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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: resident_evil on Jan 14, 2017 at 09:45 PM
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A bit of distortion in high volume. Did not notice this until I played music a bit louder than usual then examined speakers when I heard a bit of distortion. It looks like cone is hitting the metal ring while it vibrates causing distortion. Using NAD D3020 to drive. Can this be repaired? Where? Any idea how much? Did not get this from authorized distro. Came from abroad. Thanks.
Left Speaker
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/8BF1CE11-A8BE-4FE8-87A2-2513C8A214F5_zpsnefwksaq.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/8BF1CE11-A8BE-4FE8-87A2-2513C8A214F5_zpsnefwksaq.jpg.html)
Right (http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/4553347E-7333-40F7-8D1B-035BB672AF82_zpsmfziwld6.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4553347E-7333-40F7-8D1B-035BB672AF82_zpsmfziwld6.jpg.html)
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Naka angat ung dome sa gitna nung right speaker, dapat parehas sila nung left speaker Try mo kay Benedict aka Speaker Doctor baka magawan ng paraan.
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Yes bro. Salamat. May contact details ka nya?
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Yes bro. Salamat. May contact details ka nya?
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,33445.0.html
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ty bro marlon
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(http://www.hitekav.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/LS50-UniQ.jpg)
Hope this helps Atty
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Not to all KEF concentric drivers but I've experienced this twice before years ago, one in my car, distorted sound & found that the cone wasnt holding anymore w/ the tweeter part, 2nd also a Center Channel same problem. But the LS50 is an expensive speaker I'm sure KeF distributor here in the Phil will honor warranty issues.
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how many years na ito sir? sana maayos pa..
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Sa abroad nabili bro. Tapos nabili ko sa original owner.
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Nasobrahan ata ako sa tuwa kaya napa lakas masyado. Hehe. Office set up ko kasi tapos inuwi ko. Sa office di pwede masyado maingay. Kaya nung nasa bahay na- ayun.
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Gumagana pa naman actually. Wag lang masyado lakasan because when the cone is pushed too hard it vibrates and hits the metal thing causing distortion because of the vibrating cone hitting metal.
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Nasobrahan ata ako sa tuwa kaya napa lakas masyado. Hehe. Office set up ko kasi tapos inuwi ko. Sa office di pwede masyado maingay. Kaya nung nasa bahay na- ayun.
awts!
Gumagana pa naman actually. Wag lang masyado lakasan because when the cone is pushed too hard it vibrates and hits the metal thing causing distortion because of the vibrating cone hitting metal.
ah! ayos pa naman pala wag lang lakasan.
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If the cone surround is intact, it could be the spider was detached from the top plate. Worst case scenario is there is already a lump in the voice coil that hitting the pole piece or the magnet during extreme cone excursion.
I would strongly suspect it's just a suspension thing (surround foam/rubber or spider) if it is hitting the metal.
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Sorry too quick on the post button.
I suggest to have it looked at already for your amps safety.
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If the cone surround is intact, it could be the spider was detached from the top plate. Worst case scenario is there is already a lump in the voice coil that hitting the pole piece or the magnet during extreme cone excursion.
I would strongly suspect it's just a suspension thing (surround foam/rubber or spider) if it is hitting the metal.
Agree. Most likely nag-separate yun adhesive sa spider kaya lumuwa yung cone.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. Already messaged benedict. Just waiting for response.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. Already messaged benedict. Just waiting for response.
It's best you call him.
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Nad 3020, 20 watts per channel. Might be too little for the KEF LS50 ?
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baka lumuwag yung screw holding the tweeter assembly
(http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/kef2/3.jpg)
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NAD D3020 bro. Madami naman gumagamit with LS50. Conservative din NAD sa wattage.
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Gusto ko na nga buksan at operahan e. Wala lang ako mahanap how to.
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Gusto ko na nga buksan at operahan e. Wala lang ako mahanap how to.
ay kung yakang yaka mo naman sige lang.. :)
sa akin kasi pag ganyan bukas na agad yan chief! gusto ko kasi nakikita muna problem tsaka ko bigay sa expert.. :)
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Hahaha. May tama ka dyan bro.
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Hahaha. May tama ka dyan bro.
haha..oo chief mas gusto ko makita problem bago bigay sa gagawa binubusisi ko talaga. ;D
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Kailangan nang palitan ng powered LS50 para wala nang problem sa amplification. Hehe!
Sent from my ASUS_Z012D using Tapatalk
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Yan ang panalo. LS50 wireless.
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Gusto ko na nga buksan at operahan e. Wala lang ako mahanap how to.
Doable yan. Carefully swipe old credit card around the aesthetic cover plate edges to remove it. Then accessible na screws sa harap.
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Yung sa taas ng rubber surround na may nakalagay na LS50 bro? Or yung sa likod ng speaker cabinet?
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Doable yan. Carefully swipe old credit card around the aesthetic cover plate edges to remove it. Then accessible na screws sa harap.
Mark parang complicated to na DIY ah, hehe :D
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Doable yan. Carefully swipe old credit card around the aesthetic cover plate edges to remove it. Then accessible na screws sa harap.
Mark parang complicated to na DIY ah, hehe :D
Eto mas-simple:
Carefully swipe old credit card at L.I.S. to acquire new LS50. Check the aesthetic cover plate edges to see if properly placed. Take it home & enjoy!!! Hehe!
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Eto mas-simple:
Carefully swipe old credit card at L.I.S. to acquire new LS50. Check the aesthetic cover plate edges to see if properly placed. Take it home & enjoy!!! Hehe!
Ha ha ha... i swear natawa ako sa banat mo Master ha ha ha..
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Eto na. What next? Hehe.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/17E3695A-8D54-41CB-93DC-936F62AA35D0_zpsmjnvskcy.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/17E3695A-8D54-41CB-93DC-936F62AA35D0_zpsmjnvskcy.jpg.html)
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(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/34F5662F-D502-4DA6-97E0-207CE28E08E2_zpsrdphe6oi.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/34F5662F-D502-4DA6-97E0-207CE28E08E2_zpsrdphe6oi.jpg.html)
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Eto na. What next? Hehe.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/17E3695A-8D54-41CB-93DC-936F62AA35D0_zpsmjnvskcy.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/17E3695A-8D54-41CB-93DC-936F62AA35D0_zpsmjnvskcy.jpg.html)
gulp! :o :o :o
ako kinakabahan sa speaker mo chief.. good luck po. :)
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ibalik ko na lang? hehe
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Atty nag DIY kana hehe.. hopefully maremedyuhan ganda tunog nyan ls50
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ibalik ko na lang? hehe
Move the cone and see if the spider follows.
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ibalik ko na lang? hehe
Good Choice! Let the experts do it, sayang the Driver alone looks very Good & Sturdy built. maybe its a lemon during the production line. Atty try nalang sa Warranty service here sa KEF distro, maybe they'll honor it
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Eto na. What next? Hehe.
Move the cone and see if the spider follows.
Also check if the tweeter assembly moves. Remove the plate behind the magnet, AFAIK doon accessible ang tweeter mounting.
There's a lock at the spade connector. In this pic the tab is near or at dead center, triangular part:
(http://www.connector-terminal.com/Clkj_Images/upfile/2012814194816728610.jpg)
Disconnect by pulling the wire WHILE pressing the tab.
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ibalik ko na lang? hehe
Good Choice! Let the experts do it, sayang the Driver alone looks very Good & Sturdy built. maybe its a lemon during the production line. Atty try nalang sa Warranty service here sa KEF distro, maybe they'll honor it
The faint yet devilish "hehe" is a sign na gusto ituloy ni atty ang DIY adventure nya. Go atty go! ;D
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Also check if the tweeter assembly moves. Remove the plate behind the magnet, AFAIK doon accessible ang tweeter mounting.
There's a lock at the spade connector. In this pic the tab is near or at dead center, triangular part:
(http://www.connector-terminal.com/Clkj_Images/upfile/2012814194816728610.jpg)
Disconnect by pulling the wire WHILE pressing the tab.
Nose Bleed, well if Atty has the gutz then go for Master Mark's credit card theory ;D ;D
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Let's do this. For science. But I cant get this guy out. Where is the lock? By the way, spider moves when cone is moved.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/B4E6B2C4-87A5-489A-A940-7DDF4BBD4427_zps8dhx1j0w.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B4E6B2C4-87A5-489A-A940-7DDF4BBD4427_zps8dhx1j0w.jpg.html)
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There.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg.html)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg.html)
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Comment and suggest lang guys ha. Walang sisihan basta may sense yung suggestions. This is for science. Pag nasira lalo, e di sira.
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Spider moves when cone is moved. Faint grating sound can be heard. No visible lumps or damage on voice coil. Tama ba? The voice is coil is the one na parang karton na cylindrical sa gitna ng toilet paper?
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Cringe! :-X
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This is not for the faint hearted ;D
Let's do this. For science. But I cant get this guy out. Where is the lock? By the way, spider moves when cone is moved.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/B4E6B2C4-87A5-489A-A940-7DDF4BBD4427_zps8dhx1j0w.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/B4E6B2C4-87A5-489A-A940-7DDF4BBD4427_zps8dhx1j0w.jpg.html)
There.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg.html)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg.html)
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the tweeter assembly should be fastened at the middle of the main woofer magnet assembly by way of a screw or adhesive. Can you take a good picture of that hole in the middle of the magnet assembly?
In hindsight that woofer magnet looks like its as big as the main driver itself. No wonder that thing can play real big without losing coherence in spite of its diminutive size.
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Ok bro. Will take closer photo tonight. That black cap thing on the right covers the hole which I removed by turning. I did not see a screw in the hole but will check again later.
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I'm not sure if this will help atty, pero mukang parehoa sila ng Tweeter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdNbpeZUQis
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Ty bro. will check it out.
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I think courage got it right. That black thing that you unscrewed is the one that fastens the tweeter assembly in place.
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Tweeter assembly not moving even after removal of that cap thing.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/55136828-BB8E-451F-9BC3-45695001E057_zpspk82vyhm.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/55136828-BB8E-451F-9BC3-45695001E057_zpspk82vyhm.jpg.html)
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Tweeter assembly not moving even after removal of that cap thing.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/55136828-BB8E-451F-9BC3-45695001E057_zpspk82vyhm.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/55136828-BB8E-451F-9BC3-45695001E057_zpspk82vyhm.jpg.html)
Kaya ba sir i move yung nasa loob? I think it's connected directly sa tweeter? Sa video the guy can push out the tweeter
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Foam removed. Nakita ko din video. Ang dali lang na alis ng tweeter assembly after the cap was removed.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/9F285A7D-C9AD-4DFC-825D-D7DBB9B53B44_zpsls6dgmit.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/9F285A7D-C9AD-4DFC-825D-D7DBB9B53B44_zpsls6dgmit.jpg.html)
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Foam removed. Nakita ko din video. Ang dali lang na alis ng tweeter assembly after the cap was removed.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/9F285A7D-C9AD-4DFC-825D-D7DBB9B53B44_zpsls6dgmit.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/9F285A7D-C9AD-4DFC-825D-D7DBB9B53B44_zpsls6dgmit.jpg.html)
As per specs, its a Uni Q driver array. I saw some videos of Kef Uni-Q array just being pushed para humiwalay sa main woofer. Wala bang movement kapag nag push yung loob kung saan naka screw yung takip?
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Ayan. konting lakas ng loob lang. but i cant pull it out. There is resistance. I think its the black wire.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/73011ACE-9C09-408C-9346-76CD5E543AA2_zpspasnjgta.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/73011ACE-9C09-408C-9346-76CD5E543AA2_zpspasnjgta.jpg.html)
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Atty di kaya instead of removing it you should push it back in so that the wave guide is flush and it doesn't hit the cone? Baka dun sa screw lumuwag.
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Atty di kaya instead of removing it you should push it back in so that the wave guide is flush and it doesn't hit the cone? Baka dun sa screw lumuwag.
+1.. base dun sa video, pinigilan nung guy by holding dun sa edges nang tweeter para sumikip and hindi sumama yung tweeter sa ikot nung takip sa ilalim while making it tighter
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Beentryig that bros pero ayaw mag flush e. Will keep trying.
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Beentryig that bros pero ayaw mag flush e. Will keep trying.
Totally na labas mo ba yung tweeter?
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naka soldered ung wires nung tweeter kaya di lalabas yan....
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Di nga lalabas bro. May wire. Yung sa video di pa ata naka solder yung black wire sa terminal kaya lumabas. Gusto ko na nga putulin wire e. Hehe.
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There.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/022E5BEA-629A-4D62-91C1-F90D721D54AD_zpsgixsphgq.jpg.html)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ED915D45-49AF-49FB-9846-5A523B4B8633_zpslydmeksw.jpg.html)
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Kanina atty, naiangat mo yung tweeter right? Nahatak ba yung wire ng konti nung ginawa mo yun?
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Yes bro. Nahahatak.
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Dun sa video that you posted may wire. Yun ata yun. Pero di paka kabit sa terminal.
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Di kaya the problem is with the cone part and not the tweeter assembly. I doubt lumuwag screw ng tweeter assembly to displace it e. Masikip pa sa virgin nung una kong tinanggal. Baka the cone is not returning to its flush position.
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Or worse, voice coil overheat.
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Di kaya the problem is with the cone part and not the tweeter assembly. I doubt lumuwag screw ng tweeter assembly to displace it e. Masikip pa sa virgin nung una kong tinanggal. Baka the cone is not returning to its flush position.
Mukang ganun nga atty. Mukang ok naman ang Tweeter
Look at how the cone of LS50 plays on this video.. Forward the video to 2:12 and you'll see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEB2CD1Xti8
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Good read:
http://sound.whsites.net/articles/speaker-failure.html
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Spider moves when cone is moved. Faint grating sound can be heard. No visible lumps or damage on voice coil. Tama ba? The voice is coil is the one na parang karton na cylindrical sa gitna ng toilet paper?
Di kaya the problem is with the cone part and not the tweeter assembly. I doubt lumuwag screw ng tweeter assembly to displace it e. Masikip pa sa virgin nung una kong tinanggal. Baka the cone is not returning to its flush position.
Woofer nga ang problem nyan, not the tweeter assembly. Malamang part of the winding kumalas at sumasabit na sa front plate kaya hindi na makabalik sa rest position. I just remembered a dead subwoofer whose cone looked sucked to almost full inward excursion, noong kalasin nakabusalsal na ang winding, trapped between front plate and pole piece.
Iparewind na yan.
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Muka nga bro marck. Kaya mo gawin?
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Yun tweeter is suppose to be not moving when playing because para siyang bullet cone so malabo nga sa tweeter.
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Opinion sa Audiokarma nag bottom out. Change driver na daw. Ouch.
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Opinion sa Audiokarma nag bottom out. Change driver na daw. Ouch.
Ouch....
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Looking at the bright side...the LS50 is available in singles directly through KEF internet retailer. No need to buy a pair plus if you do go this route you have a spare tweeter assembly, crossover, speaker box, terminals from your defective unit.
I wonder why the woofer gave up the ghost....it certainly wasnt over driven to the extremes with the amp. Manufacturing defect perhaps?
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Opinion sa Audiokarma nag bottom out. Change driver na daw. Ouch.
ano ibig sabihin ng bottom out sir?
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I think the cylinder holding the voice coil smacked the bottom plate because of too much exertion. Kaya na deform siguro. Over driven malamang. Perhaps the experts can chime in.
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Looking at the bright side...the LS50 is available in singles directly through KEF internet retailer. No need to buy a pair plus if you do go this route you have a spare tweeter assembly, crossover, speaker box, terminals from your defective unit.
I wonder why the woofer gave up the ghost....it certainly wasnt over driven to the extremes with the amp. Manufacturing defect perhaps?
https://www.kefdirect.com/ls50-single-center-speaker.html
Or you can email KEF directly and ask for a replacement driver which may cost around $300.
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pwede rin adhesive failure lang.
Malamang part of the winding kumalas at sumasabit na sa front plate
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https://www.kefdirect.com/ls50-single-center-speaker.html
Or you can email KEF directly and ask for a replacement driver which may cost around $300.
Kakalula!!! ;D
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Yun din. Pwede nag melt adhesive. Gusto mo tingnan mark?
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Ok sana mag order kaso shipping cost pa malupit.
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ito mas mura:
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649325788-kef-ls50-single-speaker-for-center-channel/images/1424137/
that's about US$ 460.
Use Canada Post/USPS to nearest JacPlus office in the US.
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Being part of the design team of the speaker, Anthony Lueterio may be able to help.
He has been inactive at PinoyDvD but no harm in trying to call him for the repair.
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You have his contact details cool?
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Meron ako lbc shippingcart which I use for amazon etc pero mahal pa rin.
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If I may sir, nacompare mo na ba sa working or good na driver yung may sira. Dapat bago binaklas ay compare na muna sa good para alam kung ano dapat ibalik or ayusing sira, baka kasi sa physical na look palang eh makita na ang dapat iadjust or gawin. Yun ay kung ok lang sayo na buksan din yung good speaker. Suggestion lang po, please proceed at your own risk.
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Opinion sa Audiokarma nag bottom out. Change driver na daw. Ouch.
What?! saklap naman nyan chief.
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Yung good speaker bro flush yung cone sa tweeter assembly and no audible distortion. Kahit siguro open ko the good speaker di ko rin makikita the voice coil kasi nasa ilalim sya unless I totally disassemble.
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Try email KEF with pics of the unit, they may be kind enough to send driver replacement ... if they care their products owners... sakali lang....
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Try email KEF with pics of the unit, they may be kind enough to send driver replacement ... if they care their products owners... sakali lang....
They make claim failure is from abuse or that they don't honor warranty outside the country of sale, but worth a try.
If I may sir, nacompare mo na ba sa working or good na driver yung may sira. Dapat bago binaklas ay compare na muna sa good para alam kung ano dapat ibalik or ayusing sira, baka kasi sa physical na look palang eh makita na ang dapat iadjust or gawin. Yun ay kung ok lang sayo na buksan din yung good speaker. Suggestion lang po, please proceed at your own risk.
Sa akin NOT OK to open the good one.
Yun din. Pwede nag melt adhesive. Gusto mo tingnan mark?
Can give it a shot. Kung adhesive failure lang kaya ko restore yan. If it will need rewinding ako na magparewind.
Opinion sa Audiokarma nag bottom out. Change driver na daw. Ouch.
Tamad mag-repair mga kano. O sobrang mahal repair labor kaya sulit sa kanila replace na lang.
Pero kung mali analysis natin order ka na nga ng replacement. :D :D :D
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Sana macompare lang itong pic na to sa working driver
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/34F5662F-D502-4DA6-97E0-207CE28E08E2_zpsrdphe6oi.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/34F5662F-D502-4DA6-97E0-207CE28E08E2_zpsrdphe6oi.jpg.html)
ito lang observe ko I don't know if its actual but worth checking based dyan sa picrure.
1. Yung spider ba naka angat, usually alam ko flat or lubog konti yan.
2. kita na ba yung coil ng mid/woofer
Anyway that's just me and how I will do this if its mine.
Goodluck and sana ma post din yung solution, kaabang abang kasi :)
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There. No choice. Notice that the color of the cone becomes lighter after some time. New one is darker.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/Karl_Castillo/Mobile%20Uploads/36B3AC36-77A8-461F-BCA7-EBCA1EF48C42_zpsthchzrxt.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Karl_Castillo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/36B3AC36-77A8-461F-BCA7-EBCA1EF48C42_zpsthchzrxt.jpg.html)
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There. No choice. Notice that the color of the cone becomes lighter after some time. New one is darker.
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Solved! Ung CJ o ung Rogue mo ang mas bagay dyan sa LS50. Bitin yan sa 3020.
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Sold both na bro. Now using MF M6si. Winner.
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Sold both na bro. Now using MF M6si. Winner.
Wow! Congrats!
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Nice! At least alam ko na na makakakuha pala ng replacement drivers yung LS 50 ko just in case.
@TS
Pa PM kung saan kayo nag source. Thank you.
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Quit na sana ako e. Kaso nasira yung ls50. Hehe.
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By the way, alam nyo ba sino dealer ng Audiolab sa Pinas? Interested in the M Dac.
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buo na ulit?
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How much for the replacement driver atty?
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Yes bros. Ako na din nag install ng new driver.
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Yes bros. Ako na din nag install ng new driver.
wow congrats! galing nyo ah. :)
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Yung Q Acoustics Concept 20 pakinggan nyo. Malupit din. 1/3 lang price compared to the LS50 pero di papa iwan.
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Yung Q Acoustics Concept 20 pakinggan nyo. Malupit din. 1/3 lang price compared to the LS50 pero di papa iwan.
sir nakikinig ka ng rock music using LS50 ? anong amp gamit mo na di bitin
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yes bro. more on rock and classical ako although I listen to all sorts of music. gamit ko now is the Musical Fidelity M6si. busog na busog the ls50. sa NAD D3020 kaya naman wag lang masyado malakas because the amp will clip, which is what happened to me. i suggest you use the most powerful amp that you can afford since it will be senseless to listen to rock music at low levels.
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yes bro. more on rock and classical ako although I listen to all sorts of music. gamit ko now is the Musical Fidelity M6si. busog na busog the ls50. sa NAD D3020 kaya naman wag lang masyado malakas because the amp will clip, which is what happened to me. i suggest you use the most powerful amp that you can afford since it will be senseless to listen to rock music at low levels.
kailangan nga ng malakas na amp. nong vintage amp na 100 watts gamit ko ok naman sya. pero pag mas mababang wattage manipis na
nasubukan mong mag tube sa rock music? anong amp ang kinaya ? mukhang mahal yang m6si, magkano yang ganyan?
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yes bro. more on rock and classical ako although I listen to all sorts of music. gamit ko now is the Musical Fidelity M6si. busog na busog the ls50. sa NAD D3020 kaya naman wag lang masyado malakas because the amp will clip, which is what happened to me. i suggest you use the most powerful amp that you can afford since it will be senseless to listen to rock music at low levels.
Mukhang hindi gumana yung "soft clipping" speaker protection circuit nung D3020.
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oo nga ano. hmmmm
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Will see if I can find older photos of my LS50. Napaisip ako bigla. baka nga naman it was not the NAD that caused it. Shet.
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At di ko lang napansin kasi di ko naman sya nilalakasan sa office.
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Ok guys. Grabe. My mistake and apologies to the NAD D3020. Nahanap ko the photo before I got the NAD. Mukang nung nakuha ko sya hindi na flush the other cone sa waveguide. Hay. My fault. Lesson learned guys, huwag masyado excited. Examine the item very carefully and ask all sorts of questions. I'm sure the seller was in good faith and also did not know of the defect. This is a community after all and we are not here to swindle each other. Apologies to the seller too for not calling it to his attention immediately. Too late now. Bought the item more than a year ago.
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Ok guys. Grabe. My mistake and apologies to the NAD D3020. Nahanap ko the photo before I got the NAD. Mukang nung nakuha ko sya hindi na flush the other cone sa waveguide. Hay. My fault. Lesson learned guys, huwag masyado excited. Examine the item very carefully and ask all sorts of questions. I'm sure the seller was in good faith and also did not know of the defect. This is a community after all and we are not here to swindle each other. Apologies to the seller too for not calling it to his attention immediately. Too late now. Bought the item more than a year ago.
OK lang Atty, cant reverse the clock but the good thing is there's a replacement driver na, Bad side is doble lang yung gastos.
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Ok guys. Grabe. My mistake and apologies to the NAD D3020. Nahanap ko the photo before I got the NAD. Mukang nung nakuha ko sya hindi na flush the other cone sa waveguide. Hay. My fault. Lesson learned guys, huwag masyado excited. Examine the item very carefully and ask all sorts of questions. I'm sure the seller was in good faith and also did not know of the defect. This is a community after all and we are not here to swindle each other. Apologies to the seller too for not calling it to his attention immediately. Too late now. Bought the item more than a year ago.
so yung may mali ay speaker or amp? ???
sorry naguluhan ako eh. :-[
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Speaker.
When Atty bought it, damaged na yun speaker.
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Speaker.
When Atty bought it, damaged na yun speaker.
ayun! naguluhan lang siguro ako sa statement ni Atty..ha ha! Thanks bro. ;D
nadoble nga gastos nya dun..sayang! :-\
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Charge to experience.
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salamat sir sa pag accommodate ng audition kahapon. parang walang nangyari don sa speaker, ganda pa rin !
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Sir Resident_Evil saan po nabili ung stands? ganda :)
Thinking of getting LS50s din but I dont know how it sounds paired to a tube amp (for easy listening, accoustics, jazz, bosa, etc). I heard it once connected to a MF SS amp and I was very impressed :)
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Kasama yung stands nung nabili ko bro. Bring your amp dito sa bahay. Subukan natin.
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Ganda ng stands sir. Glad to know na naayus na speakers mo.
:) thank you sa offer, pwede siguro sir. Hassle lang kasi 50ish lbs sia.
Cheers :)
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Pagawa ko muna vintage tube amp ko. Sabihan kita.
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Pagawa ko muna vintage tube amp ko. Sabihan kita.
I saw a lot of reviews raving about that combo - usually with a 35-50 watt push pull amp..... Probably a little less control when the impedance drops to 3.9 ohms (most likely with awkward phase angles), but the midrange and sweetness would probably be a good trade off hehehe
Anyway, sige boss.... Thanks uli!
Hope to hear from you soon regarding the Tube + LS50 combo.
Cheers :)
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Pagawa ko muna vintage tube amp ko. Sabihan kita.
pwede ba ako sumabit chief? :D
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pwede ba ako sumabit chief? :D
EB na yan! Sama ako. :D
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sana pwede. :)
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oo ba. kayo pa.
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oo ba. kayo pa.
wow! thanks chief. ;)
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Saan yan, baka malapit lang isasama ko na sarili ko kahit walang imbitasyon.
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Medyo malayo sa kabihasnan pero madaming beer. Susana heights muntinlupa.
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wow BEER + LS50 = TopNotch!
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wow BEER + LS50 = TopNotch!
uy ayos to !