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« Reply #90 on: May 04, 2011 at 02:22 PM »
Hehehe donation ang usapan dito. E mas mayaman kayong di hamak sa akin. Ako nalang maghihintay ng donation from the 2 of you :)

Ay yaman na ang usapan dito, wala po akong ganun. Kayo lang ni Master Raz yun mga haciendero.

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« Reply #91 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 09:59 PM »
Just got an Imagine B from Rex. Will break in and post feedback. Salamat Rex and Amiel.
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« Reply #92 on: Jul 20, 2011 at 09:59 PM »
Just got an Imagine B from Rex. Will break in and post feedback. Salamat Rex and Amiel.

Wow, nice! What amp are you using with it?
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« Reply #93 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 12:20 AM »
NAD 326 bro. NAD 515 cdp.
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« Reply #94 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 09:00 AM »
NAD 326 bro. NAD 515 cdp.

That should sound awesome!  ;D
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« Reply #95 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 03:26 PM »
Love the soundstage and bass. You can actually feel the effect of the speaker enclosure on the sound. However, I am tempted to upgrade the amp to provide it more juice.
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« Reply #96 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 04:37 PM »
Just got an Imagine B from Rex. Will break in and post feedback. Salamat Rex and Amiel.
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« Reply #97 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 05:07 PM »
Love the soundstage and bass. You can actually feel the effect of the speaker enclosure on the sound. However, I am tempted to upgrade the amp to provide it more juice.

Congrats! :) C375BEE would be awesome with those speakers. :)
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« Reply #98 on: Jul 21, 2011 at 08:52 PM »
Thank you rex. Now the temptation to go for a more powerful amp. Compared with the B6, I need to turn up the volume the volume a bit to get the details.
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« Reply #99 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:09 AM »
Had a chance to compare the Imagine B with the Aurum Cantus BS and Monitor Audio BX2.

Imagine B vs. Aurum Cantus BS using NAD 375 amp and 515 CDP
Imagine B vs. Monitor Audio BX2 using NAD 326 and 515 CDP
Ecosse speaker cables
Cal's ICs

No offense to owners of other brands but I like the Imagine better. Not only because I own a pair since I also have the BX2 (I'm a big fan of MA) and I somehow like the looks of the Aurum. I think the Imagine has more body than the Aurum- mas buo tunog in layman's terms-probably because of the Imagine's cabinet. It has better detail in the mids and highs than the BX2. Perhaps the RX2 will be a better basis for comparison. I will try to get my hands on a pair. Surprisingly, it can match the bass of the BX2 despite its smaller woofer.

Maybe, the NAD Aurum or NAD BX2 is not a good match.


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« Reply #100 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 01:52 AM »
Congrats on those Imagine Bs! They truly are a great match with the NAD system. Perhaps the other two speakers were not a good match with the amp and cdp. But then again, the Imagine B is at a different level/category also. Perhaps the RX2 would be a contender, though I prematurely prefer the Imagine B.  ;)

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« Reply #101 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 06:25 AM »
Congrats on the C375BEE. That's truly a great amp. I don't know of any competing amp at its price range that can deliver as much current and grip. This model delivers credentials and sonics close to the master series, at a fraction of the price.
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« Reply #102 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:07 PM »
Using the BX2 with Dayton DTA 100A-CD2-MP3 Player (FLAC). I think the Dayton is a better match for the BX2 than with the NAD. More detailed and crisper sound.
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« Reply #103 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:08 PM »
Perfect for office set up for less than 25k.
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« Reply #104 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM »
Had a chance to compare the Imagine B with the Aurum Cantus BS and Monitor Audio BX2.

Imagine B vs. Aurum Cantus BS using NAD 375 amp and 515 CDP
Imagine B vs. Monitor Audio BX2 using NAD 326 and 515 CDP
Ecosse speaker cables
Cal's ICs

No offense to owners of other brands but I like the Imagine better. Not only because I own a pair since I also have the BX2 (I'm a big fan of MA) and I somehow like the looks of the Aurum. I think the Imagine has more body than the Aurum- mas buo tunog in layman's terms-probably because of the Imagine's cabinet. It has better detail in the mids and highs than the BX2. Perhaps the RX2 will be a better basis for comparison. I will try to get my hands on a pair. Surprisingly, it can match the bass of the BX2 despite its smaller woofer.

Maybe, the NAD Aurum or NAD BX2 is not a good match.




Anong model po ng aurum cantus ito?

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« Reply #105 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:26 PM »
I cannot remember. It's the one at the shop of Rex in MCS-Watts Hi fi.
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« Reply #106 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:36 PM »
Anong model po ng aurum cantus ito?
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« Reply #107 on: Aug 18, 2011 at 12:39 PM »
Yun. Thanks Rex. I think tube amp instead of SS will be ideal for the Aurum.
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« Reply #108 on: Feb 18, 2012 at 05:59 PM »
Auditioned a few speakers today. And the PSB Imagine T stood out among those I listened to. Definitely ranks up there on my speaker wish-list along with the Focal Stella Utopia EM and the B&W 800D.

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« Reply #109 on: Feb 18, 2012 at 08:35 PM »
Auditioned a few speakers today. And the PSB Imagine T stood out among those I listened to. Definitely ranks up there on my speaker wish-list along with the Focal Stella Utopia EM and the B&W 800D.

Mukhang humakot ka na ng speakers ah. :)

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« Reply #110 on: Feb 18, 2012 at 08:51 PM »
Mukhang humakot ka na ng speakers ah. :)

fanboy lang master. nangangarap lang na sana magkaroon ako ng psb. kuhang kuha ng imagine t yung hinahanap ko sa audio. wide sound stage, forward sounding without being too aggressive. airy and crisp highs. and it's explosive--- as in sobrang lakas ng dating.

kaso nung nalaman ko yung retail price niya na P80k+, nasira ang mga pangarap ko kasi hanggang pangarap nalang talaga siya. kaya kapag nagsawa ka na master sa imagine t mo, please reserve it for me ;D
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« Reply #111 on: Feb 20, 2012 at 03:01 AM »
fanboy lang master. nangangarap lang na sana magkaroon ako ng psb. kuhang kuha ng imagine t yung hinahanap ko sa audio. wide sound stage, forward sounding without being too aggressive. airy and crisp highs. and it's explosive--- as in sobrang lakas ng dating.
Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?

Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)

kaso nung nalaman ko yung retail price niya na P80k+, nasira ang mga pangarap ko kasi hanggang pangarap nalang talaga siya. kaya kapag nagsawa ka na master sa imagine t mo, please reserve it for me ;D

Cheap lang to for you, Master Gerard. Platinum T8 Master Gerard Signature nga binili mo eh, special creation and delivery ni Paul Barton. :)

Pero happy din ako sa Imagine T. It does what it does very well. It doesn't play very loud, nor does it play low (it behaves more like a big stand-mount speaker with free stands). It's neither very easy to drive, nor is it imposing in size or build. It's not made of exotic materials, and could not not boast of ultra-extended highs.

What it has going for it is neutrality and resolution in the range that it covers. It provides a very clean and low distortion sound. I'd be hard pressed to name another tower speaker that delivers better linearity in this price range.

Just in case you're wondering, may Imagine T2 na din. 2012 model siya, hindi ko lang alam kung meron na locally. If you look at the driver config, you'd know that it got some technology from the Synchrony line.


PSB spreads their LF drivers widely along the front baffle to reduce the effect of floor and ceiling reflections by taking advantage of PLDs to those surfaces (instead of controlling vertical dispersion, as with a traditional d'appolito array). The lower-mounted woofers roll off sooner to prevent them from affecting the point-source effect at higher frequencies (and preventing the floor reflections from ruining the sound).
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« Reply #112 on: Feb 20, 2012 at 06:53 AM »
Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?

Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)

Cheap lang to for you, Master Gerard. Platinum T8 Master Gerard Signature nga binili mo eh, special creation and delivery ni Paul Barton. :)

Pero happy din ako sa Imagine T. It does what it does very well. It doesn't play very loud, nor does it play low (it behaves more like a big stand-mount speaker with free stands). It's neither very easy to drive, nor is it imposing in size or build. It's not made of exotic materials, and could not not boast of ultra-extended highs.

What it has going for it is neutrality and resolution in the range that it covers. It provides a very clean and low distortion sound. I'd be hard pressed to name another tower speaker that delivers better linearity in this price range.

Just in case you're wondering, may Imagine T2 na din. 2012 model siya, hindi ko lang alam kung meron na locally. If you look at the driver config, you'd know that it got some technology from the Synchrony line.


PSB spreads their LF drivers widely along the front baffle to reduce the effect of floor and ceiling reflections by taking advantage of PLDs to those surfaces (instead of controlling vertical dispersion, as with a traditional d'appolito array). The lower-mounted woofers roll off sooner to prevent them from affecting the point-source effect at higher frequencies (and preventing the floor reflections from ruining the sound).

Astig at Gwapo ng T2!!!!   :o :o :o :o ;D ;D

More muscle to the Imagine's finesse!
 
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« Reply #113 on: Feb 20, 2012 at 07:14 AM »
Wow those look great!
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« Reply #114 on: Feb 21, 2012 at 04:11 AM »
Meron ka na nga eh. Kamusta naman flagship gear mo?

Si Roy demonyohin mo na din. ;)

Hehe hindi ko alam na flagship gear na pala ang Alpha B1s ko  :) At si Master Roy pa, afford nun bumili ng Synchrony One at gawing surround speaker lang yun.

What do you think of PSB subs master? particularly the Subseries 5i?

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« Reply #115 on: Feb 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM »

What do you think of PSB subs master? particularly the Subseries 5i?

Go for the Subsonic 6i instead, it's got legitimate output to 20Hz, I tested it with test tones at Watts Hi-Fi. This chart is old so I think the SVS PB12NSD already made improvements since then:

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« Reply #116 on: Feb 22, 2012 at 03:04 AM »
Go for the Subsonic 6i instead, it's got legitimate output to 20Hz, I tested it with test tones at Watts Hi-Fi. This chart is old so I think the SVS PB12NSD already made improvements since then:



ayun, thanks for the info master.  nakalimutan ko yung exact model ng sub dun kina sir rex :) and i was able to listen to it using the test tone you you lent him. impressive nga. walang ka-effort effort yung 20Hz.

looking at the table, nice performance vs the pb12nsd. it looks like it's more powerful but the svs can consistently go lower. and yeah, since the new pb12nsd are using sledge amps these figures may change. thanks for this data.

i guess the real advantage the 6i has would be it's excellent pricing vs the svs. mukhang good value for the money siya. plus the aesthetics doesn't hurt either. hopefully it comes in dark cherry!  ;D
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« Reply #117 on: Feb 22, 2012 at 03:55 AM »
Try the HD10 idol... bagay sa big time condo mo... Hehe!

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« Reply #118 on: Feb 22, 2012 at 03:57 AM »
Ayan na, hahakot na ng sub si Master Gerard. SubSeries 500 :)

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« Reply #119 on: Feb 22, 2012 at 09:46 AM »
Try the HD10 idol... bagay sa big time condo mo... Hehe!

I did a back to back audition with the HD10 and Subsonic 6i. The HD10 has a very weak output at 20Hz compared to a strong output of the 6i. At 30Hz the HD10 has very strong output but so does the 6i. From my limited audition time it seemed that these two subs are just about equally loud with the size advantage going to the HD10 and the 20Hz reproduction capability going to the 6i. The HD10 may play louder than the 6i (based on what I heard during the Hi-Fi show at Dusit), but I did not test this. I was just after the frequency reproduction capabilities of both subs during my time with them.
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