Author Topic: Filipino films (Read 500990 times)

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1380 on:** May 11, 2007 at 09:53 AM »

If I remember right, Orapronobis made the case that Aquino's cluelessness was worse than Marcos' tyranny, which took balls to state (who sez Brocka was a pansy?). I'm pretty clear what parts of the film are anti-Aquino (well, about two thirds of it), but not sure what, specifically, provoked the ban.

wedge · « **Reply #1381 on:** May 11, 2007 at 10:03 AM »

Was it because Aquino's government still supported those CAFGU-esque vigilantes and they were merely "ignorant" of the atrocities these groups committed? I saw the film again early this evening and I've been wondering. At some point, I thought it wasn't exactly subversive except for last sequence...

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1382 on:** May 11, 2007 at 03:07 PM »

Somewhere in the middle I remember Salvador saying something to the effect that this government is worse than the last one. Brocka himself kept saying it out loud: Cory is worse than Marcos.

But yeah, I'm sure hitting those vigilante groups didn't help the film, either.

keating · « **Reply #1383 on:** May 11, 2007 at 06:22 PM »

Cory's greatest achievement to Philippine Cinema is Kris Aquino. While the Marcos well, gave us ECP. I'm still thankful to them. Without Imelda's whim and kapritso, HIMALA, ORO PLATA MATA, SOLTERO and MISTERYO SA TUWA will not be made.

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1384 on:** May 11, 2007 at 06:39 PM »

it was also during the Aquino administration that moviegoers flocked to see those pene movies... in 1986 they even showed Celso Ad Castillo's Perfumed Garden in theaters uncut.

keating · « **Reply #1385 on:** May 11, 2007 at 06:45 PM »

I'm not saying that we should go back to Martial Law years, but come to think of it, the 2nd Golden Age of Philippine Cinema came out under the Marcos administration. If you will ask me, I want Imee back in producing avant-garde movies again.

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1386 on:** May 11, 2007 at 06:51 PM »

the best output of Filipino movies was definitely during the Marcos administration... years after, we have witnessed the slow decline of Philippine Cinema although there were a number of outstanding films but they were still not as powerful as the ones from the 70's & 80's...

keating · « **Reply #1387 on:** May 11, 2007 at 06:54 PM »

Couldn't agree more, Jo. The political angst of the movies were very much alive during the Marcos Regime.

Was Johnny Litton responsible for the spate of skin flicks that was shown in Manila Film Center?

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1388 on:** May 11, 2007 at 07:01 PM »

he's not fully responsible... it was the ECP's decision to show those films at the MFC since to they need more money to fund their projects most of which were subsequently shelved...

keating · « **Reply #1389 on:** May 11, 2007 at 07:21 PM »

Did they recoup their investment? I can't forget there the long lines when they show SCORPIO NIGHTS & HUBO SA DILIM.

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1390 on:** May 12, 2007 at 06:46 AM »

i'm not quite sure... most probably not, they never produced another movie under ECP after Misteryo Sa Tuwa...

keating · « **Reply #1391 on:** May 12, 2007 at 09:51 PM »

I remember Ishma during the screening of MANILA BY NIGHT at the Shangrila Cinema that even the Aquino administration, and Manoling Morato complained on his film, so they have to tucked in the mind-boggling narration at the end to have it shown for just even one screening during the late 80's.

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1392 on:** May 13, 2007 at 01:41 AM »

Well, Cory's a good Catholic girl--listens to the Cardinal and all. Which means she prolly got off on Passion of the Keerist.

sosy_high · « **Reply #1393 on:** May 13, 2007 at 03:25 PM »

kuya Noel, is it true na Tinimbang ka ngunit kulang was a box-office hit? How much does it earn?

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1394 on:** May 14, 2007 at 11:21 AM »

Ach, box office figures are difficult to get for present films, much less filsm from the 70s...Jojo, any idea? I heard they sold it to the university students. Not a big big hit, but it more than made its money back.

RMN · « **Reply #1395 on:** May 14, 2007 at 01:54 PM »

Tinimbang, if I read right, was CineManila Corp.'s first release and did well at the tills. This, I think, gave them the impetus and wherewithal to produce more films. Unfortunately, moneywise, it was downhill from there with Lino having to shoulder the debts incurred by the company in the end. A side note: the late Raul Roco and former Comelec Chair Christian Monsod were partners of CineManila.

sosy_high · « **Reply #1396 on:** May 14, 2007 at 02:06 PM »

^thanks!

so what is the most successful Brocka film ever?

RMN · « **Reply #1397 on:** May 14, 2007 at 02:10 PM »

In terms of box-office returns? Difficult to tell...

sosy_high · « **Reply #1398 on:** May 14, 2007 at 02:12 PM »

^yeah...why is it difficult?

I also heard from my mom that Himala was a cult-success in it's release

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1399 on:** May 14, 2007 at 04:35 PM »

I don't know about Himala. I would imagine Pasan Ko ang Daigdig was a moneymaker.

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1400 on:** May 14, 2007 at 06:28 PM »

Himala ranked number 2 at the 1982 MMFF immediately after it won most of the awards... Pasan Ko Ang Daigdig wasn't a hit even with the critics...

keating · « **Reply #1401 on:** May 14, 2007 at 06:51 PM »

It shot almost to the top after the awards night?

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1402 on:** May 14, 2007 at 07:09 PM »

it did! Himala was ECP's biggest money maker...

keating · « **Reply #1403 on:** May 14, 2007 at 07:26 PM »

LVN ad dated back in 1983 from Manila International Film Festival brochure.

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1404 on:** May 14, 2007 at 07:37 PM »

nice ad... too bad they already closed shop.

keating · « **Reply #1405 on:** May 14, 2007 at 07:40 PM »

Tony Gloria Unitel honcho and Butch Jimenez owns now LVN, right?

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1406 on:** May 15, 2007 at 01:41 AM »

Quote from: Jojo Devera on May 14, 2007 at 06:28 PM

Himala ranked number 2 at the 1982 MMFF immediately after it won most of the awards... Pasan Ko Ang Daigdig wasn't a hit even with the critics...

Goes to show you what I know about boxoffice. Would you know what was Brocka's biggest hit, Jo? And Bernal's while we're at it, and who was the more consistent moneymaker, if not who made the most money (I think the former is the easier question to answer)?

jdv1229 · « **Reply #1407 on:** May 15, 2007 at 06:27 AM »

it's hard to determine what was Brocka's biggest hit... it would most probably be Maging Akin Ka Lamang (1987). with Bernal it's definitely Working Girls (1984)... both films were produced by VIVA.

between the two, Bernal's films made more money most notably Pabling, Galawgaw & Bilibid Boys... Brocka's youth oriented fare such as Burgis & Hello Young Lovers barely broke even at the box office.

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1408 on:** May 15, 2007 at 03:01 PM »

You'd think the heartfelt Brocka would be the more beloved, than the sophisticated, cynical Bernal.

Or is the popularity of one based on misunderstanding--people thinking Bernal's comedies are more 'lighthearted'?

Sounds like the basis for some article right there somewhere.

Noel_Vera · « **Reply #1409 on:** May 15, 2007 at 03:04 PM »

I can tell you who profited more, though--Mother Lily used to say that Bernal was the smart one, Brocka the one who always came to her broke, asking for money. Instead of paying her back, he would work off the debt in movies for her.

Would things have been different if he broke into Hollywood? I don't know what kind of deals were being made then. Rissent wanted to distribute his filsm, that I know.