Topic: ONKYO AVR

[raider125jeigh]

What speaker will you pair with 313?

[ninjababez®]

I know and I'm completely agreeing with you (same company and same sonic sound). Apparently the model I need (Denon 1813) was way out of my budget. Maybe next upgrade... hahahhha.

sorry for rubbing it, but 1713 @ that price is really a bang for your buck.  (last na ito bro promise )
but if youre using wharf or mission, for me safe bet is onkyo

[Philander]

What speaker will you pair with 313?

My still oldie and trusty Mordaunt Short Avant 914

[Philander]

sorry for rubbing it, but 1713 @ that price is really a bang for your buck.  (last na ito bro promise )
but if youre using wharf or mission, for me safe bet is onkyo

No component video in (wag na mambuyo, nandyan na eh, hahhaha). At nandyan din si MarketPlace.

So either this will be another lesson-learned, or a great surprise

[ASuL]

finally got set-up my onkyo 609 and i have a few questions...please help!

im using the following gears

fronts: polk audio tsi200
center: polk audio cs 10
rear: polk audio - old speakers
sub: polk audio dsw pro 500

when i used the quick audessy set-up the frequency cut-off were all set tp 40hz

tama ba yun? what should be the cut-off i should use? and wala yung small/large speakers setting?

thanks

[raider125jeigh]

70 to 80hz all speaker lfe|sub 80hz try it

[Weng!]

finally got set-up my onkyo 609 and i have a few questions...please help!

im using the following gears

fronts: polk audio tsi200
center: polk audio cs 10
rear: polk audio - old speakers
sub: polk audio dsw pro 500

when i used the quick audessy set-up the frequency cut-off were all set tp 40hz

tama ba yun? what should be the cut-off i should use? and wala yung small/large speakers setting?

thanks

set all your speakers to 80 hz then set the sub to 120hz. your speakers and sub will produce sound together from 80 to 120 hz and blend with each other.

[gutierrez]

Which is better for movies, onkyo 606 or marantz 5007? Im looking for more full body and aggresive sound

[onkyo616]

looks like di mo pa rin napagana ang ARC? i also have 616, sa akin naman nong try ko 6 months ago straight forward connection lang using hdmi 1.3 cable high speed with ethernet only at gumana naman. kaya lang pag naka-on ang ARC then nakikinig ako ng music at on ko ang TV, mag auto mute ang AVR at di pwede idisable pag naka on ang ARC (sablay yata sa firmware). since may spare optical cable naman ako, disable ko na lang ang ARC at ginamit yong optical out ng TV. question lang, naka TV/CD ba ang AVR mo pag ginagamit mo yong ARC?

Yes, pag gamit ang ARC nasa TV / CD yong setting sa receiver.
So yong sa iyo na receiver hindi mo nagagamit yong ARC feature nya kaya nag optical ka na lang
pero i think mas maganda yata pag HDMI, by the way anong gamit mong speaker

 

[raider125jeigh]

Which is better for movies, onkyo 606 or marantz 5007? Im looking for more full body and aggresive sound

what is your speaker? hihihi

[Clondalkin]

Pero automatic switching yon.  Kahit anong setting ng receiver, if you are using ARC properly, my Onkyo auto switches the source indication to TV/CD.  My default source sa HDMI ARC is "renamed" BD + NMT BTW.

Yes, pag gamit ang ARC nasa TV / CD yong setting sa receiver.
 

[gutierrez]

what is your speaker? hihihi

Mission M70 series (M74 fronts)

[raider125jeigh]

Mission M70 series (M74 fronts)

not familiar with mission sound character hehehe...

[Onkyo606]

Which is better for movies, onkyo 606 or marantz 5007? Im looking for more full body and aggresive sound

Onkyo have generally been know for its fuller sound reproduction and agressiveness.

[Onkyo606]

finally got set-up my onkyo 609 and i have a few questions...please help!

im using the following gears

fronts: polk audio tsi200
center: polk audio cs 10
rear: polk audio - old speakers
sub: polk audio dsw pro 500

when i used the quick audessy set-up the frequency cut-off were all set tp 40hz

tama ba yun? what should be the cut-off i should use? and wala yung small/large speakers setting?

thanks

if the result is 60 hz and above for the speaker level calibrations, Audyssey recommend to keep the results but this is dependent off course sa frequency response ng speakers mo. As recommended by Audyssey, all speaker xover are set to 80hz while the LPF of the LFE is set at 120 hz. There is no xover setting for the subwoofer in the receiver, its called Low Pass Filter of the LFE and not xover.

[ninjababez®]

No component video in (wag na mambuyo, nandyan na eh, hahhaha). At nandyan din si MarketPlace.

So either this will be another lesson-learned, or a great surprise

keep us posted.  btw wala ba return policy sa napagbilihan?

[ninjababez®]

Mission M70 series (M74 fronts)

get the onkyo as they match very well with mission speakers
but for me the marantz 5007 is superior than the onkyo 606

[Philander]

keep us posted.  btw wala ba return policy sa napagbilihan?

DISAPPOINTING to a large extent

Im trying to love the unit that Ive purchased pero wala talaga.

First, using push/pin type speaker terminals, hindi kasya mga gauge #16 to #12 speaker wires ko, so i need to flatten it using pliers at maisuksok lng yung maliit na part.

To give overview and before I gave detailed review at a later time as Im still trying to find the best settings... baka magkaroon ng improvement (sana)

Music Quality
Walang dynamics, walang warmth and soul... as in day and night ang difference sa sound ng Marantz, I know the sound of Marantz for 10 years so Im very familiar how it perform for every test music I tried (usually from jheena lodwick, Patricia Barber and that Best of AudioPhile Female voices CDs). The Onkyo sound is just full body and punch and that's it, walang reverberation (which is Marantz Signature). Kung baga sa singing contest, walang emotion at details.
Separation of instruments can be barely heard in Onkyo, halos walang details. Sa Marantz, feel mo yung emotion nung singer, para kang niyayakap.

Parang ganun na yung tunog nya? Hello Onkyo, sana sa entry level lang ganyan ang quality ng sound nyo.

You really need to pump the volume to hear the colors, pero it will be too loud...

And Im missing direct mode (sub off) in Marantz, wala bang ganung option sa Onkyo? Kasi direct mode nila nakaengage pa rin sub.


Movie Sound Quality
I thought this was Onkyo's strongest spot, expected to have a full body sound.. okay okay... Pero wala pa ring dynamics. If you are a person who loves bass and shake, then this is yours, but do not expect to be amazed at it lacks details and dynamics, hindi engaging.



I may keep this for the moment due to convenience at para masanay rin ako sa sound nya, baka may ibubuga pa (or masyado lang akong obsessed sa Marantz sound).

Actually I did not expect much, as they are both entry level receiver; it's so disappointing that the manufacturer added all the features you need but left the sound quality big time.

No more Onkyo products for me I was right all along since 10 years ago

[ninjababez®]

DISAPPOINTING to a large extent

Im trying to love the unit that Ive purchased pero wala talaga.

First, using push/pin type speaker terminals, hindi kasya mga gauge #16 to #12 speaker wires ko, so i need to flatten it using pliers at maisuksok lng yung maliit na part.

Kinda weird that gauge 16 does not fit, most users pa naman uses that gauge.  maybe this unit was meant for htib type speakers.

To give overview and before I gave detailed review at a later time as Im still trying to find the best settings... baka magkaroon ng improvement (sana)

Music Quality
Walang dynamics, walang warmth and soul... as in day and night ang difference sa sound ng Marantz, I know the sound of Marantz for 10 years so Im very familiar how it perform for every test music I tried (usually from jheena lodwick, Patricia Barber and that Best of AudioPhile Female voices CDs). The Onkyo sound is just full body and punch and that's it, walang reverberation (which is Marantz Signature). Kung baga sa singing contest, walang emotion at details.
Separation of instruments can be barely heard in Onkyo, halos walang details. Sa Marantz, feel mo yung emotion nung singer, para kang niyayakap.

Parang ganun na yung tunog nya? Hello Onkyo, sana sa entry level lang ganyan ang quality ng sound nyo.

You really need to pump the volume to hear the colors, pero it will be too loud...

i think this is common with entry level receivers, pero sa onkyo 508 ko before playing loud ends up with little distortion.

And Im missing direct mode (sub off) in Marantz, wala bang ganung option sa Onkyo? Kasi direct mode nila nakaengage pa rin sub.

how about pure audio option, meron ba?  pero dapat sa direct wala na nga sub.
Movie Sound Quality
I thought this was Onkyo's strongest spot, expected to have a full body sound.. okay okay... Pero wala pa ring dynamics. If you are a person who loves bass and shake, then this is yours, but do not expect to be amazed at it lacks details and dynamics, hindi engaging.

i think this is common with entry level receivers, pero sa onkyo 508 ko before playing loud ends up with little distortion.

I may keep this for the moment due to convenience at para masanay rin ako sa sound nya, baka may ibubuga pa (or masyado lang akong obsessed sa Marantz sound).

Actually I did not expect much, as they are both entry level receiver; it's so disappointing that the manufacturer added all the features you need but left the sound quality big time.

No more Onkyo products for me I was right all along since 10 years ago

bro wala ba option to return?  if i were you di ko na patagalin yan, either return or MP na

[gutierrez]

get the onkyo as they match very well with mission speakers
but for me the marantz 5007 is superior than the onkyo 606

Sir, may I know why you think the marantz is better than onkyo?

[Philander]

bro wala ba option to return?  if i were you di ko na patagalin yan, either return or MP na

Thanks.

I purchased it kay Ondoy (his units I think galing sa ibang bansa) not from a dealer, I have no intention to return it to him just because Im not satisfied.

Like I said, I may keep this for the meantime. Ipon na lang ulit ako para sa Marantz or Denon.

[ninjababez®]

Sir, may I know why you think the marantz is better than onkyo?

with the 2 models you mentioned, marantz had the upper hand. 
better room correction and the ACTUAL rated power/watts per channel

read Philanders post nalang just to get an idea, onkyo 606 in todays standard is just an entry/starter level receiver.

[Lynn]

DISAPPOINTING to a large extent

Im trying to love the unit that Ive purchased pero wala talaga.

First, using push/pin type speaker terminals, hindi kasya mga gauge #16 to #12 speaker wires ko, so i need to flatten it using pliers at maisuksok lng yung maliit na part.

To give overview and before I gave detailed review at a later time as Im still trying to find the best settings... baka magkaroon ng improvement (sana)

Music Quality
Walang dynamics, walang warmth and soul... as in day and night ang difference sa sound ng Marantz, I know the sound of Marantz for 10 years so Im very familiar how it perform for every test music I tried (usually from jheena lodwick, Patricia Barber and that Best of AudioPhile Female voices CDs). The Onkyo sound is just full body and punch and that's it, walang reverberation (which is Marantz Signature). Kung baga sa singing contest, walang emotion at details.
Separation of instruments can be barely heard in Onkyo, halos walang details. Sa Marantz, feel mo yung emotion nung singer, para kang niyayakap.

Parang ganun na yung tunog nya? Hello Onkyo, sana sa entry level lang ganyan ang quality ng sound nyo.

You really need to pump the volume to hear the colors, pero it will be too loud...

And Im missing direct mode (sub off) in Marantz, wala bang ganung option sa Onkyo? Kasi direct mode nila nakaengage pa rin sub.


Movie Sound Quality
I thought this was Onkyo's strongest spot, expected to have a full body sound.. okay okay... Pero wala pa ring dynamics. If you are a person who loves bass and shake, then this is yours, but do not expect to be amazed at it lacks details and dynamics, hindi engaging.



I may keep this for the moment due to convenience at para masanay rin ako sa sound nya, baka may ibubuga pa (or masyado lang akong obsessed sa Marantz sound).

Actually I did not expect much, as they are both entry level receiver; it's so disappointing that the manufacturer added all the features you need but left the sound quality big time.

No more Onkyo products for me I was right all along since 10 years ago

I have 313, kasya nmn yun 12awg. if magamit mo yun 12awg bk magkaroon ng pagbabago.

[Philander]

Really? My 12awg is Transparent brand. I will double check baka nga #10 ang gamit ko.

[raider125jeigh]

thats why i always suggest to buy second hand, mid to high level rather than buying BNEW entry level...
you wont expect much for entry level receiver...
it wont feed you speakers well...

[Philander]

thats why i always suggest to buy second hand, mid to high level rather than buying BNEW entry level...
you wont expect much for entry level receiver...
it wont feed you speakers well...

I may agree on this, however my Marantz entry level can drive my speakers well without distortion. The .08 THD (Marantz) vs 1% THD (Onkyo 313) might have an effect on real application.

[Lynn]

I may agree on this, however my Marantz entry level can drive my speakers well without distortion. The .08 THD (Marantz) vs 1% THD (Onkyo 313) might have an effect on real application.

I also have a entry level na integrated Amp Rotel, and I say sobrang layo nila sa Music, pero sa Movie may mga ibang sounds na kaya ibigay ni 313 na hindi kaya ni Rotel.

Like yun LotR DVD extended ver. yun mga musical background wala sa rotel pero sa 313 meron.

Same din tayo ng 12awg yun transparent na parang orange... try mo baka sakali lumaki yun tunog...

[Philander]

Same din tayo ng 12awg yun transparent na parang orange... try mo baka sakali lumaki yun tunog...

Nope. Made by Transparent brand (http://www.transparentcable.com/ ) yung sa akin, not transparent yung wire housing.

Its really a thick cable.

[raider125jeigh]

I may agree on this, however my Marantz entry level can drive my speakers well without distortion. The .08 THD (Marantz) vs 1% THD (Onkyo 313) might have an effect on real application.

its really hard to compare entry level before and the current entry level that we have this days..
now a days - cost cutting sa parts ang mga manufacturer...
power rating now e may daya na rin....like what you have stated above...
the only advantage of your onkyo to your marantz is HDMI and hd audio ....
feeling ko mas maganda pa ung kabitan ng speaker cable ng marantz mo kay onkyo...

kaya tinanong ko din kung anung gamit mong speakers...hihihihi....baka hindi ka masatisfy sa binili mo....

[Villaco]

Sir the problem is with pch a400 especially with hd audio

Katatapos ko lang mag experimento sa set-up ko.

whenever i turn on the video upscaling of Onkyo 1007 & play on my pch-a400 a movie w/ DTS HD or TRUE HD audio napuputol putol ang sound nya. Pero kapag passtrough lang ang video sa onkyo, ok ang sound nya.

It seems na d kaya ng onkyo na pag sabayin ang video upscaling at DTS HD or TRUE HD audio proccessing.

Pero to confirm these analysis i will try to use my yamaha rx v371 kung tama nga analysis.