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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: jaytl on Jan 10, 2007 at 10:59 PM
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the old sony bravia s series 40 inch is being offered at a lowered price of 139k only with so many freebies (handycam worth 22k, home theater worth 15k and crt tv 21" worth around 14k). i think this is the model with no hdmi yet but at that price, which was originally at 169k last month, i think it's a really good offer. the salesman told me that they are just selling all the stocks left since the new models have arrived. this model though is the last, that is made in japan. the new sony bravia models are now being manufactured in malaysia as i've been told.
listening room is offering the Toshiba 37WL66E for 89k only but can be bought zero interest for 6 months. im not exactly sure about the specs of this model but seems to be a good buy as well.
im still deciding which tv to buy or wait a few more months before taking the plunge. what do you guys think?
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the old sony bravia s series 40 inch is being offered at a lowered price of 139k only with so many freebies (handycam worth 22k, home theater worth 15k and crt tv 21" worth around 14k). i think this is the model with no hdmi yet but at that price, which was originally at 169k last month, i think it's a really good offer. the salesman told me that they are just selling all the stocks left since the new models have arrived. this model though is the last, that is made in japan. the new sony bravia models are now being manufactured in malaysia as i've been told.
listening room is offering the Toshiba 37WL66E for 89k only but can be bought zero interest for 6 months. im not exactly sure about the specs of this model but seems to be a good buy as well.
im still deciding which tv to buy or wait a few more months before taking the plunge. what do you guys think?
i cant really remember if the s series sony has hdmi or not. but assuming it doesnt the toshiba would be definetly the better buy. :)
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if wala ngang HDMi yung Sony 40", then go get the Tosh 37" na lang.... :o
para at least HD ready na... remember, BD and HDVD requires HDCP - that's why you need to consider having an HDMI.... :-X
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Yeah, perhaps you can look into a set that has offer HDMI with HDCP & with at least 720p as this will ensure your investment is protected should you decide to migrate & experience HD movies (it's easier too). By next year those HD players price will keep dropping making it more affordable than a flashy latest Nokia cellphone :)
You may want to consider the 1-year old 42" SONY 3LCD HDTV projection TV (EF series) at 720p which cost less than 120k. It receives great reviews. It has HDMI input. :)
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what would be the better choice between Toshiba 37WL58 and sharp 37bx5m..??
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my vote goes to the toshiba,
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toshiba, becuase its cheaper
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If Toshiba price meets both of your budget & requirement, then the choice is obvious. ;)
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i've been hearing negative feedback regarding after sales service of toshiba from salesmen of lcd tvs. i'm not sure if this is true. i guess compared to sony and samsung, which have dedicated contact centers, then toshiba is not really at par with them.
also, im just wondering why prices of toshiba lcds in stores like listening room are very far from pricing of regular appliance stores like abensons, SM, etc. (around 20k difference) is it really true that you only get store warranty if you buy from stores like listening room unlike when you buy it from abensons whose warranty is straight from toshiba?
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what would be the better choice between Toshiba 37WL58 and sharp 37bx5m..??
sharp w/ CSD not like other brand authorized service center lang
37AX5m 99,998.00 12 months to pay w/o free item
37BX5m 135,998.00 12 month to pay with freebies
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sharp w/ CSD not like other brand authorized service center lang
37AX5m 99,998.00 12 months to pay w/o free item
37BX5m 135,998.00 12 month to pay with freebies
ARe these units with HDMI? When I inquired these sharp LCDs below P100k at SM Appliance MOA wala pang HDMI
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nerveblocker, kelan k nag tanong sa MOA? un 37bx5m sa sm appliance ng MOA is 95k nalang without freebies.. may 2 hdmi connector na yan.. try - www.sharp.ph for more info.
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ARe these units with HDMI? When I inquired these sharp LCDs below P100k at SM Appliance MOA wala pang HDMI
2 HDMI input
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what would be the better choice between Toshiba 37WL58 and sharp 37bx5m..??
Sharp commands about 55% of the LCD HDTV market in Japan
Sony has about 30%
The remaining 15% is shared by Toshiba, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, and the rest.
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Mga sir, if lcd lang talaga hanap nyo Toshiba talaga, it has multiple inputs, its cheap, easy to repair and high resolution pa. ;)
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another thing to consider is after sales service, it's one of the most overlooked consideration that can make your unit's ownership like hell :-[
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another thing to consider is after sales service, it's one of the most overlooked consideration that can make your unit's ownership like hell :-[
i agree, kaya malakas ang samsung eh coz of their after sales. sony too. toshiba and sharp, based from the salespeople, is not so good with after sales service.
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Philips 37PF7321 = PhP131,980
Toshiba 37WL66 = PhP129,990
Any feedback from the owners of these two LCD's? Or from those who have extensively auditioned them?
Thanks!
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^ mahal naman ng quote mo sa toshiba. 89k lang yan sa listening in style. dont buy from big appliance stores. malaki mark-up nila. go for toshiba. im getting one next week.
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^ mahal naman ng quote mo sa toshiba. 89k lang yan sa listening in style. dont buy from big appliance stores. malaki mark-up nila. go for toshiba. im getting one next week.
Those are based from Western, Festival Mall.
What are the available payment terms at LIS? 0% interest for 6mos., 12mos., 24mos.?
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i just bought a 32 philips 32pf7321, and i love it. even cable broadcast, its better than more expensive ones.
actually the cable broadcast comparisons made me decide on the philips. sa dvd hdmi, all lcdtv's looked spectacular in hi def. but when you start watching sd dvd and cable broadcast, that is what separates them.
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i just bought a 32 philips 32pf7321, and i love it. even cable broadcast, its better than more expensive ones.
actually the cable broadcast comparisons made me decide on the philips. sa dvd hdmi, all lcdtv's looked spectacular in hi def. but when you start watching sd dvd and cable broadcast, that is what separates them.
sir, curious lang, where were you able to do cable broadcast comparisons of different tvs?
what other tvs did you pit the philips against?
laki ba talaga cable-broadcast viewing difference like ng P62K S200 and your P70K philips?
did you get a chance to view the samsungs?
thanks!!! trying to decide which one to get na e. :)
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i think malakas ang samsung kasi malaki incentives mga salesman, kaya yun push nila.
i have friends who bought samsung lcdtv's but returned it after waching cable broadcasts... the worst is samsung.
sharp. philips, toshiba are better in viewing cable broadcasts.IMHO
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i have the samsung s71 and the cable broadcast sucks, so i gave it to my son, a friend have the samsung 42, again the cable broadcast sucks. another friend has the 37" philips and it was okay. another has this sony bravia 32s200, and she is selling it now to get a sony xseries.
do you know that the philips 37" power consumption is only 75w compared to a samsung, sony etc which consumes 200-250 watts/hr!
that alone is a compelling reason, considering all are equal :)
and to top it all, pq in a phillips lcdtv is at par or better than other brands. 2 hdmi inputs, 65w(32") power consumption, pixel plus, 1080i viewing using pioneer 490v., pip (two sources, single tuner) and 70k lang.
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our philips 32PF7321 was delivered yesterday ... switi's right, the TV tuner is probably the best i've seen from all the LCD brands i checked out. although, it's a bit of a pain to setup since it doesn't use channel numbers like regular tuners. took me several hours to configure it.
but other than that, very happy philips user here so far. ;D
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hindi maganda yung toshiba .
I had the pleasure of calibrating 32 inch Toshiba lcd 66 series for my sister. It had a color temperature of 9000 kelvin(most tv sets are in this color temperature range), I got it set at D65 with colorfacts. The resulting picture quality was very good.
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our philips 32PF7321 was delivered yesterday ... switi's right, the TV tuner is probably the best i've seen from all the LCD brands i checked out. although, it's a bit of a pain to setup since it doesn't use channel numbers like regular tuners. took me several hours to configure it.
but other than that, very happy philips user here so far. ;D
Hi Spiff ... I am in the market for an lcd ... deciding between the Philips 32PF7321 and the Sony S200A. How much and where did you purchase it from? Since they don't usually have demos showing cable TV reception, I am still confused as to which one I should get. If you don't midn, what was your basis for choosing the Philips?
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although, it's a bit of a pain to setup since it doesn't use channel numbers like regular tuners. took me several hours to configure it.
hahaha you are so right spaceman! besides you also have to configure the sound, coz if you don't all you have will be muted sound. but once you are over these minor setup, cable broadcast viewing is sooooooo way ahead better than samsung or sony! i watch dvd's once a day, while cable viewing is almost 6 hours a day, so it is very important to me the pq in cable viewing.
sabi ng iba the lcdtv is the worst medium to watch cable broadcast. they haven't tried the philips!
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Hi Spiff ... I am in the market for an lcd ... deciding between the Philips 32PF7321 and the Sony S200A. How much and where did you purchase it from? Since they don't usually have demos showing cable TV reception, I am still confused as to which one I should get. If you don't midn, what was your basis for choosing the Philips?
i got ours at automatic center ... for 79,999, i think. (the receipt is already in my files, i'll need to verify this.) expensive, yes. but at 0% interest for 24 months, that's only 3.3k a month.... and not too heavy on the budget. PLUS, it came with a divx ultra ready HTIB. HUUUGE discounts if you pay cash.
i went around to several stores, ambassador, abenson's, sm appliance and had them show me "functional" demo units... i know, it's a pain since some stores would only have a few demo units for testing. plus, you really have to be extra nice to the sales people because it isn't easy lugging around bulky 32" LCD TVs. my advice is to go to the biggest store... like avant or SM appliance. they have the most stocks on display and you can see the difference side by side.
the philips tuner was strong enough to deliver a decent picture even via a makeshift "aerial" antenna. other brands couldn't even manage to get a channel with this setup. the colors were richer and deeper compared to the others when watching TV. samsung's tuner in particular tended to deliver a "pale" picture when viewing with a TV signal. while sony's tended to look "blurred" (i was never really impressed with sony's "hyperband" tuner.) ... but both were impressive when connected to a video playback device. unfortunately, the TV feature was more important to us. that's why we went with the philips.
another thing i noticed.. try running your finger on the LCD screens and check the trail... on other brands, the trail was noticable and stayed for quite a while... the philips did not display such a behavior. it makes we wonder if the LCD screen has a thicker plexi overcoat. not unlike the ones sold for PC use.
i think the big dfference is philips' "contrast+" and noise reduction feature... which it uses for analog composite and TV signals.
hahaha you are so right spaceman! besides you also have to configure the sound, coz if you don't all you have will be muted sound. but once you are over these minor setup, cable broadcast viewing is sooooooo way ahead better than samsung or sony! i watch dvd's once a day, while cable viewing is almost 6 hours a day, so it is very important to me the pq in cable viewing.
sabi ng iba the lcdtv is the worst medium to watch cable broadcast. they haven't tried the philips!
yeah. i actually find that weird... that you have to set the tuner to "mono" because "stereo" was an empty audio signal... very strange. another reason it took me a while is because i also programmed the channel names in. LOL.
similar viewing habit here... my time on TV is waaaaaay longer than my time watching DVDs.
i find that watching at least 5-6 feet away from the screen is ideal for watching TV on our new LCD... any closer and you'll be disappointed. i suppose that's true for ANY brand.
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another thing i noticed.. try running your finger on the LCD screens and check the trail... on other brands, the trail was noticable and stayed for quite a while... the philips did not display such a behavior. it makes we wonder if the LCD screen has a thicker plexi overcoat. not unlike the ones sold for PC use.
forgive my ignorance but this is the part that i don't get. the salesperson pointed this out to allen and me as well yesterday when trying to sell the philips. why is this important if i may ask? the way i see it, we won't be scratching/touching the screen while watching and as mentioned above, would stay 5~6 feet away from the tv.
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forgive my ignorance but this is the part that i don't get. the salesperson pointed this out to allen and me as well yesterday when trying to sell the philips. why is this important if i may ask? the way i see it, we won't be scratching/touching the screen while watching and as mentioned above, would stay 5~6 feet away from the tv.
same sentiments, unless you have plans of throwing your wii at your lcd tv or use your hand poking at it the whole day... in the end it wouldnt affect my buying decisions..
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same sentiments, unless you have plans of throwing your wii at your lcd tv or use your hand poking at it the whole day... in the end it would affect my buying decisions..
but if you accidentally throw your wii controller at the screen, wouldn't the glass surface of the philips and other tvs break? i would think that the other non-glass protected LCD TVs might leave a mark on the LCD (ouch!! if that happens) but at least you won't be staring at broken glass (ouch, ouch!!!).
i might be making a fool of myself here but that's how i see it.
anyway, my 2 sentimos, it shldn't make any difference what screen surface they use...
well, unless glaring would be an issue.
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but if you accidentally throw your wii controller at the screen, wouldn't the glass surface of the philips and other tvs break? i would think that the other non-glass protected LCD TVs might leave a mark on the LCD (ouch!! if that happens) but at least you won't be staring at broken glass (ouch, ouch!!!).
i might be making a fool of myself here but that's how i see it.
anyway, my 2 sentimos, it shldn't make any difference what screen surface they use...
well, unless glaring would be an issue.
sori, typo... was suppose to say "wouldn't" :p
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forgive my ignorance but this is the part that i don't get. the salesperson pointed this out to allen and me as well yesterday when trying to sell the philips. why is this important if i may ask? the way i see it, we won't be scratching/touching the screen while watching and as mentioned above, would stay 5~6 feet away from the tv.
i don't think it matters when it comes to picture quality... but it does say much about the construction of the unit.
let's face it... accidents happen... especially during transport of the unit. (hey! we all move our TVs around... especially during spring cleaning and room redecoration/renovation.) just because you sit 5 feet away most of the time doesn't mean you'll never get close to a TV. maybe not you would break it, but an overzealous houseguest during a rowdy party or a household help that isn't as careful when cleaning stuff around the house could. you can never tell.
same sentiments, unless you have plans of throwing your wii at your lcd tv or use your hand poking at it the whole day... in the end it wouldnt affect my buying decisions..
it would mine. for that amount of money, i would want to buy a sturdier TV than one that's fragile. small touches like this, for me, speaks volumes about how the manufacturer wants the unit to last. why spend thousands of pesos on a TV that delivers great pictures but has inadequate construction? and anyway, who said only you can do the poking?? anyone who has had kids around the house know that little children love to bang on things that fascinate them...
but if you accidentally throw your wii controller at the screen, wouldn't the glass surface of the philips and other tvs break? i would think that the other non-glass protected LCD TVs might leave a mark on the LCD (ouch!! if that happens) but at least you won't be staring at broken glass (ouch, ouch!!!).
i might be making a fool of myself here but that's how i see it.
anyway, my 2 sentimos, it shldn't make any difference what screen surface they use...
well, unless glaring would be an issue.
if the impact of a console controller would be strong enough to break the plexi ... then i doubt the LCD of the other "thinner plexied" models would even survive from a similar situation. with the thicker plexi, you at least have a chance it would.
it makes a difference to me ... and that's my 2 cents.
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i don't think it matters when it comes to picture quality... but it does say much about the construction of the unit.
let's face it... accidents happen... especially during transport of the unit. (hey! we all move our TVs around... especially during spring cleaning and room redecoration/renovation.) just because you sit 5 feet away most of the time doesn't mean you'll never get close to a TV. maybe not you would break it, but an overzealous houseguest during a rowdy party or a household help that isn't as careful when cleaning stuff around the house could. you can never tell.
it would mine. for that amount of money, i would want to buy a sturdier TV than one that's fragile. small touches like this, for me, speaks volumes about how the manufacturer wants the unit to last. why spend thousands of pesos on a TV that delivers great pictures but has inadequate construction? and anyway, who said only you can do the poking?? anyone who has had kids around the house know that little children love to bang on things that fascinate them...
if the impact of a console controller would be strong enough to break the plexi ... then i doubt the LCD of the other "thinner plexied" models would even survive from a similar situation. with the thicker plexi, you at least have a chance it would.
it makes a difference to me ... and that's my 2 cents.
i'd just like to point also, the main reason why it isnt a big issue for me, is because most "better image" lcd's are also constructed more sturdier, thus are more resistant to the typical light hearted "poking" .... plus, on a side note.. a live a bachelor life.. so i dont have any else except guests to poke the tv around.
any lcd hurled by a wii controller would most probably suffer damage... i was just humoring the wii strap issue when i said that line :)
anyways, when your choosing between any of the newer model lcd's fromt he big brands.. some brands/models are naturally more "sturdier" than others, but the less sturdier ones.. dont mean they are fragile and will break when a kid accidentally pokes it.
bottomline, if a force is strong enough to damage a modern day lcd, any of those glossy finish, double layer lcd's would also suffer damage.. probably a bit less... but still be damage
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i'd just like to point also, the main reason why it isnt a big issue for me, is because most "better image" lcd's are also constructed more sturdier, thus are more resistant to the typical light hearted "poking" .... plus, on a side note.. a live a bachelor life.. so i dont have any else except guests to poke the tv around.
any lcd hurled by a wii controller would most probably suffer damage... i was just humoring the wii strap issue when i said that line :)
anyways, when your choosing between any of the newer model lcd's fromt he big brands.. some brands/models are naturally more "sturdier" than others, but the less sturdier ones.. dont mean they are fragile and will break when a kid accidentally pokes it.
bottomline, if a force is strong enough to damage a modern day lcd, any of those glossy finish, double layer lcd's would also suffer damage.. probably a bit less... but still be damage
like i already said, if i'm spending a fair amount of money on something ... every bit of advantage i can get, i'll take.
to generalize that most "better image" LCDs are sturdier, is a bit premature don't you think? even i am still apprehensive and doubtful if an LCD would last as long as a CRT one. (which would explain why i took a 2-year extended warranty. lol.) i dunno about you, but the fact that a simple light run of the finger leaves a mark, it set my alarm bells ringing.
you live a bachelor life and never had guests that felt a little too "at home"? awww... come on. i think we've all had moments like those whether we're a bachelor or not. ;)
ohhhh... it was "humorous poke" at the wii strap issue... so that's what it was. ha ha... got it. :)
BTW, the philips doesn' have a glossy finish... there's no glare it's just really thicker, that's all.
yes. i agree...no matter what TV you choose, some care must be made so that it lasts longer.
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like i already said, if i'm spending a fair amount of money on something ... every bit of advantage i can get, i'll take.
to generalize that all "better image" LCDs are sturdier, is a bit premature don't you think? i dunno about you, but the fact that simple light run of the finger leaves a mark, it set my alarm bells ringing.
you live a bachelor life and never had guests that felt a little too "at home"? awww... come on. i think we've all had moments like those whether we're a bachelor or not. ;)
ohhhh... it was "humorous poke" at the wii strap issue... so that's what it was. ha ha... got it. :)
BTW, the philips doesn' have a glossy finish... there's no glare it's just really thicker, that's all.
yes. i agree...no matter what TV you choose, some care must be made so that it lasts longer.
on the better image lcd are sturdier... its a generalization, but yes i find it to be true... i think what differs between us is our threshold for what counts as sturdy ;)
on the trail mark.. im used to the effect already ever since i got my first laptop year ago.. i have a natural habit of touching and poking it all day.. and i dont seem to notice my lcd getting damaged or more prone to damage.. hel, that particular laptop motherboard died out twice and the lcd still works fine...
hmm.. im just so used to the trail marks so much, that i dont really use it as a definitive basis for "sturdiness" of a lcd. this probably where we differ most in opinion :)
well.. i make it appoint... to have guests stay in a diff. room is possible :P but of course all that "socializing" can take you diff. rooms.. one just has to be careful. ^^
you should watch the videos and pic of those flying wii's good laugh haha
phillips, does have thicker panels and the qualities good.. no complaint from me on that front :)
amen on last line!! ;D
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to put it simply, the glass coating in the philips is not really the selling point here.
the selling points of the philips are:
1. good quality panels like samsung (samsung is the world's biggest manufacturer, lg philips 2nd)
2. analog tuner is superb than more expensive ones
3. 70k with out freebies
4. 12-24 months 0% interest
5. pq is the same or better than more expensive ones (with a little tweaking almost all lcdtv's can be very good to view with hd sources)
6. single tuner pip
7. 65 watts power consumption!
8. with 2 hdmi ports
cons:
silver color
setting up tv channels is laborious ( but i enjoyed naming channnels)
onboard sound is just ok (but hey it is connected to my 7.1 ht)
i am not here to convince you to buy a philips, its your money so you decide. wink wink
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good points and good healthy discussion!
anyway, i guess that the extra protection that the plexi glass gives on the philips is a plus but that wouldn't sway me on choosing it over the competition.
i think that what we perceive as better construction is a matter of taste. to each his own. personally, i find the build quality/construction of the N71 better than the philips lcd that i saw. but that's just me. ;)
also, lucky for me that there have been no accidents involving my good ol' CRT tv during parties at my place. knock on wood! ;D ;D ;D
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i am not here to convince you to buy a philips, its your money so you decide. wink wink
exactly!... all points raised are based on personal preferences and experiences. to question them is just plain ridiculous.
and anyway, i never implied it was of major importance ... but rather an observation that i chose to factor into my decision making process. i stated it as "matter-of-fact"... you are free to take it as it is.
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exactly!... all points raised are based on personal preferences and experiences. to question them is just plain ridiculous.
and anyway, i never implied it was of major importance ... but rather an observation that i chose to factor into my decision making process. i stated it as "matter-of-fact"... you are free to take it as it is.
yep, apologies for putting you on the spot. i was only wondering why the salesperson made the plexiglass of the philips as a big selling point to the extent of putting down other lcds due to it. wasn't able to ask him since we were on our way to the N71 at that time. was busy ogling the other samsung gadgets. ;D ;D
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no problem... but i know what you mean. sometimes kasi we need to take the opinions of salespeople at "face value"... ultimately naman, it's you, the consumer, who decides which features are important to you and which ones you can live without. ;)
by the way, i am a fan of samsung products as well... but having owned and used several samsung PC LCDs in the past, i was a little disappointed at how their LCD TVs were not at par (construction-wise) with their PC counterparts. especially considering that they charge a premium price for it.
color-wise, i have no beef with samsung. maganda talaga ... it's just their lack of attention to small details like these particular ones i pointed out that disappoint me.
in fact ... our original choice to get was the 32" widescreen HD-ready samsung CRT TV... but the philips offer was just too good to pass up.
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no problem... but i know what you mean. sometimes kasi we need to take the opinions of salespeople at "face value"... ultimalty naman, it's you, the consumer, who decides which features are important to you and which ones you can live without. ;)
One thing we have to remember is with all these big appliance stores, most of the sales staff are promodizers of the individual brands. Hence, the Samsung, Sharp, LG, Philips etc. promodizers will obviously promote their products and put down the others.
Like Spaceman said, we have to take their comments at face value and see for ourselves what we like.
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he he he happy place.
i might buy a samsung sa march, pag nakakupit kay mrs. bigay ko sa bunso yung philips. the reason i didn't get the samsung was the price, 70(philips) vs 109(n71). between the philips and s71, r71 samsung, sa philips ako, but the n71 is a different case. for the same price, the n71 is better.
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he he he happy place.
i might buy a samsung sa march, pag nakakupit kay mrs. bigay ko sa bunso yung philips. the reason i didn't get the samsung was the price, 70(philips) vs 109(n71). between the philips and s71, r71 samsung, sa philips ako, but the n71 is a different case. for the same price, the n71 is better.
why not accelerate your purchase by 1 week and buy with us? :)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=63423.0
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he he he happy place.
i might buy a samsung sa march, pag nakakupit kay mrs. bigay ko sa bunso yung philips. the reason i didn't get the samsung was the price, 70(philips) vs 109(n71). between the philips and s71, r71 samsung, sa philips ako, but the n71 is a different case. for the same price, the n71 is better.
Hmm... since Im considering the r71, does that mean I should consider buying the Philips?
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my advice... read the comments and go to the shops... let your eyes and budget make the decision. ;D
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According to my friend at Abenson, Festival Mall, Philips LCD TV's are their best seller.
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Abenson's Galleria has the Philips 32PF7321, Sony 32V200A, the Samsung S model and a Sharp 32" (didn't note the model) one side by side just in case you want to see them.
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@spaceman/switi
were you able to use the philips tv as computer monitors? hows the picture quality, especially with pc games? the philips seems like a good buy :)
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yes... i have. quality was okay considering it uses the regular 15-pin d-sub. but the maximum resolution is 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz (a 4:3 screen ratio) ... so for someone like me that uses bigger resolutions on my PC ... i don't really use it as a monitor.
i haven't tried it on an dvi to HDMI connection though (but i was able to find a converter na... at park square. didn't buy it though.) .... so the picture might be better than on the d-sub. ;D
might try it using the component cable my video card came with soon... hopefully the picture will be better as well.
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Abenson's Galleria has the Philips 32PF7321, Sony 32V200A, the Samsung S model and a Sharp 32" (didn't note the model) one side by side just in case you want to see them.
hello jett. did you pick up one na? which one did you decide on?
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yes... i have. quality was okay considering it uses the regular 15-pin d-sub. but the maximum resolution is 1024 x 768 @ 60Hz (a 4:3 screen ratio) ... so for someone like me that uses bigger resolutions on my PC ... i don't really use it as a monitor.
i haven't tried it on an dvi to HDMI connection though (but i was able to find a converter na... at park square. didn't buy it though.) .... so the picture might be better than on the d-sub. ;D
might try it using the component cable my video card came with soon... hopefully the picture will be better as well.
thanks bro. so its only a 4.3 screen ratio. i thought it could display wide screen :) let me know if it can display wide screen with the component cable connection for your video card. thanks!
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hello jett. did you pick up one na? which one did you decide on?
Howdy Spiff, I have not bought one yet. I'm leaning towards the Philips already :) but I'm checking out the dimensions if it can fit in the cabinet that holds my current CRT TV. Mukhang di kasya so it looks like I have to consider reorganizing my room (or maybe setting it up in a separate room). I'm planning to visit Abenson's again this weekend though bringing along my burned DivX files and DVDs to test them :)
Slightly off-topic. I saw the newer Philips LCDs at Avant earlier today, the ones with Ambilight. I always wondered who would need such thing - medyo maganda talaga ang effect and somewhat adds to the "experience".
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Slightly off-topic. I saw the newer Philips LCDs at Avant earlier today, the ones with Ambilight. I always wondered who would need such thing - medyo maganda talaga ang effect and somewhat adds to the "experience".
Useful naman ang Ambilight. It's called a bias light, the most important function of which is to improve the viewer's perception of black and color temperature. I use a cheap night light behind my TV, but my purpose is simply to reduce eye strain or "viewing fatigue".
After a while, I noticed another pleasant effect: even when the TV is off, the bias light gives the room a pleasant atmosphere. Try it while listening to music. Helps you get in a cozy mood.
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I should have read this thread earlier on, but during my last auditions last night, I noticed that the philips 32pf7321 did fare well against the Samsungs especially with DVDs. The only thing I dont like about it is its styling (which could be a deal breaker for my wife).
Switi, just one thing regarding the Philips and Samsung for Cable viewing, considering Philips' good cable tuner, do you think the N71's tuner is comparable or is it really worlds apart?
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heh heh... the philips does look a little "old skool" next to the samsung models.
BTW, did samsung have a price drop? the n71b is PhP 79.990.00 na?
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heh heh... the philips does look a little "old skool" next to the samsung models.
BTW, did samsung have a price drop? the n71b is PhP 79.990.00 na?
the Samsung did have a price drop. This makes my decision a bit tougher. I was planning to buy the Philips today but the price drop made me want to research more. Am about to go to Makati again. Hayyyy ... decisions decisions
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heh heh... the philips does look a little "old skool" next to the samsung models.
BTW, did samsung have a price drop? the n71b is PhP 79.990.00 na?
yes
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that's a huge price drop... did i compute that right, 30k nabawas from the old retail price?
bilis naman ata ng depreciation of their selling price ... i guess they just wanna move their stocks ASAP. (new models in the horizon?)
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that's a huge price drop... did i compute that right, 30k nabawas from the old retail price?
bilis naman ata ng depreciation of their selling price ... i guess they just wanna move their stocks ASAP. (new models in the horizon?)
Yeah, they're clearing their stocks. A friend of mine who knows an insider said this was the reason why Samsung dropped the prices (well, technically siguro di naman talaga drinop since they removed the freebies).
BTW Spiff, I bought the Philips :) . It should be delivered tomorrow. I was there kanina sa Abenson's with a couple of DivX DVDs and 3 DVDs. Unfortunately I wasn't able to test a couple of them because their player was set to Region 3. I bought it purely on your and Switi's recommendation. Pag pangit to, hahanapin ko kayo .... just kidding .. hehehe
Now if only I could sell that free HTIB ... :)
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jett post mo dito your experience sa philips.
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congratulations on the new LCD jett... if u need help with the tuner... i'm sure SWITI will be glad to help... LOL... joke joke... I'LL be glad to help you on that too. :) (tama ba i-volunteer ang ibang tao? heh heh.)
the HTIB retails for just under 12k... sell mo sa ebay for 8k... baka sakali may kumagat. it's a decent player though. so we decided to keep it... pwede sa mga kids. (which i don't have ... but there's my technophobe dad... does that count?) heh heh.
BTW, do you guys set your dvd players to PAL? it seems clearer in that setting when connected via component.
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grabe naman yan Spiff. What do you do at 5:30 in the morning? Gumigising just to post sa forums? hehehehe
I figured out the tuner thing this morning. Grabe, I stepped out of my office to rush home and greet the Abenson delivery truck. Single-handedly set it up right away and configured a few channels. Also hooked up my Xbox 360. (Ganun ka-excited).
I did realize that I had a problem. I need to hook up my DVD player, Xbox 360 and PS2 but there's only one Component Video In. I probably have to settle with the S-video for my PS2 but prefer using component cables. Does anyone know if there's a shop that sells a component switch? (like those audio/video switches to connect multiple RCA devices to one input).
If no such thing exist, I might need to buy a DVD player with HDMI (unfortunately that's not in the budget right now).
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nope... early riser lang talaga. (have TONS of stuff to do kasi...) :P
ha ha ha! i posted a thread asking the same question. (which no one answered to, BTW) it exists... pero pricey... do a google search for "component switches"... audio authority's 1154 model is something i would LOVE to have... pero mahal eh. i already did the rounds in park square... no one has it readily available. siguro by order, pwede.
what i ended up doing was buying 2 regular "rca" switches (3 rca ports per switch ... 1 for composite video and 2 for stereo audio.. can be bought at 150 pesos a piece. but you can opt for the more expensive ones.) at the hardware store... one of the switches handles video... and another handles audio... it's easy and CHEAP... and works just as well since technically "analog" din naman ang component.
you just have to remember to switch both to the same number so that both switch boxes point to the right device.
p.s. don't settle for s-video for the PS2, i didn't. LOL... but remember that your ps2 can't fill the whole 32" screen in component ... underscaned kasi ps2 eh ... yun ps3 kaya i-fill yun screen. :P
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OT:
what component cables are you guys using? where dya buy it and for how much?
thx!
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as with any analog wiring ... the thicker, the better shielded and the higher quality make it is (i.e. gold plated plugs, etc. etc.)... the better your signal will be. i read this is not the case for digital wires like HDMI... :D
i think the ones they sell at the hardware section of most department store for 600pesos is okay naman. they seem to be quite sturdy and seem to be decently made. naturally, if you can afford more expensive brands like monster cable... that would be better. heh heh.
pero if budget is an issue ... the el cheapo 150-peso ones work naman for the meantime. at least until you can afford better cables... which is what i'm doing for now. ;D
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as with any analog wiring ... the thicker, the better shielded and the higher quality make it is (i.e. gold plated plugs, etc. etc.)... the better your signal will be.
yep, i believe in this so i'm actually lookin for high quality ones that are cheap!! :) baka me recommendations kayo.
check ko rin sa dept. stores, Electronics Boutique, etc.
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Try Audio Pro Component Cable, for around 600 pesos, at any Ace Hardware. They also have Philips component cables for around 1.4K pesos. Decent enough for the videophiles on a tight budget ;D. Until such time you can afford a better one that is.
They also have Ace branded HDMI cable.
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Try Audio Pro Component Cable, for around 600 pesos, at any Ace Hardware. They also have Philips component cables for around 1.4K pesos. Decent enough for the videophiles in a budget ;D. Until such time you can afford a better one that is.
They also have Ace branded HDMI cable.
thx! will check em out. :)
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audio pro! so that's their brand pala... LOL.
we are using their PS2 component cable which we got at Toy Kingdom MOA ... seems to work okay. :)
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As some of you know, I was part of the group that failed to land the Samsung N71. For the same budget, my options are now the Sony 32v200a, Samsung 32r71 and the Philips 32pf7321. Honestly, I liked the PQ of the Philips. I even prefered this model over the much more expensive pixel plus 2 model because it looks finer and more natural. The fact that it has dual hdmi and a load more of inputs do not hurt. Plus it supposedly only uses 65 watts.
Using component, I noticed some mapping on the colors of the sony. I am not sure if its because of the setting or because the model I tested is the 40v200a while the Samsungs seem to be grainer and a little more pixelated. I don't know if you can fix this by tweaking the settings.
The only deal breaker with the Philips is its looks, especially with the wife.
Cost wise, I can probably get the r71 at a cheaper price than the Philips. Add a few more k and I can get a n71 at some big stores. A little more cash would get me the Sony. I can't think straight anymore.
I just don't want to enter the 70k range because adding a few more cash would get me a 42 inch plasma.
Any advice?
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I just don't want to enter the 70k range because adding a few more cash would get me a 42 inch plasma.
Any advice?
hey, we basically have the same dilemna, brother dips. don't know whether to stay cheap and get an lcd, coz if i do go the 70k+ territory, i'm already treading the plasma domain - better PQ at 42" goodness. so help us fellow pdvd gurus.
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I preferably would get the sony. It cost more but I think its worth it. Reviews are also very good with the bravias..I have the samsung 32r71 and pretty much happy and satisfied with it tho. Philips are also very nice..Actually when I was checking the pixel plus 2, the picture looks very 3D. I dont know but I was amazed, Pixel plus 2 also have good reviews.
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The pixel plus 2 does look 3D but it also looks weird. It doesn't look cinematic anymore but instead looks animated or computer generated. It is amazing but its not for me. The pixel plus 1 looks more natural.
Ill see if the r71 will work for me.
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Just got my philips 32pf7321. I would say the money spent is well worth it. PQ is really great. I know that most of you is interested on its cable reception. For me its great but not as great SD TV. but when you compared the brightness, vividness of color and contrast philips has the edge. If im going to rate the clarity of philips cable compared to SDTV, SDTV having 10, the philips would be between 8 to 9 depends on the cable channel. I compared it with my previous JVC CRT 21" TV.
I know its very subjective to describe cable reception, so here are some actual pictures i took while watching cable on my new philips. I used a sony cybershot 3.1 Megapixel set at image size 1280 x 960 , low flash, rec mode = normal, pic quality = standard.
sample cable pics
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/935/qtvms8.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7495/70100301wm5.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3250/xxxtv0.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7089/hboba2.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/73/mm1wg9.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3245/dsc00097jc3.jpg
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3598/dsc00111nv6.jpg
I noticed that the philips cable signal has no grainy characteristic (well probably depends on the cable company) which i observed in other brand. It instead smoothen out edges this may due to its pixel plus (not sure)
Philips exterior may not be as attractive as the other LCD, but i think its remote control is one of the best looking when compared to other brand
Just sharing my experience with my new lcd HDTV :)
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picture looked stretched to fit the widescreen, might look better if it's window-boxed.
OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?
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picture looked stretched to fit the widescreen, might look better if it's window-boxed.
OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?
Im not sure if it really has a thin glass on it nor pic wont smudge. I don`t really want to touch it hard, coz i might damage it :)
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Guys,
I need help
I just bought a new Philips 37PF7321 and I noticed that when i turned it on the sound is absent. I always need to press different video sources (e.g. cv1, pc, etc..) until it goes around the selection then that when finally sound will come out. sound is alraedy set to mono. We use channel 3 for our cable signal. Do you think i have to do something with the tv set-up or something wrong with my tv.
thanks
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Im not sure if it really has a thin glass on it nor pic wont smudge. I don`t really want to touch it hard, coz i might damage it :)
I wouldn't too on such an expensive (and new) TV. Kasi on my PC LCD (AOC), barely running your finger over it will smudge it a little. I would probably try it on other display unit, when the salesmen isn't looking....
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saw toshi 37wl66e @ 99k before 129k sa western...ok na ba ito?...any reviews sa mga owner nito...very tempting sya eh...pa review po...thanks
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OT: Is it true that Philips LCD have an extra glass in front of the LCD, ie the picture won't smudge, if you put your finger on screen? That's what the salesmen tells me when I was checking out LCD earlier... Do Samsung and Sony do?
it's true... if you wanna factor that into your decision, feel free to do so. but it shouldn't be the deal breaker, so to speak.
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Guys,
I need help
I just bought a new Philips 37PF7321 and I noticed that when i turned it on the sound is absent. I always need to press different video sources (e.g. cv1, pc, etc..) until it goes around the selection then that when finally sound will come out. sound is alraedy set to mono. We use channel 3 for our cable signal. Do you think i have to do something with the tv set-up or something wrong with my tv.
thanks
skycable? yeah... they broadcast in 2 audio channels: stereo & mono... but the stereo signal is empty. this is what i did go to a channel that has 2 audio channels (ex. MTV) then click on the "audio" button 'til you see a red "mono" on the upper right corner of your screen. then proceed to the "manual setup" menu. make sure you're video is on "auto" and audio is in "m" mode... then select store. it should remember to force mono now everytime it sees a stereo signal.
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to Spaceman spiff,
How do you use the PIP in this unit (32pf7321)? It says not available even though i am using component video at that time?
thanks
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while it does have PIP, the philips people neglected to mention that the unit only has 1 tuner. and PIP only works between an HDMI port and a 2nd input (i.e. internal tuner, CV1, CV2, side or another HDMI connection.)
not sure if this is the same case for the other brands though... :-\
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global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.
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global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.
as far as i know you can set it per channel. i had to set it individually for mine.
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while it does have PIP, the philips people neglected to mention that the unit only has 1 tuner. and PIP only works between an HDMI port and a 2nd input (i.e. internal tuner, CV1, CV2, side or another HDMI connection.)
not sure if this is the same case for the other brands though... :-\
Its the same thing for almost all 32 inchers. They only have 1 tuner and can only share amoung pc/hdmi and composite/component and tv.
Bottomline, at least one input has to be pc or hdmi.
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global setting kaya ito, or per channel? kasi me mga true stereo channels naman sa sky like yung HBO so sayang naman kung naka-mono lang.
i wouldn't know if it's different for your area but all channels here at our area is mono... i tried using our sony VCRs tuner just to see if mono nga lang talaga ang signal ... and although it detects some channels as "stereo" (the red stereo light is on sa display ng VCR)... mono pa rin ang output. :(
and yup... the setting is individualized per channel. :)
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skycable? yeah... they broadcast in 2 audio channels: stereo & mono... but the stereo signal is empty. this is what i did go to a channel that has 2 audio channels (ex. MTV) then click on the "audio" button 'til you see a red "mono" on the upper right corner of your screen. then proceed to the "manual setup" menu. make sure you're video is on "auto" and audio is in "m" mode... then select store. it should remember to force mono now everytime it sees a stereo signal.
thanks got it fix already.
too bad our cable uses top box and cannot individually set the channel.
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Hello gurus! I've been religiously visiting this forum for the past couple of weeks and I can say that it has been really helpful to so many people that are on the lookout for the best LCDs/Plasmas.
But among these 32 inchers, which do you think is the best for PC? Any inputs will be greatly appreciated, the pros and cons, and reviews from the people who actually own these models and use it as PC monitors,Links to websites with discussions. Images of actual desktop, or links to videos of actual performance would be helpful.
Thanks guys! Pinoydvd is the best! ;D
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toshiba bad pc viewing:
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,40337082p,00.htm
samsung, good pc viewing:
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,40515642p,00.htm
sharp, should be near samsung's quality(though, never mentioned directly in review):
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,40005300p,00.htm
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For my personal tase, id go for Sharp, Samsung and lastly Toshiba..
P.S- Why not go for R81B instead of S81? :)
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here we go again with these 3 brands :D
eto na ang problema nating lahat. hahahaha. also interested in looking at this one. i can probably try hooking up my laptop when i get time.
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lets also base our judgement on price.
how much are the following on cash and card?
1) 32" s81 ??cash 60k card 0% (any better prices other than srp?)
2) 32" px5m ??cash 64k card 0%
3) 32" a3000e 48k cash 55k card (with dvd player)
layo kasi prices eh. its a big purchase. sana nga i can just opt for the best without looking at the prices.
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lets also base our judgement on price.
how much are the following on cash and card?
1) 32" s81 ??cash 60k card 0% (any better prices other than srp?)
2) 32" px5m ??cash 64k card 0%
3) 32" a3000e 48k cash 55k card (with dvd player)
layo kasi prices eh. its a big purchase. sana nga i can just opt for the best without looking at the prices.
sori.. cant help out in the card price dept... never tried it haha..
but on the cash price dept. they all appear tied to me. (except the sharp px5m, which costs more)
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sharp px5m is 61k cash at Saver's
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Tried all three brands last night and only Samsung could be detected properly by my Mac/PC/Xbox360 and use native resolution. None of that scaling lameness.
My only complaint is that it uses VGA ports.
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For my personal tase, id go for Sharp, Samsung and lastly Toshiba..
P.S- Why not go for R81B instead of S81? :)
You have a point there sir. hehe pero as much as possible yung bang for the buck talaga. Feel free to post other LCD TVs which has good PC input capabilities and I'll just change the title of the thread. Pero Yung mga 60k and below lang sana. ;D Keep 'em coming!
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32A3000E for 47k cash at LIS. =P~
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yung 42A3000E? magkano?
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@prick27:
Just for the heads-up, if you're planning for a HTPC setup. DO NOT get the Toshiba A3000E models because it sucks bigtime if jacked on a PC. It is on 4:3 mode only - you can't adjust it to wide or 16:9 anymore unlike Sharp and Samsung.
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@prick27:
Just for the heads-up, if you're planning for a HTPC setup. DO NOT get the Toshiba A3000E models because it sucks bigtime if jacked on a PC. It is on 4:3 mode only - you can't adjust it to wide or 16:9 anymore unlike Sharp and Samsung.
thanks for the heads up sir. Very tempting pa naman tong Tosh na to. Thanks so much sir, im leaning towards the s81 because of the possible HTIB bundle which will serve as my speakers for the PC. :D
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thanks for the heads up sir. Very tempting pa naman tong Tosh na to. Thanks so much sir, im leaning towards the s81 because of the possible HTIB bundle which will serve as my speakers for the PC. :D
@prick27:
No problem sir ;) Goodluck on your TV hunt.
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@fait
yun pa problem mo? naka 4:3 with the toshiba? did you try choosing a widescreen res? that should work as it would force your tv to use its native res without scaling.
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@fait
yun pa problem mo? naka 4:3 with the toshiba? did you try choosing a widescreen res? that should work as it would force your tv to use its native res without scaling.
@antikryst:
No options for that on PC mode, you can only change 16:9 / wide on HDMI and TV mode but on pc, you'll be stuck at 4:3 - if you press the widescreen mode via the remote, you'll get a "not available" message.
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@Fait
kahit sa driver ng VC mo mismo dude? hindi ba detected ng VC mo ang native reso ng HDTV?
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@Fait
kahit sa driver ng VC mo mismo dude? hindi ba detected ng VC mo ang native reso ng HDTV?
@leomar:
Driver has nothing to do with coz i came from a Samsung S71 and Bravia V200A just couple of days back - and it's not about the resolution, it's about the aspect ratio (4:3 - normal) should be at least (16:9 - wide)
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4:3 has corresponding resolutions..same with 16:9. ayaw talaga? weird
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4:3 has corresponding resolutions..same with 16:9. ayaw talaga? weird
@antikryst:
Yep, the native resolution of 1360x768 on 4:3 will be distored.. so you have to lower it to 1024x768 (not sure if thats the exact reso) or atleast 2 resolution lower than the native one and the weird thing there is it's maxed resolution is upto 3500x10** i think, but of course selecting that resolution will give you a black and blinking screen.
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@leomar:
Driver has nothing to do with coz i came from a Samsung S71 and Bravia V200A just couple of days back - and it's not about the resolution, it's about the aspect ratio (4:3 - normal) should be at least (16:9 - wide)
so kahit naka 1360x768 ka na naka 4:3 pa rin? i assume may black bars sa both sides? so 16:9 na 4:3 hehe
weird nga, hindi kaya factory defect un?
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so kahit naka 1360x768 ka na naka 4:3 pa rin? i assume may black bars sa both sides? so 16:9 na 4:3 hehe
weird nga, hindi kaya factory defect un?
@leomar:
Yeah meron 2 black bars sa side (supot noh?, hehe)
I think hindi ata talaga maganda for PC yung A3000E, check asia.cnet's review... yung screen/camshot nila dun, mapapansin mo with 2 black bars din sa side..
link: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037588,40337082p-3,00.htm
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@antikryst:
No options for that on PC mode, you can only change 16:9 / wide on HDMI and TV mode but on pc, you'll be stuck at 4:3 - if you press the widescreen mode via the remote, you'll get a "not available" message.
That's strange, my older 32wl66e allows wide option on PC mode at 1024x768, and does it well too. Good thing I didn't wait for the 32a300e. BTW if you guys are looking for cheap M-M vga cable that works just fine, Electroworld has 2m for only p195. It has all 15 pins, unlike some others, but I have no idea what the missing pin was for anywhoo.
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That's strange, my older 32wl66e allows wide option on PC mode at 1024x768, and does it well too. Good thing I didn't wait for the 32a300e. BTW if you guys are looking for cheap M-M vga cable that works just fine, Electroworld has 2m for only p195. It has all 15 pins, unlike some others, but I have no idea what the missing pin was for anywhoo.
@obsi:
Yeah, I think the WL66E models can do 16:9 aspect ratio when used as a PC monitor coz when I went to LIS 3 months ago, the lady there was using the 42"WL66E as her primary monitor...
Too bad, Toshiba didn't do good on their A3000E. :c
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@obsi:
Yeah, I think the WL66E models can do 16:9 aspect ratio when used as a PC monitor coz when I went to LIS 3 months ago, the lady there was using the 42"WL66E as her primary monitor...
Too bad, Toshiba didn't do good on their A3000E. :c
I agree with you sir, using 32wl66 can really do a 16:9 wide better than any other brands in terms of using it as a pc monitor, regarding the A3000e it is a lower version of the 32wl66, less in terms of color and contrast. the 32r81 Samsung is good for viewing dvd, tv and games. ;)
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Last saturday, I went to Abenson to buy the 32" Samsung LCD (LA32R81B) but ended up buying the JVC LT-32EX17. According to the seller, the JVC has superior picture quality than Samsung because of the video engine.
In comparing the specs, I was told that the JVC has 10000:1 against 8000:1 for Samsung. Arriving home, I checked the internet for the JVC specs and found out that it's only 1200:1 -- far inferior than Samsung.
I read from the internet that the DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio) does not help much in your decision because the best judgement would be your eyes.
My questions are:
1. Is Samsung better than JVC?
2. Any comment in the DCR?
I compared side by side both TV system and found them to be a par with each other. I just read here that JVC has poor service. This makes me consider of returning the unit and swap it with Samsung.
Thanks!
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1200 contrast ratio is more or less 8000 up in dynamic contrast
how much did you get it for? the new LGs (not yet out here) is specked out at 1200 contrast, or 10,000 dynamic contrast
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Hi,
I got the unit the same price of Samsung for 69,999 with Free DVD Player.
So the 1200:1 Contrast Ratio is equivalent to 8000:1 Dynamic? How can this be? Thanks! :)
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There aren't that many JCV LCD owners here. In fact, this the first time I have read of anyone considering a JVC as an LCD.
You went to the shop to get a Samsung and somehow ended up with a JVC. You obviously felt (or convinced) that the JVC was a better LCD than the Samsung for you to buy it. Forget the contrast ratios. If you are happy with the picture quality, that's all that matters. After sales, of course, is a different story.
Me, I'm happy with my 37" Samsung.
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I ended up buying JVC because its a new model, comes with a free DVD player, 24 months at zero interest, and subjectively at par video quality with Samsung.
Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm happy with the contrast and details of the JVC, but I'm worried about the horror stories I read about after-sales.
I talked to the people of Abenson and they agreed for an exchange for the Samsung LA32R81B.
Read somewhere that contrast ratio and dynamic contrast ratio do not matter. It is your eyes that will ultimately determine your happiness and satisfaction.
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Just got back from Abenson. I returned the unit and got a full refund! Thank you to Abenson.
Reason for the return: I found a cheaper 32" LCD TV with the same brand (Samsung LA32R81B) and I told them to match it. The difference? A whooping 20k!!!! :o
Question: Should I buy atleast a 40 incher for future proof? I mean, 1080p for full HD? Are there 37 inches or lower capable of full HD?
Thanks!
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jamjam, so 50k lang kuha mo sa samsung mo?
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Mojako,
I'm planning to get my 32" LCD from Nemesis for 49k (brand new).
HTH
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jamjam,
yup the 69k was expensive, I've read somewhere here na if you want a 12 month payment term at 0% interest, you can get it around 54k I think, pag cash naman, kay nemesis ka na at 49k lang.
as for contrast ratios, dalawa kasi yan, dynamic and yung real contrast ratios. Dynamic usually mataas talaga yan, approx 5x of the real contrast ratio.
but you need not worry really on contrast ratios, because according to an article i've read, when the lights are on, even if it's just 1 candlelight lighting your room, basically there won't be any much difference between high and low contrast ratios. They have an explanation as to why, but I think they say the human eye can't tell the difference, if the lights are on. So the contrast ratios daw talaga, is only noticeable, kung pitch black ang room mo, which is how they actually do the testing of contrast ratios anyway.
so basically for me no need to really bother much comparing contrast ratios, of course the higher is always better, but it's really more of a way for manufacturers and their salespeople to use as a marketing tool in selling.
as for future proofing, my opinion is if your budget permits, and if you don't see yourself getting another tv in the next few years or so, then go get a bigger tv na, with 1080p, para isang bilihan nalang :)
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Sgc_wdi,
Thanks bro for the response. I bought the Samsung 32" LA-32R81 anyway. When the 1080p price goes down, I may have to buy again.
Agree with you on the contrast ratio. I've read in Practical Home Theater Guide about your explanation :)
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/contrast-ratio.html
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In the market for a 32 inch budget LCD TV. What is better? MAG or YES. Any other brand better that these two in the same price range? Thanks.
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Skyworth is priced at Php40k Cash..
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and MAG is priced at 35k.... cash also. ;D
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Thanks for the replies. How about quality wise. What is the better of the two (MAG and YES). Thanks.
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hello san gawa ang mag or yes...
and saan makakabili nyan?
napadaan ako sa listening wala ng stock ang YES
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baka si nemesis may stock pa ng YES
saw the YES in action sa listening room Rockwell (nung open pa sila) and saw the MAG naman sa virramall - for me, mas maganda build quality ng YES
made in Korea yung YES, dunno about the MAG. May YES ata sa shangrila ah..
YES boto ko, yung MAG may thread sa tipidpc, lahat daw ng stock sa acenet virramal eh may dead pixel.
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from nemesis... yung YES eh samsung OEM panels, while i think yung sa MAG eh from CMO (Chi Mei Optoelectronics) and some other China manufacturer naman yata.
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need ur help, i'm planning to get one but cannot decide between the two, i'll be using it more on my xbox360. dvd & cable paminsan-minsan lang. is contrast ratio a big deal although 1000 lang difference nila? TIA
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need ur help, i'm planning to get one but cannot decide between the two, i'll be using it more on my xbox360. dvd & cable paminsan-minsan lang. is contrast ratio a big deal although 1000 lang difference nila? TIA
1000 contrast ratio isnt that big a diff.
if you think a few thousand is more important for you budget, then the 32s81 is good. If you think a few thousand is worth paying for extra contrast ratio, some extra video processing features (ex. movie plus) and extra hdmi, plus a generally better looking casing, then 32r81 is the way to go.
i bought my 32r81 largely because of HDMI connectivity, Resale value and the "special" discounted availability i had at the time.
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got the s81 dahil mas mura.. if kya ng budget cympre r81! i feel kasi konti lng diff e
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Im planning to get one but i cant decide which of both is better... Thanks
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Sir, it really depends on your personal taste and applications. I can really vouch for sharp's being a pc monitor and for great analog tv reception. In terms of DVD/high def viewing I wouldn't say that Sharp Aquos is the best but it can stand on par with the other brands. Sony has it's name brand to uphold so if you are so brand conscious, go for the sony.
I suggest that you bring a dvd of your choice, recorded analog tv reception, and a laptop to test for its performance as a pc monitor then you decide.
In the end it's your personal satisfaction that would matter. I chose the Sharp coz this one appealed to me the most. ;D
Another point of consideration is that the service center is very near our place.
Good luck bro on your lcd tv hunt. Wala naman tama o maling sagot eh. ;)
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I agree. Sharp is better.
Also, Sharp is known for better quality, while I have had all kinds of problems with Sony product.
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Hmm.. I've never heard of YES until recently (like only the past year).
MAG has been around for a long time (known for very good computer monitors for the past 10yrs).
In fact, I have always wanted to buy a MAG monitor (for the PC)...never had the chance to do so.
I'd base it on specs at this point. Which one has the better resolution, contrast, and no. of colors.
ALso, see who has the better customer support...you can call both, and pretend you have a problem with
your 10month old TV set...see who accomodates you better over the phone. ;D
Without any additional information, I'll say MAG -and only because I've known/heard about them much longer.
In the market for a 32 inch budget LCD TV. What is better? MAG or YES. Any other brand better that these two in the same price range? Thanks.
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vax_xer - na try nyo po ba ung LCD nyo kung nag rereact sya sa ibang appliances? like sa bentilador ganun? parang mapapansin mo na nag rereact sa screen pero hindi naman namamatay? thanks!
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thanks for your opinion guys balitaan ko na lang kayo kung ano mapili ko.
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thanks for your opinion guys balitaan ko na lang kayo kung ano mapili ko.
I am a Sharp 37V HDTV LCD owner for the past 2 years and it has been great. And as far as the Japanese market is concerned, Sharp is THE BRAND for all applications that use LCD technology, especially HDTV (50-60% market share should speak for itself).
But you know what is really better right now? it's a Panasonic Plasma Viera...the colors are sooooo lovely and with their latest models, especially the 1080p panels, they have virtually eliminated the mesh grid look. if I were to replace my HDTV right now, I would choose a plasma no doubt.
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It's a bit confusing because sony 32V300A offered for only 55k with free HTIB and HDMI cable at SM MOA and since that this is just my starter kit using lcd.
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It's a bit confusing because sony 32V300A offered for only 55k with free HTIB and HDMI cable at SM MOA and since that this is just my starter kit using lcd.
you can read all the recommendations and reviews, etc. as a guide but it's better to let your eyes decide. you can't go wrong with either anyway.
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you can read all the recommendations and reviews, etc. as a guide but it's better to let your eyes decide. you can't go wrong with either anyway.
Ok thanks
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I think you just need one more push ;D
Read this link
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55263.0
This ought to remove SONY from your list instantly.
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Seen a MAG 32" being used as a pc monitor and it didn't pale in comparison with their smaller LCD monitors. But I've observed in Villman MOA that it wasn't as good when viewing movies. :-\
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I tried both Sony V200A and Aquos PX5M already - And for me, Sony > Sharp at all aspect..
Hope this helps
Fait
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I tried both Sony V200A and Aquos PX5M already - And for me, Sony > Sharp at all aspect..
Hope this helps
Fait
i'm with Fait on this one but like I said, it's not a he said, she said thing, let your eyes decide. can't go wrong with either.
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i have auditioned 32V200a and 32Px5m and i think v200a is better in PQ.
So audition and decide :)
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Im planning to get one but i cant decide which of both is better... Thanks
if i would consider getting a more pricier lcd, i'll get the sharp. i like its response and stable color in fast scenes. very natural and typical colors.
while on the other hand v300 is exaggerated in color contrast. i never tried to auditioned it longer than 30 minutes but my eyes get easily tired in trying to cope up with the bright color. too bright for my own taste.
for me, the color aspect of v300 is comparable to samsung r81.
but, isn't the trend is about as bright as you get? not just on lcd, it's the trend on digital camera too. if you ever get hold of sony H series (H2,H5 and H9) and uploaded them to your computer, this v300 is the TV counterpart of those sony camera in terms of the bright color trends. very bright but it is impressive as if you are in wonderland. ;D
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I'm selling both of them, so I'll telll the TRUTH.
Its true, madaming deadpixels ang MAG..... Better get the YES nalang! so far 4 clients na ang nag complain about this MAG tv, and one of them is my MOM! :P
;D
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In the market for a 32 inch budget LCD TV. What is better? MAG or YES. Any other brand better that these two in the same price range? Thanks.
Bro just add a few thousand and you'll get a branded LCD na like toshiba. save the hassle for returning for defective units. ;)
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Sharp.
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Ganun ba talaga kasama ang MAG... Yikes.. Kabibili ko lang ng 26" yesterday. Baka may difference na yung mga bagong model... I chose MAG simply because its a well known monitor brand...
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sir vimperial, saan nyo po nabili MAG nyo, and how much. baka pwede pa-pm naman. thanks.
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sa villman..
here is the model i bought.. kaso 26".. nagtataka lang ako kung bakit wala sa website.
http://www.maginnovision.com/Products/Product.aspx?sn=467&pi=2814
almost 30K.. they are offering it for 0% for 12 months.
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In terms of features, ano ba ang mas maganda?
haven't tried looking at other brands of lcds except Sony and Samsung. So far, between the two, mas maganda ang features ng Sony. True HD with 1080P na yung ibang models na 32" compared to Samsung na hindi pa 1080p kundi 1080i pa lang daw. Not sure on this features of samsung though. sabi lang nung taga sony. heheheh
Ano yung features nung sharp PX5M?
Thanks for the feedback mga sirs!
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To the people who have seen the difference. Please comment :D
Which one is better in terms of features and colors?
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btwn this 2, i rather got for the R8
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btwn this 2, i rather got for the R8
same here also R8
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To the people who have seen the difference. Please comment :D
Which one is better in terms of features and colors?
Hello, we are from Sights and Sounds at 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
Here is our observation between Toshiba 42A3000 and Samsung LA40R81.
At our showroom, we run a dvd player via HDMI splitter to distribute the picture to different brands of TVs. From our comparison, Samsung LA40R81 looks better than Toshiba 42A3000. Samsung LA40R81B grabs everyone’s attention with its high lively contrast. Watching dark scene movie via HDMI, this LA40R81B justify its claim of delivering dynamic 8000:1 contrast ratio: black scene is at its deep-black, while white scene is at clean paper-white. Deep blacks provide excellent shadow detail during dark scenes, while brilliant whites allow this Samsung to render bright scenes with vivid realism. With its Wide Color Expression engine, this LCD TV delivers amazing array of colors and shades to be savored in its finest details.
You may wish to check this out at our shop. See for yourself, after all seeing is believing.
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Samsung ;)
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it is obvious r81 is the choice. Dapat yata a3000 vs. S81.
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Sir, entry level lang po yung a3000. dapat ata sa WL68 mo sya icompare ;)
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Sir, entry level lang po yung a3000. dapat ata sa WL68 mo sya icompare ;)
I agree. Besides, IMHO, too much vivid pictures and very high contrast is good only in brightly-lit stores, maganda lang sa una. When you're watching movies at your home for several hours, hindi na enjoyable. Audition both ;)
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yep..quite obvious that the r81 is the better choice here in terms of PQ. i believe the r81 is also slightly more expensive.
but i'm quite intrigued as how the s81 and A3000 would fair against each other...considering all factors - price, connections, customer service, looks...everything ;D
would appreciate comments on this...because the 46 inch s81 is just very very tempting :o
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Usually ang samsung and I think other lcd's as well, mina-max nila yng contrast. Ang effect nito, magiging takaw atensyon yng colors esp red. Ang initial reaction natin, wow sobrang ganda ng PQ esp kung CG movie yng palabas. Pero if your really interested in buying lcd's, i-audition nyo muna sila using scenes w/ lots of white and w/ lots of details. yung tipong building na white. Kapag masyadong mataas ang contrast, mawawala yng details ng mga windows.
I notice this because I was comparing Toshiba and samsung. Initially parang hands down talo ang tosh pero after some testing, konti lng diff nila. Also, too much contrast will just strain your eyes. you will not be able to watch for 30mins at full contrast w/o hurting your eyes.
Oh and btw, i ended up saving a bit more and went for pana 42pv70 ;D
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im the same with u trig ;D
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I concur with observations of Sir Trig and Sir RX330. I was auditioning the 32A3000 and the Samsung R81 and although I chose the Samsung at first, after hours of looking at both screens and countless words of advice from Oliver of Listen Up Glorietta, I ended up buying the Toshiba. For me at least, the picture quality and skin tones were more pleasant on the Toshiba than the Samsung.
I'm sure though that you cannot go wrong with any of the two so I guess it all boils down to a users viewing preference and experience.
My .02!
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Hello, we are from Sights and Sounds at 4th level Shangri-La Plaza.
Here is our observation between Toshiba 42A3000 and Samsung LA40R81.
At our showroom, we run a dvd player via HDMI splitter to distribute the picture to different brands of TVs. From our comparison, Samsung LA40R81 looks better than Toshiba 42A3000. Samsung LA40R81B grabs everyone’s attention with its high lively contrast. Watching dark scene movie via HDMI, this LA40R81B justify its claim of delivering dynamic 8000:1 contrast ratio: black scene is at its deep-black, while white scene is at clean paper-white. Deep blacks provide excellent shadow detail during dark scenes, while brilliant whites allow this Samsung to render bright scenes with vivid realism. With its Wide Color Expression engine, this LCD TV delivers amazing array of colors and shades to be savored in its finest details.
You may wish to check this out at our shop. See for yourself, after all seeing is believing.
I always believe in samsung (I have a samsung 32r71).. Recently I was also making comparison of the Samsung 46m81 vs the toshiba 4768e bec wanna get one of these soon..I wanted the toshiba at first bec of the 1 inch advantage in screen size but after Going to those appliance stores and making kulit to toshiba and samsung by using their blu-ray and hddvd players, same movie (using the ones I brought) and same player(switching players back and forth). The samsung really blows the toshiba away, This is just my observation and opinion. Nothing against toshiba for I really like toshiba and actually like hddvd to win in the hidef format. But "ang layo" talaga sa colors, clarity, brightness. The samsung looks more alive. I was adjusting the toshiba picture also bec I thought its just the pic adjustment, but to no avail. Again this is nothing against people who have or bought toshiba, this is just my personal opinion and eye observation
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3 days ko na pala di nabalikan itong thread...
Many Many thanks to everyone who answered :) Though it makes my decision making harder, its good information.
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Usually ang samsung and I think other lcd's as well, mina-max nila yng contrast. Ang effect nito, magiging takaw atensyon yng colors esp red. Ang initial reaction natin, wow sobrang ganda ng PQ esp kung CG movie yng palabas. Pero if your really interested in buying lcd's, i-audition nyo muna sila using scenes w/ lots of white and w/ lots of details. yung tipong building na white. Kapag masyadong mataas ang contrast, mawawala yng details ng mga windows.
I notice this because I was comparing Toshiba and samsung. Initially parang hands down talo ang tosh pero after some testing, konti lng diff nila. Also, too much contrast will just strain your eyes. you will not be able to watch for 30mins at full contrast w/o hurting your eyes.
Oh and btw, i ended up saving a bit more and went for pana 42pv70 ;D
This is also what I observed when I auditioned lcd tv's at abensons glorietta. Side by side, all were displaying the same source simultaneously. The toshiba and panasonic lcd's image looked better (to me).
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both of these models are lousy and suffer from viewing angle problem. actually, all samsung lcds suffer from viewing angle problem since they don't use IPS panels. the older toshiba model is better than the 3000 series since toshiba is currently cutting productdion costs to enable them to complete in terms of pricing.
if you're planning to spend this much, you might as well get a 42 inch panasonic plasma that sells for around 70k.
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both of these models are lousy and suffer from viewing angle problem. actually, all samsung lcds suffer from viewing angle problem since they don't use IPS panels.
Hi, Sorry if this is OT but I'm curious because I'm looking to buy LCD TV too, but how much a viewing angle are we talking about here? Personally, the maximum angle I would sit is 60 degrees (plus/minus) the center of the TV. I wouldn't enjoy watching if it's more than that. Both of these LCD claim, if i remember right, a 172 degree, so that means, near 80 degrees(plus/minus) from the center. I would appreciate you observation from these LCDs. TIA.
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Hi, Sorry if this is OT but I'm curious because I'm looking to buy LCD TV too, but how much a viewing angle are we talking about here? Personally, the maximum angle I would sit is 60 degrees (plus/minus) the center of the TV. I wouldn't enjoy watching if it's more than that. Both of these LCD claim, if i remember right, a 172 degree, so that means, near 80 degrees(plus/minus) from the center. I would appreciate you observation from these LCDs. TIA.
they claim to have a 176 viewing angle at the horizontal plane at eye level. this claim does not account for the vertical plane which means that if you plan to wall mount your lcd, then the viewing angle issue will definitely be a problem since you'll be looking up the screen. horizontally, the off axis picture quality shifts dramatically beyond an estimated 45 degrees from center. colors become washed out or "namumuti" beyond the "sweet" spot. unless you watch at eye level, dead center and sit still then you're ok. but if you plan to use the tv to watch movies with family and friends then i suggest that you look somewhere else. also, please take note that they use a hard drive playing hd material showng scenes with vivid and bright colors in showrooms -- which minimizes and masks the problem. try playing a regular dvd especially with dark scenes and you'll have a better appreciation of how weak the lcd panels produce colors off axis.
for lcd, the best picture quality we've seen is from the panasonic lx700. the lower model lx70 too is a lot better compared to the samsung or toshiba. lg (specially the model with the s-ips panel), philips and sony are also good. also, the older toshiba model is actually better than the 3000 series. our only complaint on the panasonic is the lousy on-screen menu and the "plastic" feel of the casing.
anyway, don't take my word for it. i suggest you test the units thoroughly so you'll see for yourself because these things cost a lot of money.
please read this for more info re lcd panel technology: http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php (http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php)
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Hi,
I get the impression that you prefer other TV technology rather than LCD. Plasma? ;D
I will definitely audition/test it out first before buying, so I thank you very much for the information because advance preparation is also my plan. ;)
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Hi,
I get the impression that you prefer other TV technology rather than LCD. Plasma? ;D
I will definitely audition/test it out first before buying, so I thank you very much for the information because advance preparation is also my plan. ;)
we actually use a lcd tv at home. was torn between lcd or plasma but decided to get a lcd as the space is just right for a 32 incher, overkill na if 40 and above. if the space permits, i would recommend a plasma for 40 inches and above. it took us 2 weeks of online research and actual field testing (several trips to showrooms) before we decided to get the lcd. hope our inputs help. good luck on your search.
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I just want to ask if the price difference is worth it. Is it?
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Better let your eyes decide.. The 10k diff. between the U and the V series accounts for the additional HDMI port, and the Bravia engine.If your eyes cant see the difference, then get the U series.
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3 days ko na pala di nabalikan itong thread...
Many Many thanks to everyone who answered :) Though it makes my decision making harder, its good information.
Hi,
I noticed that you decided on Plasma(Panasonic 50PV70?) rather than LCD(choices for this thread), based on the group-buy thread. Do you mind sharing your thoughts about what made you switch/decide towards that path? TIA.
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for an average juan's opinion like me, my choices also boiled down to samsung and toshiba, eliminating the other brands first due to price points.
samsung had good reviews from happy owners of this lcd tv kaso it also has it's share of not so pleasant reviews such as their prized lcd broke down or has defects which is scary since the prices of these toys are not cheap.
so i went with toshiba - the picture is not too bright and just about right ;D real value for money and never fails to put a ;D smile on my face.
good thing my space is just small. so no need to watch from diff. angles.
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if the choice is ONLY between a Toshiba Regza 42A3000 and Samsung La40R81B, i'd go with the samsung.
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for an average juan's opinion like me, my choices also boiled down to samsung and toshiba, eliminating the other brands first due to price points.
samsung had good reviews from happy owners of this lcd tv kaso it also has it's share of not so pleasant reviews such as their prized lcd broke down or has defects which is scary since the prices of these toys are not cheap.
so i went with toshiba - the picture is not too bright and just about right ;D real value for money and never fails to put a ;D smile on my face.
good thing my space is just small. so no need to watch from diff. angles.
hello just curious, can you give me a link regarding the prized lcds breaking down or has defects..Where did you read that? A link would be great. Thanks
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Moks007 you got PM ;D
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Moks007 you got PM ;D
Thanks Juric
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Hi,
I noticed that you decided on Plasma(Panasonic 50PV70?) rather than LCD(choices for this thread), based on the group-buy thread. Do you mind sharing your thoughts about what made you switch/decide towards that path? TIA.
Upon learning the real price point of the 50PV70 (P12x,xxx), its now my 2nd choice because of budget constraints. If its under 100k, its the best bang for the buck.
As of now, Im still saving up for the LCD. At current prices, Choice 1 is still these 2 LCD's but if the 50 inch panasonic goes down in price, then I will get that.
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if you like 50pv70 but its out of your budget, why not consider 42pv70?
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wow... I got a 42a3000. very satisfied with it. In fact I love it. This is supposed to be my room tv, not my Home theater one but I honestly think it's good enough. I wonder why I should spend more for other brands. highly recommended specially for the price.
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I just came from sights and sounds in shangrila.
They had a samsung 40 inch beside a plasma panasonic 42pv70. they didnt have a 42a3000 toshiba, only the 32inch version there.
My thoughts:
best color for me is the samsung even compared to the panasonic plasma. i understand why some people find it too much though. the toshiba and panasonic has more subtle color. for color, its a preference thing so choose based on your eyes.
clarity - on HD content, the samsung wins out for me. but on DVD content, the panasonic looks a bit better, you can see pixels on the samsung sometimes. too bad they didnt have a toshiba 42 inch there.
thanks a lot to sir Victor for the demo :)
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the samsung is certainly the most attractive among the displays. hard to beat it's brightness and contrast. But also notice the lost details on the blacks. you can notice it when viewing the toshiba at the same time... but then you can always tone down the contrast on the adjustments... ika nga, you can't add more, only reduce... so maybe you can squeeze out more details from the samsung.. saken kase, the Tosh has 2 more inches and not so overly saturated colors... also 10-15 grand cheaper. ( I intended this to be my temp tv.. tho again, if I had gotten a 46 inch, I would be satisfied with it na rin as my real tv for a few years:).
also, there is a video test (also in Sights and Sounds) where a gray screen with various line images that scroll across the screen to test it.... guess which one doesn't have display issues. the samsung creates a strobing effect when displaying those line tests. weird when it's supposed to be a higher end lcd than the a3000.
thanks to Victor of Sights and Sounds btw! My only issue is the autotuning not working properly on my sky cable, I have to set each channel and it's annoying... still waiting for their screen calibrator/tech:)
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I just came from sights and sounds in shangrila.
They had a samsung 40 inch beside a plasma panasonic 42pv70. they didnt have a 42a3000 toshiba, only the 32inch version there.
My thoughts:
best color for me is the samsung even compared to the panasonic plasma. i understand why some people find it too much though. the toshiba and panasonic has more subtle color. for color, its a preference thing so choose based on your eyes.
clarity - on HD content, the samsung wins out for me. but on DVD content, the panasonic looks a bit better, you can see pixels on the samsung sometimes. too bad they didnt have a toshiba 42 inch there.
thanks a lot to sir Victor for the demo :)
I have sent you quite a few personal messages this morning. Hope you find my answers conforming to your inquiries.
By the way, we have just received the new batch of 42A3000 from Goldway-Toshiba late last night. The one on display at the shop yesterday is a new 1080p Full HD TV 42C3000. We invite you all out there to see the improved contrast and motion-flow image of this model.
Just for comparison, we find 42A3000 to be less inferior in contrast than Samsung LA42R81B. The 42C3000 has improved in many ways: picture, contrast, and image motion response. For those who are looking for brand name Toshiba and the price, 42A3000 is a good choice!
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which is better PQ?
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which is better PQ?
Check it out at Trinoma sir, 4 sila dun magkatabi. i think mas malinaw pa yung 42pv7 & 42 LG vs the 9800
pero kanya kanyang taste yan & depends sa pagtinging mo sir. ;D
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Hi guys!
Samsung LA32R81B or Panasonic TX-32LX70 or Sony KLV32U300A
Which one will you prefer between this three if you will consider the following things:
1) Quality and Life span
2) Normal Channel Television Watching
3) DVD Watching and PS2 Gaming
I'll be buying this last week of October and i'm down with this three choices. Base on your experience and knowledge about these two TV's sino mas prefer niyo?
Thanks in advance! Please share your knowledge. Thanks again!
Thanks sa lahat ng nag share ng opinions. I bought Panasonic 32LX70 since talagang ang layo ng difference ng Picture Quality nya at ung colors compare sa ibang brands. Pinag compare ko side by side Pana, Samsung, Sharp, at Toshiba and the 32LX70 really shows a big difference. Mas maganda talagang mag decide kapag side by side cla with 1 source. Thanks sa lahat!
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Hi guys!
Samsung LA32R81B or Panasonic TX-32LX70 or Sony KLV32U300A
Which one will you prefer between this three if you will consider the following things:
1) Quality and Life span
2) Normal Channel Television Watching
3) DVD Watching and PS2 Gaming
I'll be buying this last week of October and i'm down with this three choices. Base on your experience and knowledge about these two TV's sino mas prefer niyo?
Thanks in advance! Please share your knowledge. Thanks again!
Hi Sir Atlantiz!
Very nice topic to discuss! :) I too, like you, am planning to buy an LCD on November. So far, the Samsung LA32R81B is on top of my list, but I am looking forward to the inputs and opinions of the people who are knowledgable about this. I am interested to know what the best LCD is for TV/Cable viewing and PS2 gaming. ;D
Bravo! ;)
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Hi Stickfighter!
Samsung LA32R81B was also on the top of my list. Pero nung nag punta ako sa Sights and Sounds (thanks for being accomodating) last 4 days i think, Panasonic TX-32LX70 shows a very big difference in terms of Picture quality. Kaya mejo mahirap talaga mag decide. I hope the knowledgable people here can help us regarding these three LCD TV's.
Many thanks! :)
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Hi Stickfighter!
Samsung LA32R81B was also on the top of my list. Pero nung nag punta ako sa Sights and Sounds (thanks for being accomodating) last 4 days i think, Panasonic TX-32LX70 shows a very big difference in terms of Picture quality. Kaya mejo mahirap talaga mag decide. I hope the knowledgable people here can help us regarding these three LCD TV's.
Many thanks! :)
Hi again Sir Atlantiz! :)
Really??? What a coincidence!!! :o I'm going also to Sights and Sounds in Shang Mall later this afternoon to meet Sir Victor. I made an appointment with him. I'll give my opinion on the matter after my visit.
Cheers! ;D
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Well, i'll discuss about the sony brand since i myself got one last 3 weeks ago. But i bought the V series instead of the U which was KLV32V300A.. Upon my purchase, i tested the units side by side (the 32U300A and 32V300A) and i definitely saw the color difference which was that the V series was much more vivid and colorful and less pixellated compared to the U series, maybe because of the presence of their so-called bravia engine which they say is installed on the V but not on the U series. The test disc that was featured was shark tale, so plenty of colors were really observed and judging by my personal eye view the V series really standed out compared to the U. But the bad part is that the V series is 10 thousand pesos more of the pricetag of the U series. Nevertheless, i just picked the V series and also got the free home theatre and cordless earphones since what i am after is personal viewing satisfaction in my investment to last me several years to come.. Then this week, i glanced upon a new model of sony, the D series, it sports a motion flow technology and 24p film cinema feature, the two when combined produces a special effect wherein the visual that you can see is like a live video from a handycam shoot specially in fast moving scenes in which pixellations are really terminated.. If you are near trinoma, you could go to avant and see their 40" test display which features clips of spiderman, hellboy and swat and you could see what i mean.. But it's high price is a set back, it is 30 thousand pesos more than a V series. If you just want cinematic view a V series would fit in just fine, but if you want near realistic view and have spare cash to spend, then the D series can do. But personally, after watching the test demo of the D series again and again everytime i went to the mall, i find the V series more appealing to my view, since the motionflow technology does not activate all througout the video, it just select scenes thus the other scenes it just look like with the V series and sometimes it gets dizzy to view different frame rates. So in conclusion, i am happy to have purchased the KLV32V300A, its features and price fits me just fine.
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xxadonisxx, you made a good choice for getting a Sony V series. Along the series of Bravia 32", the V series is a good compromise.
What you have made so far is the comparison between the same Sony Bravia. Sony made 3 choices of Bravia with ascending features of one better than the another. It is natural that the D series will look better than the other two models because of better and superior feature.
However, while we focus on Sony V series, we can also find counterpart series model of another brands like Panasonic, Samsung, Toshiba, etc. By the way, the right comparative TVs for this discussion should be Samsung LA32R81B or Panasonic TX-32LX70 or Sony KLV32V300A. The KLV32U300 is a Sony entry-level TV which cannot come close to the features and picture quality as Samsung R series and Panasonic LX70. We cannot give justice to a defenseless feather-weigh TV to fight against a batam-weigh TV.
Comparing the 3 TVs at our Sights and Sounds Showroom, we rate number 1 for LA32R81B and TX32LX70, number 2 for KLV32V300. The significant difference in picture quality is very minimal. In fact, even the Sony presents very good picture that it deserves to be on the same podium as Samsung and Panasonic. However, its bundle deal, which comes with home-theater system and a wireless headphone, makes us to rate it number 2 choice because of non-flexibility for consumers choice to either buy the TV alone or to buy TV with another brand of home-theater system.
We invite the interested buyers to visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La to view and compare the different choices of TV available on display. For further inquiry, call 634-1789 to 90 or cell 09175413491.
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which is better PQ?
Sent you pm, Sir.
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ako very happy ako sa 9800 ko ;D
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technically the hitachi has more pixels so dapat mas malinaw siya, but its still the end-user who should decide by comparing them side by side (you should adjust the video settings yourself instead of letting the store do it for you)
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agree ako diyan. I once tested playing Cars sa store then played it sa bahay and the difference was very obvious. Even when they played Cars sa Philips LCD iba pa din yung 9800 ko ;D Yung red ni Lightning Mcqueen red talaga pero dun sa stores both units did not produce the bloody red color ;)
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it has good reviews din sa CNET Asia http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,39786042p,00.htm (http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av/tvs/0,39037585,39786042p,00.htm)
or maybe baka kaya ganito comment ko kasi love your own ;D
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which is better PQ?
Try mo nalang lahat bago ka bumili, meron naman remote para ikaw mag tune sa color preference mo. ;)
tapos pag nagustohan mo na presyo at freebies nalang pag usapan natin. ;) ;D ;D
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Try mo nalang lahat bago ka bumili, meron naman remote para ikaw mag tune sa color preference mo. ;)
tapos pag nagustohan mo na presyo at freebies nalang pag usapan natin. ;) ;D ;D
panasonic pv70 really rocks if you connect it to line conditioner.
the settings are at 35 due to break in period & yet it delivers it performance. (ordinary rca,pioneer progressive at 576p) sa tv 420p only.
watch the cars dvd, ang kintab ng mga cars bagong wax & you will see the
reflection parang salamin, i also saw the hitachi & its very good din.
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it really depends sa individual preference ;D pero minsan napaisip din ako dahil sa dami ng pumili ng PV70 over 9800 baka mali yung napili ko ;D kahit ano piliin mo diyan you can't go wrong ;) if only I was able to buy my unit at the same price it is now ;)
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Hi again Sir Atlantiz! :)
Really??? What a coincidence!!! :o I'm going also to Sights and Sounds in Shang Mall later this afternoon to meet Sir Victor. I made an appointment with him. I'll give my opinion on the matter after my visit.
Cheers! ;D
Dude what tym ka punta sa S & S? Sakto off shift ko ngaun sa work. Ok lng ba sabay na ako sau to meet Sir Victor? Txt me if ever ma read mo pa tong post ko thanks. 09154374175. Or i'll drop by there na lang if ever. Thanks!
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it really depends sa individual preference ;D pero minsan napaisip din ako dahil sa dami ng pumili ng PV70 over 9800 baka mali yung napili ko ;D kahit ano piliin mo diyan you can't go wrong ;) if only I was able to buy my unit at the same price it is now ;)
Buy ka nalang ulit ng plasma, bigay mo nalang yung dati mo sa in-laws mo....heheheh Xmas na naman eh. Pa good shot! para best son in law. ;D
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Buy ka nalang ulit ng plasma, bigay mo nalang yung dati mo sa in-laws mo....heheheh Xmas na naman eh. Pa good shot! para best son in law. ;D
buti na lang ako lang son in law ng biyenan ko ;D ;D kaya di ko na siya kailangan bigyan ng Plasma kasi wala ako kalaban sa best son in law crown. But after seeing the 50" at its current price, parang feeling ko maliit na yung screen nung Plasma ko ;) if only di na sabayan ng upgrade ng HT baka nakabili ulit ako ng 50" ;) puwede ba trade-in he he he
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However, its bundle deal, which comes with home-theater system and a wireless headphone, makes us to rate it number 2 choice because of non-flexibility for consumers choice to either buy the TV alone or to buy TV with another brand of home-theater system.
about the sony home theater, can i hook up another DVD player to this HT?
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buti na lang ako lang son in law ng biyenan ko ;D ;D kaya di ko na siya kailangan bigyan ng Plasma kasi wala ako kalaban sa best son in law crown. But after seeing the 50" at its current price, parang feeling ko maliit na yung screen nung Plasma ko ;) if only di na sabayan ng upgrade ng HT baka nakabili ulit ako ng 50" ;) puwede ba trade-in he he he
Bigyan nalang kita ng terms para magaan, pdc checks nalang. hehehe.. ;D
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Comparing the 3 TVs at our Sights and Sounds Showroom, we rate number 1 for LA32R81B and TX32LX70, number 2 for KLV32V300. The significant difference in picture quality is very minimal. In fact, even the Sony presents very good picture that it deserves to be on the same podium as Samsung and Panasonic. However, its bundle deal, which comes with home-theater system and a wireless headphone, makes us to rate it number 2 choice because of non-flexibility for consumers choice to either buy the TV alone or to buy TV with another brand of home-theater system.
i agree on this observation between the LA32R81B and TX32LX70 if you're watching at dead center position. in fact, for me the samsung's picture quality is even better. but what i hate about the samsung is its limited viewing angle capability where the pictuve quality drops dramatically when you move from the center position and specially at the vertical plane. again, as i have mentioned in my previous posts, bring your own dvd as a test material with lots of dark scenes so you'll see the difference. on another note, what i don't like about the sony is it's lousy reception and color quality when using cable.
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I'm with the Panasonic LCD ;D
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magkano na ngayon ang 9800ta?
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If I am not mistaken less than 90k na ;) A lot cheaper kaysa nung binili ko last June :(
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Question for the experts:
I am planning to buy one of the two as a gift for my grandmother.
It would just be used for cable tv & dvd movies.
A bigger LCD is out of the question due to space constraints (22" is the largest I could accomodate).
Although, I am open to other brands of around the same price range (20-25k).
Specs of Samsung 940MG:
http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/tft/tvmonitor/940mg.asp?page=Specifications
No online specs of the MAG (but these are printed on the ad of Villman):
- HDMI High Density Source w/o Loss
- Wide Viewing Angle w/o Limitation
- 1680 x 1050 Resolution
- Aspect Ratio 16:9 or 4:3
- Inputs: HDMI, VGA/Audio, Composite, Component, S-Video
- With SPDIF and Headphone Output
Which one would you pick?
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Dude what tym ka punta sa S & S? Sakto off shift ko ngaun sa work. Ok lng ba sabay na ako sau to meet Sir Victor? Txt me if ever ma read mo pa tong post ko thanks. 09154374175. Or i'll drop by there na lang if ever. Thanks!
Sir Atlantiz! :)
Musta! Sorry for missing this post, :( but at least we were still able to meet up. ;D I had the priviledge to have met Sir Atlantiz at Sights and Sounds, where we were both accomodated by Sir Victor. :)
I, for one, learned so much about the comparison between these three brands. Sir Victor, together with Sir Paul, provided so much information for me to narrow down my choice. I would like to thank Sir Victor and Sir Paul of Sights and Sounds for being so helpful and very accomodating. They both gave time for us to truly understand what is the right LCD unit for our needs. :) Thank you for the demos/set-ups for us to see the different effects on different devices hooked up to the LCD for us to see the kind of picture quality the units can produce. Maraming, maraming salamat Sights and Sounds!!! ;D I will see you very soon!!! ;D
Sir Atlantiz, it was nice meeting your accuantance. I have made my choice! Have you? :)
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id go for the samsung. the mag seems bulky.
my brother has the samsung and its nice. dont think your grandmother would need or want hdmi.
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baka puwede isama yung sharp LC32AX5M and toshiba 32A3000 32" lcd's dito sa comparison tutal magkalapit naman mga prices nila?
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baka puwede isama yung sharp LC32AX5M and toshiba 32A3000 32" lcd's dito sa comparison tutal magkalapit naman mga prices nila?
Although Sharp LC32AX5M and Toshiba 32A3000 are within price range of Samsung LA32R81B or Panasonic TX-32LX70 or Sony KLV32V300A (not KLV32U300), both Sharp and Toshiba cannot perform as good as the rivals.
You may wish to check out the picture comparison at our showroom Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. For further inquiry call 634-1789 to 90 or cell 09175413491.
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Sir Victor,
Talaga bang based sa opinion mo, mahina ang quality ng sharp and toshiba compared to sony, panasonic and samsung?
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Sir Victor,
Talaga bang based sa opinion mo, mahina ang quality ng sharp and toshiba compared to sony, panasonic and samsung?
This comparison is based on 32" category where the rival is between the above models. You had inquired from me earlier the 37" comparison. In 37" category, we need to compare according to levels of products. Most manufacturers have 2 choices: the entry-level and the higher-end model. I find it very unfair to compare a higher-end model with the entry-level model of another brand. Therefore, for the comaparison, one needs to compare higher-end Sony KLV37D300 against Sharp LC37P7, Samsung LA37R81B, and soon Toshiba 37C3500. The entry level comparison should be Hitachi 37LD9000, Sharp LC37AX5, and Toshiba 37A3000.
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Sir Victor,
Talaga bang based sa opinion mo, mahina ang quality ng sharp and toshiba compared to sony, panasonic and samsung?
The proper comparison for the low end 32" LCD TV should be Sony KLV32U300 against Sharp LC32AX5, Samsung LA32S81B and Toshiba 32A3000.
Comparison for the high-end 32" LCD TV should be Samsung LA32R81B against Panasonic TX-32LX70 and Sony KLV32V300A.
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This comparison is based on 32" category where the rival is between the above models. You had inquired from me earlier the 37" comparison. In 37" category, we need to compare according to levels of products. Most manufacturers have 2 choices: the entry-level and the higher-end model. I find it very unfair to compare a higher-end model with the entry-level model of another brand. Therefore, for the comaparison, one needs to compare higher-end Sony KLV37D300 against Sharp LC37P7, Samsung LA37R81B, and soon Toshiba 37C3500. The entry level comparison should be Hitachi 37LD9000, Sharp LC37AX5, and Toshiba 37A3000 or soon Toshiba 37A3500.
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Thanks sir victor
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Nice meeting you too Sir Stickfighter!
Yup! I already decided to go for Samsung R81. Thanks din dude for sharing lots of things about sa set ups ng HT. Thanks din po s mga nag post s thread na ito for posting your info's and opinions. Many thanks to S & S. Sir Victor and Sir Paul.
Thanks everyone! ;)
Sir Atlantiz, sent you a PM!
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I have sent you quite a few personal messages this morning. Hope you find my answers conforming to your inquiries.
By the way, we have just received the new batch of 42A3000 from Goldway-Toshiba late last night. The one on display at the shop yesterday is a new 1080p Full HD TV 42C3000. We invite you all out there to see the improved contrast and motion-flow image of this model.
Just for comparison, we find 42A3000 to be less inferior in contrast than Samsung LA42R81B. The 42C3000 has improved in many ways: picture, contrast, and image motion response. For those who are looking for brand name Toshiba and the price, 42A3000 is a good choice!
Sir pa PM nga ng price, baka kaya ;D
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E-reply,
Pa PM nmn po ng price ng Toshiba 42A3000.
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i'd go with the Samsung.. just my thoughts.. :)
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Sir pa PM nga ng price, baka kaya ;D
Sent you pm, sir.
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E-reply,
Pa PM nmn po ng price ng Toshiba 42A3000.
Sent you pm, sir.
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@E-reply
sent you pm ;D
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New model 42c3500 and 42x3500 1920 x1080p na. Next week available at theater works. ;)
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Honga, pa pm na rin price! :)
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Honga, pa pm na rin price! :)
sent you pm, sir.
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New model 42c3500 and 42x3500 1920 x1080p na. Next week available at theater works. ;)
Pambihira! hindi pa nga ako maka decide ng kukunin, meron na naman bago! ;D
PM nga ng price Sir Jeff. May spec ka nito?
TIA!
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Pambihira! hindi pa nga ako maka decide ng kukunin, meron na naman bago! ;D
PM nga ng price Sir Jeff. May spec ka nito?
TIA!
sent you pm regarding the new Toshiba LCD TV.
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sent you pm regarding the new Toshiba LCD TV.
Thanks Boss VIC!
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This comparison is based on 32" category where the rival is between the above models. You had inquired from me earlier the 37" comparison. In 37" category, we need to compare according to levels of products. Most manufacturers have 2 choices: the entry-level and the higher-end model. I find it very unfair to compare a higher-end model with the entry-level model of another brand. Therefore, for the comaparison, one needs to compare higher-end Sony KLV37D300 against Sharp LC37P7, Samsung LA37R81B, and soon Toshiba 37C3500. The entry level comparison should be Hitachi 37LD9000, Sharp LC37AX5, and Toshiba 37A3000 or soon Toshiba 37A3500.
E-reply so can you compare SONY 32d as against SHARP A53? which one is better performance? after service?
at the moment i will only be watching our regular cable tv and sd dvds. no ps3 yet.
thanks.
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Buhayin ko lang ito. I saw the Panasonic 32LX70, Toshiba 32C3500, and Sony 32U300 side-by-side. Unfortunately, hindi naka setup yung Samsung 32R81. Base on the 3 earlier models, 32LX70 ang gusto ko. Next time siguro i-audition ko yung Samsung with Panasonic. May tanong lang ako. Does 32LX70 really have an IPS panel? Sa net kasi, TC-32LX70 ang IPS Panel, pero TX-32LX70 ang mayroon dito eh. Ano ba difference ng TC sa TX? Regarding, Samsung, hanggang 1080i lang ba talaga ang kaya i-support ng 32R81b? I understand na both are only 720p native resolution, pero syempre, wala naman masama kung kaya niya i-support ang 1080p. ;D
Between the two, 32LX70 and 32R81B, which tickles your fancy? ;)
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Buhayin ko lang ito. I saw the Panasonic 32LX70, Toshiba 32C3500, and Sony 32U300 side-by-side. Unfortunately, hindi naka setup yung Samsung 32R81. Base on the 3 earlier models, 32LX70 ang gusto ko. Next time siguro i-audition ko yung Samsung with Panasonic. May tanong lang ako. Does 32LX70 really have an IPS panel? Sa net kasi, TC-32LX70 ang IPS Panel, pero TX-32LX70 ang mayroon dito eh. Ano ba difference ng TC sa TX? Regarding, Samsung, hanggang 1080i lang ba talaga ang kaya i-support ng 32R81b? I understand na both are only 720p native resolution, pero syempre, wala naman masama kung kaya niya i-support ang 1080p. ;D
Between the two, 32LX70 and 32R81B, which tickles your fancy? ;)
Both R81 and LX70 = upto 1080i only. Pero ako na nagsasabi sau bro sa 1080i pa lang sulit kana basta i tandem mo lang din sa ok na player ;D
Here's a pic from my LX70 and DV600 na source
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/arthurlim/Picture012.jpg)
I tried R81, LX70, Sharp, Tosh, and hitachi side by side and ung LX70 ung nag display ng outstanding PQ (kuhang kuha ung color tone ng tao) followed by the R81. Ti nry nmin habulin ung LX70 by adjusting ung R81 pero di nmin nahabol. Based to from my experience s pag o audition. Pero oks din naman cla lahat dahil may kanya kanyang strength and weaknesses cla. Nasa preference mo nlng tlga kung anu mas gusto mo. I really love to watch movies kaya the great PQ of LX70 suits me up. :)
Not sure about the IPS panel :)
Hope this helps ;)
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Hi Thurzki,
Nice! Congrats on your 32LX70. Gusto ko tuloy makita ang LX70 vs R81. :D Yung Toshiba vs Panasonic kasi, na overwhelm ako sa brightness ni Tosh. Unfair yung para sa Sony kasi U series lang nakita ko, at mahal eh, kaya hindi ko sinama sa list ko. Totoo yung sabi ninyo na iba ang i-audition para masabi mo talaga kung alin ang mas pabor sa mata mo. Siguro kung hindi magkakatabi yun, kahit alin doon ay ok para sa akin. ;D
1080i lang ang LX70? Talaga? Hindi ko kasi pinansin sobra yung 1080 resolution, kasi parang sumobra ang upscale, pumangit tuloy. Naintindihan mo ba? Kaya 720p ako nag concentrate. Anyway, 1st audition pa lang naman, basic test pa lang ako. Next time, balak kong magdala ng dvds ko, at isasama ko si budget minister. :D
Cheers!
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What's the difference of the Panasonic LE7 and LX70, their spec sheets look the same aside from the CEC enabled HDMI & two tone color of the LX70 versus the LE7's Viera link and mono black look? Are the panels different or perhaps the place of manufacture?
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What's the difference of the Panasonic LE7 and LX70, their spec sheets look the same aside from the CEC enabled HDMI & two tone color of the LX70 versus the LE7's Viera link and mono black look? Are the panels different or perhaps the place of manufacture?
compare mo sa shop @ Trinoma side by side, you'll see. ;)
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compare mo sa shop @ Trinoma side by side, you'll see. ;)
Heed Jeffs advice ;) I got the panny LX70 at Trinoma.
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Heed Jeffs advice ;) I got the panny LX70 at Trinoma.
from what e-reply posted LX70 and LE7 have the same resolution, contrast ratio and HDMI input (2). please post naman the other differences aside from the price difference of 3.2k. tia
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Yes sir, pls state the differences both from technical specs and from your own opinion for the LE7 and LX70. I would really like to buy one this month.
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Buhayin ko lang ito. I saw the Panasonic 32LX70, Toshiba 32C3500, and Sony 32U300 side-by-side. Unfortunately, hindi naka setup yung Samsung 32R81. Base on the 3 earlier models, 32LX70 ang gusto ko. Next time siguro i-audition ko yung Samsung with Panasonic. May tanong lang ako. Does 32LX70 really have an IPS panel? Sa net kasi, TC-32LX70 ang IPS Panel, pero TX-32LX70 ang mayroon dito eh. Ano ba difference ng TC sa TX? Regarding, Samsung, hanggang 1080i lang ba talaga ang kaya i-support ng 32R81b? I understand na both are only 720p native resolution, pero syempre, wala naman masama kung kaya niya i-support ang 1080p. ;D
Between the two, 32LX70 and 32R81B, which tickles your fancy? ;)
i'm glad you guys are seeing the light and beginning to appreciate the "difference" between the panasonic lx70 vs other models at the same price point. again, each has his own personal preference. but on a technical standpoint, the lx70 is arguably superior in pq vs competition.
with reference to your question re ips panel, the only model fitted with the ips panel is the lx700. also, the lx700 is capable of displaying up to 1080p.
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i'm glad you guys are seeing the light and beginning to appreciate the "difference" between the panasonic lx70 vs other models at the same price point. again, each has his own personal preference. but on a technical standpoint, the lx70 is arguably superior in pq vs competition.
with reference to your question re ips panel, the only model fitted with the ips panel is the lx700. also, the lx700 is capable of displaying up to 1080p.
According to pana websites, the TC LX70 or the TX LX70 are fitted with IPS panel.
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which is better IPS panel or S-PVA panel?
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btw how much is the samsung 32r81 and pana 32lx70? thanks
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According to pana websites, the TC LX70 or the TX LX70 are fitted with IPS panel.
confusing coz it says wxga panel in their local web site: http://www.panasonic.com.ph/VIERATV.htm (http://www.panasonic.com.ph/VIERATV.htm). also, in their user manuals. the only model that mentions ips in the pana web site, box and manual is the lx700. not sure about the imported models though. but ips or not, the lx70 still produces more stunning pictures vs competition.
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which is better IPS panel or S-PVA panel?
ips panels are superior to s-pva. below is a portion of an article from http://www.lcdresource.com/lcdtech/ (http://www.lcdresource.com/lcdtech/)
that's why it makes me wonder why not many people notice the flaws of s-pva well in fact it's very obvious.
IPS PANELS
I like to call these the "stable" TFT type. They have a stable role in the market, that is, in the photo-editing and high-end sectors they will always be the tops. Their image is near perfectly stable in all directions. Color reproduction and brightness regulation is the most stable of any LCD.
Unfortunately, another thing about them that is stable is the price. You'll always pay at the very least a 25% premium for this type, typically ranging from 40-60%. On the market, they are relatively rare. The cheapest, widely available 20.1" widescreen using S-IPS technology (the NEC 20WMGX2) cost $570 at the time of writing. Meanwhile, the HP LP2065, a 20.1" 4:3 screen utilizing S-IPS, cost $405 with some rebates available.2
When it comes to skin tones, IPS type panels are far ahead of others. Gamma and color regulation is amazing, the closest to a good CRT you'll ever come. Nearly all IPS panels reproduce 256 levels of brightness. Response time, with overdrive, is roughly twice as slow as TN panels, which in itself is not bad at all.
VA PANELS
These mid-range panels are a nice sacrifice between TNs and IPSes. They don't have nearly the amount of uniformity or viewing angle problems that TNs do. However, they will still slightly shift in color when viewed from medium to extreme angles. Additionally, they will hide details at a perpendicular (straight-on) viewing angle because of how the crystals are arranged. The brightness on the most recent VA panels makes this not so much an issue. VA panels are technically capable of displaying 256 levels of brightness, but not all do.
Contrast on VA-type panels is stellar. White level is high and black level is very low. That doesn't make the image the best of all these types, though. For rather unknown reasons, current VA panels have a hard time producing midtones naturally. They tend to look a little over-bright. Likely it is because the color temperature regulation is less consistent than that of a good IPS panel.
Response time is by far the slowest, but as always this can be offset by using a good overdrive algorithm to use the crystal technology in the most efficient pattern.
Which is Best for Me?
Number crunchers and clerks are best suited to VA panels due to their nice bright appearance and minimal screen door effect. MVAs come at a price anyone can afford as long as you find the right model. Their wide viewing angle will make office work a pleasure. That doesn't mean IPS screens aren't just as good for this purpose, but they generally come at a higher price. Also, if you notice the screen door effect, they could make prolonged usage painful. The lower brightness IPS panels don't have nearly the problem as the high brightness ones, such as the AS-IPS variant NEC 20WMGX2.
Photo editors will want to stick with the tried-and-true IPS panels. If the price is simply too high for you, VA panels being 8-bit and high-contrast aren't a bad alternative. However, you won't get the natural colors of a quality IPS screen, especially if you leave your display uncalibrated. Be sure to properly adjust the LCD for the angle you're viewing at, as MVA screens have multiple domains and detail is hidden at a perpendicular angle.
Which leaves us with...TNs. These types of panels are for hardcore gamers who want the absolute minimum response time. As you should know, contrast and viewing angles will suffer with these types. The best part of TNs is how affordable they are, but that also means you'll have to choose carefully to avoid low quality panels.
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According to pana websites, the TC LX70 or the TX LX70 are fitted with IPS panel.
Hi,
Where did you find that web site? There also a TX-32LXD70A. I think it's in Australia and I think it has a HD-tuner already. So, I'm assuming it's a different one. I'm now looking at google for ways to identify IPS vs other panel.
http://panasonic.com.au/products/specifications.cfm?objectID=3879 (http://panasonic.com.au/products/specifications.cfm?objectID=3879)
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which is better IPS panel or S-PVA panel?
I started a thread last year, which I entitled "LCD Tech Discussion". Unfortunately, nobody seemed to be interested at the time. :D
Here's the one and only post on that thread:
Since I'm no techie, I've been waiting for someone to discuss LCD tech for quite a while. Unfortunately, all I read about in our threads are the manufacturer's specs of contrast ratios, response times and the usual "Samsung makes panels for Sony" stuff.
How about discussing these issues for instance:
1. LCD Panel Types.
The 3 most popular types are the TN, S-PVA and S-IPS panels. TN is not suitable for home theater use, so only S-PVA and S-IPS should be relevant for our purposes.
The professional consensus is that S-IPS panels are superior to S-PVA. S-IPS screens have more accurate colors, while S-PVA screens have oversaturated and inaccurate colors. S-IPS screens retain accurate gamma levels at extreme angles, while S-PVA screens exhibit gamma shift when viewed at even a slight angle. Despite the manufacturer's specs, S-IPS panels reportedly have better response times than S-PVA. While the newer S-PVAs have better contrast ratios, S-IPS is still preferred by graphics professionals.
Due to Sony's extemely agressive push for the Bravias, we usually see only the S-PVA on the showroom floor via the Samsungs and the Bravias. Sony's Bravia is the best I've seen, but I also hear that it's still not good enough.
I hear that the Hitachi Director's Series LCD, an S-IPS panel, is way better than the Bravias (S-PVA). Has anybody seen one?
2. Manufacturer's misleading specs.
Audio enthusiasts are no strangers to misleading specs from manufacturers. But this time, it's the flat panel manufacturers who have recently gotten in on the act.
Response time is usually measured by manufacturers as the sum of rising time (the time required to turn a pixel from white to black) and fall time (from black to white again). In real viewing situations, the more relevant measurement is the response time between colors. Turning a pixel from light gray to dark gray would result in a very different measurement, since the crystals will move more slowly.
The next time you see a "4 ms." response time claim, think again.
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that's why it makes me wonder why not many people notice the flaws of s-pva well in fact it's very obvious.
I believe, like the nature of the flaw, people don't view their LCD TVs at an angle that it becomes obvious. Personally, I wouldn't mind too, because I won't sit at the side of the TV. I'd rather not watch if that's my sitting place. Fortunately for TX-32LX70, it does produce a better PQ for me. It being or not being an IPS-Panel does not effect my inclination for it. The IPS-Panel just makes me feel better about choosing it over the other. Now, if Samsung 32R81B would produce that same or better PQ, then it's another story. ;D I would say that, "Beauty is really in the eye of the beholder". ;)
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Hi,
Where did you find that web site? There also a TX-32LXD70A. I think it's in Australia and I think it has a HD-tuner already. So, I'm assuming it's a different one. I'm now looking at google for ways to identify IPS vs other panel.
http://panasonic.com.au/products/specifications.cfm?objectID=3879 (http://panasonic.com.au/products/specifications.cfm?objectID=3879)
For TC and TX models :
www2.panasonic.com/.../shop/Televisions/LCD-Flat-Panel-TVs/model.TC-32LX70_11002_7000000000000005702 - 120k -
http://www.panasonic.nl/default.asp
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ang sony bravia ano panel ang gamit?
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Sony and Samsung use S-PVA.
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I read on foreign forums that Panasonic LCDs have a tendency to emit a buzzing sound, possibly from the backlight transformer/inverter.
Anybody experiencing a buzzing Panasonic LCD TV?
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Meron na rin akong nabasa dito na buzzing Sony LCD TV:
yung bravia ko napansin ko nung tahimik yung kwarto may hising sound na mahina ng parang livewire
kht i on meron padin....
sobrang iritating yung sound!! >:( >:( >:(
kailangan ko pa dalhin sa sony service center >:(
i just bought this unit a month ago tapos ganito! >:(
kht na covered ng warranty badtrip padin!
Ewan ko lang kung nasolve ang problema.
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sa sony bravia klv-32v300a ko wala akong naririnig na buzzing sound, napakatahimik.
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Ung LX70 ko no experience sa buzzing sound tahimik nman cya tsaka tinry ko din pang videoke cya and ok nman :)
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Yes sir, pls state the differences both from technical specs and from your own opinion for the LE7 and LX70. I would really like to buy one this month.
Compare the unit side by side sir, nasa preference mo yung kung w/c suits you best. Same naman sila, color lang iba. ;)
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Sony and Samsung use S-PVA.
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I read on foreign forums that Panasonic LCDs have a tendency to emit a buzzing sound, possibly from the backlight transformer/inverter.
Anybody experiencing a buzzing Panasonic LCD TV?
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Meron na rin akong nabasa dito na buzzing Sony LCD TV:
Ewan ko lang kung nasolve ang problema.
no buzzing sound from my panasonic lx700, it's dead quiet. siguro manufacturing defect yan with some lcds regardless of brand.
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I believe, like the nature of the flaw, people don't view their LCD TVs at an angle that it becomes obvious. Personally, I wouldn't mind too, because I won't sit at the side of the TV. I'd rather not watch if that's my sitting place. Fortunately for TX-32LX70, it does produce a better PQ for me. It being or not being an IPS-Panel does not effect my inclination for it. The IPS-Panel just makes me feel better about choosing it over the other. Now, if Samsung 32R81B would produce that same or better PQ, then it's another story. ;D I would say that, "Beauty is really in the eye of the beholder". ;)
the inability of other lcd panels to generate accurate colors at angles is one of the reasons why panasonic has better picture quality because the color presentation is more stable and doesn't shift dramatically specially in the vertical plane.
and, it's not only the weakness in viewing angle of other lcds that bother me but also the high level of backlight leak emanating from the other brands. i think the main reason why most people are not able to detect this flaw is because of the high level of lighting in showrooms. try to watch the lcd tv in near or complete darkness and you don't have to have perfect vision to see this other obvious flaw.
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Well, i'll discuss about the sony brand since i myself got one last 3 weeks ago. But i bought the V series instead of the U which was KLV32V300A.. Upon my purchase, i tested the units side by side (the 32U300A and 32V300A) and i definitely saw the color difference which was that the V series was much more vivid and colorful and less pixellated compared to the U series, maybe because of the presence of their so-called bravia engine which they say is installed on the V but not on the U series. The test disc that was featured was shark tale, so plenty of colors were really observed and judging by my personal eye view the V series really standed out compared to the U. But the bad part is that the V series is 10 thousand pesos more of the pricetag of the U series. Nevertheless, i just picked the V series and also got the free home theatre and cordless earphones since what i am after is personal viewing satisfaction in my investment to last me several years to come.. Then this week, i glanced upon a new model of sony, the D series, it sports a motion flow technology and 24p film cinema feature, the two when combined produces a special effect wherein the visual that you can see is like a live video from a handycam shoot specially in fast moving scenes in which pixellations are really terminated.. If you are near trinoma, you could go to avant and see their 40" test display which features clips of spiderman, hellboy and swat and you could see what i mean.. But it's high price is a set back, it is 30 thousand pesos more than a V series. If you just want cinematic view a V series would fit in just fine, but if you want near realistic view and have spare cash to spend, then the D series can do. But personally, after watching the test demo of the D series again and again everytime i went to the mall, i find the V series more appealing to my view, since the motionflow technology does not activate all througout the video, it just select scenes thus the other scenes it just look like with the V series and sometimes it gets dizzy to view different frame rates. So in conclusion, i am happy to have purchased the KLV32V300A, its features and price fits me just fine.
For those who like to compare the 32 inch bravia D V & U series pls check out abenson (Cyberzone north EDSA) i saw the 3 models na magkakatabi at isa lang ang film shown. you can esaily see the difference sa colr & motion.
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I am planning to buy a 32 inch LCD TV soon. I have narrowed my budget & preference to these 2 models. Both are the high end models for their respective brands. Is it advisable to spend the 5k+ on philips? Is a 3rd HDMI on the side or front really necessary? Do both brands offer the zero dead pixel warranty? In terms of durability which is preferred?
I'll be using it mainly on watching videos/cable and possibly my nephew will play his ps2 games here.
Here are the specs I have so far:
Philips Panasonic
Contrast 8000:1 8500:1
100Hz yes yes
Response time 3ms 6ms
Panel type Spvi (Hard Panel) IPS Alpha
HDMI Inputs 3 2 (both on rear)
Cost on brochure 94980 89900
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Do both brands offer the zero dead pixel warranty?
it is not on your list but based on my experience sony replaced my panel after 1 month of use due to a 1 dead pixel and even replaced the whole unit when finding out that the defect was mainly from the unit itself. Now that is zero dead pixel warranty.
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thanks for the feedback. unfortunately, the high end of the sony 32 inch lcd tv is beyond my budget that's one of the reason i am not considering buying a sony.
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Here are the specs I have so far:
Philips Panasonic
Contrast 8000:1 8500:1
100Hz yes yes
Response time 3ms 6ms
Panel type Spvi (Hard Panel) IPS Alpha
HDMI Inputs 3 2 (both on rear)
Cost on brochure 94980 89900
Sir will you actually pay the "on-brochure" prices? Its too much. There are stores which will offer you lower prices. Lets say about 60K for LX700. ;)
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If you are into gaming, Philips is a better choice because of the faster response time. The response time is one of the most important consideration if you plan to use the panel in gaming.
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Sir will you actually pay the "on-brochure" prices? Its too much. There are stores which will offer you lower prices. Lets say about 60K for LX700. ;)
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I would appreciate it if you can PM me some stores with better price offer. thanks.
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If you are into gaming, Philips is a better choice because of the faster response time. The response time is one of the most important consideration if you plan to use the panel in gaming.
thanks for your input i will seriously consider it.
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I am planning to buy a 32 inch LCD TV soon. I have narrowed my budget & preference to these 2 models. Both are the high end models for their respective brands. Is it advisable to spend the 5k+ on philips? Is a 3rd HDMI on the side or front really necessary? Do both brands offer the zero dead pixel warranty? In terms of durability which is preferred?
I'll be using it mainly on watching videos/cable and possibly my nephew will play his ps2 games here.
Here are the specs I have so far:
Philips Panasonic
Contrast 8000:1 8500:1
100Hz yes yes
Response time 3ms 6ms
Panel type Spvi (Hard Panel) IPS Alpha
HDMI Inputs 3 2 (both on rear)
Cost on brochure 94980 89900
SD card slot Yes
Pip Yes
Built in upcaler Vreal2
Pana 32LX700 has 0 dead pixel policy. ;)
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i also considered philips but ended up getting the panasonic lx700.
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i also considered philips but ended up getting the panasonic lx700.
Been to automatic super center @ araneta center cubao. They have demo units for both philips 32pfl9432 and panasonic tx-32lx700. mas ok talaga ang picture quality nung panasonic. I even connected my t-100 cybershot via av inputs the panasonic gave a better pq.
Does a 3rd HDMI really matter? Mas preferred ba talaga na gamitin ang HDMI cable over the rgb dvd cable? sa lahat kasi ng 32 inch lcd tv model na nakita ko ung panasonic lang ang 2 HDMI inputs lahat 3 na.
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It depends if you're buying HDMI devices to connect to your TV. Like you mentioned, you have a nephew with PS2. It's more likely that you'll upgrade it to PS3 or xBox360, which uses HDMI. On the other hand, as an option, there's HDMI switcher/selector (I'm not sure what it's really called :)) already. Even if you have only one HDMI, this device will help solve that problem.
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Been to automatic super center @ araneta center cubao. They have demo units for both philips 32pfl9432 and panasonic tx-32lx700. mas ok talaga ang picture quality nung panasonic. I even connected my t-100 cybershot via av inputs the panasonic gave a better pq.
Does a 3rd HDMI really matter? Mas preferred ba talaga na gamitin ang HDMI cable over the rgb dvd cable? sa lahat kasi ng 32 inch lcd tv model na nakita ko ung panasonic lang ang 2 HDMI inputs lahat 3 na.
having 3 or more hdmi inputs depends on your personal preference. in my case, i only use 1 hdmi input since i only connect 1 device to the tv--my dvd player. i also don't think one will use all the inputs at the same time which means that you can connect and disconnect the devices as needed. or better yet, just buy a hdmi switcher like what IceTea suggested if you want convenience.
is hdmi better than rgb? based on my observation, it becomes significant only if you're input signal is more than 480p. btw, the lx700 hdmi input accepts both 50 and 60hz signals which is better than those offered by competition.
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I think the Pana is better than Philips. But you might want to consider also the types of inputs you will be using to your "high end" LCD of choice. Sayang naman to pay this amount if you will only use standard dvd or cable tv lang. There is a Pana 42 " Plasma available now in the market at half your budget. Very good for DVD and cable TV viewing. Ok na din sa PS2 ;). Another option is to add mga 10k more and makabili ka na ng 50" Pana Plasma.
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IMHO, you might want to consider also the types of inputs you will be using to your "high end" LCD of choice. Sayang naman to pay this amount if you will only use standard dvd or cable tv lang. There is a Pana 42 " Plasma available now in the market at half your budget. Very good for DVD and cable TV viewing. Ok na din sa PS2 ;). Another option is to add mga 10k more and makabili ka na ng 50" Pana Plasma.
may point si vtec3 dyan. like the hdmi inputs, at the end of the day, it boils down to your personal preference and priorities. good luck on your search for the right flat panel.
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Thank you much for your inputs! More power to PDvd.
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I just got myself a Samsung LN-T3242H at bestbuy last thanksgiving and a 5.1 home theater all in all the amount that i paid is 48k pesos including the shipping to manila..
i just want to know if which is better the Samsung LN-T3242H or Sony Bravia KLV-32V300a .. i heard that Sony Bravia KLV-32V300a is just 44k alone and 53k with freebies at s&s.. should i return the samsung and get the sony at S&S in Shang? i wouldnt mind to stretch my budget.
just a want a great lcd for gaming and viewing as well..
thanks in advance for those who are great help..
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I own a KLV-32V300A and i am happy with this LCD tv, just make sure that the unit that you will get is free from factory defects like dead pixels etc. and all will do just fine. The picture quality is really stunning since it already sports the bravia engine which maximizes the color depth of the tv, unlike the lower model which is the "U" series wherein the color quality is really night and day because i compared the unit side by side when i made my purchase. see my thread here: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=74274.0
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ASSUMING these two are on the same price range, (say difference of 5k) which one would you take? TV will be used for normal TV viewing, DVD viewing and PS2 games...thanks
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ASSUMING these two are on the same price range, (say difference of 5k) which one would you take? TV will be used for normal TV viewing, DVD viewing and PS2 games...thanks
The new model of Panasonic LX series is 32LX77. Better yet compare 32LX77 vs 32S310. The Pana presents almost same picture quality as 32S310, but price is better.
At Sights and Sounds, we carry 32LX77. However, this was sold out yesterday. We are expecting new arrival this coming Wednesday. You may wish to visit us to see and compare the picture between Panasonic and other brands.
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ASSUMING these two are on the same price range, (say difference of 5k) which one would you take? TV will be used for normal TV viewing, DVD viewing and PS2 games...thanks
Go for pana sir! ;)
same lang requirement mo sa ginagamit ko. ;D mas black ang pana vs the sony.
merry xmas!
Xmas sale din kami @theater works Trinoma or Stop Look N'Listen Robinson Pioneer
katabi ko Sony sa trinoma you can compare, mga staff dun they will admit na maganda talaga PQ ng pana.
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katabi ko Sony sa trinoma you can compare, mga staff dun they will admit na maganda talaga PQ ng pana.
Bad ka, sir Nemesis91. Baka mapagalitan ang Sony staff, Christmas pa naman ... 8) (joke :D)
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Bad ka, sir Nemesis91. Baka mapagalitan ang Sony staff, Christmas pa naman ... 8) (joke :D)
LOL. :D
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hi..
i would like to know ur comments or reviews on the Samsung 32R81B - 32" LCD TV.
Since it is now December 2007 and I know the price now is
(STANDARD DEAL) Php 54900 -> 12-18% months 0% interest. Just Add Php 5000 for DVD Home Theater.. hey that's what all the dealers said..
but when I talked to some dealer in new Abenson at LandMark, he said he can give it to me as lower to Php 52,000 including the DVD Home Theater without adding Php 5,000.
Plus I can make it to installment purchases..upto 12months!
But first or before I will buy this model I would like to know your reviews or personal comments as buyer for this model. :o :o
Thanks people and Merry Christmas!!!
Sony Bravia has its own promo too.. On Straigth Card Purchase / Cash, a SOny Bravia 32" LCD TV worth Php 77,000 has a discount promo worth Php 25,000 including the DVD Home Theater and wireless bluetooth headset. But it cannot be arrange in installment purchases. So the payment will be Php 52,000 only straight purchase. ::) ::)
So which is the best buy for this (price deal and LCD quality)?
??? ??? ???
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hi..
i would like to know ur comments or reviews on the Samsung 32R81B - 32" LCD TV.
Since it is now December 2007 and I know the price now is
(STANDARD DEAL) Php 54900 -> 12-18% months 0% interest. Just Add Php 5000 for DVD Home Theater.. hey that's what all the dealers said..
but when I talked to some dealer in new Abenson at LandMark, he said he can give it to me as lower to Php 52,000 including the DVD Home Theater without adding Php 5,000.
Plus I can make it to installment purchases..upto 12months!
But first or before I will buy this model I would like to know your reviews or personal comments as buyer for this model. :o :o
Thanks people and Merry Christmas!!!
Sony Bravia has its own promo too.. On Straigth Card Purchase / Cash, a SOny Bravia 32" LCD TV worth Php 77,000 has a discount promo worth Php 25,000 including the DVD Home Theater and wireless bluetooth headset. But it cannot be arrange in installment purchases. So the payment will be Php 52,000 only straight purchase. ::) ::)
So which is the best buy for this (price deal and LCD quality)?
??? ??? ???
Sights & Sounds and Theater Works can give you a better deal.
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Panasonic TX32LX77 & TX32LX70.
What's the difference?
Any new features added on the lx77?
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i saw a Panasonic 32LE7 vs. Samsung 32" dito sa Anson's Galleria. the Panasonic 32Le7 is like the AOC 32" that was demonstrated to me in Columbia Megamall. i'm not satisfied with the quality. and black lang ang available nya. it's as thick as the AOC
with a Blue Ray Disc, ang ganda ng panasonic 32Le7 pero pag normal DVD or xvid mukang di ganun kaganda
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PC input not sure sa iba png difference :)
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PC input not sure sa iba png difference :)
yup pc lang. ;)
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hi..
i would like to know ur comments or reviews on the Samsung 32R81B - 32" LCD TV.
Since it is now December 2007 and I know the price now is
(STANDARD DEAL) Php 54900 -> 12-18% months 0% interest. Just Add Php 5000 for DVD Home Theater.. hey that's what all the dealers said..
but when I talked to some dealer in new Abenson at LandMark, he said he can give it to me as lower to Php 52,000 including the DVD Home Theater without adding Php 5,000.
Plus I can make it to installment purchases..upto 12months!
But first or before I will buy this model I would like to know your reviews or personal comments as buyer for this model. :o :o
Thanks people and Merry Christmas!!!
Sony Bravia has its own promo too.. On Straigth Card Purchase / Cash, a SOny Bravia 32" LCD TV worth Php 77,000 has a discount promo worth Php 25,000 including the DVD Home Theater and wireless bluetooth headset. But it cannot be arrange in installment purchases. So the payment will be Php 52,000 only straight purchase. ::) ::)
So which is the best buy for this (price deal and LCD quality)?
??? ??? ???
The Samsung 32R81B presents better picture than Sony 32V300. However, unlike Sony, the Samsung can only accept 1080i, not the 1080p. Between Sony and Samsung, I will go for Sony because of 1080p capability.
If you are in the market for other brands, you may wish to look at Toshiba 32C3500 and Hitachi L32A01. The Hitachi has high contrast, 10,000:1. Both Toshiba and Hitachi can accept 1080p.
Try to visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-la to see picture comparison of different brands
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... with a Blue Ray Disc, ang ganda ng panasonic 32Le7 pero pag normal DVD or xvid mukang di ganun kaganda
You should also see how the other panels perform on standard DVD.
OK naman talaga lahat yan sa high definition source. Kaya mas pinag-uusapan ngayon ang pagalingan ng PQ sa standard DVD.
Tumingin ako recently ng mga LCD sa Abenson. Sa Sony and Samsung, HD generator ang gamit; sa Toshiba, HD DVD player; sa Panasonic, standard DVD player. Panasonic lang ang matapang magdemo sa standard DVD :).
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i live in mindanao, samsung has the largest network of service centre, i cant believe ... they even have a service centre where i live(suburbs), i bought a samsung r81 for my dad @47,900 free x20 htib (12mons. 0% int.) (he doesnt like those HUge receiver and speakers(good for me--bawas gastos) i very satisfied with the product and my dad too. My next lcd would be a samsung 46 full-hd for me if budget permits. just wanna share
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The Samsung 32R81B presents better picture than Sony 32V300. However, unlike Sony, the Samsung can only accept 1080i, not the 1080p. Between Sony and Samsung, I will go for Sony because of 1080p capability.
If you are in the market for other brands, you may wish to look at Toshiba 32C3500 and Hitachi L32A01. The Hitachi has high contrast, 10,000:1. Both Toshiba and Hitachi can accept 1080p.
ano po ang kaibahan ng 1080i or 1080p? (xcept sa letters. hehhe)
*seriously*
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ano po ang kaibahan ng 1080i or 1080p? (xcept sa letters. hehhe)
*seriously*
1080 interlace
1080 progressive
more explanation below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_scan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_scan)
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1080 interlace
1080 progressive
more explanation below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_scan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_scan)
Thanks nibblerizer for the link. Good explanation from wikipedia. Progressive scan, especially at 1080p, is what the buyer should look for in his purchase of slim TV. After all the price between 1080i and 1080p is just a few thousand pesos apart.
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Sir Nemesis, pa pm naman ng price mo ng pana tx-32lx70 and Panasonic 42pv70H. I've been following several threads here and that you recommend panasonic vs sony. I'm very interested in those unit kc. thanks very much in advance sir.
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please help me decide between an apple and an orange. i had previously narrowed down my choice to a panasonic 42PV70H. and then i found this Samsung LA40N81BX. the price on the sammy made me think twice. the wife wants to go for the full hd lcd but i'm still biased to the plasma owing to the rave it is getting back at home as well as here (i'm in Singapore).
here's the side-by-side comparison:
panny TH-42PV70H sammy LA40N81BX
hd ready plasma full hd LCD
1024x768 1920x1080
42" 40"
PHP 59821.5 PHP 68371.5 (based on 28.5 Philippine Pesos to 1 Singapore Dollar)
freebies: freebies:
hdmi dvd player samsung 4gb mp3 player
5.7k voucher 5.7k voucher
intended use:
-SD cable tv (most of the time)
-ordinary dvd movies
-hdtv (cable)
-occasional console gaming
viewing distance: 4 meters (bedroom), fututre location, living room: 6 meters
all comments and questions will be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!
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for me, i'd go for panasonic 42PV70H. i don't like the response time of an lcd tv. plus you can maximize the usage of 1080p on 50" and above so i think the panasonic 42PV70H will do just fine. and of course depende rin sa viewing distance mo.. :)
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The value for money decision, for me, points toward choosing the Panasonic TH-42PV70H especially with the sources you listed which don't fully use the 1080p capabilities of the Samsung. I don't think StarHub's HD cable will use 1080p.
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Ako pana pa din ang pinaka maganda sa standard DVD and HD film, wala ng mas black pa kaysa sa panasonic. :o
Yung iba maganda lang yung kaha eh, pero yung laman ma-putla. Being a seller for a long time its easy to spot kung ano ang maganda. ;)
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Make no mistake sir, get the pana. ;)
I'm a seller of both units, what i can say is pana has more advantage than samsung lcd's. 10 is to one. ;)
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Same din po ba yung Picture quality?
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Same din po ba yung Picture quality?
Yes same, ang lamang sa kanilang dalawa is the 32LX700. ito grabe pq nito. ;)
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sir jeff, pa quote naman 32lx700. thanks!
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sir jeff, pa quote naman 32lx700. thanks!
pm sent sir. ;)
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sir nemesis, may 1080p na ba ang panasonic na lcd?
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Any comment about electric consumption? ???