Topic: NEW PIONEER BLU RAY PLAYERS

[JAQY888]

NEW PIONEER BD PLAYERS  ....

    * BDP-LX91: LX Line Reference Blu-ray disc player (BD-Live / Profile 2.0)
    * BDP-LX08: LX Line ‘Designer’ Blu-ray disc player (BonusView / Profile 1.1)
    * BDP-LX71: LX Line Blu-ray disc player (BonusView / Profile 1.1)
    * BDP-51FD: Blu-ray disc player (BonusView / Profile 1.1)


CHART FOR COMPARISON OF THE PIONEER BD PLAYERS ....


The BDP-LX71 will be available in September. The BDP-51FD and the BDP-LX08 will arrive in October; the BDP-LX91 later this year.

All four players feature 1080p/24, HDMI-12-Bit Deep Color, KURO Link, 7.1 analog output, and are compatible with DTS-HD Master Audio / Dolby True HD. No pricing is available yet.

[JAQY888]

PIONEER BDP-LX91


PIONEER BDP-LX08

[eksi]

Sir Jaqy, have questions:
1. Do these model have coax output?
2. If it does, can i experience 7.1, dts-hd or dolby tru hd thru coax connection?

[JAQY888]

Sir Jaqy, have questions:
1. Do these model have coax output?
2. If it does, can i experience 7.1, dts-hd or dolby tru hd thru coax connection?

Hello bro eksi:
1. Not sure though if these players have digital coax connectors as info on the specs of these players are very limited as of this time. The players will be launched initially in Europe [later this year].
2. Assuming that these players do have coax connectors, IMHO, the coax connection cannot decode/output the newer high def audio formats. Only an HDMI connection has this capability. HDMI allows more than two channels of PCM (Pulse Code Modulation), or a multi-channel PCM, compared to the 2-channel of a coax connection. Further, HDMI supports the transmission of more types of codecs (compression methods) than a coax connection. HTH 

[eksi]

Thanks po sa reply.  I just still wander - there are 7.1 receivers but without HDMI input, do these receivers can only receive, at most, 6.1 input?

[alvinthx2]

Sir Jaqy, have questions:
1. Do these model have coax output?
2. If it does, can i experience 7.1, dts-hd or dolby tru hd thru coax connection?

No, you can't.. High resolution uncompressed audio (truehd and dts-ma) can only be passed via HDMI. coax is limited to 2 channel LPCM or compressed multichannel sound like dolby digital and dts.

[Mouldingo]

No, you can't.. High resolution uncompressed audio (truehd and dts-ma) can only be passed via HDMI. coax is limited to 2 channel LPCM or compressed multichannel sound like dolby digital and dts.

You can experience uncompressed audio since the player already decodes them internally and has 7.1 analogue outputs. All you need is a 7.1 amplifier/reciever. No need the coax or digital output.

[eksi]

You can experience uncompressed audio since the player already decodes them internally and has 7.1 analogue outputs. All you need is a 7.1 amplifier/reciever. No need the coax or digital output.

Clarification 1: How about if coax is the only available connection? Can't get 7.1 signal from a blue-ray player (with coax output) connected to a 7.1 receiver which has coax input?

No, you can't.. High resolution uncompressed audio (truehd and dts-ma) can only be passed via HDMI. coax is limited to 2 channel LPCM or compressed multichannel sound like dolby digital and dts.

Clarification 2: Does this mean that dts-ma (which is 7.1) will be converted to dts (5.1) or dts-es (6.1) if passed through coax?


 

[Mouldingo]

Clarification 1: How about if coax is the only available connection? Can't get 7.1 signal from a blue-ray player (with coax output) connected to a 7.1 receiver which has coax input?

Nope

Clarification 2: Does this mean that dts-ma (which is 7.1) will be converted to dts (5.1) or dts-es (6.1) if passed through coax?

Yup

[eksi]

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Clarification 2: Does this mean that dts-ma (which is 7.1) will be converted to dts (5.1) or dts-es (6.1) if passed through coax?

Yup Cheesy

Clarification 3: Given above, why a 7.1 amplifier can display 7.1 source (as seen in manual) but it has no hdmi input?

[Mouldingo]

Clarification 3: Given above, why a 7.1 amplifier can display 7.1 source (as seen in manual) but it has no hdmi input?

 

[eksi]

Clarification 3: Given above, why a 7.1 amplifier can display 7.1 source (as seen in manual) but it has no hdmi input?

 

This is what i'm refering too...

This is from manual of Denon 1907

[Mouldingo]

This is what i'm refering too...

This is from manual of Denon 1907

Does the Denon have 7.1 analog (RCA) inputs at the back? It should detect it (2) and display the source under "ANA." only.

[eksi]

Does the Denon have 7.1 analog (RCA) inputs at the back? It should detect it (2) and display the source under "ANA." only.

Yup, I saw in the manual it does have ext. in analog terminal for 7.1. Thank you for info.