Author Topic: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!! (Read 181029 times)

kt · « **Reply #960 on:** Mar 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM »

Quote from: otepsy on Mar 12, 2008 at 09:50 AM

guys i tried component cable last night meron pa rin contrast fluctuation ganun pa rin. i'm gonna call the seller now. huhuhu

naku ganun ba bro? ask your seller nalang din about that issue. goodluck n balitaan mo lang kami

boybi · « **Reply #961 on:** Mar 12, 2008 at 11:38 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Mar 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I'm just curious, how is the warranty arrangement with our friendly members' HT stores anyways?

I would also love to know who's the seller and how will they deal with this.

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #962 on:** Mar 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM »

Quote from: otepsy on Mar 12, 2008 at 09:50 AM

guys i tried component cable last night meron pa rin contrast fluctuation ganun pa rin. i'm gonna call the seller now. huhuhu

Defective yan sir, have it replace. Sa hitachi ganun din karamiha ang sira, but the Hitachi company here denies that their units are defective (they charge the client for repairs). Bihira yan sa panasonic, have them test it para safe. Nasa warranty pa naman yata yan.

otepsy · « **Reply #963 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM »

Quote from: kt on Mar 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM

naku ganun ba bro? ask your seller nalang din about that issue. goodluck n balitaan mo lang kami

i've contacted my seller already and he says he will replace it whenever i'm ready. so now i'm fixing my schedule.

otepsy · « **Reply #964 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Mar 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I'm just curious, how is the warranty arrangement with our friendly members' HT stores anyways?

ok naman ang mga av stores regarding sa after sales support, i've pm my seller yesterday and he replied that he will replaced my unit just call him when i'm ready...

otepsy · « **Reply #965 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM »

Quote from: Nemesis91 on Mar 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Defective yan sir, have it replace. Sa hitachi ganun din karamiha ang sira, but the Hitachi company here denies that their units are defective (they charge the client for repairs). Bihira yan sa panasonic, have them test it para safe. Nasa warranty pa naman yata yan.

oo nga sir eh. mukhang ako pa lang naka-experience sa mga pv70 owners ng ganito... buti na lang warranty pa wala pang 2 months and buti na lang napansin ko agad actually wife ko hindi nya makita eh kailangan ko pa ulitin yung scene at ituro para makita nya..

kt · « **Reply #966 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM »

^bro thats good to hear na under waranty pa!

otepsy · « **Reply #967 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 01:10 PM »

Quote from: kt on Mar 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM

^bro thats good to hear na under waranty pa!

yeah. wala pang 2 months buti napansin ko agad.. thanks

fanatic · « **Reply #968 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 02:51 PM »

Buti pa kayo!!! Your Home Theater is my ultimate dream. Kaya lang broke ako. Anyway I'm more than happy and satisfied with my library of collections of VHS movies. Grabe super clear ang sound and picture pag VHS. Just learn to love the basic!!!!

bhongskie · « **Reply #969 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 03:25 PM »

Quote from: otepsy on Mar 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM

oo nga sir eh. mukhang ako pa lang naka-experience sa mga pv70 owners ng ganito... buti na lang warranty pa wala pang 2 months and buti na lang napansin ko agad actually wife ko hindi nya makita eh kailangan ko pa ulitin yung scene at ituro para makita nya..

thanks for posting this apprent defect sir otepsy, I should try to watch out for this intently on my panny. When fully gripped by the scenes on a film kasi di ko na napapansin kung may color defects. What I notice sometimes is that the black bars on top and below the screen sometimes talagang black but at times parang washed out and leaning more on dark grey. I dont know baka sa program material lang. Will have to test this thoroughly.

Anyway, what's the best way to test for the problem of "contrast flactuation"? Sa end credits ba mas glaring ito? Will try this tonight to see for myself.

fnvillafuerte · « **Reply #970 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 04:32 PM »

Quote from: bhongskie on Mar 13, 2008 at 03:25 PM

thanks for posting this apprent defect sir otepsy, I should try to watch out for this intently on my panny.....
.....Anyway, what's the best way to test for the problem of "contrast flactuation"? Sa end credits ba mas glaring ito? Will try this tonight to see for myself.

I second the motion, bhongskie! Baka we and other pana 42pv70 users here have same problem pero di lang natin napapansin kasi we are not conscious of it!

Thanks otepsy for bringing this issue up, you woke up our senses to be observant with our pv70's! Please give us tips on how to detect if our unit have possible "contrast fluctuation" problem.

Thanks!

otepsy · « **Reply #971 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 04:35 PM »

Quote from: bhongskie on Mar 13, 2008 at 03:25 PM

thanks for posting this apprent defect sir otepsy, I should try to watch out for this intently on my panny. When fully gripped by the scenes on a film kasi di ko na napapansin kung may color defects. What I notice sometimes is that the black bars on top and below the screen sometimes talagang black but at times parang washed out and leaning more on dark grey. I dont know baka sa program material lang. Will have to test this thoroughly.

Anyway, what's the best way to test for the problem of "contrast flactuation"? Sa end credits ba mas glaring ito? Will try this tonight to see for myself.

turn off your lights kadalasan pag nagpalit ng scene from light to dark and mas madali pag black ang background tapos yung fade in fade out ng texts try mo sa movie "Blade" ni wesley snipes after the movie bago lumabas yung end credits na crawling yung text may mga texts muna na paisa isa ang labas try mo dun

otepsy · « **Reply #972 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 04:46 PM »

i made a list kung san part ng movie ko nakita yung mga contrast fluctuation sakin para pag nag-test yung seller ko pag nag-replace ng unit. i'll post it tomorrow nasa bahay kasi eh.

barrister · « **Reply #973 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 04:57 PM »

Ang alam ko, may automatic contrast & brightness talaga ang software ng plasma. Pero konting konti lang yan. Hindi mo mapapansin.

Normal lang yata yung konting lightness and darkness sa fade-in, fade-out na end credits. Pero torture test na ang end credits, kasi magiging obvious na ang black fluctuation sa ganoong material. Kung may makita kang konting fluctuation sa end credits, OK lang yon, basta konting konti lang at walang delay sa response ang auto black adjustment.

Kung kita sa regular movie scenes, yun na ang masasabi kong defective. There has to be some failure in the software or hardware controlling the auto black adjust.

Ang problema, minsan-minsan lang tayong makakita ng ibang plasma, so mahirap sabihin kung defective o normal lang.

Mas maganda siguro kung si sir Nemesis ang magbigay ng observations kasi siya ang araw-araw exposed sa iba-ibang plasma.

otepsy · « **Reply #974 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 05:35 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 13, 2008 at 04:57 PM

Ang alam ko, may automatic contrast & brightness talaga ang software ng plasma. Pero konting konti lang yan. Hindi mo mapapansin.

Normal lang yata yung konting lightness and darkness sa fade-in, fade-out na end credits. Pero torture test na ang end credits, kasi magiging obvious na ang black fluctuation sa ganoong material. Kung may makita kang konting fluctuation sa end credits, OK lang yon, basta konting konti lang at walang delay sa response ang auto black adjustment.

Kung kita sa regular movie scenes, yun na ang masasabi kong defective. There has to be some failure in the software or hardware controlling the auto black adjust.

Ang problema, minsan-minsan lang tayong makakita ng ibang plasma, so mahirap sabihin kung defective o normal lang.

Mas maganda siguro kung si sir Nemesis ang magbigay ng observations kasi siya ang araw-araw exposed sa iba-ibang plasma.

mas madali lang kasi makita sa end credits pero sa movie the same din ang effect kaya nabahala ako. talagang halata kahit walang black bars yung mga black sa scene talagang nawawala yung pagka black nya ng 2 sec then black na ulit. ganun katindi. post ko tomorrow yung list ko ng scenes sa mga nakitaan ko ng fluctuation.

charlie 669 · « **Reply #975 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 06:28 PM »

finally my own 42pv70! we got 4 units kay sir jeff aka Nemesis yesterday and 3 units 32" lcd. Panny din brand

, sikat dito sa forum eh. More power pdvd for a very informative site. kung wala ito baka sa chain store lang kami nakabili. more power to Theaterworks and to jeni and jun for assisting, salamat din sa mga bluray na freebies.

Bait na bait sayo dad ko sir! Next time ulit budget muna kami para sa mgandang ht system.

charlie 669 · « **Reply #976 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 06:30 PM »

Oo nga pala kailangan ba talaga burn in ito?

bhongskie · « **Reply #977 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 06:58 PM »

Quote from: fnvillafuerte on Mar 13, 2008 at 04:32 PM

I second the motion, bhongskie! Baka we and other pana 42pv70 users here have same problem pero di lang natin napapansin kasi we are not conscious of it!

Thanks otepsy for bringing this issue up, you woke up our senses to be observant with our pv70's! Please give us tips on how to detect if our unit have possible "contrast fluctuation" problem.

Thanks!

oo nga sir, baka di lang natin napapansin kasi di tayo aware or dont know where and how to look for the seeming defects.

i just hope we wont discover any defects in our units.

bhongskie · « **Reply #978 on:** Mar 13, 2008 at 07:00 PM »

Quote from: otepsy on Mar 13, 2008 at 05:35 PM

mas madali lang kasi makita sa end credits pero sa movie the same din ang effect kaya nabahala ako. talagang halata kahit walang black bars yung mga black sa scene talagang nawawala yung pagka black nya ng 2 sec then black na ulit. ganun katindi. post ko tomorrow yung list ko ng scenes sa mga nakitaan ko ng fluctuation.

keenly awaiting this list sir otepsy, i'm sure others are eager as well. this is a big help to all owners of the pv70. thanks in advance.

kt · « **Reply #979 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 10:52 AM »

otepsy yung fluctuating na sabi mo sa movies lang ba? or kahit sa regular tv viewing n games?

bhongskie · « **Reply #980 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 11:33 AM »

have tried to look out for the contrast/color fluctuation last night and fortunately I didn't notice any in my panny. But I'm still uneasy coz I havent really tested thoroughly.

Have tried Blade as suggested by otepsy wala naman ako napansin na fluctuation. I also used scenes from Behind Enemy Lines particularly the scene where a partial moon is shown in white moving from center top to lower right of the screen with everything black in the background (i think this is just at the start of chapter 15 if not mistaken maybe around the 43rd minute into the movie). played this several times and havent noticed a change in black levels. hopefully wala talaga sa unit ko. did the test using pio 600 and a philips dvd.

otepsy · « **Reply #981 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 11:40 AM »

here's my list:

Blade (di na ko nakapag list ng ibang titles pero lahat ng pinanood ko meron)
12:28
24:33
55:40
68:03
65:36
74:50
75:50

focus on the black portion of the scenes and turn your lights off

otepsy · « **Reply #982 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 11:45 AM »

Quote from: kt on Mar 14, 2008 at 10:52 AM

otepsy yung fluctuating na sabi mo sa movies lang ba? or kahit sa regular tv viewing n games?

i haven't tried on regular tv but will try definitely this weekend.

oo nga pala gamit ko player pio dv600

otepsy · « **Reply #983 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM »

Quote from: bhongskie on Mar 14, 2008 at 11:33 AM

have tried to look out for the contrast/color fluctuation last night and fortunately I didn't notice any in my panny. But I'm still uneasy coz I havent really tested thoroughly.

Have tried Blade as suggested by otepsy wala naman ako napansin na fluctuation. I also used scenes from Behind Enemy Lines particularly the scene where a partial moon is shown in white moving from center top to lower right of the screen with everything black in the background (i think this is just at the start of chapter 15 if not mistaken maybe around the 43rd minute into the movie). played this several times and havent noticed a change in black levels. hopefully wala talaga sa unit ko. did the test using pio 600 and a philips dvd.

sa blade try mo rin tignan yung black bars sa scenes na pinost ko.

pag nanonood ba kayo ng may black bars sa top and bottom hindi ba nagbabago yung pagka black nya?
sa kin kasi talagang obvious na nagla-light yung black ng mga 5-10%, lahat ng black portion ng screen ang nagbabago ng kulay hindi lang yung black bars. mga 2 second lang

kt · « **Reply #984 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM »

otepsy im also using pio dv600 thru hdmi n wala naman ako na notice kahit na sa mga black bars on dvd viewing

otepsy · « **Reply #985 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 01:44 PM »

Quote from: kt on Mar 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM

otepsy im also using pio dv600 thru hdmi n wala naman ako na notice kahit na sa mga black bars on dvd viewing

it looks like my unit has a problem di bale papalitan naman eh yun nga lang another break-in na naman.

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #986 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 01:48 PM »

Sira talaga yan unit na yan, its like watching pal movie on a NTSC monitor. Parehong pareho ng hitachi plasmas. Sa ibang 42pv70 walang ganun. its very visible when you see it lalo na sa darkscene.

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #987 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 01:53 PM »

Quote from: charlie 669 on Mar 13, 2008 at 06:28 PM

finally my own 42pv70! we got 4 units kay sir jeff aka Nemesis yesterday and 3 units 32" lcd. Panny din brand , sikat dito sa forum eh. More power pdvd for a very informative site. kung wala ito baka sa chain store lang kami nakabili. more power to Theaterworks and to jeni and jun for assisting, salamat din sa mga bluray na freebies.

Bait na bait sayo dad ko sir! Next time ulit budget muna kami para sa mgandang ht system.

Tnx din sa purchse sir, basta ako we demo the unit w/ wide screen. Like i said before its the 10th gen na. Image retention nawawala agad dahil sa white wash ng pannel. Regards din sa dad mo, tell him discount naman sa mga resturant nya!

bhongskie · « **Reply #988 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 02:12 PM »

Quote from: otepsy on Mar 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM

sa blade try mo rin tignan yung black bars sa scenes na pinost ko.

pag nanonood ba kayo ng may black bars sa top and bottom hindi ba nagbabago yung pagka black nya?
sa kin kasi talagang obvious na nagla-light yung black ng mga 5-10%, lahat ng black portion ng screen ang nagbabago ng kulay hindi lang yung black bars. mga 2 second lang

will try the blade protions tonight.

what i noticed in the top and bottom black bars, nag-iiba sya ng pagka-black but I think depends sa program material. like in my case, the movie Troy has very black bars while in ghost rider its like a washed out black hindi talaga sya black na black. that is with same settings.

OT: sa mga pio 600 and pv70 combo users, anong gamit nyong HDMI color? In my case, scenes are too dark if I use Full RGB. Ganun ba talaga yun?

otepsy · « **Reply #989 on:** Mar 14, 2008 at 02:15 PM »

Quote from: Nemesis91 on Mar 14, 2008 at 01:48 PM

Sira talaga yan unit na yan, its like watching pal movie on a NTSC monitor. Parehong pareho ng hitachi plasmas. Sa ibang 42pv70 walang ganun. its very visible when you see it lalo na sa darkscene.

thank you sir sa comments papaschedule ko na palit nito pero baka after holy week na medyo busy ngayon eh..
convinced na talaga ko na may sira ito si sir nemesis na mismo nagsabi.. so guys observe nyo na lang mga pv70 nyo baka meron din pala problem hindi lang napapansin mabuti na habang maaga pa...

thank you guys sa inyong lahat. big help talaga itong forum marami naitulong sakin at marami ko natutunan..