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Title: TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 17, 2002 at 07:24 PM
Is there a talk show thread already?  ???

Anyway..... the only talk show I catch nowadays is Letterman because it's the only one available and conveniently shown around siesta time :).  I used to love watching talk shows. But I don't watch it as often anymore (so many other shows...so little time!)

On vacation back home in the late 90's, the cable provider from the province where I come from beams all sorts of talk shows from US (live)  --- Letterman of course, Leno, Conan (my favorite), Martin Short's show, Craig Kilborn's show etc.

At one point,  Arsenio Hall had his own talk show, right?  Would have loved to watch at least an episode of Rosie's show (Survivor episoded) just to see what the hype was all about.  Of course we get to see Oprah on two channels here (cable and Studio 23)...and that tacky show by Jenny Jones on Studio 23 also (pero when I watch it, I still stay glued to the set, hehehe! ;D). And there's Jerry Springer (is he still on air?) and tons of other talk shows that we don't get to hear about except on the news.

Then there are the morning shows (Today, Fox and Friends, Good Morning America --- meron pa ba nito?) which our own local morning shows pattern after.  We have ASYM, Unang Hirit and the shows on Studio 23 (Breakfast), all of which serve as my alarm clock ;D...and then at around noon we have the two competing networks' girl-talk shows (Morning Girls and Sis). And then there are  those showbiz talk shows on channel 2 and 7 and Sunday talk shows of Sharon and Mel and Jay and the late night show of Martin (meron pa ba?)....I remember Edu had a very good talk show a few years back........I could go on and on....

So let's talk...about talk shows....and why don't they ever run out of topics to talk about? ;D  
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: xage on Sep 17, 2002 at 07:34 PM
Edu Manzano,Martin Nievera, Boy Abunda sino pa ba??

hmmm...

BTW Jerry Springer is more of Sports Entertainment as his show is choreographed like pro wrestling
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 18, 2002 at 01:24 AM
i've said it once and i'll say it again...

Letterman is a GOD!!! ;D

guilty pleasure is of course OPRAH. heehee.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: stuntwoman on Sep 19, 2002 at 11:22 PM
Letterman is a GOD!!! ;D

hahaha! indeed he is! but i actually enjoy Conan more than Letterman.

and yes, Martin still has his show, but i don't get to watch it anymore.

i like Sharon's show, but it's a little weird at times. sometimes it's like a variety show because of all the singing. and it's funny how she's become a little like Oprah when it comes to her weight: she's thin, she's fat, she's thin... :)
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: TwelvStep on Sep 19, 2002 at 11:28 PM
nice to know that a lot of  you have good taste, haha. conan and letterman are my favorites. i absolutely cannot stand leno anymore. killborn is really funny, and so is jon stewart. but i feel they kinda lack some charisma that i see in both conan and letterman. besides, no one else has triumph the dog for a sketch.

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sophie on Sep 20, 2002 at 01:29 AM
hey, i like conan, too! :) letterman comes second, and i only watch jay leno when he has good guests.

do you any of you get to watch the morning shows? i like unang hirit, but it seems that ever since suzi got in, they're all starting to talk like her. kay suzi bagay, even cute. but linching and rea sound nye when they talk like suzi.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 20, 2002 at 01:32 AM
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[quote author=sophie
do you any of you get to watch the morning shows? i like unang hirit, but it seems that ever since suzi got in, they're all starting to talk like her. kay suzi bagay, even cute. but linching and rea sound nye when they talk like suzi.


kikiligin si suzi with that i'm sure ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 20, 2002 at 02:08 AM
A RECENT CONAN INTERVIEW WITH A MAGAZINE



--What's the main difference between hosting a talk show and hosting the Emmys? [/i]
When you're hosting the Emmys, no one gives a damn about you. The whole audience is thinking about themselves. So I have to make it as much about them as possible to keep their interest. Celebrities are like 4-year-old children. They are constantly thinking about their own needs -- and they soil themselves.

--The Emmys received a lot of press this year for nominating cooler shows. How will you reflect that in your hosting style? [/i]
I'm gonna devote the first three minutes of my monologue to a minor character on ''The Shield,'' and it'll be so hip and inside that I'll be the only one laughing.... I'm gonna make a lot of arbitrary references to Nelly and Alicia Keys. And I'm gonna keep talking about ''the chronic,'' even though in my case it will be referring to a chronic lower-back pain.

--Don Knotts won five Emmys for his work on ''The Andy Griffith Show'' but was never even nominated while on ''Three's Company.'' Discuss.[/i]
I believe that had he not tied a scarf around his neck, the Mr. Furley character would have won seven back-to-back Emmys. Also, as Furley, he was replacing Roper, and I think that's just a hole you can never climb out of.

--Were you hurt that you weren't nominated for Outstanding Hairstyling? [/i]
I am quite offended. I've had the people from Industrial Light & Magic contact me: ''How do you do that with your hair?'' Like, the people that created the lightsaber want to know how my hair does the things it can do.

--Although you won an Emmy in 1989 as a writer on ''SNL,'' your talk show has come up short six consecutive times. So tell us, is it really ''just a thrill to be nominated''? [/i]
No, it's a thrill to get a deep massage in the upper thigh -- nominated I wouldn't say is a thrill. It's kind of like being told you've been called for jury duty. It means you've gotta go, you've gotta show up. People think the Emmys are really exciting, but it's just a high school assembly with better skin.

--If blondes have more fun, what do redheads have? [/i]
Sensitivity to light.

--What did you learn at Harvard that prepared you to host a talk show featuring a masturbating bear? [/i]
Absolutely nothing. I think my time would have been better spent at the DeVry Institute than at Harvard. There's somebody out there who was going to cure cancer, but didn't because I took that slot. And instead, I used it to get The Masturbating Bear into as many homes as possible, probably causing cancer.

--If there were a talking Conan doll, what would it say when you pulled the string? [/i]
''Sorry about my self-hate.''

--What would happen if all the late-night talk-show hosts had a sleepover party? [/i]
Wow. That would be dysfunction junction. I can imagine a lot of things, but I can't imagine Letterman and Leno giggling and having a pillow fight. I'd pay a lot of money to see that -- the two of them giggling, wearing feet-y pajamas, and hitting each other with pillows.

--And what would you be doing? [/i]
Me? I'd be watching my own show and saying ''Shhhh -- here comes the funny part!''



brilliant. ;D

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sophie on Sep 20, 2002 at 02:25 AM
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kikiligin si suzi with that i'm sure ;D

haha! i know. :)

"--What would happen if all the late-night talk-show hosts had a sleepover party? "

that's got to be the funniest question i've ever heard! haha!

now why can't we have talk show hosts as brilliant as conan? dang.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Sep 20, 2002 at 02:51 AM
Definitely Conan, Definitely Letterman.
Just don't ask me to choose between the two. It'll be like asking me to choose between a blueberry cheesecake and a date with Cameron Diaz (although, I'd have more chance with the cake scenario).

Arsenio Hall had a d@mn, funny show way back when. I always waited for the time when he introduced the audience sitting on the side (one time, it was "The Audience on the Wrong D@mn Show", and the audience members were a bunch of redneck Klansmen clad in white hoods. They kept barking and waving the Arsenio wave as they were being chased from the stage).

I used to watch it during the old Far East Network (FEN) times. Then it appeared on SBN 21 when that old UHF channel used to be cool, but now SBN is... well... you've all seen how the channel is now, right?

Sayang, Arsenio got canned because he invited controversial black extremist Louis Farrakhan. I got to see that show.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 20, 2002 at 07:04 AM
Dami palang may gusto kay Conan! ;) I remember laughing so hard when he auditioned a couple of guys to form his boy band, at that time when boy bands where popping here and there. That was one hilarious segment!

I forgot to add that there are several talk shows over at ANC (Cito, Julie, Boy Abunda, etc...) and of course, there's Larry King.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: xage on Sep 20, 2002 at 07:19 AM
To Conan fans,

Did you konw that red haired  talk show guy is a magna cum somethin in Harvard...
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 20, 2002 at 09:34 AM
Of course! He's not only funny, he's brilliant. Graduate of PolSci or History or something that's not related to his job, very opposite of his job.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: utoy on Sep 20, 2002 at 11:52 AM
hey, i like conan, too! :) letterman comes second, and i only watch jay leno when he has good guests.

do you any of you get to watch the morning shows? i like unang hirit, but it seems that ever since suzi got in, they're all starting to talk like her. kay suzi bagay, even cute. but linching and rea sound nye when they talk like suzi.

hey i watch unang hirit too. :)

suzi has been there from the start, before rhea and lyn went in to join the gang. rhea talks nothing like suzi. well, lyn and suzi are best buds, so ...

me, suzi fan too. also rhea. :) me babbling idiot.

i like letterman, then conan.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: The Stig on Sep 20, 2002 at 02:33 PM
Dami palang may gusto kay Conan! ;) I remember laughing so hard when he auditioned a couple of guys to form his boy band, at that time when boy bands where popping here and there. That was one hilarious segment!


hey cruzsack that is definitely one of the funniest sketches conan's ever done. i believe he named the group "Dudes a'Plenty" ;D i especially liked the second one where he had one of the nsync kids as a guest and tried to convince him to join his  boy band. hilarious indeed ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 20, 2002 at 02:46 PM
Oh, yeah! Dudes A Plenty! Hahahahahah! I was trying to remember the group's name. And he gave the guys funny names also. Pero they did a great number, diba? Pasa na as boy band talaga. I didn't catch that episode with NSYNC sayang!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 20, 2002 at 11:46 PM
has anyone read the speech conan gave to Harvard students? that was so well written. i wish all graduation speech-givers would stop giving "important" snore-inducing speeches and have a sense of humor like conan. or letterman. or both.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 21, 2002 at 11:06 AM
Where can we read that sungit? Is it on the net?  :)

By the way, I'm just curious...what is it about Leno that you don't like? He is the most likeable talk show host in Hollywood (daw....next to Oprah?), but from the post here, he comes in second/third to Conan and Letterman (who has rubbed a few stars the wrong way many times)....What is is about Leno? Lame jokes? Too nice? His voice?  ;D

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 21, 2002 at 12:23 PM
By the way, I'm just curious...what is it about Leno that you don't like?

What is is about Leno? Lame jokes? Too nice? His voice?  ;D

E alam mo naman pala, nagtatanong ka pa!  :P

By the way, you left off "His big chin."

Seriously, other than "lame jokes and whiney voice," the guy's show is basically a forum to plug actor's movies. They ALL are, but in his case, it's so straightforward and boring. He will always bring up an early career move or nude scene that's embarrassing for the guest. The rest of his banter feels so rehearsed - it feels like he got researchers to do a profile on the stars, and he uses the profile to formulate "appropriate" questions.
 
He does not have the "expect the unexpected" feel of Letterman or Conan. They can go off tangentially and catch their guests off-guard with really "out there" questions, making for really entertaining late-night television.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: The Stig on Sep 21, 2002 at 12:31 PM

By the way, I'm just curious...what is it about Leno that you don't like? He is the most likeable talk show host in Hollywood (daw....next to Oprah?), but from the post here, he comes in second/third to Conan and Letterman (who has rubbed a few stars the wrong way many times)....What is is about Leno? Lame jokes? Too nice? His voice?  ;D


I think the only thing working for Leno is he usually gets the best guests. But this is mainly because he never asks good, controversial questions, which i guess makes the guests feel safe, but tends to result in boring interviews. Letterman in my opinion, does the best interview, meaning he can bring out the true character and intelligence of the guest. conan on the other hand, is just so damn funny and doesn't mind making fun of his guests, who are usually less popular but more interesting, so it works for him :)
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 21, 2002 at 12:50 PM

E alam mo naman pala, nagtatanong ka pa!  :P



 :P ka rin.  ;D

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 21, 2002 at 12:52 PM

conan on the other hand, is just so damn funny and doesn't mind making fun of his guests, who are usually less popular but more interesting, so it works for him :)

Ah, yes...he does that very well, doesn't he?
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 22, 2002 at 12:56 AM
leno is too bland for my taste. i like my late night talk show hosts spicy! and from new york!

unfortunately i have no idea where to access tht speech. i got it from e-mail kasi. sayang kasi it was really the funniest commencement speech i've read in my entire laugh. reading it was like hearing the royal red-head himself... ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: kings5504 on Sep 22, 2002 at 01:02 AM
any show with a masturbating bear in it is tops in my book...   ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 22, 2002 at 01:12 AM
hey what about letterman's segments?? i personally look forward to:

will it float?
cbs mailbag
stupid human tricks
stupid pet tricks
and those segments where they put outn people in costumes on the street to try to freak people out

for example, after the success of signs, letterman wanted to see if new yorkers will get shocked by the sight of aliens in a regualr coffee shop. so he sent ten people in alien costumes. of course no one noticed so he sent out (in no order) moses, a cowboy, ronald mcdonald, a dog, a bear, a fat spiderman, santa claus, a gorilla... ang dami! the cafe was brimming with people in costumes.  it was the stupidest thing i've ever seen on TV and i loved him for it!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: acidburn on Sep 22, 2002 at 02:39 AM
i like letterman too but i hate the stupid pet tricks. Actually i hate the animals when they're on leno too.  ::)

To be fair, leno has some funny segments too like those funny ads and jaywalking. Also Jay seems to interview kids better than letterman.
Title: Conan's Speech
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 22, 2002 at 01:01 PM
Found it, sungit :) (Hey, by the way, Say Anything is on cable this morning, you saw it?)

From Harvard Magazine's site:

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Comedian Conan O'Brien '85, Class Day Speaker for the Aughty-Aughts

I'd like to begin by thanking the class marshals for inviting me here today. The last time I was invited to Harvard it cost me $110,000. So I was reluctant to show up. I'm going to start before I really begin by announcing my one goal this afternoon. I want to be half as funny as tomorrow's Commencement speaker, moral philosopher and economist Amartya Sen. That's the job. Must get more laughs than seminal wage-price theoretician. By the way, enjoy that. Bring a calculator. It's going to be a nerd fest.

Students of the Harvard class of 2000, 15 years ago I sat where you sit now. And I thought exactly what you are now thinking. What's going to happen to me? Will I find my place in the world? Am I really graduating a virgin? Still have 24 hours. Roommate's mom very hot. Swear she's checking me out. There was that Rob Lowe movie.

Being here today, on a sincere note, is very special for me. I do miss this place. I especially miss Harvard Square. Let me tell you, you don't know this, Harvard Square is extremely unique. Nowhere else in the world will you find a man wearing a turban and a Red Sox jacket working in a lesbian bookstore. I'm just glad my dad's working.
 
It's particularly sweet for me to be here today because--this is true--when I graduated I wanted very badly to be a Class Day speaker. Unfortunately, my speech was rejected. So if you'll indulge me I'd like to read a portion of that speech. This is the actual speech from 15 years ago. "Fellow students, as we sit here today listening to that classic A-ha tune which will definitely stand the test of time, I would like to make several predictions about what the future will hold. I believe that one day a simple governor from a small southern state will rise to the highest office in the land. He will lack political skill, but will lead on the sheer strength of his moral authority. I believe that justice will prevail and one day the Berlin Wall will crumble, uniting East and West Berlin forever under Communist rule. I believe that one day a high-speed network of interconnected computers will spring up worldwide, so enriching people that they will lose their interest in idle chitchat and pornography. And finally, I believe that one day I will have a television show on a major network seen by millions of people at night which I will use to reenact crimes and and help catch at-large criminals." Then I had a section on the death of Wall Street, but you don't need to hear about that.
 
The point is that although you see me as a celebrity, a member of the cultural elite, a demigod if you will, and potential husband material, I came here in the fall of 1981 and lived at Holworthy Hall as a student much like you. I was, without exaggeration--this is true--the ugliest picture in the freshman facebook. When Harvard asked me for a picture the previous summer, I thought it was for their records, so I jogged in the August heat to a passport photo office and sat for a morgue shot. To make matters worse, when the facebook came out, they put my picture right next to Catherine Oxenberg, a stunning blonde actress who was expected to join the class of '85, but decided to defer admission so she could join the cast of Dynasty. Folks, my photo would have looked bad on any page, but next to Catherine Oxenberg, I looked like a mackerel that had been in a car accident.
 
You see, in those days, I was 6 feet 4 inches tall and I weighed 150 pounds. True. Recently, I had some structural engineers run those numbers into a computer model, and according to the computer, I collapsed in 1987, killing hundreds in Taiwan.
 
After freshman year, I moved to Mather House. Mather House, incidentally, was designed by the same firm that built Hitler's bunker. In fact, if Hitler had conducted the war from Mather House, he would have shot himself a year earlier. Saved us a lot of trouble.
 
1985 seems like a long time ago now. When I had my Class Day, you students would have been seven years old. Seven years old! You realize what that means? Back then I could have beaten any of you in a fight. And I mean really badly. Like no contest at all. If anyone here has a time machine, seriously, I will kick your seven-year-old butt right now.
 
A lot has happened in 15 years though. When you think about it, we come from completely different worlds. When I graduated in 1985, we watched movies starring Tom Cruise and listened to music by Madonna. I come from a time when we huddled around the TV set and watched the Cosby Show on NBC, never imagining that there would one day be a show called Cosby on CBS. In 1985 we drove cars with driver's-side air bags. But if you had told us that one day there would be passenger-side air bags, we'd have burned you for witchcraft.
 
Of course I think there is some common ground between us. I remember well the great uncertainty of this day, the anxiety. Many of you are justifiably nervous about leaving the safe, comfortable world of Harvard Yard and hurling yourself headlong into the cold, harsh world of Harvard grad school, a plum job in your father's firm, or a year abroad with a gold Amex card and then a plum job at your father's firm. Let me assure you that the knowledge you gained here at Harvard is a precious gift that will never leave you. Take it from me, your education is yours to keep forever. Why, many of you have read the Merchant of Florence, and that will inspire you when you travel to the island of Spain. Your knowledge of that problem they had with those people in Russia, or that guy in South America--you know, the guy--will be with you for the rest of your life.
 
There's also sadness today. A feeling of loss that you're leaving Harvard forever. Let me assure you that you never really leave Harvard. The Harvard fundraising committee will be on your ass until the day you die.
 
This is true. I know for a fact that right now a member of the alumni association is at the Mount Auburn Cemetery shaking down the corpse of Henry Adams. They heard he has a brass toe ring and they aim to get it. These people just raised $2.5 billion and they only got through the Bs in the alumni directory. Here's basically how it works. Your phone rings, usually after a big meal when you're tired and most vulnerable, and a voice asks you for money. Knowing--you've read in the paper--that they just raised $2.5 billion, you ask, "What do you need it for?" There is a long pause, and the voice on the other end of the line says, "We don't need it, we just want it." (Sinister laugh).
 
Let me see--by your applause--Who here wrote a thesis? That's nice. A lot of hard work went into that thesis. And no one is ever going to care. I wrote a thesis--this is true, I don't lie--"Literary Progeria in the Works of Flannery O'Connor and William Faulkner." Let's just say that during my discussions with Pauly Shore, it doesn't come up much. For three years after graduation I wanted to show it to everyone, and so I kept my thesis in the glove compartment of my car, so that I could show it to a policeman in case I was pulled over.
 
What else can you expect in the real world? Let me tell you. As you leave these gates and re-enter society, one thing is certain. Everyone out there is going to hate you. Never tell anyone in a roadside diner that you went to Harvard. In those situations, the correct response to, "Where did you go to school?" is "School? I never had much in the way of book learnin' and such." And then get in your BMW and get the hell out of there. Go.
 
You see, kids, you're in for a lifetime of "And you went to Harvard?" Accidentally give the wrong amount of change in a transaction, and it's "And you went to Harvard?" Ask at the hardware store how the jumper cables work, and hear "And you went to Harvard?" Forget just once that your underwear goes inside your pants, and it's "And you went to Harvard?" Get your head stuck in your niece's doll house 'cause you want to see what it's like to be a giant, and it's "Uncle Conan, you went to Harvard?"
 
So you really know what's in store for you after Harvard, I have to tell you what happened to me after graduation. I'm going to tell it simply, I'm going to tell it honestly, because, first of all, I think my perspective may give many of you hope, and, secondly, it's such a cool, amazing rush to be in front of 6,000 people and just talk about yourself. It's just great. It's so cool. And I can take my time.
 
You see, kids, after graduating in May, I moved to Los Angeles. I got a three-week contract at a small cable show. I got a $380-a-month apartment, a terrible dump, and I bought a 1977 Isuzu Opal, a car Isuzu only manufactured for a year because they found out that technically it's not a car. Quick tip, graduates--no four-cylinder used vehicle should have a racing stripe.
 
So I worked on that show for about a year, feeling pretty good about myself, when one day they told me that they were letting me go. I was fired. I hadn't saved any money. So I tried to get another job in television as best I could and couldn't find one. So with nowhere else to turn--true story--I went to a temp agency and filled out a questionnaire. I made damn sure that they knew I had been to Harvard, that I had written this thesis, and that I expected the very best treatment. And so the next day I was sent to the Santa Monica branch of Wilson's House of Suede and Leather.
 
When you have a Harvard degree, and you are working at Wilson's House of Suede and Leather, you are haunted by the ghostly images of your classmates who chose graduate school. You see their faces everywhere--in coffee cups, in fish tanks, you think you're going crazy, and they're always laughing at you as you stack suede shirts no man in good conscience would ever wear.
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Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 22, 2002 at 01:03 PM
cont..

I tried a lot of things during this period. Acting in corporate infomercials. Serving drinks in a nonequity theater. I even took a job entertaining at a seven year-old's birthday party. In desperate need of work, I put together some sketches and scored a job at the fledgling Fox network as a writer and performer for a brainy show called the "Wilton North Report." I was finally on a network and really excited. The producer told me the show was going to revolutionize television. And, in a way it did. The show was so hated and did so badly that when four weeks later news of its cancellation was announced to the Fox affiliates, they burst into spontaneous applause.
 
Eventually, though, I got a big break. I had submitted along with my writing partner a batch of sketches to Saturday Night Live, and after a year and a half they read it, and they gave us a two-week tryout. The two weeks turned into two seasons, and I felt, hey, this is success, I'm successful now. Successful enough to write a TV pilot for an original sitcom. When the network decided to make it, feeling good, I left Saturday Night Live.
 
This TV show was going to be groundbreaking. It was going to resurrect the career of TV's Batman, Adam West. It was going to be a comedy without a laugh track or a studio audience. It was going to change all the rules. And here's what happened. When the pilot aired, it was the second-lowest-rated television show of all time. It is actually tied with a test pattern they show up in Nova Scotia.
 
So I was 28 and, once again, no job. I had good writing credits in New York, but I was filled with disappointment and I had no idea what I was going to do next. And that is when the Simpsons saved my life. I got a job there and started writing episodes about Springfield getting a monorail or Homer going to college. I was finally putting my Harvard education to good use--writing dialogue for a man who is so stupid that in one episode he forgot to make his own heart beat. Life was good.
 
And then an insane, inexplicable opportunity came my way, a chance to audition for host of the new "Late Night" show. I took the opportunity very seriously, but at the time--I have to be honest--I had the relaxed confidence of someone who knew he had no real shot, so I couldn't fear losing a great job that I could never hope to have. And I think that actually that attitude made the difference.
 
I will never forget being in the Simpsons recording basement that morning when the phone rang. It was for me. My car was blocking a firelane. But a week later I got another call and got the job. So this, finally, was undeniably it. The truly life-altering break that I had always dreamed of. And so I went to work. I gathered all my funny friends and poured all my years of comedy experience into building the show over the summer. I gathered the talent, figured out the sensibility, found Max, found Andy, found my people. We debuted on September 13, 1993, and I was really happy, really happy, with our effort. I felt like I had seized the moment, that I had put my very best foot forward.
 
And this was what the most respected and widely read television critic, Tom Shales, wrote in the Washington Post. "O'Brien is a living collage of annoying nervous habits. He giggles and jiggles about and fiddles with his cuffs. He has dark, beady little eyes like a rabbit. He is one of the whitest white men ever. O'Brien is a switch on the guest who won't leave: he's the host who should never have come. Let the Late Show with Conan O'Brien become the late Late Show, and may the host return to whence he came." There's more, but it gets kind of mean.
 
Needless to say, I took a lot of criticism, some of it deserved, some of it excessive, and, to be honest with you, it hurt like you would not believe. But I'm telling you all this for a reason. I've had a lot of success. I've had a lot of failure. I've looked good. I've looked bad. I've been praised. And I've been criticized. But my mistakes have been necessary. I've dwelled on my failures today because, as graduates of Harvard, your biggest liability is your need to succeed, your need to always find yourself on the sweet side of the bell curve. Success is a lot like a bright white tuxedo. You feel terrific when you get it, but then you're desperately afraid of getting it dirty, of spoiling it.
 
I left the cocoon of Harvard, I left the cocoon of Saturday Night Live, I left the cocoon of the Simpsons. And each time it was bruising and tumultuous. And yet every failure was freeing, and today I'm as nostalgic for the bad as I am for the good. So that's what I wish for all of you--the bad as well as the good. Fall down. Make a mess. Break something occasionally. Know that your mistakes are your own unique way of getting to where you need to be. And remember that the story is never over.
 
If you'll indulge me for just a second, I'd like to read a little something from just this year. "Somehow, Conan O'Brien has transformed himself into the brightest star in the late-night firmament. His comedy is the gold standard, and Conan himself is not only the quickest and most inventive wit of his generation, but quite possibly the greatest host ever."
 
Ladies and gentlemen, class of 2000, I wrote that this morning. As proof that when all else fails, you always have delusion. I will go now to make bigger mistakes and to embarrass this fine institution even more. But let me leave you with one last thought. If you can laugh at yourself, loud and hard, every time you fall, people will think you're drunk. Thank you.
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Lucky kids! ;D
 

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: qwerty765 on Sep 22, 2002 at 02:37 PM
Conan was brilliant on that speech!!

I like Conan, Jay Leno and David Letterman...in no particular order...sayang they used to show Jay's and Conan's show everynight here via CNBC, ngayon twice a week na lang, replay pa yung Sunday...

Whatever happened nga pala sa sidekick ni Conan? I like them both when they are doing the "In the year 2000" segment sa show, particularly with David Duchovny as guest, very funny.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 22, 2002 at 06:42 PM

I like Conan, Jay Leno and David Letterman...in no particular order...sayang they used to show Jay's and Conan's show everynight here via CNBC, ngayon twice a week na lang, replay pa yung Sunday...


Where are you at qwerty? What's your cable provider? Do you still get to watch them? What time? I think I may be missing something, sayang!!!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: qwerty765 on Sep 22, 2002 at 07:00 PM

I like Conan, Jay Leno and David Letterman...in no particular order...sayang they used to show Jay's and Conan's show everynight here via CNBC, ngayon twice a week na lang, replay pa yung Sunday...


Where are you at qwerty? What's your cable provider? Do you still get to watch them? What time? I think I may be missing something, sayang!!!

OOOPS! wala na ba sa CNBC? I haven't watch na for a while (nasa gimikan pag Saturday) but as far as I know, they are still shown on CNBC (ch. 35 on Destiny) every Saturday, not sure about the time, maybe around 10:30, magkasunod yung Jay Leno then Conan...also, if I'm not mistaken, CNBC airs the replay on Sundays...hmmm, check ko nga uli mamya
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 22, 2002 at 08:50 PM
OOOPS! wala na ba sa CNBC? I haven't watch na for a while (nasa gimikan pag Saturday) but as far as I know, they are still shown on CNBC (ch. 35 on Destiny) every Saturday, not sure about the time, maybe around 10:30, magkasunod yung Jay Leno then Conan...also, if I'm not mistaken, CNBC airs the replay on Sundays...hmmm, check ko nga uli mamya

You're not mistaken. They still show it on CNBC, 10pm-12mn/1am-3am Saturdays and Sundays.

I think the problem is for SkyCable subscribers, since they no longer get CNBC, and Channel 11 also lost their rights to show CNBC programming.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: qwerty765 on Sep 22, 2002 at 10:11 PM
Yeah, I tuned in to CNBC just to check  out if the Tonight Show is still on, unfortunately kasabay nya yung tungkol sa pyramids sa Nat Geo, so doon muna ako sa pyramids.

Is that true, CNBC is no longer on Sky/Home cable? Buti na lang I switched to Destiny!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Sep 22, 2002 at 11:23 PM
Whatever happened nga pala sa sidekick ni Conan? I like them both when they are doing the "In the year 2000" segment sa show, particularly with David Duchovny as guest, very funny.

Andy has his own show now but he drops by from time to time. Sometimes, they do the "In the year 2000" when he's there. They do the segment with other guests now but it ain't the same without Andy.

I'm watching the 11-12 Sunday Conan now. Al Franken's the guest and Jason Lee later. This one was broadcast at 2-3 this morning.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: j@y on Sep 23, 2002 at 02:02 PM
My favorite talk show is David Letterman and Conan O'Brian. I'm able to watch conan on cnbc and did you know a the 2-3am replay early this morning his guest was the "Meadow"(sorry forgot her name) from The Sopranos.
 Also I'm so glad David Letterman won the award in a Variety, Music or Comedy Series. ;D ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Holly Golightly on Sep 23, 2002 at 02:41 PM
Yeah, I tuned in to CNBC just to check  out if the Tonight Show is still on, unfortunately kasabay nya yung tungkol sa pyramids sa Nat Geo, so doon muna ako sa pyramids.


Hehe. Pareho kayo ng nanay ko. I missed the West Wing season premiere tuloy.

Anyhoo, I preferred Conan in the old days, though I still love him now. Does anyone remember the 1997-ish shows, when he had The World's Biggest Karaoke Machine? Almost died laughing when Jacky Chan came on and sang. The background was all yellow sunflowers and stuff pa naman.

Letterman rocks. My favorite segment ever was when Dave presented discount LPs, and they found one of Imelda Papin's - the one where she recorded a duet with Imelda Marcos. Feelings yata. Mockery ensued - climaxing with Dave saying "I finally figured out why she was kicked out of the country."
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 23, 2002 at 02:51 PM
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Letterman rocks. My favorite segment ever was when Dave presented discount LPs, and they found one of Imelda Papin's - the one where she recorded a duet with Imelda Marcos. Feelings yata. Mockery ensued - climaxing with Dave saying "I finally figured out why she was kicked out of the country."


hahahaha! or that time they found a clip of some pilitician (john ashcroft ba?) singing some stupid song that sort of went "when the eagles soar...". letterman kept making fun of that for a week.

i also find his mission to guest on oprah endearing. i really hope she gives in na.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 23, 2002 at 02:58 PM
Tell me about that Oprah and Letterman nga...got to watch him (Letterman) lang when he began his Oprah log, middle of the logbook na.

Uh-oh....something is wrong with my post. Is it me or is something the matter with the forum?
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Sep 23, 2002 at 06:42 PM
Letterman just gave up one day with the Oprah campaign.  :(
It was sudden and unexpected. I think by that time the whole thingy had run for a few months. Sayang... we still had so much hope. Maybe he knew something we didn't?

Oh yeah, CrUzSACK, something IS weird with your post. maybe a misplaced tag, perhaps?

 ??? :o and this one, too.  :o What the!? ???
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 23, 2002 at 10:28 PM
it's LENO trying to sabotage the Letterman-Conan Lovefest! aarrrgghh!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Sep 23, 2002 at 11:13 PM
 :o This looks like a job for... The Masturbating Bear!!! :o

...And his sidekick, Triumph -- The Insult Comic Dog! :o

 ;DWith Paul Schaeffer and the CBS Orchestra!!! ;D

Save us, oh wacky ones, from the Jaywalking gremlins...

...we await your splendifirous light of salvation...
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Sep 25, 2002 at 04:33 PM
Do guys (as in male members of this forum) watch OPRAH and get weepy too?  ;D I was watching Oprah last night,  their 9/11 Mother's Day episode. The first segment, iyak na ako agad.  ::)  ::) ;D Don't know if I should post it here or in another thread....But i'll go ahead anyway... ;D

They featured this story about an 8 (ata) year old boy who lost his mother on 9/11.  Their family waited for 10 days for news and the boy was told "Mommy is missing" or lost or something like that. After day 10, the family accepted that she was gone and Daddy had to break the news to the little boy.  They caught it on camera and the father and son conversation was heart-breaking! :'(

It went something like this:

Daddy: I have something to tell you, sir (He calls his son sir or mister)...and then he says, "Remember we told you Mommy is missing....." and so on. And the little boy was parang playing ata, walang paki (like most children when you want to "get serious" with them) and then the little boy blurted out;

Boy: Oh daddy! There's this street you go to when you're lost in New York! Did they find Mommy there? (Parang ganun yung sinabi) Is Mommy coming home?

Daddy:  Nope, sir (or mister). Mommy's not coming home. Mommy...is dead.

You know what the boy did? He paused (parang processing what his dad just told him) and hugged his daddy (Daddy was sitting on the steps, boy was standing in front of Daddy) and burst into tears and said "I don't want her to die!!"

Then they cut that scene and segued to Oprah (who parang had a ball of yarn caught in her mouth, she was in tears rin, anybody who saw that would be in tears!)  I was alone watching that show, If anybody walked in the room and saw me, they'd probably think I had a major LQ or something :P! Of course, I was also crying (out loud pa, bigay na bigay!);D

And then Oprah said that that film or video will be produced by (who else?) HBO and it's entitled Telling Nathan (ata, couldn't remember the name of the boy!). Basta it's Telling <boy's name here>...

This is the reason why I haven't watched Oprah in so long! Too much drama... >:( After watching that segement,  I decided to switch to watching The Godfather on DVD instead.  :-\ The hubby don't like watching Oprah too. He thinks she's too self-absorbed. So do you guys watch Oprah?
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Bruce_Wayne on Sep 25, 2002 at 05:04 PM
Just by reading CrUzSACK's post made me cry na  :'(   what more kung napanood ko yun.   Kaya nga di ako nanonood ng ganyan eh.   Parang Maawa-awa Ka Kaya ng Channel 2   :P
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Sep 25, 2002 at 07:11 PM
And then Oprah said that that film or video will be produced by (who else?) HBO and it's entitled Telling Nathan (ata, couldn't remember the name of the boy!). Basta it's Telling <boy's name here>...

This is the reason why I haven't watched Oprah in so long! Too much drama... >:( After watching that segement,  I decided to switch to watching The Godfather on DVD instead.  :-\ The hubby don't like watching Oprah too. He thinks she's too self-absorbed. So do you guys watch Oprah?

Nope *sob* I don't watch Oprah *sob* *sob*  :-[
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: flyderman on Sep 26, 2002 at 06:16 PM
Everything about Conan has already been said, but just in case Conan himself reads this thread, he'd know I'm a fan of his show.  ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 29, 2002 at 03:46 AM
did anyone catch the post-emmy shows of letterman? it was a pretty solid week of great writing, guests (bruce willis, reese witherspoon, and jack hannah were hoots!), and pure letterman magic. i've never laughed this consistently watching him for an entire week.

his potshot of the week: oprah's dr. phil. ;D

"Last night they gave us an emmy for being the greatest show ever."
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: dobler on Sep 29, 2002 at 04:01 PM
did anyone catch the post-emmy shows of letterman? it was a pretty solid week of great writing, guests (bruce willis, reese witherspoon, and jack hannah were hoots!), and pure letterman magic. i've never laughed this consistently watching him for an entire week.

his potshot of the week: oprah's dr. phil. ;D

"Last night they gave us an emmy for being the greatest show ever."

Yup, I totally agree with you. David's been on the top of his game and his show is way better than Jay Leno's. NBC just knows how to promote better than CBS.

My favorite Dr. Phil quote so far:

Sometimes it's really hard to see yourself without a mirror.

BTW, for Jon Stewart fans, I think CNN just began airing a global edition of The DailyShow last night. Hope it turns out to be a weekly thing  ;D

Kate Hudson was on the show promoting Four Feathers...

 
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Sep 29, 2002 at 10:41 PM
when and what time??? :o
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: dobler on Sep 29, 2002 at 11:26 PM
when and what time??? :o

I'm not sure. I just caught the last 15 minutes while flipping thru the channels. Maybe 10 pm, Manila time. CNN International has yet to update their skeds online.

At the end of last night's episode, it was mentioned that the global edition of the Daily Show is exclusively being produced by Comedy Central for CNN International.

I guess CNN finally noticed that CNBC Asia was airing Jay Leno and Conan O' Brien on weekends.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: USP on Oct 08, 2002 at 10:07 PM
did anyone catch the post-emmy shows of letterman? it was a pretty solid week of great writing, guests (bruce willis, reese witherspoon,....

Have any of you watched Reese Witherspoon in the 1991 film Man In The Moon or Wildflower (also 1991 I think).  Man, she showed great talent even at a young age.  

Too bad she doesn't get roles where she can show it off.  Election (with Mathew Broderick) was OK though.

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Centurion Obama on Oct 16, 2002 at 05:43 AM
Jon Stewart!  Jon Stewart!  Jon Stewart!

i love the theme song of that show.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: The Stig on Nov 10, 2002 at 09:13 PM
Anybody else notice there hasn't been Leno and Conan these past two weekends? Any word on this? Were they just pre-empted(they've been showing golf at the talk show time slots) or are they gone for good? ??? >:(
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Nov 10, 2002 at 11:29 PM
Hopefully, they've just been bumped for a few weeks in favor of the celebrity golf tourney.

Else, kahit si Conan na lang ang ibalik. Or Dilbert, at least.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 11, 2002 at 01:35 AM
Anybody else notice there hasn't been Leno and Conan these past two weekends? Were they just pre-empted
or are they gone for good? ??? >:(

Not that I've been watching either of them recently, but checking the CNBC Asia Program Schedule (http://www.cnbcasia.com/showtimes/showtimes.asp), they seem to be GONE FOR GOOD.

Wow... now Destiny subscribers have lost even more programming...  :-[
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Nov 11, 2002 at 09:39 PM
LENO i can live without. but CONAN?? gone?? what the hell's going on in TV land?? is this my karma for something i did in the past?? lord stop punishing this lowly couch potato! :'(
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: flyderman on Nov 12, 2002 at 07:36 PM
Gone were the days where it's Leno and Conan every night, something to look forward to esp. whenever your day sucked.  What a good way to end the day with the Late Night show. :)

And, Leno really isn't that bad before.  He just seems to get lamer and lamer in time.  I saw a recent episode where he's interviewing a comedian, and not one trace of delight in his face amidst all those jokes.  I'd even go so far as think that he's bitter because he couldn't conjure such antics no more.  Old age, perhaps?
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 11, 2003 at 05:05 PM
Conan I like. A worthy replacement to Dave.  He's earned it through the years after a rocky start. No one can beat Triumph the Insuld Comic Dog.  Not even Eminem.

Jimmy Kimmel - an avowed Dave-worshiper.  He now has his own show Jimmy Kimmel Live! on ABC competing against Dave and Leno (altho 30 mins late).  Just before his first show, he goes to Dave's show to hawk it.  

Jon Stewart - the only other talk show host that can make you laugh out loud it wakes up the wifey.  CNN has a Global Edition of the Daily Show 12.30 am Sunday and Monday.  Probably the funniest half-hour on television.

But Dave.  Dave I love. Dave is without parallel.  Pound for pound, he's worth his weight in gold.  Plus, he has the strength of ten men!

Without a doubt the sharpest, edgiest, most innovative late night talk show ever.  

Will it float?  How many guys in a bear suit can you fit in a coffee shop?  Fun with Rupert, a head set and a camera!  The Oprah Log!  Dr. Phil's Words of Wisdom! Pat and Kenny Read Oprah Transcripts! And just last week,  The Late Show Iraqi of the Night!

And who does this to Kate Hudson?

(http://wwwimage.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/exclusives/wahoo/images/ls_ex_wahoo_20030203.jpg)


It's a ful-service show! Truly, there is no 'off' position on the genius switch.

Sure Leno trounces him on the ratings on a regular basis.  But that's because people watch Leno to help them fall asleep.  Anyways, who needs ratings when ya got six emmys (five of them all in a row the past five years)?

(http://wwwimage.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/exclusives/wahoo/images/ls_ex_wahoo_20020923.jpg)

Dave.  The First Name in Late Night Entertainment.


Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 12, 2003 at 09:49 AM
Letterman Rules! Lately, I've been looking forward to his Dr. Phil segment. ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 14, 2003 at 03:00 PM
Hey CrUzSACK, guys:

Rumor has it Dr. Phil will be on the Late Show Monday, February 17 to, umm, exorcize Dave's demons.

This I gotta see!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mrs. T on Feb 14, 2003 at 11:35 PM
Letterman Rules!

Definitely !!!  The best one was when he had Madonna a few years back. I wished I had the vcr taping. That was just hilarious.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Reuven Malter on Feb 15, 2003 at 04:52 AM
loved the drew barrymore episode too!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 17, 2003 at 11:53 AM
Did you hear about that guy from Parañaque who almost made Dave sprain his tongue saying the word "Parañaque?"

Yep, folks.  The Valentine's Day episode of the Late Show featured an email from "Roneil Marcelo of Parañaque City, Philippines."  Dave read it and couldn't pronounce the name of the place.  Para.. parano... Paranokie?

The email: "Dear Dave, Can you introduce to me the 'Late Show' models?"

E! Philippines is going to air the episode again tonight.  Hopefully.  Arrright Roneil!  Whoever you are!
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 17, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Did you hear about that guy from Parañaque who almost made Dave sprain his tongue saying the word "Parañaque?"


Yup saw it.

It was actually in the portion called CBS Mailbag. The Pinoy's letter was the 2nd one Dave read.  Dave couldn't pronounce Paranaque, he said it as "Purr-en-nya-ki". And he asked help from Paul (band).

You could actually submit a letter to CBS Mailbag. They have a link on Dave Letterman's site over at CBS, they provide a little box for your e-mail questions there. Who knows, they might read your letter next. :)

Tomorrow on Dave, Dr. Phil! ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 18, 2003 at 02:43 PM
I still prefer Leno over Letterman, Leno is a nice guy while letterman I think in my humble opinion is bitter.  He is bitter at NBC for choosing Leno, bitter at Oprah for not guesting in his show and bitter at Leno specially.  And I think his the most lousy host Oscars ever had if not the worst, mas ok pa yung pag-hohost ni Conan ng Emmys eh.

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Feb 18, 2003 at 06:13 PM
Wasn't Dr. Phil qouted as saying "I'm gonna open up a can of whoop @$$ on him" regarding Dave? Or was that just worldwide pants editing, again?  :)
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: slowhand on Feb 18, 2003 at 06:38 PM
I think it's possible to appreciate both Dave and Jay, and I do. Jay is a more mababaw, masa type humor and he does look like a nice guy. Dave's witty as hell. When Clinton came on Dave's show, I thought, "Leno can't do this." But Dave hardly could keep up himself.

There was an interesting TV movie, sort of biopic, about the two of them.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Feb 18, 2003 at 06:41 PM
It was a satire, I think. It also showed how Jay's former manager was booted out.

I'm not surprised, she would have run Jay's career to the ground if she wasn't fired. But she was responsible for his success. Go figure.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 18, 2003 at 07:40 PM
Oh yes, your talking about "The Late Shift" I think its based on a book.  The former manager of Leno even sued the producers of that TV Movie.  

One thing I noticed about Letterman too, he often result to race bashing, he I think is a closet racist, Jay on the other hand is more tactful when it comes to racial jokes and issues and he is not too insulting to other artist, well except when it comes to John Tesh, hope got my spelling right, which appeared gamely on his show even.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Feb 18, 2003 at 08:02 PM
I only saw that once on HBO. The actor for Leno was very much satirical. His chin was so sharp and big, it could be classified as a deadly weapon.  ;D
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 18, 2003 at 08:10 PM
lol yes your right, he can pass as a caricature.  Even the way he speaks and that voice.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 18, 2003 at 08:23 PM
I only saw that once on HBO. The actor for Leno was very much satirical. His chin was so sharp and big, it could be classified as a deadly weapon.  ;D

Saw that too!  The actor who played Leno was one of Tommy Lee Jones' people in the movie US Marshall, I think.
Title: Dr. Phil on Dave
Post by: utoy on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:47 AM
I didn't catch it last night and I was hoping to read about it today. Hindi pala original ang "Ilalabas ko ang ang aking salamin." ni Ate Girl Abunda. Hee.

Dr. Phil roasts back (http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/02/18/showbuzz/index.html#2)
NEW YORK (AP) -- Self-help guru Dr. Phil proved to David Letterman that he can dish it as well as take it.
 
Making a guest appearance on Letterman's show Monday, Phil McGraw pulled out a note card and read off the list of names he's been called during the late night talk show host's relentless ribbing over the past few months. "Pinhead," "evil genius" and "half-baked quack" were among the nicer ones.

McGraw proved he had a sense of humor -- and that he could give as good as he got. He said he had a few openings on his show for Letterman next week. "We're going to do neurotics next Tuesday," he said. "We're going to do psychotics next Thursday and Friday."

Asked to define a neurotic, McGraw requested a mirror for Letterman. "Diagnosing would be 15 or 20 seconds," he said, "and fixing would be 15 or 20 years."

Letterman took the punches, and praised McGraw for having "a certain measure of equanimity" for coming on as a guest.

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 19, 2003 at 01:07 PM

Last night's show was a gem.  Dave came in on a snowmobile with Andrea (or is it Nadine?) and Kiva (the grinder girl) in tow.  It was cool, if only because we rarely get to see Letterman on the street and far from his desk nowadays.

Dr. Phil knew what he was doing.  He came prepared to dish it out to Dave who gamely let him.  Once he sat down, Dr. Phil yelled, "Gimme my check! I want my check! I've been a regular on this show for six months! Where's my check!" I didn't realize Words of Wisdom has been on that long.

Then he took out a list of all the things he's been called on the show by Dave.  It included "pinhead", "bonehead", "quack", "half-baked quack", "evil genius" and "300-pound bully" among other sweet sounding names.

He even had a "Dave Letterman's Words of Wisdom" ready where Dave said something like "Being a lesbian is a life-long commitment."

When Dave asked him to describe a neurotic, Dr. Phil asked for a mirror.

About Oprah, Dr. Phil said Dave shouldn't worry about it -- and for that matter, what Dave thinks other people think of him --  too much.  He said something like, people would have lesser problems if they knew how little other people think about them.  Which brought a smile to Dave's face.

Dave was right. It was big of Dr. Phil to come and sit with him. Dave was worried Dr.Phil would come in steaming mad and even asked Paul to "take him" if he tries to pull anything. Other celebrities who've been on the receiving end of Dave's pot shots don't want nothing to do with Dave.  Well, the good doctor it turns out, is a fan of the Late Show (says he watches a lot of it) and even finds the segment funny.  Like Dave said, some people get it, some don't and Dr. Phil is one of the few who do.


Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Feb 19, 2003 at 02:59 PM
it was hilarious! the entire show was a hoot. i have new found respect for dr. phil, standing up and holding his own against dave. the man's got a great bag of witty comebacks.

now if only oprah would guest on the show...
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Dan on Feb 19, 2003 at 06:54 PM
Did Dave come in on a snowmobile? Argh. My tape only got the monolouge. Darn timer recording.

It was nice to see Monty (Steph) again  ;D

Can't wait for Oprah. Now, She HAS to come on or else, it'll look bad.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Feb 19, 2003 at 11:35 PM
was kinda hoping dave would do his Oprah Log bit today after dr. phil's guesting last night. oh well, maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 19, 2003 at 11:44 PM
it was hilarious! the entire show was a hoot. i have new found respect for dr. phil, standing up and holding his own against dave. the man's got a great bag of witty comebacks.

now if only oprah would guest on the show...

Well thats funny to us but I don't think Oprah should guest on the show.  Ano si Letterman sinuswerte di lalong mang proprovoke siya so that the controversial victim would show up in his show and earn him the rating and the green bucks.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: sungit on Feb 19, 2003 at 11:50 PM
mr. big boy, it's all in good fun  ;D

i honestly feel dave's being ver sincere with this oprah thing. and his 'reconcilliation' ep with madonna was pretty good... i think he's man enough to behave with oprah.
Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 20, 2003 at 12:08 AM
Sana wag-magagalit ang mga Letterman fans sakin dito, pero I find Letterman to be plastic and his jokes, good as they are, seems like rehearsed and calculated.  Anyway its nice to believe that this is all in good fun but when it involves multi-million dollar contracts and revenues doing something in the spirit of good fun seems, well hilarious.  Anyway were not just talking about Oprah here, but alot of her fans have taken offens at what Dave does to her.  Im not Oprahs fan just to be clear.

And about Madonnas "reconciliation" episode, well what can I say she is MADONNA - and dave knew she is who she is.  If she is Cindy Lauper I think Dave would have not bothered, besides wasnt it Dave who threw Lenos hands of reconciliation a couple of times? He was even quoted bad mouthing Jay right?

Title: Re:TV Talk Shows
Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 20, 2003 at 06:03 AM
I find Letterman to be plastic and his jokes, good as they are, seems like rehearsed and calculated.  Anyway its nice to believe that this is all in good fun but when it involves multi-million dollar contracts and revenues doing something in the spirit of good fun seems, well hilarious.  

IMO, most late-night talk show guys have rehearsed and calculated jokes.  And most, if not all, late-night talk shows earn a living (and ratings) by making fun of people. Even Leno.

I'm really a CONAN fan, and like Letterman, Conan has his share of celebrities who hate him because of the things that he do on his show. Pero, David has more. ;D David probably would like to come off as someone who's a jackass, which really actually contributes to his show being the #1 late night show.

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Dan wrote:
It was nice to see Monty (Steph) again


I like this woman! ;D

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Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 20, 2003 at 10:31 AM
Sorry you feel that way, Mr. Big Boy.  Like our man Dave says, either you get it or you don't... ;D
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Post by: sungit on Feb 20, 2003 at 11:14 AM
amen to that  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 20, 2003 at 01:41 PM
I find Letterman to be plastic and his jokes, good as they are, seems like rehearsed and calculated.  Anyway its nice to believe that this is all in good fun but when it involves multi-million dollar contracts and revenues doing something in the spirit of good fun seems, well hilarious.  

IMO, most late-night talk show guys have rehearsed and calculated jokes.  And most, if not all, late-night talk shows earn a living (and ratings) by making fun of people. Even Leno.

I'm really a CONAN fan, and like Letterman, Conan has his share of celebrities who hate him because of the things that he do on his show. Pero, David has more. ;D David probably would like to come off as someone who's a jackass, which really actually contributes to his show being the #1 late night show.

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Dan wrote:
It was nice to see Monty (Steph) again


I like this woman! ;D



Is that true? I wasn't aware that Dave is now the number 1 late night show.  The last time I saw the ratings it was Jay number 1, fallowed by Ted Koppel number 2 and Letterman comes in at number 3 only.
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Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 20, 2003 at 02:07 PM
Don't know sa ratings pero sa Emmy Awards, Dave always wins. I think 3 or 4 years in a row na?
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Post by: Dan on Feb 20, 2003 at 02:52 PM
Yes, Dave is the #1 ranked late night TV show. At least that's what I saw in a report a couple of months ago. Leno is, too, but his ranking is not as consistent as Dave's. I think they look at the overall rankings in terms of number of shows, years, etc. I'll check the nielsen and E websites later.

In some quarters of the year, Conan rates just as good as Leno. I'm not really surprised though. Leno is not as irreverent. For one thing, Leno doesn't have "Triumph: The Insult-Comic Dog"! ;D

What lends to the success of Dave and Conan is probably their ability to self-deprecate. they can dish it out as much as they can take it in. Leno does too but he's not as liberal with the insults. And if he does insult a celebrity, he apologizes to them whenever they guest on the show.

Conan and Dave do not.

Even back in the Carson days, you'll see shades of O'Brien and Letterman. Leno's a bit of a watered down version of Carson and it's no secret who he wanted as his successor.

All the talk-show hosts are being paid skyrocket amounts to do the things that they do and it's unfair to say that Dave's the only multi-millionaire out there. Leno and Letterman are in the same leauge, they just do things differently

Leno can be just as "plastic" as Dave and vice-versa. Even more so (what's with all that on-air advertising anyway?)

Leno badmouths Dave too (remember? Sometimes in that phone-in viewer portion of Leno. Some callers ask for Dave), but they really are very good friends. Acquaintances, at least. That's why malakas ang loob nila to trade on-air barbs.

Oprah should guest. It would be weird if she didn't. Even with all the cracks at her, she's a prominent public figure and Dave's well within the boundaries of doing whatever he can to have her on the show. She should be flattered.

To quote from Bro. JDelaCruz, "Like our man Dave says, either you get it or you don't...  ;D"

Sungit Dave should re-start the Oprah log!

CrUzSACK I love Steph! She's sooooooo cute :)

I was surprised to see the metal grinder lady is now part of the late show babes. Is her name Kiva? What's the name of the blonde/redhead late show babe? Isn't it Michelle?
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 20, 2003 at 04:53 PM
Well we can't second guess Oprah, she's the one taking all the insults and cruel jokes from Dave.  We know what Oprah went thru in her life, only an insensitive guy would keep on insulting a lady whose been thru alot and who already made it abudantly clear that she does not appreciate what Dave is dishing out at her expense.  Sure its fun to watch him insult all this celebrities, thats why he keeps on doing it, but to what end, money ofcourse, di naman tayo naive.  Some people can take it, good for them but some can't he should have drawn the line from there.  Thats why for me Leno is alot better, in a sense that he know when to be funny and when to behave.

I like watching Dave too as an entertainer but I cant say the same about his character.  He reminds me of Jerry Springer in a way or Jenny Jones while Leno is in the same league as Oprah and Larry King not as controversial but intelligent.  Insults are the easiest form of comedy so I dont find host and comedians who relly heavily on them as good.  And Dave is far from being Johnny Carson infact Johnny's demeanor and delivery are more similar in style with Leno's style.

As for being the No.1 show, I still doubt it very much that Dave is no. 1.  Leno has been or is still on the no.1 position for a long time now kaya kahit e average ang overall ratings siya pa rin and lalabas on top.
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Post by: Dan on Feb 20, 2003 at 06:33 PM
Well we can't second guess Oprah, she's the one taking all the insults and cruel jokes from Dave.  We know what Oprah went thru in her life, only an insensitive guy would keep on insulting a lady who been thru alot and who already made it abudantly clear that she does not appreciate what Dave is dishing out in her expense.  Sure its fun to watch him insult all this celebrities, thats why he keeps on doing it, but to what end, money ofcourse, di naman tayo naive.  Some people can take it, good for them but some can't he should have drawn the line from there.  Thats why for me Leno is alot better, in a sense that he know when to be funny and when to behave.

I like watching Dave too as an entertainer but I cant say the same about his character.  He reminds me of Jerry Springer in a way or Jenny Jones while Leno is in the same league as Oprah and Larry King not as controversial but intelligent.  Insults are the easiest form of comedy so I dont find host and comedians who relly heavily on them as good.  And Dave is far from being Johnny Carson infact Johnny's demeanor and delivery are more similar in style with Leno's style.

As for being the No.1 show, I still doubt it very much that Dave is no. 1.  Leno has been or is still on the no.1 position for a long time now kaya kahit e average ang overall ratings siya pa rin and lalabas on top.

Potato, po-ta-to. Tomato, to-ma-to.

For Conan fans who miss their favorite insult comic dog, here's a link:

http://www.triumphtheinsultcomicdog.com/

Ba't pa kasi nag program change ang CNBC...  >:(

Does anyone remember Triumph's appearance at the Video Music Awards where he faced off with Eminem?  ;D
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Post by: CrUzSACK on Feb 20, 2003 at 07:50 PM
CrUzSACK I love Steph! She's sooooooo cute :)


She is, isn't she? She could probably have her own show too.  What's her job really?  Dave's assistant at the office?  

Mr. Big Boy - opposite naman tayo, you find Dave plastic ako naman I find Leno "ma-showbiz" sometimes.  :)  I used to like Leno over Letterman pero #1 talaga si Conan.
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Post by: Dan on Feb 20, 2003 at 08:01 PM
Yes, she is Dave's assistant. I think there are 5 of them in the office that are assistants.

She's very deadpan kasi and seems to live in her own world. Very quirky. She might become what Dave did for Tony Mendez, the cue card boy ('ya know? The Tony Mendez Show on the Internet?)

Conan is also a big fan of Letterman. He was the only one who wished him well during Dave's quintuple bypass surgery.
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Post by: JdelaCruz on Feb 21, 2003 at 12:48 AM
Hey peeps!

I'm afraid our Mr. Big Boy is right.  Ratings-wise (as in Nielsen Ratings) Dave has been trailing Leno for quite a while now.  When Dave went over to CBS to go head to head with Leno, his ratings shot through the roof and was promptly crowned King of Late Night.  But after a couple of years or so, Dave slumped, Leno overtook him and never looked back.  It got so bad at times that even Tom Brokaw beat him for second place to Leno.  Things only picked up when Dave came back from a quintuple by-pass, and then again after the 9/11.  In fact, according to Variety, the Dr. Phil episode was the first time Dave topped Leno in 3 years!

The existing theory is that Dave is too wacky for late night.  If you're all set to go to bed after a long day's work, the last thing you want is a jolt of adrenaline from laughing your ass off at something like "Words of Wisdom" or "Pat and Kenny Read Oprah Trascripts".  In other words, people watch Leno to help them fall asleep, that's why he's tops in the ratings.  ;D

However, Dan is right too in that Dave's is ranked the #1 Late Show around.  In terms of approval from the critics, popularity on the internet, influence in the industy, it's Dave who tops the list.  Last year, in a TV Guide ranking of the best TV shows of all time Late Show was No.7 (or is it 5).  Seinfeld was No.1.  The Tonight Show by either Carson or Leno didn't figure in the top twenty (or in the list at all iirc).  And Dave is credited for doing a lot in helping America back on its feet by airing live on the Monday after the 9/11 attack while all the others still had their thumbs up their arses wondering what to do.  

Hey, like we say, who needs ratings when you got six Emmys, five of them all in a row for the past 5 years?

Sorry for the long post.

PS. Tonight on the Big Show:  CSI chick Marg Helgenberger and musical guest The Flaming Lips (yep, they're still around.)
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Post by: sungit on Feb 21, 2003 at 02:06 AM
i remember watching an episode of conan before where john tesh guested, after years of being conan's butt of all insults -- much like dr. phil's guesting on dave. and it was a prett good show. john tesh was very good natured and conan was on his best behavior.

another guest i love seeing on dave is richard simmons. thinking about him now makes me giggle in front of my computer screen.

like is said, it's all in good fun... and these celebrities know it ain't anything personal.

one leno segment i couldn't stand was when he'd have this huge head and start insulting audience members for being so dumb. poorly written and very unfunny. some are even painful to watch.

i miss my conan tuloy. no more weekends with my favorite carrot top  :-[
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Post by: utoy on Feb 21, 2003 at 10:26 AM
In some quarters of the year, Conan rates just as good as Leno. I'm not really surprised though. Leno is not as irreverent. For one thing, Leno doesn't have "Triumph: The Insult-Comic Dog"! ;D

That dog has a name? Eto yung pinapanood mo sa amin nun di ba? The dog that humps every light saber it sees. I'd stay up late for Conan just to see that.  ;D
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Post by: Dan on Feb 21, 2003 at 02:27 PM
That dog has a name? Eto yung pinapanood mo sa amin nun di ba? The dog that humps every light saber it sees. I'd stay up late for Conan just to see that.  ;D

One of the best segments in Television Talk Show history is Triumph, The Insult Comic Dog. See link in above posts to go to his official website.

Yup, dude. That's the VCD I lent to Wilde. All in all I have 12 Triumph segments in there courtesy of Bro. Flyderman.

Hindi lang Lightsaber ang tinira ni Triumph. You should have heard him plead right in front (actually, to the side) of J.Lo's face at the Video Music Awards:

"J. LO....PLEASE...!!! LET ME SNIFF YOUR BUTT!!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! FOR A DOG, IT'S LIKE CLIMBING MOUNT EVEREST!!!

I love this mutt (rottweiler, actually...)!  ;D
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Post by: JdelaCruz on Mar 13, 2003 at 09:21 AM
You guys catch Vince Vaughn guest-hosting Late Show with David Letterman last night? (Dave's been sidelined by the shingles.)  He rocked big time.  Pretty d@mn good job.  Best guest host so far (ever?). Hope you guys saw it.

Here's a sample of his monologue from the website:

“Welcome to the Late Show. There’s been a regime change.”
“I’m Vince Vaughn. You loved me in ‘Swingers.’ You rented me in ‘Made.’ You missed me entirely in ‘Psycho.’”
“I’m here for a very good reason. I answered the phone.”
“Dave has the shingles. That’s show business for drying out in Malibu”
“By the way, anyone here tonight who wants to leave now to go see ‘Old School,’ perfectly okay.”


Upcoming guest hosts:

Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Elvis Costello Thursday tonight, SNL's Will Ferrell tomorrow night and Will & Grace's Megan Mullaly night after that.

Intersting eh?
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Post by: sungit on Mar 13, 2003 at 02:58 PM
you know who'd make a GREAT guest host? Jerry Seinfeld. i wonder why they haven't called him yet.
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Post by: Dan on Mar 13, 2003 at 03:06 PM
I'd like to see Robin Williams or Janeane Garofalo take a stab at it.
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Post by: The Stig on Mar 13, 2003 at 11:38 PM
or maybe Steve Martin :)
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Post by: Dan on Mar 17, 2003 at 02:23 PM
i think elvis costello did a great job. medyo iba 'yung style, kinda different humor, but still. it was cool  :)
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Post by: sungit on Mar 17, 2003 at 10:19 PM
did anyone catch will ferrell's guest stint? it was so funny! i couldn't stop laughing at his deadpan delivery plus his guests (chris rock and my fave weird actor crispin glover) were a riot. will did a job worthy of dave's buck-toothed smile.
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Post by: Mrs. T on Mar 18, 2003 at 06:21 AM
It'd be interesting to see Bill Clinton host a talk show. Or maybe just a guest host at The Man Show on Comedy Central. He'll have Hillary and Monica as his guest... at the same time.  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Post by: CrUzSACK on Mar 26, 2003 at 07:26 AM
Anybody caught Paul Shaffer hosting Letterman last night? Great show! Paul could host the Oscars and do a real fine job at it. By the way, what did happen to Letterman? Didn't catch why he had to be away for....almost a month?
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Post by: The Stig on Mar 26, 2003 at 12:32 PM
Yup saw the show yesterday. Paul did do a good job didnt he? He was a lot better than i would have thought. Next up for guest host is Bill Cosby.  :)

Btw, Dave has the shingles. From what i've heard, he should be back pretty soon.
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Post by: sungit on Mar 27, 2003 at 02:55 AM
i never knew shingles was such a serious ailment... serious enough to put Dave out for a month  :-\ glad he'll be back soon. i'm sure his comeback ep will be a blast! full of self-deprecating jokes  :D
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Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Mar 27, 2003 at 06:14 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

How about local channels?  Like Morning Girls

Grabe!  Kikay talaga ni Kris.  But they make a great team.   ;)
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Post by: Dan on Mar 27, 2003 at 08:09 PM
Hey, Paul did a great job last night. It was like Dave never left.

I never thought of Paul as the second banana, more likely just the band leader. My mistake. who's up next?Cosby?
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Post by: JdelaCruz on Apr 04, 2003 at 11:03 AM
Hey guys, Dave's been back since Monday and funny as ever.  Hope you've been watching.

BTW, starting April 1 until further notice, the show's now on at 9:00PM Tuesday to Saturday on E! Philippines.  One hour earlier than usual due to some station reprogramming.
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Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 14, 2004 at 05:36 PM
This just in, from Reuters:

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Oprah Winfrey Opens 19th Season with Car Giveaway
Mon Sep 13, 2004 03:43 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Television host Oprah Winfrey had a surprise for the 276 members of her studio audience when she opened the latest season of her daytime talk show on Monday -- she gave them all new cars.

The $7 million giveaway came courtesy of General Motors, which provided the free Pontiac G6 sports sedans, a new line of cars, as part of a promotional deal with Winfrey's Chicago-based show, a spokeswoman for her Harpo Productions said.

The automotive handout introduced a "Wildest Dreams Come True" theme for the 19th season of "The Oprah Winfrey Show," which has reigned as the top daytime talk programs in U.S. syndication since its debut in 1986.

"No dream is too wild, no surprise too impossible to pull off," Winfrey said during the telecast.

The show opened with Winfrey calling 11 members of the audience to the stage and surprising them with the new car. She then handed out gift boxes to the rest of the audience, saying one of them contained the keys to a 12th free car. At the count of three, the boxes were opened all at once, revealing to shrieks of delight that everyone had won a set of keys.

Winfrey then led the ecstatic crowd outside the studio to a parking lot filled with G6s topped with big red bows. Each member of the audience was instructed to contact a Pontiac representative to personally customize the actual cars they will receive, allowing them to choose the color and features that come with a fully loaded model.

"We've never done a giveaway like this before," Harpo spokeswoman Carly Ubersox told Reuters.

She said most members of the audience had been specially selected from letters sent in advance by viewers on behalf of themselves, friends or family who were in need of a new car. But the audience members were kept in the dark about the nature of the show until it was taped.

Winfrey also gave away a four-year college scholarship, $10,000 wardrobe and make-over to a young woman who spent her teen years in foster care and homeless shelters. And a family with eight foster children was presented with a new houseful of furniture and electronics plus a $130,000 check to cover their mortgage and home repairs.

Grabe, the woman is just so amazing and generous; and this isn't even her "My Favorite Things" shows. Suwerte talaga if you get to be a member of her studio audience.
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Post by: Reuven Malter on Jun 29, 2006 at 07:27 AM
Pickle Phobia on Maury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S89Y4shxtE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egawker%2Ecom%2F)  :o
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Post by: Mr. Hankey on Jun 29, 2006 at 08:42 AM
Pickle Phobia on Maury (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S89Y4shxtE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egawker%2Ecom%2F)  :o

Even more frightening than that is the fact that I caught the actual episode on ETC 2nd Avenue.  :o

 ;D
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Post by: Mr. Hankey on May 21, 2015 at 03:09 PM
I just watched the final episode of Letterman. End of an era.

#ThanksDave