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High-Def => Blu-ray Players => Topic started by: barrister on Dec 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM
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I want to upgrade my BD player.
I look at the Blu-ray Players Board and I see very little activity. The Board started in 2007, and it only has 6 pages of topics. Talo pa ng NMT Childboard --- started in 2008, now has 10 pages of topics.
Panasonic BDT-220 player sounds OK, but there's no thread for it, or for any 2012 Panny BD player for that matter.
Is any 2012 Panny BD player even available in the Phils?
Pioneer BDP-150 might be OK. There's a thread for it, but there's very little interest in it. A one-page thread for a 2012 mass-market model, and we're only weeks away from 2013.
I google for professional reviews on the Pio BDP-150 --- nothing.
I search for it on amazon --- it only has one user review!
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS)
Unbelievable.
Laos na ba ang BD players?
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I think madami pa naman gumagamit ng BDPs satin. It's just an unexciting (though not any less significant) device that people don't generally talk about. I know that there are merits in a good BDP, but many people find discussing it as exhilarating as comparing microwave ovens.
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Hmmm...and to think, I'm planning to buy my very frst BD player...and no idea what's the best buy locally...any region-free BD/DVD players around?
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I got mine 2 or 3 years ago. And even without firmware update, it still works with the current BD titles. Definitely it is not 3D but as for me that is okay. The point I am raising is that since non3D BD are generally standard if you have an AVR, then the AVR gets updated the BD player remains the same. While others have HTIB so 1 less standalone BD player for that crowd. My unit a Panasonic BD player and still planning to use it. Happy with it. For short not Laos but just doing as it should be doing and worry about the rest of the gears.
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I used to have 3 BD players in different locations (Cambridge Audio, Pioneer and LG), but it's now down to 1. I don't even use this last one for BDs anymore because all had been replaced by HTPCs. I ended up preferring the flexibility and PQ advantage of HTPCs over the convenience of a standalone device.
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puro old model kasi binebenta dito eh
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puro old model kasi binebenta dito eh
Medyo mataas din yung pricing dito ng players compared sa major markets abroad. For the affordable players okay daw BDP-S190 and BDP-S590 based sa video benches, natatalo lang ng high end players sa noise control/reduction (which many people here don't like anyway) and deinterlacing (for 480i and 1080i sources). SRP lang nga nila dito is like 70-75% higher than the HK SRP.
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I'd have to agree that HTPC's and NMT's are preferred by many because of the flexibility. I guess i'm the old school type that likes the stand alone BD player. Iba para sa akin ang dating ng may collection ka of titles, seeing the rack kind of reminds me how much hard work is put in just to enjoy the hobby.
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yung convenience ng NMT is if you are really into a huge collection and want everything in one place and on the fly. kahit pa BD.ISO yan, iba pa din ang dedicated BD players, wag ka lang magreklamo pag may region codes or firmware upgrades required on your BD player.
Plus side ng NMT, it keeps things simple for us to search our library. Do you miss the covers ng BD mo? or would want the exact BD cover sa NMT, aba eh sa realtek madali lang yan, rename mo yung lahat ng cover mo with the same file as your mkv, ayun, you will see in your thumbnail movie list yung files more are iconed with the BD cover from your favorite IMDB.org or blu-ray.com covers.
Eventually, I went to NMT+ BD combo route, not for savings (they are darn expensive vs. buying the two stand alones) but for the region free switching. I was to plunge with another one this year pero since after testing with 3D bluray playback di pa siya ready, eh tsaka na, i'll let it mature first.
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I'd have to agree that HTPC's and NMT's are preferred by many because of the flexibility. I guess i'm the old school type that likes the stand alone BD player. Iba para sa akin ang dating ng may collection ka of titles, seeing the rack kind of reminds me how much hard work is put in just to enjoy the hobby.
Aside from HTPCs and Media Players, madami din gumagamit ng PS3s as BDPs.
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Aside from HTPCs and Media Players, madami din gumagamit ng PS3s as BDPs.
Oh yeah, i almost forgot about my PS3 hehe, this used to be my BD player until i thought of dedicating it to gaming only.
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Cross-posting:
Thanks for the input sir Stagea.
I called SnS this afternoon:
Anong player ang available? --- Pioneer lang sir, 150 (P8,500) & 3110 (P4,990). 450 wala pa.
Mahina na ang benta ng BD players? --- Mahina na sir, puro media players ang gusto nila.
Merong Panasonic BD player? --- Matagal nang wala.
Walang stock o hindi na talaga nag release ang Panny Phil.? -- Hindi na talaga nag release, matagal na.
P4,990 na lang ang Pio BD player. Nakakaduda ang quality, parang CDR King Special na lang siguro ... :D
Panny Phil. wala nang BD. Panny Phil. ba naman, asa ka pa. :P ... puro wala? ... ang dami namang wala sa Panny Phil... kailan magsasara? :D
Mahina na raw talaga ang BD players. Laos na nga yata... :(
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Di pa naman siguro. Maybe just here in the Philippines since there's no market for BD here. Plus we still have a rampant culture of piracy for most of the Philippines. The PS3 also duplicates the function quite flawlessly so there might not be the need for a dedicated player. However, for heavy BD viewing, a PS3 is not ideal as it stresses the console much more than any game can.
Ang mahal lang talaga ng BD from local distributors, kaya tuloy di viable magbenta ng BDP sa Pinas.
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Di pa naman siguro. Maybe just here in the Philippines since there's no market for BD here. Plus we still have a rampant culture of piracy for most of the Philippines. The PS3 also duplicates the function quite flawlessly so there might not be the need for a dedicated player. However, for heavy BD viewing, a PS3 is not ideal as it stresses the console much more than any game can.
Ang mahal lang talaga ng BD from local distributors, kaya tuloy di viable magbenta ng BDP sa Pinas.
Malakas ang media players dito because it's easy to source downloadable "stuff." In the US, they monitor downloading of those kinds of stuff. Plus dito, hindi umabot sa punto na mura ang mga BD players with local warranty.
In the US, the BD players actually serve as their media players also, primarily as conduits for streaming services. The differentiation is no longer in the BD playback itself but in the number and quality of streaming services added on to the BD player. It works because it's commonplace to have internet bandwidths of 12Mbps or even higher.
Yan naman (streaming) and hindi popular dito because in the first place, our internet infrastructure is still relatively too slow to support high-definition streaming and yet costs more.
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Agree. Just wanted to touch on the merits of the BD scenario but I guess it's not possible without considering the rampant and blatant access and propensity to be a Jack Sparrow. However, something tells me that even in the case that infrastructure is good, most will still go and "stuff" their NMTs and storage rather than stream content.
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Di pa naman siguro. Maybe just here in the Philippines since there's no market for BD here. Plus we still have a rampant culture of piracy for most of the Philippines. The PS3 also duplicates the function quite flawlessly so there might not be the need for a dedicated player. However, for heavy BD viewing, a PS3 is not ideal as it stresses the console much more than any game can.
Ang mahal lang talaga ng BD from local distributors, kaya tuloy di viable magbenta ng BDP sa Pinas.
rampant ang piracy = values reflecting low regard for intellectual property rights, manifested by the Sotto mentality
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I want to upgrade my BD player.
I look at the Blu-ray Players Board and I see very little activity. The Board started in 2007, and it only has 6 pages of topics. Talo pa ng NMT Childboard --- started in 2008, now has 10 pages of topics.
Panasonic BDT-220 player sounds OK, but there's no thread for it, or for any 2012 Panny BD player for that matter.
Is any 2012 Panny BD player even available in the Phils?
Pioneer BDP-150 might be OK. There's a thread for it, but there's very little interest in it. A one-page thread for a 2012 mass-market model, and we're only weeks away from 2013.
I google for professional reviews on the Pio BDP-150 --- nothing.
I search for it on amazon --- it only has one user review!
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS)
Unbelievable.
Laos na ba ang BD players?
Check mo reviews ng Oppo bluray players... ;)
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rampant ang piracy = values reflecting low regard for intellectual property rights, manifested by the Sotto mentality
Pretty funny you brought up sotto here. Lol
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Check mo reviews ng Oppo bluray players... ;)
Oppo is the best of course, pero ayoko ng Oppo sir. Pang cheap lang ako e ... ;)
Do you know where I can get a 220 volt Panny BDT220?
I got mine 2 or 3 years ago. And even without firmware update, it still works with the current BD titles. Definitely it is not 3D but as for me that is okay. The point I am raising is that since non3D BD are generally standard if you have an AVR, then the AVR gets updated the BD player remains the same. While others have HTIB so 1 less standalone BD player for that crowd. My unit a Panasonic BD player and still planning to use it. Happy with it. For short not Laos but just doing as it should be doing and worry about the rest of the gears.
My BD player is Panasonic BD60. No 3D, but I'm not so much into 3D, so Ok lang.
It's a good player, solid build, very good PQ. My only complaint is that its loading speed is slow for this years' standards.
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got mine 3 years ago as a freebie ... used it less than 10x to test and never used it again, same thing with another freebie dvd player ... i prefer my NMT, much convenient to use ... with my 42-inch Panny TV, i cannot really differentiate the quality of a 1080p mkv and original BD movie, and i do not need to stand up and replace the disk when i want to switch to another title when using my NMT
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Me, I still need a BD player.
If it's a movie I havent seen yet, 700MB 720p file lang ok na. If it's an OK movie, 1.5GB 1080p file dapat. If it's a movie I like, 4.5GB to 16GB file.
But if it's a movie I really like, only a real BD will do. May slight improvement pa rin e.
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Di naman siguro sir.
Mas pang masa kase ang presyo ng mga DVD players vs BD players.
At mas convenient naman yuung NMT vs BD players.
Idagdag mo pa yung Cinavia problem ng mga bagong BD players.
Despite of all these, hindi pa rin naman laos.
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Di naman siguro sir.
Mas pang masa kase ang presyo ng mga DVD players vs BD players.
At mas convenient naman yuung NMT vs BD players.
Idagdag mo pa yung Cinavia problem ng mga bagong BD players.
Despite of all these, hindi pa rin naman laos.
Even the NMTs are affected by the Cinavia thing...
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Cinavia is not a problem. it's a solution to rampant piracy of intellectual properties. :D
Di naman laos BDPs. It just hasn't taken off yet here in the Philippines. Madaming kuntento sa DVD players because their eyes have not been opened to the world of HD because 1) they still use CRT Tvs, 2) wala silang pambili ng HD source/materials kaya they just settle for very low quality standard definition materials or substandard/ pseudo HD materials like YIFY rips.
Kung ganyan ang market dito, naturally, wala ngang target market yung BDP sellers kaya walang stocks. Wala din naman bibili, so di na lang din sila magbebenta. hehe
kukonti lang tayo dito sa Pinas na nag-adapt sa Blu ray format. Even a lot of my well-off friends have not yet switched to BDs. Puro DVDs pa din sila and/or downloaded stuff. :/
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Cinavia is not a problem. it's a solution to rampant piracy of intellectual properties. :D
Di naman laos BDPs. It just hasn't taken off yet here in the Philippines. Madaming kuntento sa DVD players because their eyes have not been opened to the world of HD because 1) they still use CRT Tvs, 2) wala silang pambili ng HD source/materials kaya they just settle for very low quality standard definition materials or substandard/ pseudo HD materials like YIFY rips.
Kung ganyan ang market dito, naturally, wala ngang target market yung BDP sellers kaya walang stocks. Wala din naman bibili, so di na lang din sila magbebenta. hehe
kukonti lang tayo dito sa Pinas na nag-adapt sa Blu ray format. Even a lot of my well-off friends have not yet switched to BDs. Puro DVDs pa din sila and/or downloaded stuff. :/
+1
Cinavia should in theory be good for both source and content. BDs are one of the few technologies un-cracked by piracy in its entirety. NMTs never did attract me compared to BDs in terms of quality and hardware reliability. So for films, it's still BD for me. It's just sad that there's still no streaming in the country so for TV series, there's not much choices unless you want to watch a season behind or be hooked to TV schedules. BD technology providers and content providers should play their cards right and not price it out to oblivion. BD price drops in other countries allow for home theater enthusiasts to build a collection in their homes and is definitely a step in the right direction.
If people spend money for quality hardware they can afford, why not spend on the content as well, after all that's what the hardware is for.
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Oppo is the best of course, pero ayoko ng Oppo sir. Pang cheap lang ako e ... ;)
Do you know where I can get a 220 volt Panny BDT220?
My BD player is Panasonic BD60. No 3D, but I'm not so much into 3D, so Ok lang.
It's a good player, solid build, very good PQ. My only complaint is that its loading speed is slow for this years' standards.
Atty in case you have a change of heart with a 220v meron pala nag bebenta ng 110 sa mp.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173994.0/topicseen.html
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Di naman laos. Mahal lang ang BD. ;D
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Atty in case you have a change of heart with a 220v meron pala nag bebenta ng 110 sa mp.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173994.0/topicseen.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173994.0/topicseen.html)
Ok ang presyo!
Kaya lang sinumpa ko na yang mga 110.
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Comment ko lang sa sinabi ni barrister:
Panny Phil. wala nang BD. Panny Phil. ba naman, asa ka pa. ... puro wala? ... ang dami namang wala sa Panny Phil... kailan magsasara?
Panasonic Philippines will not close down. While their Viera is not doing well, including their other video products, Panasonic remains very, very strong in the "white lines". "White lines" mean air conditioning, refrigeration and washing machines. But when it comes to video, Panasonic is cutting back due to severe financial losses of its video-related products in Japan.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-31/panasonic-predicts-full-year-loss-on-tvs-restructuring-cost.html
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Ok ang presyo!
Kaya lang sinumpa ko na yang mga 110.
Si boss tonyt may alam ata on how to convert. 2500 yung nabasa ko sa isang thread...worth it kaya?
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If people spend money for quality hardware they can afford, why not spend on the content as well, after all that's what the hardware is for.
+1, I still prefer bds and I'm saving up for one of those great oppo players. I always try to download mkvs that's over 4 gig to try to get the best quality but IMo sa sound quality nothing beats the orig bd.
I don't think Laos ang bd. Yesterday I was in sm appliance makati and saw this lady bought a 32 inch led together with a Lg bluray player haha.
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Ok ang presyo!
Kaya lang sinumpa ko na yang mga 110.
Bakit naman sir?
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Bakit naman sir?
Lagi na lang nagkakamali ng saksak sa 220. Kahit mag-ingat ka, one of these days it will happen, kung hindi ikaw ang magkamali, yung ibang tao sa bahay ang magkakamali.
Kuwento nga ng barkada, sa office daw nila may 110 na printer, may malaking label pa sa plug ng printer, nakalagay "110 volts only," naka multiple-layer packaging tape pa sa transformer para permanent na ang connection at siguradong hindi matatanggal. Guess what, may engot pa rin na nagsaksak sa 220, ayun, sunog... :D
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there a few factors that affect why blu ray hasnt aken off here.
because its so damn expensive. no one on the philippines is willing to pay for 900 for a standard blu ray. People might buy if it were sold for 500 but that is already beyond a lot of people comfort zone. I think a lot more people will buy if it were sold at 300-200.
what advantage HD give is moot because a lot of pinoys are still stuck with SD with CRTs.
another is the internet. its so convenient to torrent free stuff.
but i still like my BDs. theres nothing like holding a solid disk with the smell of plastic. beats a boring computer monitor any day.
I'm glad that players have also become cheaper. A pioneer BDP can run around 4999 even less. Which the price of a high end DVD player.
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Get BD's to be priced under P600, bring these to the malls and you will see. :)
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Wag muna sana ma lalaos... Ngayon lang ako nagka BD Player bigay pa ng Dad ko... Problem ko wala akong Disk ha ha ha.... Back to NMT na ulit ha ha ha
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Lagi na lang nagkakamali ng saksak sa 220. Kahit mag-ingat ka, one of these days it will happen, kung hindi ikaw ang magkamali, yung ibang tao sa bahay ang magkakamali.
Kuwento nga ng barkada, sa office daw nila may 110 na printer, may malaking label pa sa plug ng printer, nakalagay "110 volts only," naka multiple-layer packaging tape pa sa transformer para permanent na ang connection at siguradong hindi matatanggal. Guess what, may engot pa rin na nagsaksak sa 220, ayun, sunog... :D
Ayun lang. Mas mapapamahal ka pa sa pagpaparepair pag nasunog... Doble ingat tlga..
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Ayun lang. Mas mapapamahal ka pa sa pagpaparepair pag nasunog... Doble ingat tlga..
Kaya ako yung mga 110 ko nakalagay sa lugar na di basta basta magagalaw.. Kahit ako mahihirapan bunutin... Nakasaksak na lang sa power strip na may on and off para yun na lang papatayin ko if in case i really need to turn it off. So far walang incident ako na nagkakamali ng saksak kasi walang makaabot nung plug...
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Pasuggest naman what BD player to get na at least pwede Region -free (or Region 1 at least) DVD playing capability and possible kaya pati BD region-free na rin?
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I am not sure if this is region free
http://www.sony.com.ph/productcategory/hv-bluray-disc-player
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Pasuggest naman what BD player to get na at least pwede Region -free (or Region 1 at least) DVD playing capability and possible kaya pati BD region-free na rin?
oppo blu ray player kaso mahal
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How expensive kaya? Otherwise, anong oks na player kahit Region A BRay basta region-free DVD capability...
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How expensive kaya? Otherwise, anong oks na player kahit Region A BRay basta region-free DVD capability...
$500 + tax + shipping
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egad!
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I want to upgrade my BD player.
I look at the Blu-ray Players Board and I see very little activity. The Board started in 2007, and it only has 6 pages of topics. Talo pa ng NMT Childboard --- started in 2008, now has 10 pages of topics.
Panasonic BDT-220 player sounds OK, but there's no thread for it, or for any 2012 Panny BD player for that matter.
Is any 2012 Panny BD player even available in the Phils?
Pioneer BDP-150 might be OK. There's a thread for it, but there's very little interest in it. A one-page thread for a 2012 mass-market model, and we're only weeks away from 2013.
I google for professional reviews on the Pio BDP-150 --- nothing.
I search for it on amazon --- it only has one user review!
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS (http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-BDP-150-Network-Enabled-Blu-ray/dp/B0083C8AQS)
Unbelievable.
Laos na ba ang BD players?
BD is not "laos" but just slow in market growth. It only has around 26% of the home video market 5 years from launch and is expected to overtake DVD sales in another 4 years with its linear growth. On the other hand. DVD overtook VHS in just 6 years from launch.
You may want to visit this site:
http://www.highdefforum.com/high-definition-media/133194-blu-ray-market-share-showing-linear-growth.html (http://www.highdefforum.com/high-definition-media/133194-blu-ray-market-share-showing-linear-growth.html)
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oppo blu ray player kaso mahal
Bring one "IN" lip ::)
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Bring one "IN" lip ::)
too expensive, 5 na panasonic bdt220 katumbas nun lol :o
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too expensive, 5 na panasonic bdt220 katumbas nun lol :o
Someone will buy it for sure ;D
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too expensive, 5 na panasonic bdt220 katumbas nun lol :o
Auto volt naman. ;)
Why aren't the gray market sellers importing Panny TVs and BD players from Singapore? Ang lapit lang naman sa atin ng Singapore.
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kelangan pa pala ng "kit" para maging region free yung oppo bd player
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Auto volt naman. ;)
Why aren't the gray market sellers importing Panny TVs and BD players from Singapore? Ang lapit lang naman sa atin ng Singapore.
Baka maliit na ang profit. Plus, pwede nang mag-order sa mga sellers natin like Anya etc.
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... pwede nang mag-order sa mga sellers natin like Anya etc.
US version 120 volts & region locked DVD/BD yata yon sir. OK naman for most people, and his price is good.
Pag Singapore, auto volt and DVD region free, but BD region locked.
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Sales Revenue, week ending Dec. 1, 2012:
Blu-ray: $65M (30%)
DVD: $153M (70%)
(http://www.homemediamagazine.com/files/homemediamagazine/nodes/2012/29074/Webresearch-121712.jpg)
Ouch...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112 (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112)
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Sales Revenue, week ending Dec. 1, 2012:
Blu-ray: $65M (30%)
DVD: $153M (70%)
(http://www.homemediamagazine.com/files/homemediamagazine/nodes/2012/29074/Webresearch-121712.jpg)
Ouch...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112 (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112)
Does this mean BD's are becoming more mainstream/affordable na? Marami pa kasi akong kilala na dvd parin ang gusto dahil mas marami daw avail na title and mas mura ng malayo.
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Someone will buy it for sure ;D
I did.. ;)
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Sales Revenue, week ending Dec. 1, 2012:
Blu-ray: $65M (30%)
DVD: $153M (70%)
(http://www.homemediamagazine.com/files/homemediamagazine/nodes/2012/29074/Webresearch-121712.jpg)
Ouch...
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112 (http://www.homemediamagazine.com/market-analysis/sales-report-week-ended-12112)
Blu ray sales actually went up! wooowiie. Death to DVDs please. haha
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Blu ray sales actually went up! wooowiie. Death to DVDs please. haha
Dunno if this statistics included BDs sold with DVDs with it. Most titles being sold are 2-disc BD/DVD sets..
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Dunno if this statistics included BDs sold with DVDs with it. Most titles being sold are 2-disc BD/DVD sets..
IMO, that should count towards BDs alone because the DVDs are like the bonus disc you get for purchasing the BD. hehe
I actually wish BDs did not come with DVDs anymore if it meant more affordable prices. I don't even use the DVDs and just give them away to my friends.
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Blu ray sales actually went up! wooowiie. Death to DVDs please. haha
BD sales have always been increasing ---
In 2008 - The HD DVD vs Blu-ray format war ended. In 2009 - BD sales increase by 83%. In 2010 - BD sales increase by 64%. In 2011 - BD sales increase by 35%. In 2012 - BD sales increase by 13%.
Sa laki ng mga increase, akala ko naka-overtake na sa DVD. Ang layo pa pala.
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2008 Prediction:
Disney Says Blu-ray Technology Will Overtake DVDs in Two Years
By Chiara Remondini - October 7, 2008 11:56 EDT
Oct. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Walt Disney Co., the second-largest U.S. media company, forecast sales of high-definition Blu-ray discs in the U.S. will overtake DVDs within two years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFpgM3IsfqKc (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aFpgM3IsfqKc)
In 2010 - DVD sales were still way ahead of BD sales.
2011 Prediction:
Blu-ray sales to overtake DVD... next year
Packaged media on last legs?
By Hard Reg
9th June 2011 09:38 GMT
Blu-ray Disc sales will finally surpass those of DVDs next year.
So says market watcher Futuresource. Its numbers are based on revenues. Next year, BD will account for 41 per cent of home entertainment spending on content, DVD for 26 per cent.
http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/09/blu_ray_sales_dvd/ (http://www.reghardware.com/2011/06/09/blu_ray_sales_dvd/)
In 2012 - Wrong again. Not even close. Sales are still 30%-70% in favor of DVD.
Any more forecasts? Ayaw na yata nilang mag forecast. Nadala na siguro... :D
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Kaya ako yung mga 110 ko nakalagay sa lugar na di basta basta magagalaw.. Kahit ako mahihirapan bunutin... Nakasaksak na lang sa power strip na may on and off para yun na lang papatayin ko if in case i really need to turn it off. So far walang incident ako na nagkakamali ng saksak kasi walang makaabot nung plug...
Buti nalang ung gears ko ako lang gumagalaw so yung 110v na gears ko walang pag kakamali sa pag saksak. ^-^
$500 + tax + shipping
Region free ba talaga yung oppo parang hindi.
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Pasuggest naman what BD player to get na at least pwede Region -free (or Region 1 at least) DVD playing capability and possible kaya pati BD region-free na rin?
Imo the dvd region free for these blu-ray players is a non-issue. Dvd players are so cheap nowadays and they are region free. Just have dvd player for dvd and one for blu-ray. If you will sell your dvd player and buy these blu-ray players then I think its an issue. There are 3 in 1 hdmi switchers now (sold by anya) that is so cheap.
I think the region free for blu-rays is more of an issue. But how many films in region b do you/we want anyway? Most are already available in region A.
To me these are all small issues. Imo, bd players are worth it if you want the best in picture and sound. Of course, the discs are kinda expensive. Realistically, I mean we spend a fortune (whether it s a starter gear or hi-end gears, esp. 40 inches hdtv and above for blu-ray benefit) for our gears. It also deserves the best, which is blu-ray hehe.
For starters, just be selective with your purchases. I usually buy during black friday week in amazon. I think thats what the majority does now. They download, watch it sa nmt, then purchase kung maganda.
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Imo the dvd region free for these blu-ray players is a non-issue. Dvd players are so cheap nowadays and they are region free. Just have dvd player for dvd and one for blu-ray. If you will sell your dvd player and buy these blu-ray players then I think its an issue. There are 3 in 1 hdmi switchers now (sold by anya) that is so cheap.
I think the region free for blu-rays is more of an issue. But how many films in region b do you/we want anyway? Most are already available in region A.
To me these are all small issues. Imo, bd players are worth it if you want the best in picture and sound. Of course, the discs are kinda expensive. Realistically, I mean we spend a fortune (whether it s a starter gear or hi-end gears, esp. 40 inches hdtv and above) for our gears. It also deserves the best, which is blu-ray hehe.
For starters, just be selective with your purchases. I usually buy during black friday week in amazon. I think thats what the majority does now. They download, watch it sa nmt, then purchase kung maganda.
+1 get a separate dvd player at doon mo iplay lahat ng dvd mo para tumagal din ang lens ng bd player ^-^
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Thanks Moks and Anya for the feedback! :)
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Cinavia is not a problem. it's a solution to rampant piracy of intellectual properties. :D
Di naman laos BDPs. It just hasn't taken off yet here in the Philippines. Madaming kuntento sa DVD players because their eyes have not been opened to the world of HD because 1) they still use CRT Tvs, 2) wala silang pambili ng HD source/materials kaya they just settle for very low quality standard definition materials or substandard/ pseudo HD materials like YIFY rips.
Kung ganyan ang market dito, naturally, wala ngang target market yung BDP sellers kaya walang stocks. Wala din naman bibili, so di na lang din sila magbebenta. hehe
kukonti lang tayo dito sa Pinas na nag-adapt sa Blu ray format. Even a lot of my well-off friends have not yet switched to BDs. Puro DVDs pa din sila and/or downloaded stuff. :/
Kaya ko nasabing problema ang Cinavia eh nawawalan ng silbi ang mga may-ari ng original BD titles na mag back-up ng titles nila. Imagine na gumawa ka ng back-up copy mo pero hindi gagana ng matino dahil sa Cinavia eh parang sablay ata yun.
Para hindi OT.
Dalawang previous officemate ko ang nagswitch sa BD. So mukhang hindi pa laos.
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Kaya ko nasabing problema ang Cinavia eh nawawalan ng silbi ang mga may-ari ng original BD titles na mag back-up ng titles nila. Imagine na gumawa ka ng back-up copy mo pero hindi gagana ng matino dahil sa Cinavia eh parang sablay ata yun.
Unang kina-asaran ko sa BD, yung Java-enabled discs. Bagal mag load, tapos pag nag-stop ka, walang memory for resume function, pag play mo uli, balik na naman sa umpisa. May discs pa na may forced FBI warning and forced trailers; may isang disc ako, with forced anti-smoking promo pa. Lahat yon non-skippable, kailangan mong hintayin matapos.
Ngayon may Cinavia pa. Nagpapakamatay na yata ang BD.
Para hindi OT.
Dalawang previous officemate ko ang nagswitch sa BD. So mukhang hindi pa laos.
Laos na. Huli lang sa balita ang officemates mo ... ^-^
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Laos na ang BDPs? Naaahhh... not in the Philippines anyway. Mejo dumadami na rin ang nagmumulat ang mata sa HD... and knowing the pinoys' trait to " keep up with the jones' "
Lalo na ngayon na nauuso na ang P____d BD. --> pero pangit talaga kung ito ang dahilan.
But if you think about it, around when did most pinoys start making the switch to DVD from VHS/VCD? ;)
I feel that very soon, we'll start seeing 'Masa' BDPs like Orange, Promac, Pensonic etc. CDR king has had that ball rolling for several months now.
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+1 get a separate dvd player at doon mo iplay lahat ng dvd mo para tumagal din ang lens ng bd player ^-^
I find pq for dvd playback on my BD players really bad that is why I still play my DVDs on my dvd player..
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Laos na ang BDPs? Naaahhh... not in the Philippines anyway. Mejo dumadami na rin ang nagmumulat ang mata sa HD... and knowing the pinoys' trait to " keep up with the jones' "
Yung mga kilala ko na nag-uumpisa pa lang sa HD, download ang gusto, hindi optical disc.
Niloloko nga nila yung mga may maraming DVD. "Pre, kawawa ka naman, baka kailangan mo ng tulong pag maglilinis ka ng alikabok at amag ng sangkatutak na DVD mo... ^-^ "
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Walang pumapansin ng BD dito,...
Slow death perhaps,...
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Laos na. Huli lang sa balita ang officemates mo ... ^-^
Natawa ako dito ... sa akin naman, feeling ko hindi naman sumikat kaya di nalaos ... ito lang yung bagong equipment ko na HT na ginamit a few months after ma-install ko just to test a few discs, then hindi ko na ginamit ulit, sa totoo lang isang movie lang natapos kong panoorin ... for me NMT is the way to go
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Mas maraming tao ang gumagamit ng streaming dito sa US,...
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Hindi pa laos yan. Dami daming BD players at discs sa Amazon eh...
I still prefer bluray picture quality against bluray iso lalo na ngayon Im experiencing Oppo bluray player... ;)
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Hindi pa laos yan. Dami daming BD players at discs sa Amazon eh...
I still prefer bluray picture quality against bluray iso lalo na ngayon Im experiencing Oppo bluray player... ;)
more than a year ago, we tested the movie Avatar on sir Mark's (streetsmart) HT system using 3 media - original BD, pira**d BD, and 1080p mkv (17GB file, using my TVIX NMT) ... i'm not an expert like the other people in the room, so I basically just listened to their observations, and these were as follows - no difference on the orig BD and pira**d BD, almost no difference on picture quality with the mkv movie but audio is better on the BD media ... based on their observations, which i considered expert observation, there's very little difference on the quality (only the audio they said had a slight difference)
then we tested a full BD rip (Sony BD demo) that has TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-MA tracks; and it so happened that sir Mark has a BD of one of the Jazz artist on the sampler, hence we compared it ... their observation was that there's no difference on the quality
on my own observation, even on the Avatar mkv vs the original BD, i cannot discern the difference even on the audio - probably because i'm not an audiophile, but the point is that if there's a distinct difference, that large a screen and with that high-end audio equipment, even those who are not expert like myself would be able to observe the difference ... hence i would say that with my smaller tv screen and low-end setup, i'd choose a good quality 1080p or BD ISO anytime over a BD/BD player
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Sobrang nag slow down ako sa pagbili ng BDs, this year less than 5 lang siguro nabili ko, OK naman ang digital downloads kaso may mga movies na gusto kong mapanood ang mga special features, deleted scenes etc..
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I guess some people like me still prefer the physical media even if there is no discernible difference in pq and sq between the original bd and pirated or ripped bd.
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There is nothing like having a real collection.
My two cents.
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There is nothing like having a real collection.
My two cents.
ako naman, since this year lang nag mulat mata ko sa tera sized hdds and nmts,
i like a little bit of everything. ;)
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Mas maraming tao ang gumagamit ng streaming dito sa US,...
I agree. It is a huge blow to physical media. The quality at this point isn't as good (low bitrate video and limited selection), but it's certainly good enough for most people. It's just so convenient and cheap. Image quality would likely improve over time, due to advancements in the data infrastructure and compression.
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i dont think na laos na...
sa mga hindi mafford siguro laos na...
pero for those who can afforf orig bd e....hindi yan malalaos....
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i dont think na laos na...
sa mga hindi mafford siguro laos na...
pero for those who can afforf orig bd e....hindi yan malalaos....
Are you talking about Louie again? he he he he....
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Are you talking about Louie again? he he he he....
Oy nananahimik na nga ako tapos sa lahat ng thread ako tinitira mo!!! >:(
Gusto mo bang magangbang?!? ;D >:D
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Oy nananahimik na nga ako tapos sa lahat ng thread ako tinitira mo!!! >:(
Gusto mo bang magangbang?!? ;D >:D
YES YES YES PLEASE... I LIKE.... hi hi hi
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feeling ko parang na lalaos na nga hehehe
i got my bd player last October lang and ngayon nagsawa na yatang mag play ng BD kaya ang silbi nalang nya sakin is mutimedia player nalang sayang naman yung mga naipon kong BD and yung mga nakareserve sakin na up to now di ko parin makuhakuha gawa ng na ganitong problem ng unit ko
and parang nawawala na rin ang tiwala ko sa mga branded eh
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my 2 cents on the topic...
1. There will always be people who will love to have a tangible, physical collection of BDs for their respective reasons.
2. For people who are prefering NMTs / Media players to Blu rays for their high def fix, maaring dahan dahang malos ang bdp... At best, very selected na lang ang original titles na bibilihin nila.
3. Since mejo talamak na rin ngayon ang mga -alam mo na- na BDs at pamura na ng pamura ang mga BD players, and take note - di pa pumapasok ang mga generic brands na BDPs nyan ha... i think that the local demand for BDPs will rise in the near future.
Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection" ;D ;D ;D
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my 2 cents on the topic...
1. There will always be people who will love to have a tangible, physical collection of BDs for their respective reasons.
2. For people who are prefering NMTs / Media players to Blu rays for their high def fix, maaring dahan dahang malos ang bdp... At best, very selected na lang ang original titles na bibilihin nila.
3. Since mejo talamak na rin ngayon ang mga -alam mo na- na BDs at pamura na ng pamura ang mga BD players, and take note - di pa pumapasok ang mga generic brands na BDPs nyan ha... i think that the local demand for BDPs will rise in the near future.
Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection" ;D ;D ;D
I agree, clamp down on piracy and NMT's and HTPC's are going to slow down. I have no basis but I think I have a good chance of winning a bet that most of the downloaded movies contained in those hard drives came from non pay sites.
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Soon, you'll be seeing and hearing every Tom, Dick and Harry bragging about their "Bluray Collection" ;D ;D ;D
I don't think so. Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
BD collection? They're not interested. They hate discs. They already have so many CDs and DVDs that they don't want to make additional shelf space for even more discs.
Their recent music --- no discs, just digital format on their iPods. After they got used to digital music format, they didn't want any more movies on discs either.
Ever seen how they react when they find out that there are very few BDs that can be easily resumed where they were last stopped? Utter bewilderment ... :o
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If streaming was as accessible here like it is in the united states, then yes that may kill the BD industry in the Phil.
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I don't think so. Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
I think that's because at the time, the not-so-legit bds has not seen its advent.
When you see these stall owners starting to sell Generic brand BDPs at P3500 or less along with their pirated bds, then youll see what im talking about. That's exactly what happened with VCDS and DVDs.
Some people may be tamad to download, or may not have access to downoading videos all in all. I do agree with you that folks these days get both their video and audio entertainment in digital format (esp. music) but I still think that there will be a huge market who would want to own actual physical media - be it legit or otherwise. It's simply another avenue consumers will be taking.
Please understand that my point if view is based on a very local perspective. How this story plays in other parts of the world remains to be seen.
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I don't think so. Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
BD collection? They're not interested. They hate discs. They already have so many CDs and DVDs that they don't want to make additional shelf space for even more discs.
Their recent music --- no discs, just digital format on their iPods. After they got used to digital music format, they didn't want any more movies on discs either.
Ever seen how they react when they find out that there are very few BDs that can be easily resumed where they were last stopped? Utter bewilderment ... :o
totally agree with you sir
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i think the reason why bd players didnt took off, first because of the high price tag of sofwares. not all people who want to enjoy watching hd movies cant afford to buy ,everynow and then, bd titles. another reason is the region coding.( i hate this thing). but on a perfect world, in which there is no piracy and we buy every downloads that we do, then, i think having a physical copy is the perfect route. but in music, i still believe that a physical copy(cd or lp) is sonically superior than its digital counterpart.....unless you have an impaired hearing sense :)
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but in music, i still believe that a physical copy(cd or lp) is sonically superior than its digital counterpart.....unless you have an impaired hearing sense :)
I disagree. A low jitter playback system can be bought/built that feeds off high quality media that's either locally stored or streamed.
For example, the Bryston BDP-1 runs its internal I2S signalling with jitter levels lower than any CD transport/player that I know of. The transport of this player is so good that using an external DAC (even a very high end one) is likely to hurt it because of interface jitter.
CD rips are generally flawed by the transfer process. High quality media from good providers like Lindberg Lyd can make high end music streamers/players shine.
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I disagree. A low jitter playback system can be bought/built that feeds off high quality media that's either locally stored or streamed.
For example, the Bryston BDP-1 runs its internal I2S signalling with jitter levels lower than any CD transport/player that I know of. The transport of this player is so good that using an external DAC (even a very high end one) is likely to hurt it because of interface jitter.
CD rips are generally flawed by the transfer process. High quality media from good providers like Lindberg Lyd can make high end music streamers/players shine.
i will not question your knowlege regarding digital downloads master ivan, for you know digital world more compare to my kindergarden knowledge of such. :) but an hd music download cost more than a cd album. then its bd vs nmt again and the economics of it. cd myt be an inferior medium than high def downloads but for lp? it depends on which side of fence are u in. :)
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Sa Japan majority of people dont even know what VCD and NMT are kaya OK naman ang market ng BD, although not as big as DVD was. And they need Japanese subs sa non Japanese movies, and since released na ng matagal ang Hollywood and Europe before lalabas ang proper Japanese version, downloading of those kinds of contents are not as bad as music. Pero malakas ang political clout ng music industry kaya na pass agad yung anti piracy bill na covers all types of downloadable contents.
Anyway buhay na buhay pa rin ang BD sa Japan and unknown pa rin ang NMT.
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As for me it's better to have both world digital and disc.
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Anyway buhay na buhay pa rin ang BD sa Japan and unknown pa rin ang NMT.
because Japan is a principle-based country much like other european countries, downloaded content covered by intellectual property rights for them is a no-no and blu-rays are legit thus the preference for buying blu-ray
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because Japan is a principle-based country much like other european countries, downloaded content covered by intellectual property rights for them is a no-no and blu-rays are legit thus the preference for buying blu-ray
Aside from itunes, is there another site that allows HD download? Obviously i dont download much hence the question...
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here in the Philippines? there's none that I know of
we have to beef up our IT infrastrucutre so paid video streaming can be a viable option
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on my own observation, even on the Avatar mkv vs the original BD, i cannot discern the difference even on the audio - probably because i'm not an audiophile, but the point is that if there's a distinct difference, that large a screen and with that high-end audio equipment, even those who are not expert like myself would be able to observe the difference ... hence i would say that with my smaller tv screen and low-end setup, i'd choose a good quality 1080p or BD ISO anytime over a BD/BD player
same observation on the same movie. cannot tell the difference. that's why i never bothered to buy bd's after that. and to think some blockbusters get released numerous times with extra extras that make you spend more, like the avatar extended. waste of money if you only have some to spend.
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because Japan is a principle-based country much like other european countries, downloaded content covered by intellectual property rights for them is a no-no and blu-rays are legit thus the preference for buying blu-ray
Not entirely true. In the UK, illegal downloads flourish.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/29/british-economy-free-downloads-cost
To quote the first part of the article:
At least 7 million people in Britain use illegal downloads, costing the economy billions of pounds and thousands of jobs, according to a report.
Shared content on one network was worth about £12bn a year according to the research commissioned by the Strategic Advisory Board for Intellectual Property.
The peer-to-peer network had 1.3 million users sharing files at midday on a weekday. If each of them downloaded only one file a day this would amount to 4.73bn items being consumed free each year.
The ability to download or share content is getting easier with faster technologies and greater storage space.
The new 50 megabytes-per-second broadband access can deliver 200 MP3 music files in five minutes, a DVD of Star Wars in three minutes and the complete digitalised works of Charles Dickens in less than 10 minutes
That was in 2009. Just a note, I highlighted the 50 mbps broadband access enjoyed by UK residents. Sigh :'(
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same observation on the same movie. cannot tell the difference. that's why i never bothered to buy bd's after that. and to think some blockbusters get released numerous times with extra extras that make you spend more, like the avatar extended. waste of money if you only have some to spend.
Same here. I am sure there are differences if you nitpick on each frame. But that's not how I watch a movie at home. Nevertheless, whatever differences there are do not justify the gap between FREE and P1,400 each time.
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but it also matters on the values of the individual if he really thinks he's getting something for free or outright stealing it...
if one can't afford something why should he be given the privilege to enjoy it if he doesn't pay for it
we rant and rant about squatters and our friendly neighbor electricity/cable pilferers who tap into mainlines and the same principle i think applies here...otherwise it's a double standard
citing the case of widespread illegal downloads just goes to show that the property owners aka film studios and music moguls should really think of a business model that would adapt to the preference of the customers
on the other hand the public should be proactive in the sense that we clamor for affordable content to support the businesses and not resort to illegal downloads
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Not entirely true. In the UK, illegal downloads flourish.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/may/29/british-economy-free-downloads-cost
To quote the first part of the article:
At least 7 million people in Britain use illegal downloads, costing the economy billions of pounds and thousands of jobs, according to a report.
Shared content on one network was worth about £12bn a year according to the research commissioned by the Strategic Advisory Board for Intellectual Property.
The peer-to-peer network had 1.3 million users sharing files at midday on a weekday. If each of them downloaded only one file a day this would amount to 4.73bn items being consumed free each year.
The ability to download or share content is getting easier with faster technologies and greater storage space.
The new 50 megabytes-per-second broadband access can deliver 200 MP3 music files in five minutes, a DVD of Star Wars in three minutes and the complete digitalised works of Charles Dickens in less than 10 minutes
That was in 2009. Just a note, I highlighted the 50 mbps broadband access enjoyed by UK residents. Sigh :'(
Kahit naman yata anong bansa meron nag ilegal downloads. Private trackers or direct download can't be track easily kaya madami pa din nag DDL lalo na madami ang nag proprovide and mas mababa gastos. Even american's meron ilegal downloader.
Di na ata mawawala ang ilegal downloads.
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^agree but we can minimize it
it's up to us here to advocate for either choice --- go free illegal downloads or scrimp and save to afford legal content
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I don't think so. Many Toms, Dicks and Harrys I know went from DVDs to downloads, completely bypassing the BD route.
BD collection? They're not interested. They hate discs. They already have so many CDs and DVDs that they don't want to make additional shelf space for even more discs.
Their recent music --- no discs, just digital format on their iPods. After they got used to digital music format, they didn't want any more movies on discs either.
Ever seen how they react when they find out that there are very few BDs that can be easily resumed where they were last stopped? Utter bewilderment ... :o
How true, based on my own experience and which I learned to do when I was with Accenture. Almost all their IT guys were downloading like crazy and holding garage sales for their old CDs and DVDs. That was in 2008.
BD came at a bad time. The joys of downloading, watching a movie with just a couple of mouse clicks, no more physical collection that clutter my room and collect dust over time, and no more budgeting for discs at Astrovision (are they still around?) will not make me go back to collecting discs.
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Kung susuportahan ang piracy hindi lang bd ang malalaos.
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but it also matters on the values of the individual if he really thinks he's getting something for free or outright stealing it...
if one can't afford something why should he be given the privilege to enjoy it if he doesn't pay for it
we rant and rant about squatters and our friendly neighbor electricity/cable pilferers who tap into mainlines and the same principle i think applies here...otherwise it's a double standard
citing the case of widespread illegal downloads just goes to show that the property owners aka film studios and music moguls should really think of a business model that would adapt to the preference of the customers
on the other hand the public should be proactive in the sense that we clamor for affordable content to support the businesses and not resort to illegal downloads
Ah, the legal construct of stealing. It gets various definitions.
In Canada, for instance, downloading copyrighted content from peer-to-peer networks is legal, but uploading it is not.
For me, the act of stealing is when you break the protection code in a disc (whether BD or CD or DVD) and copy its content. That would be like breaking and entering, and looting the house.
But the alleged thief, instead of making money out of what he ripped, uploads it online pr makes it available in a peer-to-peer network for FREE. Canadian laws punishes Robin Hoods, alright. But it ends there.
As a consumer online, I just download whatever I like that is FREE. I think there's a big difference between downloading what is free, and breaking the disk protection code to rip the content. There is also a difference when you download something for personal use, as against downloading something and make money out of it. But I leave that to lawyers to think about.
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I doubt na laos na ang BD players. I believe that it will take some time before majority of our countrymen will buy BD players because of the cost thereof, the BD discs and other accessories in order to set-up a simple HT. If the price of the players, the bd discs etc., will become more affordable as in the case of flat tv's, i believe that Filipinos will start buying bd players. Notably, there are still many Filipinos who still buy vcd evidently because of the cheaper price.
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Ah, the legal construct of stealing. It gets various definitions.
In Canada, for instance, downloading copyrighted content from peer-to-peer networks is legal, but uploading it is not.
For me, the act of stealing is when you break the protection code in a disc (whether BD or CD or DVD) and copy its content. That would be like breaking and entering, and looting the house.
But the alleged thief, instead of making money out of what he ripped, uploads it online pr makes it available in a peer-to-peer network for FREE. Canadian laws punishes Robin Hoods, alright. But it ends there.
As a consumer online, I just download whatever I like that is FREE. I think there's a big difference between downloading what is free, and breaking the disk protection code to rip the content. There is also a difference when you download something for personal use, as against downloading something and make money out of it. But I leave that to lawyers to think about.
It's not hard to understand what stealing is. If you steal the owner's property, you get it and he loses it.
But if you only copy the owner's work without his permission, you get a copy, but he doesn't lose his own copy. Can you be prosecuted for theft? No. That's not stealing, that's copyright infringement. Prosecution should be for copyright infringement under the Intellectual Property Code (and under the Cybercrimes Law when it's already enforceable).
Equating piracy to stealing is propaganda from the American music and movie industry, intended to attach a greater stigma to piracy. Sumakay naman ang mga Pilipino.
Ninakawan mo raw sila ng potential profits. Ang mindset nila, pag nagdownload ka ng isang movie, ninakawan mo na raw sila ng amount equivalent to the price of an original DVD or BD.
But that view is highly speculative. Para tumama ang view na yon, dapat pag walang available download, bibili ka agad ng DVD/BD. Ganon nga ba? O baka naman pag walang available download, OK lang sa yo, hindi ka rin bibli ng DVD/BD. Huwag nilang sabihin na bilangin lang nila ang dinownload, nabilang na rin nila ang "ninakaw" sa kanila.
For me, the act of stealing is when you break the protection code in a disc (whether BD or CD or DVD) and copy its content. That would be like breaking and entering, and looting the house.
What if you legally purchased an original DVD. You want to make a backup copy in case of disc damage, so you broke the encyption and copied it to a DVD-R.
Stealing pa rin?
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I doubt na laos na ang BD players. I believe that it will take some time before majority of our countrymen will buy BD players because of the cost thereof, the BD discs and other accessories in order to set-up a simple HT. If the price of the players, the bd discs etc., will become more affordable as in the case of flat tv's, i believe that Filipinos will start buying bd players. Notably, there are still many Filipinos who still buy vcd evidently because of the cheaper price.
Especially since most average household have not even transitioned from CRTs to HDTVs.
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Slightly OT, but regarding IPR.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/white_collar/ipr/ipr (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/white_collar/ipr/ipr)
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What if you legally purchased an original DVD. You want to make a backup copy in case of disc damage, so you broke the encyption and copied it to a DVD-R.
Stealing pa rin?
By your definition, I guess not.
Equating piracy to stealing is propaganda from the American music and movie industry, intended to attach a greater stigma to piracy. Sumakay naman ang mga Pilipino.
Ninakawan mo raw sila ng potential profits. Ang mindset nila, pag nagdownload ka ng isang movie,
ninakawan mo na raw sila ng amount equivalent to the price of an original DVD or BD.
But that view is highly speculative. Para tumama ang view na yon, dapat pag walang available download, bibili ka agad ng DVD/BD. Ganon nga ba? O baka naman pag walang available download, OK lang sa yo, hindi ka rin bibli ng DVD/BD. Huwag nilang sabihin na bilangin lang nila ang dinownload, nabilang na rin nila ang "ninakaw" sa kanila
Totally agree. This was also my position in the good ole days of DVD piracy in Quiapo. ;D
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Especially since most average household have not even transitioned from CRTs to HDTVs.
3 years na lang ang taning ng mga analog CRT TVs dito.
The National Telecommunications Commission officially announced in June 2010 that DTT in the Philippines would utilize the Japanese ISDB-T standard, and issued a circular stating that the country's broadcasters must discontinue their analog services by the transition deadline of 11:59 p.m. (Philippine Standard Time, UTC+8) on December 31, 2015.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_in_the_Philippines
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i think bd's players won't die down any time soon, i have seen & heard people at Tri-noma say that bd players are great! And people prefer to watch bd disc than dvd. :) :D
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I agree. i'm sure that in a few years, the cost of bdp's, bd's and the accessories thereto will become more affordable such that people will prefer buying bd's over dvd's.
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i think bd's players won't die down any time soon, i have seen & heard people at Tri-noma say that bd players are great! And people prefer to watch bd disc than dvd. :) :D
If it's High Definition vs. Standard Definition we're talking about, then of course HD is much better than SD. If it's BD vs. DVD, then yes, BD is much better than DVD.
But BD is not the only way to access HD movies. What if it's a question of BD players vs. media players?
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^appliance stores don't carry NMTs because big brands don't manufacture them
which says a lot on how the industry perceives the content being played in them and how they're not treating it as something that can grow their business
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WDTV players are available at appliance stores.
A lot of the new TVs now have media players built-in. Those big manufacturers surely see it as something that can boost sales.
^appliance stores don't carry NMTs because big brands don't manufacture them
Some of the big brands manufacture media players.
Sony - SMP-N200 Streaming Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SMP-N200-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B005MR6CNK (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SMP-N200-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B005MR6CNK)
Panasonic - DMP-MS10 Streaming Media Player
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-MS10 (http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-MS10)
Philips - HMP5000/12 HD Media player
http://www.philips.co.uk/c/blu-ray-dvd/built-in-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-2.0-hmp5000_12/prd/ (http://www.philips.co.uk/c/blu-ray-dvd/built-in-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-2.0-hmp5000_12/prd/)
LG - SP520 Network Media Player
http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-players/lg-SP520-network-media-player (http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-players/lg-SP520-network-media-player)
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Sa mga SM appliance stores, Astone yata ang NMT na carry nila.
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WDTV players are available at appliance stores.
A lot of the new TVs now have media players built-in. Those big manufacturers surely see it as something that can boost sales.
Some of the big brands manufacture media players.
Sony - SMP-N200 Streaming Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SMP-N200-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B005MR6CNK (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SMP-N200-Streaming-Media-Player/dp/B005MR6CNK)
Panasonic - DMP-MS10 Streaming Media Player
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-MS10 (http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMP-MS10)
Philips - HMP5000/12 HD Media player
http://www.philips.co.uk/c/blu-ray-dvd/built-in-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-2.0-hmp5000_12/prd/ (http://www.philips.co.uk/c/blu-ray-dvd/built-in-wi-fi-hdmi-usb-2.0-hmp5000_12/prd/)
LG - SP520 Network Media Player
http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-players/lg-SP520-network-media-player (http://www.lg.com/us/blu-ray-players/lg-SP520-network-media-player)
those are not sold locally...much less sold in local appliance stores
also they're designed more for markets that have legal streaming content and high speed bandwidths available and not torrent downloads which NMTs store :)
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Mabuhay!
For me, i am enjoying the fruits of my hard work. i don't care if people thinks its becoming laos. Laos lang yan kapag wala nang nagpro-produce ng BD discs. hehehehehe. O0
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I still buy physical BDs for their Cases, Inserts, printouts, boxes and artwork etc.
Ayoko nga idownload sila then iPrint out ng sarili ko hehe.
Same with music CDs or even DVDs. (Miami HEAT 2013 Champions DVD <-- will get this one hehe kesa Download or stream).
But it has to be movies/music that I really like before I get them, therefore I still need the BD players etc. :)
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I hope not, i just got a pioneer bdp 450.
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I just got a Panasonic BDT220 (year 2012), Southeast Asian model, region unlocked for both DVD and BD.
Hirap hanapin nito sa local market. Laos na kasi ang BD players e ... :D
The 2013 equivalent (BDT-230) has been getting lousy user reviews. I guess BD player quality goes downhill starting 2013 for Panasonic. Ganyan din ang nangyari sa SD-DVD players. Bumagsak ang quality ng low and mid-end models starting around year 2007.