Author Topic: A-AUDIO Speaker Creations!!! (Read 1108968 times)

toys4geeks · « **Reply #4020 on:** Nov 29, 2011 at 03:45 PM »

Quote from: mhupixto on Nov 29, 2011 at 11:46 AM

^^ Wow ang tinde! Ito talaga hindi mo makikita kung san nanggagaling ang sounds hehehe. Wala talagang imposible kay Master

+1

Hantay ako ke master a ng request ko for a custom center speaker --- excited ako Pero hanap pa siya ng guapong finishing grill !!

fattyacid · « **Reply #4021 on:** Nov 29, 2011 at 06:34 PM »

Quote from: Wildfire™ on Nov 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM

A-audio Coffee Table Sub]

perfect for condo units

Amazing!

The speakers literally disappear.

Kailan kaya ang A-audio Sofa Set sub, LCR TV Table at BD/DVD cabinet Surrounds?

juanch · « **Reply #4022 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 03:46 PM »

Master, here are the pics for your Cube set.

More to come

monreq · « **Reply #4023 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 07:27 PM »

Quote from: juanch on Dec 01, 2011 at 03:46 PM

Master, here are the pics for your Cube set.

More to come

Puwede sa maliit kong living room ito pag nag HT ako. Magkano kaya isang set?

banting312 · « **Reply #4024 on:** Dec 01, 2011 at 11:22 PM »

sir yung cube ba pwedeng gawin na binding post for banana plugs instead of the usual speaker terminal? thanks po!

George SJ · « **Reply #4025 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 01:12 AM »

ok na rin saken ung ganitong cube HT speakers.

scroombroo · « **Reply #4026 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 01:22 AM »

good day PDVD! i just bought a pair of charisma 6 bookshelf speaker from sir anthony. nabasa ko dito sa PDVD na kailangan i-break in yung speakers para mareach nito yung full potential. hindi ko lang magawa dahil di ako sure kung match yung built-in amplifier sa mini component namin with the speakers. i need help from you guys kung safe ba gamitin yung speakers ko which is 150watts, 8 ohms with this:

got the specs sheet from the net since nawala na yung manual nito.

please help po newbie lang. thank you so much.

Mods, pakilipat na lang po kung mali yung thread.

monreq · « **Reply #4027 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 06:45 AM »

Quote from: scroombroo on Dec 02, 2011 at 01:22 AM

good day PDVD! i just bought a pair of charisma 6 bookshelf speaker from sir anthony. nabasa ko dito sa PDVD na kailangan i-break in yung speakers para mareach nito yung full potential. hindi ko lang magawa dahil di ako sure kung match yung built-in amplifier sa mini component namin with the speakers. i need help from you guys kung safe ba gamitin yung speakers ko which is 150watts, 8 ohms with this:

got the specs sheet from the net since nawala na yung manual nito.

please help po newbie lang. thank you so much.

Mods, pakilipat na lang po kung mali yung thread.

Hindi. Kasi 35w @8ohms lang amp mo. Pero kung iyong speaker 150W max @ 80hms and 94db..puwede na din.

Dapat kasi 75w @8 ohms ang power ng amp mo. Para kahit panu pasok sa RMS ng speakers.

moonshow · « **Reply #4028 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 08:40 AM »

I got a david 2, its now fully broken in and the warmish "roundish" bass i'm looking of it really spot on

daming angbebenta ng titus, how does this compare to the david2? just curios

praktikal · « **Reply #4029 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 10:16 AM »

Naalala ko ang unang HT magazine na nabili ko. Featured ang sub-sat speaker comparisons.

scroombroo · « **Reply #4030 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 12:57 PM »

Quote from: monreq on Dec 02, 2011 at 06:45 AM

Hindi. Kasi 35w @8ohms lang amp mo. Pero kung iyong speaker 150W max @ 80hms and 94db..puwede na din.

Dapat kasi 75w @8 ohms ang power ng amp mo. Para kahit panu pasok sa RMS ng speakers.

Naku sayang naman pala di uubra existing mini compo namin. Hayy, siguro nga hintayin ko na lang ma makakuha ng tamang amplifier kesa masira pa speaker or amplifier ko.

Thank you sir monreq for your suggestions. God bless!

Digities · « **Reply #4031 on:** Dec 02, 2011 at 07:12 PM »

Quote from: scroombroo on Dec 02, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Naku sayang naman pala di uubra existing mini compo namin. Hayy, siguro nga hintayin ko na lang ma makakuha ng tamang amplifier kesa masira pa speaker or amplifier ko.

Thank you sir monreq for your suggestions. God bless!

oh i don't think it will break either. it just won't sound THAT good.

geriboy · « **Reply #4032 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 11:48 AM »

Quote from: moonshow on Dec 02, 2011 at 08:40 AM

I got a david 2, its now fully broken in and the warmish "roundish" bass i'm looking of it really spot on

daming angbebenta ng titus, how does this compare to the david2? just curios

I would want to listen to the David bookshelf speakers again...

Dilbert7 · « **Reply #4033 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 03:00 PM »

Quote from: scroombroo on Dec 02, 2011 at 01:22 AM

good day PDVD! i just bought a pair of charisma 6 bookshelf speaker from sir anthony. nabasa ko dito sa PDVD na kailangan i-break in yung speakers para mareach nito yung full potential. hindi ko lang magawa dahil di ako sure kung match yung built-in amplifier sa mini component namin with the speakers. i need help from you guys kung safe ba gamitin yung speakers ko which is 150watts, 8 ohms with this:

got the specs sheet from the net since nawala na yung manual nito.

please help po newbie lang. thank you so much.

Mods, pakilipat na lang po kung mali yung thread.

Safe na safe yang combo mo bro. Yung wattage ng speaker, hindi RMS rating yan! Walang kinalaman sa amplifier yang speaker rating na yan! Ang mahalaga 8 ohm ang speaker mo (so kahit ano pa ang output impedance ng amp - irrelevant na), hwag magclip ang amplifier mo (maririnig mo naman yon - parang nagpa pop na), at hindi maoverdrive ang speaker (which is not possible in your case).

Further, it will not necessarily make the sound bad for the combo - the given specs is irrelevant to determine whether the sound will be good or not. Hear it for yourself then judge the sound emanating from the speaker. You will be surprised if it comes better sounding.

Technically, the specs shows your amplifier is clean within the typical listening power levels - so that will sounds typical of any amplifier - speaker combo. Set the tone control (or the equalizer) at flat levels (do not engage extra-bass if there is any) - In this way, you can gauge the true sound performance of your combo. Then you may re-adjust your tone control / equalizer if you want to adjust some frequency response.

ATJr. · « **Reply #4034 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 04:03 PM »

@scroombroo,

wag sabihin na 35watt lang yung amp mo......like dilbert said......try mo muna....wag ka pasindak sa mga mababasa mo rito.....kung happy ka naman sa setup mo at sa speakers mo, yun ang mahalaga, hindi yung sinasabi dito....be your own boss when it comes to your own set-up....

yung 12 watter na tube amp ko kayang punuin na sounds you listening area ko na may sukat na 5meters wide, by 9 meters long by 4meters high....

monreq · « **Reply #4035 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 06:55 PM »

Quote from: lesleyc on Dec 02, 2011 at 07:12 PM

oh i don't think it will break either. it just won't sound THAT good.

Correct. Tutunog naman yan. Kaso di nga lang tutunog ng malupit at tama. Di ka puwede mag pump ng volume para bumayo ng maayos. 1 o'clock lang ang maximum volume mo at dapat malakas ng tumunog yan at maganda ang balance ng Hi, Mid, and Low. Usually, tweeter ang unang sisirain niyan pag kulang sa power at pinilit mo ilakas ang tunong by pumping the volume up.

So, I agree with lesleyc. Akala ko ako lang naniniwala sa proper matching ng amp at speakers. Kaya tinitignan ko din specs ng speakers and amps, for proper matching. Para at least di ako mahirapan mamili ng amp at speakers. Yan ang natutunan ko nung High Schoool when I was still working with Mobile Sound System.

Before I forgot. Dapat kahit walang EQualizer maganda na yan tumunog. Mas konting processing from the source, mas natural ang tunog ng audio system mo. You will only use equalizer if you really think kulang ang tunog. As for me, I don't use BBE or Equalizer, for I prefer more analog sounding when playing CD Audio Music. Just my preference.

Dilbert7 · « **Reply #4036 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 10:13 PM »

Quote from: TonyT on Dec 03, 2011 at 04:03 PM

@scroombroo,

wag sabihin na 35watt lang yung amp mo......like dilbert said......try mo muna....wag ka pasindak sa mga mababasa mo rito.....kung happy ka naman sa setup mo at sa speakers mo, yun ang mahalaga, hindi yung sinasabi dito....be your own boss when it comes to your own set-up....

yung 12 watter na tube amp ko kayang punuin na sounds you listening area ko na may sukat na 5meters wide, by 9 meters long by 4meters high....

Correct tayo dyan! Kahit anong power ng amplifier mo, sisira at sisira ng tweeter at speaker yon kung di alam ng nagpapatakbo ano ang ginagawa niya. Wala sa volume ang pagbayo ng speaker - nasa performance ng speaker yon - even the loudness of speaker is not determined by the volume position but by speakers' performance characteristics.

I do not match speaker power and amp power

to get the best in systems - of course, this will be different kung rakrakan lang ang usapan. I have 5 watter run by 35 wpc amp! a 45 watt speaker run by 80watt amp. and a 100watt speaker run by 3 watt amp

.

Speakers are known to have diffraction whether you like it or not, and the only solution there is equalizer. But people who is okay to compromising sound will choose not to opt with equalizer (I do not care to use equalizer myself - but I have one) - so this is individual taste bud na lang. Some people do not like equalizer, but will always try to make an equalizer using cables - same banana lang yon.

Hope this clears the concern of 'matching'!

monreq · « **Reply #4037 on:** Dec 03, 2011 at 11:51 PM »

So for those who will buy A Audio speakers, you may know the true SQ of this speakers after the 150 - 200hours breaking in period, and if your speakers RMS is properly matched with your amp's wattage and impedance.

I was a victim of not having a properly matched speakers and amp. When I tested my speakers with other amps that has more power, my speakers' soundstage got bigger and details got clearer and more natural. That is the reason why I believe in proper matching.

Kaya mahirap mag judge na panget iyong speakers kung sa amp pa lang sablay na. A good quality amp matched with your speakers will make you satisfy. Since, people has a natural attitude of "madaling magsawa" na parang ulam na kahit anong sarap kapag araw araw kinakain, magsasawa ka din, " you will end up buying a new audio gear. However, you can easily be contented if you choose to, only if you have a properly matched speakers and amp.

So if you have a pair of A Audio speakers, you must choose an amp that will really make this speakers sing, unleashing its true SQ. Right Anthony?

Of course, you will answer left.

toys4geeks · « **Reply #4038 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM »

I am completely fine with my 5 year old HTIB for my small room size, ewan ko ba kung bakit ako bumili ng Aventage A800 pero since parating na siya, wanna do it right, so :

on break-in:
150 hrs - 200 hrs break-in - does this mean I have to temper on the material i play or the volume level i send to the speakers? anong do's and don'ts.

on amp - speaker matching:

tama ba pag pasok sa OHM at watt ng amp si speaker safe na:
i..e speaker.ohm = 8 ohm and speaker.watt = 135 watt, kaya na i drive ng amp safely na < 95 watt,

coz my thinking if amp watt < speaker watt then safe
if speaker.ohm = 8 ohm then amp can drive it, ganun ba yun?

Since invest ako next year for proper speakers, appreciate guide. pero one thing is sure - I go Aaudio unless there's RFS=upgrade deals that fits the same budget.

For now, I care little about brand, and from AAUdio following and the finish are just as eye catching, I do think AAudio will perform just as the others.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #4039 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 05:47 AM »

dumating na ba ang amp bro jim?

jlester87 · « **Reply #4040 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 12:26 PM »

@scroombroo

As long as hindi mag cclip yung amp ok lang, sapat na yang 35w sa normal listening levels. Para ka lang naka gainclone niyan.. Yung speaker-amp matching more on sound preference nalang yun.

Kung gusto mong hindi masira yung amp, be sure na match yung impendance ng speaker na ilalagay mo.

Kung gusto mong hindi masira yung speakers, wag hayaang mag clip yung amp at mag feed ng distorted signals sa speaker. Turn down the volume pag distorted yung tunog.

markcrenz · « **Reply #4041 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 01:54 PM »

Quote from: Dilbert7 on Dec 03, 2011 at 03:00 PM

Safe na safe yang combo mo bro. Yung wattage ng speaker, hindi RMS rating yan! Walang kinalaman sa amplifier yang speaker rating na yan! Ang mahalaga 8 ohm ang speaker mo (so kahit ano pa ang output impedance ng amp - irrelevant na), hwag magclip ang amplifier mo (maririnig mo naman yon - parang nagpa pop na), at hindi maoverdrive ang speaker (which is not possible in your case).

Further, it will not necessarily make the sound bad for the combo - the given specs is irrelevant to determine whether the sound will be good or not. Hear it for yourself then judge the sound emanating from the speaker. You will be surprised if it comes better sounding.

Technically, the specs shows your amplifier is clean within the typical listening power levels - so that will sounds typical of any amplifier - speaker combo. Set the tone control (or the equalizer) at flat levels (do not engage extra-bass if there is any) - In this way, you can gauge the true sound performance of your combo. Then you may re-adjust your tone control / equalizer if you want to adjust some frequency response.

+1

Quote from: TonyT on Dec 03, 2011 at 04:03 PM

@scroombroo,

wag sabihin na 35watt lang yung amp mo......like dilbert said......try mo muna....wag ka pasindak sa mga mababasa mo rito.....kung happy ka naman sa setup mo at sa speakers mo, yun ang mahalaga, hindi yung sinasabi dito....be your own boss when it comes to your own set-up....

yung 12 watter na tube amp ko kayang punuin na sounds you listening area ko na may sukat na 5meters wide, by 9 meters long by 4meters high....

+2

Quote from: Dilbert7 on Dec 03, 2011 at 10:13 PM

Correct tayo dyan! Kahit anong power ng amplifier mo, sisira at sisira ng tweeter at speaker yon kung di alam ng nagpapatakbo ano ang ginagawa niya. Wala sa volume ang pagbayo ng speaker - nasa performance ng speaker yon - even the loudness of speaker is not determined by the volume position but by speakers' performance characteristics.

I do not match speaker power and amp power to get the best in systems - of course, this will be different kung rakrakan lang ang usapan. I have 5 watter run by 35 wpc amp! a 45 watt speaker run by 80watt amp. and a 100watt speaker run by 3 watt amp .

Speakers are known to have diffraction whether you like it or not, and the only solution there is equalizer. But people who is okay to compromising sound will choose not to opt with equalizer (I do not care to use equalizer myself - but I have one) - so this is individual taste bud na lang. Some people do not like equalizer, but will always try to make an equalizer using cables - same banana lang yon.

Hope this clears the concern of 'matching'!

+3

ATJr. · « **Reply #4042 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 02:32 PM »

Quote

on break-in:
150 hrs - 200 hrs break-in - does this mean I have to temper on the material i play or the volume level i send to the speakers? anong do's and don'ts.

wag mo masyadong seryosohin yung mga break-in chubaloo!!!!!......use your gear like you want to....sa iyo yan.....no one can tell you how to listen......

ang tanging maipapayo ko ay yung wag mong galitin yung kapitbahay mo........

toys4geeks · « **Reply #4043 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 02:42 PM »

Quote from: ninjababez® on Dec 04, 2011 at 05:47 AM

dumating na ba ang amp bro jim?

Ende pa nga dumating eh, prepare ko na old speakers at wiring para hindi ako gahol pagdating.

meron akong mga old bookshelf for fronts, pang tawid-tenga, habang ipon mode. Center ang dasal kong mastart kasi waiting on master A dun sa center grill kasi yun custom ko me gagayahin eh

ninjababez® · « **Reply #4044 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 09:56 PM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 02:42 PM

Ende pa nga dumating eh, prepare ko na old speakers at wiring para hindi ako gahol pagdating.

meron akong mga old bookshelf for fronts, pang tawid-tenga, habang ipon mode. Center ang dasal kong mastart kasi waiting on master A dun sa center grill kasi yun custom ko me gagayahin eh

good luck sa project mo bro

monreq · « **Reply #4045 on:** Dec 04, 2011 at 10:25 PM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM

I am completely fine with my 5 year old HTIB for my small room size, ewan ko ba kung bakit ako bumili ng Aventage A800 pero since parating na siya, wanna do it right, so :

on break-in:
150 hrs - 200 hrs break-in - does this mean I have to temper on the material i play or the volume level i send to the speakers? anong do's and don'ts.

on amp - speaker matching:

tama ba pag pasok sa OHM at watt ng amp si speaker safe na:
i..e speaker.ohm = 8 ohm and speaker.watt = 135 watt, kaya na i drive ng amp safely na < 95 watt,

coz my thinking if amp watt < speaker watt then safe
if speaker.ohm = 8 ohm then amp can drive it, ganun ba yun?

Since invest ako next year for proper speakers, appreciate guide. pero one thing is sure - I go Aaudio unless there's RFS=upgrade deals that fits the same budget.

For now, I care little about brand, and from AAUdio following and the finish are just as eye catching, I do think AAudio will perform just as the others.

Oo bro. Kaya na yan. Kahit 50- 65W busog na ang speakers mo bro. Kasi iyang 135W max.output. Ang required niya at least kalahati ng 135W para kahit naka 9 o'clock volume level ka lang buong buo na ang tunog at di boses ipis ang mid o maingay sa tenga ang mid. Dapat din naka flat muna ang tone controls mo para malaman mo ang tunay na SQ ng speakers. Kapag kulang sa bass o high dun ka lang magdagdag ng konti. Kahit 6 ohms ang speakers puwede ang 8 ohms amp.Usually, 6ohms up ang safe gamitin na amp impedance kapag 6 ohms ang speakers.

You should also consider the sensitivity of your speakers. Example, 94db..means sa 1 watt=94db ang lakas ng output ng speakers mo. Means, madali siyang drive kahit paano. Pag match ang power ng amp sa speakers, mas buo ang mid at low frequency. Hindi din masyado masakit sa tenga ang hi freq.niya. Maiiwasan din ang pag init ng amp.

As for the break in period. Totoo yan. Kasi most branded speaker manufacturer say that. Mas alam nila ang sinasabi nila kasi sila ang gumagawa ng speakers. Na observe ko din at ibang tao na nagbabago ang tunog kapag na break in na. Mas open na ang mid at maganda na ang bass. Sabi nga wag masyado biglain at baka dumugo este masira...ang voice coil. (joke)

Good luck bro.

Enjoy your new A Audio Gear. May parating si Anthony...mas lalo tayo mag eenjoy pag dumating iyong bago niyang product line.

Dilbert7 · « **Reply #4046 on:** Dec 05, 2011 at 10:33 AM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM

I am completely fine with my 5 year old HTIB for my small room size, ewan ko ba kung bakit ako bumili ng Aventage A800 pero since parating na siya, wanna do it right, so :

lam ko kung bakit

! Panay istambay ka siguro dito sa pdvd - at marami ka narinig na yada yada at yada pa!

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM

on break-in:
150 hrs - 200 hrs break-in - does this mean I have to temper on the material i play or the volume level i send to the speakers? anong do's and don'ts.

This is the usual sales pitch for speakers not sounding good the first time - so you break-in your speaker so that it will be out of warranty by the time you complained it does not really sound good. Otherwise, you have broken in your ears - and adjusted your brain to accommodate the speaker sound and learn to live with it!

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM

on amp - speaker matching:

tama ba pag pasok sa OHM at watt ng amp si speaker safe na:
i..e speaker.ohm = 8 ohm and speaker.watt = 135 watt, kaya na i drive ng amp safely na < 95 watt,

coz my thinking if amp watt < speaker watt then safe
if speaker.ohm = 8 ohm then amp can drive it, ganun ba yun?

Basta amplifier of decent wants (even tube amp na 1 watt lang) can drive any speaker. Loudness will be dictated basically by speaker's sensitivity - then followed by amp power.

For safety and precaution, if amp restricts you to 8-ohm, then use 8-ohm. If your amp is rated at 4ohm, you can use 8-ohm speaker, but this will translate into your amp giving just half its rated power.

Some amplifier, like yamaha AVR, though at 8-ohm setting can accept 4-ohm speaker (this is translated more dynamics) if you do not switch it to accept 4-ohm speaker. This is in fact a recommendation even coming from audiophiles.com audiophile specialist.

If you are just listening at home typical listening (not disturbing your neighbor per TonyT), <95 watts (even 1 watt, if your speaker is has high sensitivity), is okay to feed on the 135W speaker.

Lastly, if you have the crank to play loud and overdrive speakers / amplifiers, the rule of the thumb is "low power amp is more dangerous than high powered amp!". This is because "clipping" occurs early in low powered amps. Clipping can burn your speakers!

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 04, 2011 at 04:29 AM

Since invest ako next year for proper speakers, appreciate guide. pero one thing is sure - I go Aaudio unless there's RFS=upgrade deals that fits the same budget.

For now, I care little about brand, and from AAUdio following and the finish are just as eye catching, I do think AAudio will perform just as the others.

Right. AAudio is right on budget for a good speaker.

praktikal · « **Reply #4047 on:** Dec 05, 2011 at 10:42 AM »

^^ ang linaw ng paliwanag -- informative.

toys4geeks · « **Reply #4048 on:** Dec 05, 2011 at 10:50 AM »

Quote from: Dilbert7 on Dec 05, 2011 at 10:33 AM

lam ko kung bakit ! Panay istambay ka siguro dito sa pdvd - at marami ka narinig na yada yada at yada pa!

This is the usual sales pitch for speakers not sounding good the first time - so you break-in your speaker so that it will be out of warranty by the time you complained it does not really sound good. Otherwise, you have broken in your ears - and adjusted your brain to accommodate the speaker sound and learn to live with it!

Basta amplifier of decent wants (even tube amp na 1 watt lang) can drive any speaker. Loudness will be dictated basically by speaker's sensitivity - then followed by amp power.

For safety and precaution, if amp restricts you to 8-ohm, then use 8-ohm. If your amp is rated at 4ohm, you can use 8-ohm speaker, but this will translate into your amp giving just half its rated power.

Some amplifier, like yamaha AVR, though at 8-ohm setting can accept 4-ohm speaker (this is translated more dynamics) if you do not switch it to accept 4-ohm speaker. This is in fact a recommendation even coming from audiophiles.com audiophile specialist.

If you are just listening at home typical listening (not disturbing your neighbor per TonyT), <95 watts (even 1 watt, if your speaker is has high sensitivity), is okay to feed on the 135W speaker.

Lastly, if you have the crank to play loud and overdrive speakers / amplifiers, the rule of the thumb is "low power amp is more dangerous than high powered amp!". This is because "clipping" occurs early in low powered amps. Clipping can burn your speakers!

Right. AAudio is right on budget for a good speaker.

galing! thanks!

kelangan ko na din talaga ng A800 dahil sa 3D, at DTS-MA/TrueHD

ok na yang naimpluwensyahan ako, hehehe

ATJr. · « **Reply #4049 on:** Dec 05, 2011 at 11:54 AM »

yes, anthony's creations are good from get go........i have no doubt........just use them and enjoy the music........