq and dv?

No need to re-do it just check that Dynamic EQ is on and also Dynamic Volume.

[trigo]

No need to re-do it just check that Dynamic EQ is on and also Dynamic Volume.

ok will do that when i get home!  thanks sir!

[jcsantamarina]

I read the guide on the AVS forum and it said that the subs trim shouldn't hit -15db which is it's max.
So I redid my Audyssey setup.
I tweaked it till the Subs trim went up to -7db.
The other channels stayed the same at -12db, so I just adjusted them manually to -8db each.
Why? I don't know why!!!
Hahahaha..

Anyone who could give me insight on what I did, if it is wrong or should I make any more adjustments?
It sounds good though. Way better than when it was all at their maximum trims, -12 and -15 respectively for the other channels and the sub.

[Courage]

I read the guide on the AVS forum and it said that the subs trim shouldn't hit -15db which is it's max.
So I redid my Audyssey setup.
I tweaked it till the Subs trim went up to -7db.
The other channels stayed the same at -12db, so I just adjusted them manually to -8db each.
Why? I don't know why!!!
Hahahaha..

Anyone who could give me insight on what I did, if it is wrong or should I make any more adjustments?
It sounds good though. Way better than when it was all at their maximum trims, -12 and -15 respectively for the other channels and the sub.

If it's sounds good for you brader then you're good to go...

[nogie]

I read the guide on the AVS forum and it said that the subs trim shouldn't hit -15db which is it's max.
So I redid my Audyssey setup.
I tweaked it till the Subs trim went up to -7db.
The other channels stayed the same at -12db, so I just adjusted them manually to -8db each.
Why? I don't know why!!!
Hahahaha..

Anyone who could give me insight on what I did, if it is wrong or should I make any more adjustments?
It sounds good though. Way better than when it was all at their maximum trims, -12 and -15 respectively for the other channels and the sub.

There must be something wrong with the way you run the auto set-up. I also get undesirable values like distance, trim levels, speaker size pero pinagtiyagaan ko binasa mga tips from this forum at sa labas. I'm now experiencing the "magic" of Audyssey auto set-up. Para sa akin, Anlayo ng difference ng auto calibrated kesa sa manual tweaking.