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maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« on: Jul 03, 2006 at 07:18 PM »
Guys, ok lang ba ang 4 meters long ang haba ng front spreaker wire ko (12ga)?

Ano ba ang ideal lenght ng front speaker wire?

Dapat ba same lenght and same guage ang front and center speaker wire?

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #1 on: Jul 03, 2006 at 10:09 PM »
Guys, ok lang ba ang 4 meters long ang haba ng front spreaker wire ko (12ga)?

OK na OK yan, sister.




Ano ba ang ideal lenght ng front speaker wire?

Please refer to this table:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable

Recommended length depends on gauge and resistance.  Using 12 gauge wire at 6 ohms, recommended maximum length is 90 feet (27.4 m.). 




Dapat ba same lenght and same guage ang front and center speaker wire?

Hindi naman.  Basta within the recommended maximum lengths ka, ayos lang.

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #2 on: Jul 04, 2006 at 07:33 AM »
Thanks sir...  Akala ko lenght lang ng cable ang issue, meron pa palang cable resistance to low and cable resistance to high...  Sir ano naman ibig sabihin ng cable resistance? Ito po ba yung kapal ng insulator ng speaker wire?

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #3 on: Jul 04, 2006 at 10:33 AM »
Lower gauge, lower resistance.

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #4 on: Jul 04, 2006 at 11:58 AM »
Thanks sir...  Akala ko lenght lang ng cable ang issue, meron pa palang cable resistance to low and cable resistance to high...  Sir ano naman ibig sabihin ng cable resistance? Ito po ba yung kapal ng insulator ng speaker wire?

Resistance is opposition to the flow of electrical current.  It's called "impedance", measured in ohms. The lower the gauge, the thicker the cable, and the lower the resistance.  Ito yung material at kapal ng wire, hindi ng insulation.

Pero bale wala naman ang cable resistance sa table ni Roger Russell.  Factored-in na kasi sa table na 'yon ang cable resistance. 

Ang tinutukoy na resistance sa table ni Roger Russell ay sa speaker impedance.  I used a 6-ohm speaker load with a 12-ga. wire as an example because it's the most common in home theater applications.  A 12 ga. wire with a 6-ohm speaker load should not exceed 90 feet.  Factored-in na ang impedance/resistance in the speaker wire itself, which means that wire impedance/resistance is OK at wire lenghts not exceeding 90 feet; and not OK at lengths exceeding 90 feet.   
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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #5 on: Jul 04, 2006 at 07:51 PM »
Lower gauge, lower resistance.

Thanks sir...

Resistance is opposition to the flow of electrical current.  It's called "impedance", measured in ohms. The lower the gauge, the thicker the cable, and the lower the resistance.  Ito yung material at kapal ng wire, hindi ng insulation.

Pero bale wala naman ang cable resistance sa table ni Roger Russell.  Factored-in na kasi sa table na 'yon ang cable resistance. 

Ang tinutukoy na resistance sa table ni Roger Russell ay sa speaker impedance.  I used a 6-ohm speaker load with a 12-ga. wire as an example because it's the most common in home theater applications.  A 12 ga. wire with a 6-ohm speaker load should not exceed 90 feet.  Factored-in na ang impedance/resistance in the speaker wire itself, which means that wire impedance/resistance is OK at wire lenghts not exceeding 90 feet; and not OK at lengths exceeding 90 feet.   

Thanks sir... Therefore i need 36meters of 12ga (audio pro) or any recommendations sa brand na maganda pero affordable?

4meters ----- front left
4meters ----- front right
4meters ----- center
12meters --- surround left
12meters --- surround right

Mas ok kaya all 12ga na gamitin ko or 14ga lang sa surrounds?

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #6 on: Jul 04, 2006 at 08:07 PM »
... any recommendations sa brand na maganda pero affordable?

Kahit anong wire, basta OFC (oxygen free copper), OK na.



4meters ----- front left
4meters ----- front right
4meters ----- center
12meters --- surround left
12meters --- surround right

Mas ok kaya all 12ga na gamitin ko or 14ga lang sa surrounds?


12 ga. na lahat. 

Personally, hindi dapat mas manipis ang surround wires kasi iyon ang pinakamahaba.  Dapat nga mas makapal yung mahabang wire, di ba?     

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #7 on: Jul 06, 2006 at 01:28 PM »
Kahit anong wire, basta OFC (oxygen free copper), OK na.




12 ga. na lahat.

Personally, hindi dapat mas manipis ang surround wires kasi iyon ang pinakamahaba. Dapat nga mas makapal yung mahabang wire, di ba?

Eh di 10ga. dapat sa surrounds ko???

Saan ba nakakabili ng OFC  na wire and pano ko malalaman na OFC na sya?

Sorry ha dami ko tanong...

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #8 on: Jul 06, 2006 at 02:11 PM »
I think 14 ga all around is ok. 12 ga will be better, of course (i recall reading it's good up to kilometric distances).

Nakasulat sa insulation kung OFC sya.

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #9 on: Jul 06, 2006 at 02:34 PM »
yup mam... 12ga na po lahat. :D

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #10 on: Jul 06, 2006 at 04:23 PM »
Eh di 10ga. dapat sa surrounds ko???


Hindi naman, sister. 

Remember the wire table? (http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable)  Using 12 gauge wire at 6 ohms, recommended maximum length is 90 feet (27.4 m.).  So, kung 12 m. lang naman ang length sa isang surround channel, e di kayang-kaya pa rin ng 12 ga. yon.

My wire lengths are similar to yours, but I use only 14 ga. for all wires.
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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #11 on: Jul 06, 2006 at 10:02 PM »
Im using 5 meters for my 8W tube amp.

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #12 on: Jul 07, 2006 at 07:35 AM »
I think 14 ga all around is ok. 12 ga will be better, of course (i recall reading it's good up to kilometric distances).

Nakasulat sa insulation kung OFC sya.

Ahh... ok sir, thanks

yup mam... 12ga na po lahat. :D

Thanks sir 12ga nalang lahat... brand nalang pagpipilian ko...


Hindi naman, sister.

Remember the wire table? (http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable)  Using 12 gauge wire at 6 ohms, recommended maximum length is 90 feet (27.4 m.).  So, kung 12 m. lang naman ang length sa isang surround channel, e di kayang-kaya pa rin ng 12 ga. yon.

My wire lengths are similar to yours, but I use only 14 ga. for all wires.

cge sir 12ga nalang lahat ng wire na gagamitin ko...  Ano po brand gamit nyo and how much per meter?

Im using 5 meters for my 8W tube amp.

What brand po sir and ano guage?

Thanks guys...

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #13 on: Jul 13, 2006 at 03:28 PM »
cge sir 12ga nalang lahat ng wire na gagamitin ko...  Ano po brand gamit nyo and how much per meter?

I use Audio Pro OFC 14 ga.  It's about P100. per meter.

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Re: maximum lenght of front speaker wire
« Reply #14 on: Oct 06, 2006 at 05:22 PM »
medyo mahal yung 100/m na audio pro (60+ lang bili ko sa 14ga. last year)
sa recto ata binili ng contractor ko.

in my OPINION, hindi kailangan same length yung fronts or rears.  (especially 4 meters lang yung pinakamahaba mo sa front)
use what length you need lang (kundi parang spaghetti yan sa likod ng rack mo)

sales talk lang yan ng mga nagbebenta ng wire para bumili ka ng mas marami.


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