Topic: Yamaha Receivers

[classicman]

Yamaha HTR-5860 7.1 Digital Home Theater Receiver



7.1-channel receiver offering 770W (110W x 7RMS), many exclusive Yamaha functions, including YPAO automatic optimization, Quad-field CINEMA DSP, XM Satellite Radio ready and Component Up conversion.

MSRP $549.95

High Sound Quality

7-Channel 770W Powerful Surround Sound (110W x 7)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Pure Direct for High Quality Sound Reproduction

Surround Realism

Dialogue Lift for Enhanced Dialogue Sound Output
Quad-Field CINEMA DSP and 14 Surround Programs
Night Listening Enhancer (Cinema/Music) and SILENT CINEMA

Advanced Facilities

XM Satellite Radio Ready
YPAO for Automatically Optimizing the Sound in Your Room
On-Screen Display
Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels) for the Ultimate Surround Sound System
8-Channel External Decoder Input

High Picture Quality

Component Video Up Conversion (Full)

HTR-5860 Features

    * Accurate Touch Volume Control
    * 192 kHz/24-Bit DAC for All Channels
    * Selectable 9-Band Subwoofer Crossover
    * Subwoofer Phase Select
    * Analog Mixdown
    * Straight/Effect Switch
    * Direct Stereo and 2-Channel Stereo Mode
    * High Dynamic Power and Linear Damping
    * Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, Dolby Pro LogicIIx and DTS 96/24 Compatibility
    * Wide-Range Audio Frequency Response for DVD-Audio/Super Audio CD
    * 9-Channel Speaker Terminals (incl. Presence Channels)
    * Surround Back Power-Amp Assignable (for Presence Channels)
    * 8-Channel External Decoder Input
    * Speaker A, B or A+B Selection (Front L/R)
    * Audio Delay for Lip Sync (0–160 ms)
    * Virtual CINEMA DSP
    * Wide-Range Video Bandwidth (60MHz -3dB)
    * HDTV Compatible Component Video Out
    * Preset Remote Control Unit
    * Sleep Timer
    * 40-Station Preset Tuning
    * Auto Preset Tuning

any thoughts on this baby (incidentally, this is for the north american market)

 

dumating na rin sa wakas (shipped via JAC) ......ang ganda pala talaga at iba ang dating pag black ang receiver

[backdraft]

dumating na rin sa wakas (shipped via JAC) ......ang ganda pala talaga at iba ang dating pag black ang receiver

bro classicman, how much was the damage for the shipping with johnny air? how long did it took for the delivery.

TIA

[aldrinpsx]

Im currently using it with my 602 S3 for audio listening..cant decide yet if i should sell this or not.

RX-V1400 Features

High power 7-channel* discrete amplifier configuration (110W x 7RMS/FTC)
Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification
Direct Stereo mode for high quality 2-channel sound reproduction
Accurate touch digitally regulated volume control governs all channels
Audio Delay for adjusting lip-synch
Finest parts used throughout for high sound quality
New 32-bit Yamaha LSI (YSS-930) for CINEMA DSP processing
Compatibility with latest movie sound formats including Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic II, DTS-ES Discrete 6.1, DTS Neo:6and DTS 96/24
THX Select processing
27 surround programs (47 variations) with SILENT CINEMA and Night Listening mode
Component video up conversion:S-video/composite signal conversion to component video signal
YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer)
Extensive inputs/outputs for custom installation (Zone 2, Zone 3and speaker A/B selection)
9-channel speaker outputs:Automatic presence speaker or Zone 2 speaker selection


peace!!!

[sanmig_ph]

ganda naman ng yummy ni sir aldrin 
nasasars tuloy ako
peace bro

[classicman]

bro classicman, how much was the damage for the shipping with johnny air? how long did it took for the delivery.

TIA

bro backdraft, i initially wanted to ship this together w/ my yammy dvd player via JAC's balikbayan box to save on shipping costs, but i was given an irresistible discount on air freight for them.....ang bilis ng shipment wala pang 10 days andito na sa cebu after it arrived at their NY office ......will PM you nalang the rate, hehehe

[backdraft]

bro backdraft, i initially wanted to ship this together w/ my yammy dvd player via JAC's balikbayan box to save on shipping costs, but i was given an irresistible discount on air freight for them.....ang bilis ng shipment wala pang 10 days andito na sa cebu after it arrived at their NY office ......will PM you nalang the rate, hehehe

that's quite cheap and fast. biruin mo di ka na dumaan ng post office, malamanang tatagain ka ng mga loko nyan for tax. 

[hattori_hanzo]

No where in metro manila I can find the RX-V750 as in "NO WHERE" bad trip yung mga suppliers dito hindi ko alam kung hinohord or what. 

[barrister]

Kung wala na talagang available, why not try the 657?

Wala pa akong 657, hinihintay ko pang mabili ang old gears ko.

Pero nag-audition ako ng 650; ayos na ayos.  Walang available 657 sa shop, pero sabi ng nag-aasist, pareho lang daw ang 650 & 657.  P19,500 lang ang 650; P26,500 ang 657.  Wala na daw talagang 750 kahit saan (757 not yet released).

Upon research sa internet, may malaking difference pala sila na useful para sa akin.  Ang 657 ay may parametric equalizer for each channel, automatic pa kasama sa YPAO.  Of course, manually adjustable kung gusto mo ng konting modification sa auto setup. Walang EQ ang YPAO ng 650 (wala rin yatang EQ ang YPAO ng 750).

Importante sa akin ang EQ para mapantay ang response ng lahat ng speakers dahil irregular ang korte ng kuwarto ko sa front left portion.  At baka hindi na maging issue ang konting difference sa speaker characteristics (bright, mid, dark, etc.) kung puwede namang ilapit sa almost flat response.  Hindi lang frequency and volume ang EQ nito -- 3 levels ang gamit nila: frequency, volume and Q Factor.  Baka malaos na ang Radio Shack sound level meter dahil dito.       

[Assassin101]

Kung wala na talagang available, why not try the 657?

Wala pa akong 657, hinihintay ko pang mabili ang old gears ko.

Pero nag-audition ako ng 650; ayos na ayos.  Walang available 657 sa shop, pero sabi ng nag-aasist, pareho lang daw ang 650 & 657.  P19,500 lang ang 650; P26,500 ang 657.  Wala na daw talagang 750 kahit saan (757 not yet released).

Upon research sa internet, may malaking difference pala sila na useful para sa akin.  Ang 657 ay may parametric equalizer for each channel, automatic pa kasama sa YPAO.  Of course, manually adjustable kung gusto mo ng konting modification sa auto setup. Walang EQ ang YPAO ng 650 (wala rin yatang EQ ang YPAO ng 750).

Importante sa akin ang EQ para mapantay ang response ng lahat ng speakers dahil irregular ang korte ng kuwarto ko sa front left portion.  At baka hindi na maging issue ang konting difference sa speaker characteristics (bright, mid, dark, etc.) kung puwede namang ilapit sa almost flat response.  Hindi lang frequency and volume ang EQ nito -- 3 levels ang gamit nila: frequency, volume and Q Factor.  Baka malaos na ang Radio Shack sound level meter dahil dito.       

elo po, m using a yamaha 650. meron na po sya kasama na YPAO. Meron din po sya EQ.

[barrister]

Sayang, mas gusto ko kasi ang kulay ng 650, mas mura pa.  Baka lugi ako sa 657, pero wala na yata akong makukuhang 650 ngayon.

Nag-research uli ako, at ang intindi ko sa manual ng 650, center channel lang ang may EQ, 5-band graphic equalizer ("CENTER GEQ"). So kung ang tonal imbalance ng left and right front ko ang problema, hindi rin maso-solve. http://www.yamaha.com/yec//customer/manuals/PDFs/RX_V650_.PDF

Sa 657, kasama ang EQ sa YPAO.  It's a parametric equalizer ("AUTO PEQ") with 3 parameters: frequency, volume and Q factor, equalizing all channels independently and automatically under YPAO. 

Pero meron ding center graphic equalizer ("CNTR GEQ") sa 657. So ang EQ choices sa 657 ay AUTO PEQ, CNTR GEQ, and OFF.  http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/re/RX-V657_U.pdf

[knefut]

sir any idea whats the lowest price for a 457 today?

[MAtZTER]

Its out! RXV1600 & 2600!
With HDMI interface!
with selectable posts for bi amping!
Burr brown DAC! lumalaban na Yamaha sa Audio!

I saw it at LIS yesterday and asked for a catalogue:





Ang mahal nga lang. Mga 60+k & 80+k sila. ouch!

[ricky]

with the price posted and If you guys plan to use only the preouts and processor part of this recvr,why not just get a pre-pro and a separate power amp, ;Dit would be much cheaper and practical in the end esp if you wont be needing also the tuner part

[Chito C.]

Bought banana plugs for my RXV-440. It won't fit.

[oweidah]

with the price posted and If you guys plan to use only the preouts and processor part of this recvr,why not just get a pre-pro and a separate power amp, ;Dit would be much cheaper and practical in the end esp if you wont be needing also the tuner part

sir ricky, what entry-level brand / model of "preamp/processors only" that are available in the market? tnx

[ricky]

sir ricky, what entry-level brand / model of "preamp/processors only" that are available in the market? tnx

Sorry bro my bad,all i can think of right now is the rotel rsp 1068 and i dont think it classifies as an entry level brand. but you can just get the cheapest model of yamaha or hk that has  pre-outs,its still a way lot cheaper than the rotel and you can bi-amp your spaekers pa like what matzter did

[oweidah]

ricky, no problem i think most if not all new yamaha entry-level models dont have pre-outs. sa *57 series, 657 or 757 lang naglagay ng pre-outs, at hindi sila naglabas dito ng audio/video amp/processor puro a/v receivers. sayang.

[sillyputty]

alam ko may nagpost sa asstd buy and sell ng pre-pro. rotel 1066.. 35k ata yun.

[MAtZTER]

Observe the pattern:
640-740 doesnt have YPAO
1400-2400 has YPAO
 
a year later...
650-750 has ypao


Yamaha's newer techs from higher end models trickle down to their entry levels in time. My guess is the RXV 660 and 760 might have these cool features (HDMI, bur brown, bi amping) as well, maybe next year?

So for me, pinakasulit na solution IMO is invest in a good 5 channel power amp (its what I did) and get a Yamaha 6xx to7xx for its unrivalled dsp and use it as a processor / pre amp (I plan to someday  ). This way you get the best of power and DSP. In my experience the Yamaha 3xx-7xx lack power, specially for floorstanders.

Just sharing my 2 cents  

[ricky]

alam ko may nagpost sa asstd buy and sell ng pre-pro. rotel 1066.. 35k ata yun.

Best buy na ito since srp right now is 82,000.00

[barrister]

Grabe ang pogi nito, a!

I just bought a 657, OK na ako dito.  The prices of the 1600 & 2600 are just way out of my league.

[classicman]

Grabe ang pogi nito, a!

I just bought a 657, OK na ako dito.  The prices of the 1600 & 2600 are just way out of my league.

congrats sir on your new toy, you will surely enjoy that much more than your previous receiver.......

[classicman]

So for me, pinakasulit na solution IMO is invest in a good 5 channel power amp (its what I did) and get a Yamaha 6xx to7xx for its unrivalled dsp and use it as a processor / pre amp (I plan to someday  ). This way you get the best of power and DSP. In my experience the Yamaha 3xx-7xx lack power, specially for floorstanders.

Just sharing my 2 cents 

sir matz, you should go for the RX-V2600 for that ultimate HT experience, bagay na bagay sa rotel power amp. nyo yan.........

[aldrinpsx]

ganda naman ng yummy ni sir aldrin 
nasasars tuloy ako
peace bro

Sold it already.. ..back to old skol... denon integ amp.

peace!!!!

[MAtZTER]

sir matz, you should go for the RX-V2600 for that ultimate HT experience, bagay na bagay sa rotel power amp. nyo yan.........

LOL, 60+K! Wala na pong budget  ! At medyo overkill na ata ang 2600 plus Rotel.

And I was doing some thinking, the HDMI upsampling wont be of benefit in my case cuz the PJ is far from the AVR. But DLP, LCD, PDP TV's can benefit from the HDMI upconversion of this baby.

It was also pointed out to me that the 1600 does not have upconversion, just HDMI. I failed to notice that at first.

But the bur brown DAC is attractive isnt it? Ganda siguro ng audio ng models na to...

Sir classicman, kayo na lang bumili ng 2600, bagay to sa B&W nyo  !

[barrister]

congrats sir on your new toy, you will surely enjoy that much more than your previous receiver.......

Thanks, bosing.  I owe it to your valuable advice in the other thread.

[classicman]

Thanks, bosing.  I owe it to your valuable advice in the other thread.

your welcome sir, glad to be of help somehow in your decision making.......

[classicman]

LOL, 60+K! Wala na pong budget  ! At medyo overkill na ata ang 2600 plus Rotel.

And I was doing some thinking, the HDMI upsampling wont be of benefit in my case cuz the PJ is far from the AVR. But DLP, LCD, PDP TV's can benefit from the HDMI upconversion of this baby.

It was also pointed out to me that the 1600 does not have upconversion, just HDMI. I failed to notice that at first.

But the bur brown DAC is attractive isnt it? Ganda siguro ng audio ng models na to...

Sir classicman, kayo na lang bumili ng 2600, bagay to sa B&W nyo  !

naku sir matz, mas lalong kapos ako sa budget ......besides i just bought my yammy HTR-5860 last my month & am pretty much satisfied w/ it for my current needs .......on the other hand, i'm presently on a hunt for either a decent cdp or integrated amp. for my separate purely audio set-up, di pwedeng pagsabayin at baka mabugbog na ni mrs., hehehe

seriously, i agree w/ you that the RX-V2600 might be an overkill for your set-up coz you already have the power amp.......so you just go for the RX-V1600 instead, you don't need the upgrading/upscaling features of a receiver naman coz your DVD players have that already & besides IMHO, mas maganda pa rin syempre yung direct route from player to your PJ as compared to coursing it through a receiver......

kayang-kaya nyo ang RX-V1600 coz halos ka-presyo lang yan ng HK630 nyo, ibenta nyo nalang yan then konting dagdag nalang at meron na kayong awesome combo for your ultimate HT entertainment

[MAtZTER]

seriously, i agree w/ you that the RX-V2600 might be an overkill for your set-up coz you already have the power amp.......so you just go for the RX-V1600 instead, you don't need the upgrading/upscaling features of a receiver naman coz your DVD players have that already & besides IMHO, mas maganda pa rin syempre yung direct route from player to your PJ as compared to coursing it through a receiver......

Exactly!  Ang galing talaga ni sir classicman!

kayang-kaya nyo ang RX-V1600 coz halos ka-presyo lang yan ng HK630 nyo, ibenta nyo nalang yan then konting dagdag nalang at meron na kayong awesome combo for your ultimate HT entertainment

Naku~~! Tukso ! layuan mo akoooo!  Heheh

But seriously, the HK does well din naman for HT. The Yamaha just has a slight edge with regards to HT & DSPs. But in my experience, the DSPs (of my older Yammy) were exciting at first, but it turns out that I only use 2 DSPs after the initial excitement. So for now dito muna tayo sa HK... Wala na rin kasi pambili ng bago, hehe.

[hattori_hanzo]

Galing Galing talaga ng Yamaha! parang Coffee 3 in 1...

Good for Audio, Ang lupit pa sa HT.......... Mas Matindi pa pag dating sa Videoke..... wala talgang tatalo pag dating sa HT at DSP, worth it every penny taon pa ang tinatagal... 

This is one good entertainment companion, pag may bisita Videoke, pag nagsawa HT naman, pag chitchat with friends good background music using DSP's...

cant ask for more...