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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1140 on: Nov 29, 2006 at 06:54 PM »
QTV 11 program ANG PINAKA hosted by Pia Guanio unleashed last Sunday the Top Ten Best Filipino Films from the 80's. The jurors include: NICANOR TIONGSON, ERIK MATTI, NICK DE OCAMPO, RUEL BAYANI, SIGFREID BARROS-SANCHEZ and ELLEN ONGKEKO-MARFIL.

1. HIMALA
2. ORO PLATA MATA
3. BATCH 81
4. MANILA BY NIGHT
5. ORAPRONOBIS
6. SISTER STELLA L
7. SCORPIO NIGHTS
8. RELASYON
9. MORAL
10. BONA tied with KARNAL

Before we castigate and throw stones to these people, like where's KISAPMATA from the lists, the jurors defended the merits of each film and highlight the most memorable scene in each movie.

Nice lists actually, especially their choice of no. 2 and no. 7 spot.  ;)
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1141 on: Dec 02, 2006 at 04:40 PM »
Where's Kisapmata?

What's (and Mike might ask the same question) Sister Stella L doing there?

Where's Kastilyong Buhangin, Bakit Bughaw, Condemned, Bulaklak sa City Jail, Bagong Hari, Init sa Magdamag Salome and Ang Magpakailanman on that list? Are they implying that Marilou is a better filmmaker than Laurice Guuillen?

Feh. This is why I don't respect lists by committees.

Being a Filipino film critic
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1142 on: Dec 03, 2006 at 09:06 AM »
Where's Kisapmata?

What's (and Mike might ask the same question) Sister Stella L doing there?

Where's Kastilyong Buhangin, Bakit Bughaw, Condemned, Bulaklak sa City Jail, Bagong Hari, Init sa Magdamag Salome and Ang Magpakailanman on that list? Are they implying that Marilou is a better filmmaker than Laurice Guuillen?

Feh. This is why I don't respect lists by committees.

Being a Filipino film critic

mas questionnable pag isang tao lang ang gumawa ng list..ex. derek malcolm and his penchance for socially relevant films..hndi lang isang critic ang may authority sa kagalingan ng mga pelikula..dapat yang mga list list na yan..consensus ng maraming taong eksperto sa pelikula..

noel vera putting 3 taon as his best filipino film made will always remain debatable...how about lito zulueta's best? sottos? arcellana's? or tejero's?

yes...laurice is better than marilou..way way better...

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1143 on: Dec 03, 2006 at 09:13 AM »
Lav Diaz on Castillo, Gallaga & O'Hara:

CELSO AD CASTILLO- experimental
MARIO O'HARA- careless but deep



neighbors ko tong 2 dito sa makati..hehe..

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1144 on: Dec 03, 2006 at 10:26 AM »
I disagree; two people or more making a list means the list isn't anyone's in particular, but a result of politics--okay, put him in to make you happy, keep him out to make me happy. I'm never happy with that.

A personal list has the man's prejudices but also his insight; if you're familiar with the listmaker, you know where he's coming from. You also know what he (or she) has to offer.

I've said this before, but I always liked Sight and Sound's lists--not because they have a greatest of all times list (I think that list is useless, except as an indicator of what's fashionable, not of what's actually good), but because they include the list of everyone who contributed. Now those lists are interesting.

I don't look to lists to tell me what movies I should consider great. I look to them for titles I might want to see myself. The more personal lists and the more varied they are, the better.
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1145 on: Dec 03, 2006 at 01:05 PM »
I always say this, lists are debatable. I thought they will put KISAPMATA tied with HIMALA on the number one spot. To place BONA with KARNAL put some of the people in our home throwing mugs on each other.  ;D

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1147 on: Dec 07, 2006 at 10:18 AM »
Managed to catch Insiang at Cinema one. I was struck by how short the film was. However, it shows a good grasp of how women are treated in our society. The only thing that makes the film seemed dated are the 70's outfits and hairdos but the mindset remains.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1148 on: Dec 07, 2006 at 02:39 PM »
I think it seems short (it's 95 minutes, about average for most Filipino films) because it's so compact, with so little fat, and Brocka gives it a real sense of urgency. Nice observation.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1149 on: Dec 07, 2006 at 08:15 PM »

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1150 on: Dec 11, 2006 at 09:44 PM »
Brocka to Boyet (de Leon) during a shoot: "tama na nga yung pa-Jack Nicholson (sp?) mo!"  ;D

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1152 on: Dec 14, 2006 at 12:03 PM »
Good one, oggs. You should try his other genre benders--Babaing Putik, uh, El Kapitan (or it may be under another title), and Z Man.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1153 on: Dec 14, 2006 at 12:38 PM »
Good one, oggs. You should try his other genre benders--Babaing Putik, uh, El Kapitan (or it may be under another title), and Z Man.

I saw Ang Babaeng Putik and was really impressed by it; especially the first half when it was all mood and atmosphere. I have yet to see his older films.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1154 on: Dec 17, 2006 at 08:11 PM »
BLUE JEANS (Joey Gosiengfiao)

It looks dated already. Saved by the music of the Apo Hiking Society which dominates most in the film still enjoyable if you want to dig those youth oriented flicks back in the early 80's. Cashing on the loveteam of Dina Bonnevie & Alfie Anido, the film also deals with life in college, early marriages and losing one's virginity. Its silly most of the times, I liked best the opening scene while the theme song was being played in the background.

The jeans worn by the cast is now long-forgotten. They should have used levis instead of Boogie jeans.  ;D
Gosiengfiao knows always the pulse of the youth. From UNDERAGE & BEDSPACERS, he was always at his best capturing those scenes inside the college campus.

Imagine Mary Walter as a senior prostitute, the likes of Albert Martinez losing their virginity while the song "batang-bata ka pa" was being played in the background and the trio of Apo as your college buddies, it can only happen in the movies of Joey Gosiengfiao.  ;D
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1155 on: Jan 01, 2007 at 11:31 AM »
Lav Diaz on MASAHISTA

"I liked ANG PAGDADALAGA NI MAXIMO OLIVEROS. Aureus got the milieu right! When MASAHISTA was offered to me, I said give it to Jeffrey and the others.

I will not give justice to it!"


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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1157 on: Jan 06, 2007 at 02:11 PM »
HAYOP SA HAYOP (Lino Brocka)

Three Brocka proteges in one film, Salvador, Koronel and Roco. The result is just your average Filipino film but still manage to raise the standard but not on the league of Brocka's best (MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG, ORAPRONOBIS, INSIANG, BONA).

Philip Salvador after robbing a bank trek to the countryside in the forest to hide with him half a million worth of cash together with his fiancee prostitute, Hilda Koronel, and best friend Bembol Roco. Don't be fooled by the title, Conrado Baltazar's stunning cinematography is still worth to look at!
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1158 on: Jan 06, 2007 at 02:54 PM »
DARNA AND THE GIANTS (Emmanuel H. Borlaza)

I liked the special effects especially the scene where the giants where wreaking havoc and attacking the town, very impressive. This type of scene alone can merit the artistic value of our filmmakers back in the 70's where CGI doesn't exist and became tiresome and pointless now in numerous Filipino films. From the music down to the cast, Borlaza scored a major breakthrough also in terms of camp value.

Too bad the showdown between X3X played to villain perfection by Helen Gamboa and Vilma Santos is too short.  ;D
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1159 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 07:48 PM »
HAYOP SA HAYOP (Lino Brocka)

Three Brocka proteges in one film, Salvador, Koronel and Roco. The result is just your average Filipino film but still manage to raise the standard but not on the league of Brocka's best (MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG, ORAPRONOBIS, INSIANG, BONA).

Philip Salvador after robbing a bank trek to the countryside in the forest to hide with him half a million worth of cash together with his fiancee prostitute, Hilda Koronel, and best friend Bembol Roco. Don't be fooled by the title, Conrado Baltazar's stunning cinematography is still worth to look at!


Hayop sa Hayop was just an average Brocka film but it's still notches above other Filipino movies. it was severely censored at the time it was shown, that's probably the reason why it tanked at the box office. it was supposed to be Hilda's first foray into boldness.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1160 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 07:56 PM »
It was Hilda's sexiest movie, more skin exposure than she did in INSIANG. Did they shot near Mt. Banahaw? I can't imagine the crew shooting in a remote location.

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« Reply #1161 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 08:00 PM »
It was Hilda's sexiest movie, more skin exposure than she did in INSIANG. Did they shot near Mt. Banahaw?

it is Hilda's most daring film... i'm not sure where they shot it but definitely not in Lucban, Quezon.

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1162 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 08:08 PM »
What could be the censored parts? its very tame, dude. But daring with Hilda & Philip.  ;)

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« Reply #1163 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 08:09 PM »
mostly 'yung paliligo ni Hilda sa falls the love scene nila ni Bembol sa cave and the one with Phillip sa kubo.

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« Reply #1164 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 08:13 PM »
That's kindergarten stuff, bro!  ;D anyway, Brocka knows how to infuse passion in his films like the one he did in INIT.

I can't imagine him directing Gallaga's SCORPIO NIGHTS.
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1165 on: Jan 08, 2007 at 08:17 PM »
not in 1978 when the film was shown...

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1166 on: Jan 09, 2007 at 03:28 PM »
What's the difference of the censors before and now?

I only discovered now the encounter between William Martinez & Emily Loren in the PRIDYIDER episode of SRR fully intact that I missed in 1984.  :o

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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1167 on: Jan 13, 2007 at 09:51 AM »
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Re: Filipino films
« Reply #1168 on: Jan 13, 2007 at 09:59 AM »
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« Reply #1169 on: Jan 13, 2007 at 01:40 PM »
Ah, SIC O'CLOCK NEWS that was so damn funny! The late Amado Lacuesta can switch from being serious to comic.

 HINUGOT SA LANGIT didn't found its audience because of the subject matter it tackles......abortion which our society still condemns up to now.