i suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask your opinion this early about how dyne-As stand up against other speakers, specifically using a mid-fi amp.
i suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask your opinion this early about how dyne-As stand up against other speakers, specifically using a mid-fi amp.
When I put together my Home Theater system, I literally auditioned everything in the market: Paradigm, Definitive Technology, ProAc at Audio Den, Acoustic Energy,Sonus Faber, NHT, and PSB at Upscale, Energy, Dunlavy, Revel, at Audio Visual Driver, B&W and Mission at Sights & Sounds, etc., etc., etc.
After round 1, the Dynaudio Audience series came out on top.
In a National Geo or Discovery Channel documentary, they featured once a study made by various scientists where quantitatively, they linked what people perceive as beauty as an average of all the available options, e.g., what people consider to be a beautiful face is a nose that is the average of many different noses found on humans, ditto for eyes, cheeks, etc. What has this got to do with Dynaudio's?
In one word, balance. Dyns get that right. No one feature stands out like bass (w/c is stupendous for the size), the midrange (which is invovlving) or the treble (smooth, smooth highs). The Dyns shine in all these aspects.
So I went on round 2 of my speaker selection process where deliberately, I compared the Dynaudio to speakers far more expensive than the Audience line. The Dunlavy was a good 3 times the price, B&W's CDM (SE pa lang noon, hindi pa umaabot dito ang NT) series was a good 2 times the price. All that did was establish the Dynaudios as stonking value for money.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles. Lots of Dynaudio users there (also Sonus Faber, couple of B&Ws and Martin Logans, etc.), including one with the Contour 1.3SE! I'm sure you'll get more info there.
thanks meowpao, rtsy and triple X for your replies!
meowpao,
i get your point. medyo brighter than usual nga ang yamaha so a soft dome tweeter would be more appropriate. in fact, i would have gone for diamond 8.3 wharfs (d talaga kaya audience, eh) to match with my yamaha AV receiver if only they were better and more consistently crafted.
Triple X and rtsy,
which amps were plugged to the audience when you were patiently (wow 6 months!) auditioning them? did you use the same amps for all the other speakers?
rtsy,
di ba you have a pair of sonus faber concertinos? is it because the audience series is still more appropriate for HT than music?
thanks guys!
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
rtsy,
which amps were plugged to the audience when you were patiently (wow 6 months!) auditioning them? did you use the same amps for all the other speakers?
di ba you have a pair of sonus faber concertinos? is it because the audience series is still more appropriate for HT than music?
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
how much is a pair of Audience 52 these days?
are they worth the extra cost over the 42s?
thanks!
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!
ya i agree with using a powerful amp to drive them. sana i could build my system on a car soon with all dynaudios.. hehe..
xXx
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
i'm driving it with a rotel rb-1080 2-channel amp using a passive 2-channel preamp assembled by tubes-guru hyperaudio! tight and punchy bass is amazingly clean even at loud settings. silk dome tweeters are very forgiving to poorly mastered CDs.
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
i'm driving it with a rotel rb-1080 2-channel amp using a passive 2-channel preamp assembled by tubes-guru hyperaudio! tight and punchy bass is amazingly clean even at loud settings. silk dome tweeters are very forgiving to poorly mastered CDs.
Nice setup Tuff! :)
Question lang, aside from the body, is the front also black-colored?
can a yammie 430 drive an audience 42 speaker without problem? My room is approx 5 m x 7 m.
What store sells them cheap? Thanks.
Question guys,
can a yammie 430 drive an audience 42 speaker without problem? My room is approx 5 m x 7 m.
What store sells them cheap? Thanks.
tuff_u_gong / ariel,,
Good point you two, I think I have to hear it first because dynes are on top of my list for speaker upgrade.
Tuff, what branch of listening in style si Johan. I really like to audition yung yammie 430 plus audience 42 or 52 combination.
meowPao,,
Thats exactly my apprehension since I dont have a budget for a receiver upgrade but I really need a set of front speakers for my second set up and instead of buying a soso speaker, I will instead invest in a better speaker ( upgrade ) to replace my m72 fronts and use the m72 for my second set up.. O di naka upgrade ako ;) Im considering m51, audience 42 or any suggested speaker na bookshelves in the range of 15-20 K.
Hi Tuff, si Johan ba yung matangkad at payat? :)
meow,
hmmm.. ako yata tukoy mo a.. hehe.. i'll be bringing my all my dynaudios alright.. doble price sa canada e.. hehe..
maiwan na lahat pwera si misis, clothes, and my dynes..
;D xXx
Anyone have opinions on how the dynaudio subs fare musically? For example I'm fixed on a sub sat setup and get an dynaudio audience 42 or 52 will it be a good thing to audition them with dynaudio subs?
Just recently I experimented with my 6 year old Audience 40 bookshelf and I hooked it up to my Classe CA-1000 power amp (rated at 1 Kilowatt RMS) just to hear the Dynes when powered to the limit. The usual partner of my Audience 40 is a Classe CA350 (350 watts RMS)
My decision here is, once I get the Dynes, pangmatagalan talaga yan.
hey guys,
Im still saving for the dyne audience 42, my dream speaker. What is the cheapest receiver or amp (2 channel ) that you can recommend to power the dynes. Im on a tight budget, between 15-20 K lang. Meron kaya kahit secind hand?
Anyone have opinions on how the dynaudio subs fare musically? For example I'm fixed on a sub sat setup and get an dynaudio audience 42 or 52 will it be a good thing to audition them with dynaudio subs?
Im still saving for the dyne audience 42, my dream speaker. What is the cheapest receiver or amp (2 channel ) that you can recommend to power the dynes. Im on a tight budget, between 15-20 K lang. Meron kaya kahit secind hand?
thanks tuff,
matindi nga yata, the more I read about it the more I want to have it :o Para gumaan ang loob ko, I just thnk that this upgrade is for audio set up naman. Anyway, I was really aspiring for a tube amp pero if its not advisable, then Ill look for a ss power amp or receiver na mataas ang power, am I right ?
When I put together my Home Theater system, I literally auditioned everything in the market: Paradigm, Definitive Technology, ProAc at Audio Den, Acoustic Energy,Sonus Faber, NHT, and PSB at Upscale, Energy, Dunlavy, Revel, at Audio Visual Driver, B&W and Mission at Sights & Sounds, etc., etc., etc.
After round 1, the Dynaudio Audience series came out on top.
In a National Geo or Discovery Channel documentary, they featured once a study made by various scientists where quantitatively, they linked what people perceive as beauty as an average of all the available options, e.g., what people consider to be a beautiful face is a nose that is the average of many different noses found on humans, ditto for eyes, cheeks, etc. What has this got to do with Dynaudio's?
In one word, balance. Dyns get that right. No one feature stands out like bass (w/c is stupendous for the size), the midrange (which is invovlving) or the treble (smooth, smooth highs). The Dyns shine in all these aspects.
So I went on round 2 of my speaker selection process where deliberately, I compared the Dynaudio to speakers far more expensive than the Audience line. The Dunlavy was a good 3 times the price, B&W's CDM (SE pa lang noon, hindi pa umaabot dito ang NT) series was a good 2 times the price. All that did was establish the Dynaudios as stonking value for money.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles. Lots of Dynaudio users there (also Sonus Faber, couple of B&Ws and Martin Logans, etc.), including one with the Contour 1.3SE! I'm sure you'll get more info there.
Hello there. I was just wondering what cables (interconnects) you guys use to match with your Dynes?
thanks iceman90a. Been trying to narrow down my choices, but as is the usual case ... still confused.
Thanks iceman. The way my room is set up, I have a long way to go. I've actually sacrificed the home theater set-up, end. I still am for integrating good 2 channel with a 5.1 channel setup. Para naman walang masabi yung misis ko, di ba. ;D For my center, I cheated and got the Audience 42 center. I figured, my wife won't notice the difference ... and so far she hasn't. ;) At this point, I'm now more concerned with my 2 channel set up. I still have several weak links in the chain which need to be addressed.
What amp are you using? I had a Fase Integrated amp before, 70 watts x 2 and enjoyed decent sound. But I didnt hear my 52's maxed out until I switched to a Hafler XL280 @ 145 watts/channel
you really need juice to get that woofer moving, but when it does... Aaahhh! ;D
I would have to say tumaas balahibo ko when I connected my RMB-1075. Ibang klase pala ang Dyns with high amplification. I already thought it sounded great with my old SR7200, pero with an outboard amp, ibang klase na siya.
Ok na kaya ang XLO Twinax which I can buy locally?
Myki
XLO Twinax are great value for money, ganda ng mids at balanse ang bass at highs, i have a pair that i use to connect my tube preamp and tube amp :)
pero if you want to splurge a little (para sa iyo naman yan di ba?) ask Mike (Xinesyss) if he can lend you Analysis Plus IC's for evaluation ;)
Pareng Iceman, kung ikaw... would you go for the Analysis Plus Oval One rather than the XLO Twinax? Malayo ba ang tunog?
that's a hard question to answer... borrow both and let us know which one you liked ;D
nme drop mo ako (vince) para magka discount ako... este ikaw pala ;D
vince,
after a long hiatus from the Dynaudio sound (1.5 years ago...Audience 42), I recently got a chance to purchase a pre-owned Audience 50 in very mint condition. Paired it with my Classe CA-100 (200 watts RMS X 2 @4 ohms) and now im wondering why I let go of my A42 and took a leave from the Dynaudio sound. I have never heard of anything that can rival the sound of an A50 given the same price point. im pretty confident that the A40,A42,A50, A52 and A52SE will even beat the hell out of speakers costing so much more. Question lang bro....why did you sell your A52's? is it because you went for the tube amp route?
Uy ikaw ba nakakuha nung kay Bensan? grabe good price yun! ;D padinig naman minsan :)
may alam pa ako makukunan ulit ng Audience 50 - pero di ko share, reserved na sakin yun in case magka amp ulit ako na kayang i-drive :-X ;D
sure thing bro. text ka lang pag nasa area ka. pag naayos yung isa naming set up yun papadinig ko sa iyo. Yes the Dynes that I got was from Mr. Ben Santos. He gave it to me at a very good price with stands to boot.
hehe...cant blame you bro. for keeps talaga itong mga speakers na ito. If they only came out with 8 ohm/90db variants e di everybody happy O0
Thanks! I'll take you up on that ;D
sigh... cant have it all... :(
Pwede ba ako magpa-imbita diyan? :) I've heard so many nice things about Dynaudio and Classe combinations and I certainly would like to listen to what some forums rave about.
Synchro, sobrang good deal ka doon sa A50. Congrats on your purchase.
A BIT OF TRIVIA: What did BBC, the British media mogul, choose as its official monitor speaker for all its new recording studios?
Wharfedale? One of the first British-made speakers in history. Pwede....
B&W? Probably the most popular British-made speakers. Malamang!
Spendor? The BBC's British-made speaker for a very, very loooooong time. Pwede rin!
Monitor Audio? Another fine British-made speaker.
The ANSWER: Dynaudio!
Usually the Brits promote or endorse their own... but not this time. :)
Read the full article here: http://www.audiocourses.com/article540.html
Is this AIR series available locally?
Malaking sales promo nagagawa nito for Dynaudio. ;D
I also noticed that Dynes are very "maselan" sa interconnects and speaker cable. Am currently using Van Den Hul interconnects and Van Den Hul Clearwater speaker cables foe my A50's. been contemplating on changing the speaker cables this Christmas since they are kinda old already and have small traces of oxidation na.
BTW Happy Anniversary dude ;D
It was actually my 8th wedding anniversary yesterday as well. So yung cables, regalo ko sa sarili ko, and I had to get my wife a gift as well para hindi mag-selos. :)
mYKi and nephilim
Thanks for the tips re: cables. I might drop by their shop (AA and Toyz) when I have the budget for it na. Most probably by Christmas time na yun hehe. BTW im on the lookout for a pair Audience 40 and Audience center na second hand. baka may alam kayo na tama ang price let me know.
mYKi
bro are you using your Dynes for HT? if yes may I know what center channel are you using? BTW bro shielded ba yung Audience 42? thanks
Siguro you're thinking of getting the used Audience 42 and use it as your Center and Center Surround noh? :)
you read my mind bro ;). Using an A42 as a center channel yes, but no for the rear center set up since im quite satisfied with my 5.1 system and i feel that given the size of my room the benefits of a rear center would be minimal at best. I am presently using the A50's in my stereo set up. I myself am using a B&W center right now and im kinda tinkering with the idea to go for the whole Audience system in my HT system. if funds will allow I would like sana to use a pair of A42's for the surround and another pair of A42's for the center wired to present an 8 ohm load to my power amp. Minnie (listening room) gave me quote of Php21.5T for the A42C (less 10 and less 10 pa daw kasi sale) which will amount to a price thats kinda near to the price of a pair of used A42's. It might not be aesthetically pleasing to the eyes but im thinking that the performance of a pair of A42's as center would far surpass the performance of a single A42C both in terms of dynamics and bass capability. il just have to get a custom built center stand to accomodate the pair and situate it under the monitor. what do you think bro? any suggestions?
pahabol...just tested my A50's and it seems shielded sya. I hope the A42's are shielded also.
Bakit ang mura ng price ngayon? I bought my Audience 42 mga P31k yata. I know mas mura kung vinyl pero by around 10% lang dapat. Are you sure about your price?
You guys in the Philippines are lucky. Believe it or not, Dynaudio speakers here in Toronto are worth 3x as much. That's the reason why I brought mine here (A60, A40, C120) even if I have to pay for the shipping, otherwise I could never afford it here.
;D xXx
mYKi
heard that model sing out loud in LIS Shang....its like hearing the angels sing 8). I refused to listen to it again coz I know when I get home my puny Audience speakers will suddenly sound like crap to my ears.
BTW got the A42C na. I hope Santa gives me a pair of A42's for my rears... ::)
Hi ozzie,
We have the same combination, Audience 52 + Marantz + Rotel.
I would surely like to know how it will sound with tubes. However, Iceman said that Dyns need a lot of current so tubes will not make the Dyns sound good. According to him, it sounded like a transitorized radio.
what model is he looking at? the Dynes are happy with a lot of power, so to do them justice - he should consider at least the 430 :)
Mga Dyns owners,
What is the sound characteristics of this speaker? forward ba?neutral or laidback sounding? Balak ko kasi imatch with Nad or Arcam receiver medyo mahal kasi yung Rotel.Nad ba? or Arcam?Please help!
Thanks
Thanks synrcho1, what about interconnects? any recommendation?
I'm planning to buy new speakers and I am considering the Audience 52. Has anyone here tried to use the said speaker with a Musical Fidelity A2 amp (25 watt per channel into 8ohms and 50 watts into 4 ohms). Will the amp be able to maximize the potential of the Audience 52.
was browsing their site and they have a new line of speakers - the Focus... wonder if they have this in the Phils. :)
dyns need power...lots of power. I doubt if any budget receivers can bring the best out of the dyns.
Hi guys, I am looking for speaker wires for my friend's Audience 72. Any recommendations, where to buy & around how much are they?
TIA :)
Hi Dyna users,
I'm just new to HT and am currently researching on value for money speakers and Receivers.
Currently, I am looking at this combination:
1. HK AVR 235/240 , rated at 50 Watts per channel @ <0.07% THD, 20Hz – 20kHz into 8 ohms
2. Dynaudio Audience 42, rated at 150W at 4 ohms.
Question is, would the power from the HK be enough to bring out the life from the dynaudios? Second, how do you determine the stability of amps sa HT?
I actually have setups for car audio, and you have to match the speaker rated impedance with the amp's stable impedance. But, basing from what i read from the forums, 8 ohm amps can drive 4 ohm speakers. I don't see any documentation for the HK 235 stating the minimum stable impedance..
Hope to get your inputs.
Thanks!
Me & my friend (who owns a dynaudio a72) auditioned an Audeince 72 last night with an EXPOSURE integrated amp. I must say its the best sounding combination I have ever heard, maybe the best I have ever heard.
I was skeptic when I was told about this 70w amp driving dynaudios. But when I auditioned it, the Exposure amp really surprised me.
Matzter,
How much is the exposure amp? 2010s ba?
thanks
Matzter,
How much is the exposure amp? 2010s ba?
thanks
Yes, 2010s. Its at P60k SRP. I keep away from it to prevent SARS.wow 60k for integrated amps huh.. :o :o :o if you avoid it, it must be worth that...
Mat,
Since you already heard this amp with Dyns, could you describe its sound? laid back ba, neutral or forward?
thanks
yes about the receiver nga pala. The dealer was recommending yamaha which happen to drive it well so far. Pero medyo bright sa hearing ko e. So i would appreciate any recommendations for an alternative receiver/amp
matt, hes still gonna buy panny ae900 from that 375k budget.
Hopefully, someone could give me more direct advise on the combinations if i want to buy this or that with my budget 280-375k, it can be lower, as long as the quality won't suffer sana.
I will try to post sa recommend a speaker thread para mas appropriate mr. expenz...hehehehe, alam mo naman tayo sa PinoyDVD, kapag nagbigay ka budget, lalo na kung nagrerecomend lang kami at hindi yung gumagastos, sinasagad yung budget, hehehehe ;D ;D
One thing i didn't like in this dyna thread is that when i say my budget is 280-375k, some are trying to give advices to exact my expenditure to 375k. Which is okay but i will be most likely happy if someone could recommend a lowered hometheater set up price but would produce a very pleasant and satisfying result. I will now be considering a very very good alternative and yet i hope it still would be a satisfying experience. So thanks again mates for the recommendations,advices and patience you got for advice seekers like me. i hope you would all keep it coming. ;)
@ munchskin
hmm yung cables nga pala is another minor problem, pero ok lng nmn ata paparecommend nlng sa dealer, cguru nmn since cable lng yan e makakapagsuggest na sila ng maayus nun
Hi Guys,
I'm already dead set to get the Dynaudio 42s. My problem is that I have the following components, and i am lacking the processor:
1. DVD/CD Player (HK27)
2. Power Amp - HK PA2000 (120W x 2 @ 8 ohms)
4 (soon to be) Dynaudio 42s
I am having trouble deciding what to put in the middle, either an AVR or just a pre-processor/integrated amp?
Please help...
Thanks!
ahhhh.. hehe out of budget. so anyway you will suggest to get an AVR pa rin right?
Hi Master MAtz,
yep, its bridged.
I'll be actually using them for both HT/Audio. Wala naman siguro problema to right, given the rep of HK amps?
Fong
risky risky! libo yung sugal nito. heheh
What particular rotel yung kaya mag drive ng Dyns? I am also looking at the RA-02/RA-01, kaso 40W/chan lang to. bad trip naman ang hirap maghanap ng papasok sa Dynaudio...
Hi Guys,
I'm already dead set to get the Dynaudio 42s. My problem is that I have the following components, and i am lacking the processor:
1. DVD/CD Player (HK27)
2. Power Amp - HK PA2000 (120W x 2 @ 8 ohms)
4 (soon to be) Dynaudio 42s
I am having trouble deciding what to put in the middle, either an AVR or just a pre-processor/integrated amp?
Please help...
Thanks!
Acquired a Dynaudio Audience 70 from a friend yesterday. W/ a top yamaha receiver, it was boomy in music, di bagay w/ tube pre amp plus Rotel power amp (IMO). Ok naman sya with exposure 2010 (not the 70w 2010S, this one is just 50w!) I borrowed, but harsh at times.
I was thinking of getting a Musical Fidelity A3.5 for its "HT direct" function that lets it become a power amp for HT. Ang mahal nga lang. :-[
Any MF/dyn users? is the combo ok?
Can't you use a regular integrated amp with the Dyns and use one of the regular inputs for HT ?
qguy- tempted to post the response in 2 other threads in a different forum ;D
a bypass switch would make it a lot simpler for wiring. in audio mode, his ht processor will be turned off, only the integ amp will be in operation. in bypass mode - the integ amp's volume and tone controls will not be operational, it will only act as a power amp to pump out the juice for the speakers - all controls will be done by the processor.
Mat - haven't heard the 70's yet but we did pair up Audience 52's with a rotel power amp and tube preamp and the sound was ok. maybe there are other factors involved, room placement perhaps?
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
Since the pure direct function bypasses the Yamaha, I assume it will utilize the CDP DAC & tube preamp. This way I can still use it for HT. I will experiment on it soon & post my findings. :)
Acquired a Dynaudio Audience 70 from a friend yesterday. W/ a top yamaha receiver, it was boomy in music, di bagay w/ tube pre amp plus Rotel power amp (IMO). Ok naman sya with exposure 2010 (not the 70w 2010S, this one is just 50w!) I borrowed, but harsh at times.
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
All I can say is Dynes are simply STUNNING!!! Never heard my music like this before! Its like I have a stage of performers in front of me.
I am sure 200w monoblocks will sound heavenly.
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
hmmm heavyweight SS or valve amplication na ang kasunod nyan! ;D
arnoldc,give a listen to paradigm reference studio 20 version 3.. they can be found at sights and sounds shangrila mall...this would make you think twice about buying a dyne :)
You have a good point and will keep me really thinking. Can you pls PM me what speaker(s) youve finally bought and what receiver are you using... just for reference while Im still hunting for budget ;)
give a listen to paradigm reference studio 20 version 3.. they can be found at sights and sounds shangrila mall...this would make you think twice about buying a dyne :)
iceman's proposed set up is the very ideal since you can use the integrated amp in music and in HT mode as well but there are only quite a few integrateds that have the HT thoughput function (one that disables the integrateds controls whenever it is engaged)....Krell is one but be prepared to shell out mega bucks for a brand new unit. Another method is to get a very good HT processor that excells in music as well and simply power the Dynes with a good power amp. That is a much simpler route to take. If im not mistaken the A70's are basically A50's that are in a floorstanding design plus the addition of another woofer.
Thanks for the advice sir, but I prefer to use the analog connection of the CDp, thereby bypassing the processor. Sayang lang if I go for a more expensive musical processor if I am not going to use their DAC. For now the setup with CDP, tube preamp, Yamaha in PD/bypass mode + Rotel power amp is doing fine.
Thanks for the advice sir, but I prefer to use the analog connection of the CDp, thereby bypassing the processor. Sayang lang if I go for a more expensive musical processor if I am not going to use their DAC. For now the setup with CDP, tube preamp, Yamaha in PD/bypass mode + Rotel power amp is doing fine.
But seeing the amp you were referring to made me drool. ;D
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/205krell1.jpg)
KRELL KAV400xi (http://www.krellonline.com/html/m_KAV_p_KAV400xi_spec.html)
$2500.00, with throughput button (HT direct).
Class A 200wpc @ 8ohms, 400wpc @ 4 ohms, 1,800w power consumption :o :o :o
Anyone selling pre-owned at 50% off? ;D
I wonder how much my electricity bill will shoot up & how warm my room will be with a 400w Class A amp...
Listen to it w/o the Yamaha in the chain. im pretty sure you will like the results.
Matt with that amp im sure it will make your dyne sing by ten folds. Pero parang iwan naman yun speaker so upgrade ka uli sa c4 para mag match yun amp sa speakers. :D
I would highly recommend the Simaudio I-3 for Dyns.Congrats-another Dyns convert.
Di bagay sa wallet bro. $6,000 for pre amp & power amp. wow receiver lang muna tayo. ;D
Bro, punta ako HK by April, balitaan mo ako kung ano maganda bilhin dyan ha. Balita ko marami mura dyan. ;)
Thanks. My (subjective) opinion is that my older Missions still excelled more in HT. But in music, the dynes gave a totally new life to all my CD's, even those I dont listen to anymore. These are truly amazing speakers, reminds me of those impressive high end speakers that I auditioned & then avoid (iwas SARS).
Walang nang kulang? mayroon bang ganun sa hobby natin? :D
Maybe by April 10k na lang hi def players dyan, or malay mo may murang Dyn center (para di OT ;D)...
Hopefully we could meet, samahan mo ako sa HiFi shops dyan. Dati kasi I only go to computer & electronics shops when I wasnt into the hobby yet. Exciting... 8)
Pag di ka pwede paturo na lang kung saan pupunta. ;)
Got a mint used pair of audience 42, hooked it up with Cayin MT35 and Cayin CDT15A. Has a specific character unique with the audience comparing with my Epos M12.2 (same set up). Am now going confused which set of speakers to let go (for sale). The audience 42 or the Epos M12.2. I'm torn between two sets of speakers with 1 set of tube amp and tube CD player. Help! Any offer I cannot refuse? 09209609550
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greetings everyone!!! just registered today and this thread immediately caught my attention.
I have 2 dyna's - audience 5 and audience 8
used to drive them (not simultaneously) with a pioneer vsx-633. just bought a second hand NAD304 which is now driving the 5. ok naman dun sa 633 coz i always listen in the middle of the night so mga 1/3 lang ang volume. pero sarap talaga pakinggan lalo na mga vocals like joni james, perro como, belafonte etc. I also listen to symphony orchestras and ang lalim at lawak ng soundstage. As with the NAD, have not yet listen to it much.
Anyway, i have been backreading this thread and found out that most would recommend a CLASSE or a NAD to drive the Dyna's. Heard already a DYNA/CLASSE combi about 10 years ago and until now dko pa makalimutan ang tunog. Passed by SM and saw an HK stereo only integrated amp (HK904?) that isspecified to drive 4ohms speakers. What's your take on this?
Can you also direct me where to find second hand Classe's and NAD? Does Listening Room still carry this brand? What about other amps that's cheaper than Classe, any reco? Also saw a NAD 2400 for sale, ok ba un with the Dyna's? Thanks in advance. Sorrrrry ha dami question. na-excited lang. :)
Anyway, i have been backreading this thread and found out that most would recommend a CLASSE or a NAD to drive the Dyna's. Heard already a DYNA/CLASSE combi about 10 years ago and until now dko pa makalimutan ang tunog. Passed by SM and saw an HK stereo only integrated amp (HK904?) that isspecified to drive 4ohms speakers. What's your take on this?
Can you also direct me where to find second hand Classe's and NAD? Does Listening Room still carry this brand? What about other amps that's cheaper than Classe, any reco? Also saw a NAD 2400 for sale, ok ba un with the Dyna's? Thanks in advance. Sorrrrry ha dami question. na-excited lang. :)
hi guys!!!most probably it could...but just as advised, the safest way to answer your ? is to try it.
its my first time to be in a forum..
need ur help..
hev anyone tried focus 140 with a jolida jd801a tube amp (70wpc x 2 @ 8ohms)?
im planning to buy one kc. i know that dynes are very good and it
matches my taste as far as sound quality is concern when paired
with a good and powerful amps.
but im just worried if it will sound well with my jolida integrated amp..
PS. hi myki!! tnxs for d sr5500.
hi guys!!!
its my first time to be in a forum..
need ur help..
hev anyone tried focus 140 with a jolida jd801a tube amp (70wpc x 2 @ 8ohms)?
im planning to buy one kc. i know that dynes are very good and it
matches my taste as far as sound quality is concern when paired
with a good and powerful amps.
but im just worried if it will sound well with my jolida integrated amp..
PS. hi myki!! tnxs for d sr5500.
is depends on what you really want to achieve. those are alot of speakers and while still very good models (up to know) you've used them enough na naman to get your moneys worth since 2002 siguro.
if you have a space constraint then you might be better off replacing your current speakers. i suggest you keep a pair of 52s or 42s for a 2ch audio set-up next to your polk surroundbar.
hi sir,listened to the same set-up and I liked the output of the gray limited edition audience 52 compared to the focus 140.
i recently listened to dyns focus 140 at LIS Shangri-la Mall... hooked on McIntosh s/s integrated amp 200wpc... i like what i heard... but i approximate these Dyns, like other dyns, will output a bit more when hooked on separates...
i will try these dyns on separates (tube preamp and tube power amps) made by AMXAudio several weeks from now... will see if my "estimate" is correct...
best regards,
fer
listened to the same set-up and I liked the output of the gray limited edition audience 52 compared to the focus 140.
oh... thanks for the heads up... i will let LIS fire the Audience 52 on my next visit... ;) :)
from what i observed, their listening sofa was placed way back to more than 1.5meter of the "sweet spot" of Dyns Focus 140... i sat on the floor where the sweet spot was and was satisfied with the output... it will be interesting to listen to these babies on tube preamp/poweramp...
btw, Audience series are truly pleasing considering the price point... when budget permits i might grab me a pair of audience floorstanders...
cheers!!
fer
@ sir Romy
i was able to listen to a smallish pair of excite X12 bookshelf type .. mids & higs are very beautiful.. the low frequency notes tight but a bit lacking for my taste.. maybe these pair still needed proper burn-in hours and proper location in a room to up the bass.. or a decent and well integrating sub may complement it well.. YMMV ;)
@ sir Cal
C1 confidence series also needed burn-in hours.. bass amount & quality improved to perceivable level from 200 hours of use..the esotar2 tweeters' performance quite remarkable too .. maganda tunog on s/s or tube or hybrid system .. matched sa system mo sir Cal ;)
@ sir Romy
you are always welcome po ;)
@ sir Cal
C1 confidence series also needed burn-in hours.. bass amount & quality improved to perceivable level from 200 hours of use..the esotar2 tweeters' performance quite remarkable too .. maganda tunog on s/s or tube or hybrid system .. matched sa system mo sir Cal ;)
@romymartinez
welcome,sir!
Doc Fer, I agree with you on the esotar performance!.....hindi nkakapagod ;) ;).......Basta properly driven, be it tube, S/S or hybrid, Dynes will definitely sing!!! ......I'm happy na po with my dynes F/S. But I'll be happier if i have like what you have in your home.....Confidence C1! :D :D :D :D
doc fer its been a while, im still around.
yung C1 kahit di ko na patugtugin at connect sa system masaya na ako tisura pa lang panalo na
angeles is like 45 minutes away from my place, pwede bang pumasyal dyan doc :)
for my untrained ears all Dyns speakers sing well brother Cal especially when matched with very good source, preamp and power amp and high quality cables (example: Cal's cables) ..
I agree with you agin, Doc Fer!!!..... Thanks for the ads!! heheheh
.hence, i am pretty sure your F/S Dyns are superbly performing too as your system (and room) are very revealing, very capable and very authoritative 8)
Another satisfied Dynaudio owner here!!! ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)
my friends audience 52 sounded good with 50wpc amx kt-88 monoblocs auditioned at kinetic, robinsons pioneer.
+100
I know someone using a 35wpc tube amp and tube pre amp driving a dyne F/S! :) :) :)
+200
i know that someone ;)
when pre/power amp are properly build and matched
they can make the dyns,bs/fs, sing so well ;D ;D ;D
+200
i know that someone ;)
when pre/power amp are properly build and matched
they can make the dyns,bs/fs, sing so well ;D ;D ;D
di ko yata kilala ito ah father jim ;D
bubulong ko syo brader Pips pagnagkita tyo ;D ;D ;D
depends on one's taste on volume/loudness and room size/character.. i prefer listening below 85db SPL measured via SPL meter on my listening spot which is approximately 6 feet from a pair of Dyns C1 and 8 feet from a single Dyns sub500.
i've used 40wpc tube amp on my smallish listening room 23feet X 12feet ..ok naman.. 200wpc s/s amp oks na oks.. 150wpc tube mono block amps.. ok na ok din ;D
cheers !!!
4) other factors i can not recall at the moment Grin
LOL !!! looks like senior moments na nga yata kapatid Cal :D ;D
our recent travels were physically tiring pero ok naman... ang masama eh dumarating na ang mga credit card bills !!!.. hahahahaha
Listening in Style at 5th floor Shangri-la Mall. I must warn you that Dynaudios can be very habit-inducing vice. I started with an Audience 42, now got Audience 52's and am planning to upgrade to Focus 110. The Audience 42 belongs to the Top 10 Best Speakers list, and stands out as the best value on that list which includes the truly exotic makes with stratospheric prices. It's the affordable entry to true audiophile quality speakers. I have tried a number of other popular speakers brands before, only the Dynes satisfied me - I heard detail that I never realized was there in the music, expansive soundstage and very accurate audio reproduction (the slogan in their box goes - "Danes don't lie.") . The only caveat is that they demand power to bring out the best in them. Truly habit forming, as you can get so impressed with the 42's until you get to hear and then crave for an upgrade for the next one higher in their range, like a drug pusher, hehe. The only speaker brands that I would consider replacing them would be either Sonus Faber or the Focal Berylium.
Sensya na kasi newbie lang. May I know the price ranges of these delights? And can they be driven by a 100w/ch AVRs?
I previously had the Dynaudio Contour 1.1 with an Audience 122c for fronts and center being driven by an AVR. I thought I had enough power since my AVR specs said 80 wpc. Little did I know that was the rating with only 2 channels driven. With 5 channels driven, watts came down to something like 40wpc. Obviously my AVR did not have enough power. I changed to a Rotel processor and a Rotel power amp rated at 120wpc all channels driven. Night and day difference in sound quality and volume.
For AVRs make sure of the wpc with all channels driven. I suggest using at least 100wpc to drive Dyns.
I think the AVR needs to be 4 ohm capable.
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
do you need a big listening area with the dynes? can it be placed near the wall? tnx
What is PRAT?
Pace, rythm and timing. :)
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
Can someone post the srp of confidence and contour bs series?
Only a Sonus Faber can beat a Dynaudio in its immediate price range (conceding that Sonus is easily 2x the price of their Dynaudio equivalents).
which speakers are these sir, tyMaxado mura kakahiya, at dyn thread kaya ito noh. Mas maganda di hamak confidence c2, pero ayoko kasi maxado magaling at magastos na system, di me makaka concentrate nang husto sa musika.
Got to hear an SF bs yesterday and deym, youd thought real instruments are playing in front of you. What would you suggest for bs Dyns for less than 100k? Ive only heard Focus 140. I found it nasal though. Maybe it still needs more break in time.
Maxado mura kakahiya, at dyn thread kaya ito noh. Mas maganda di hamak confidence c2, pero ayoko kasi maxado magaling at magastos na system, di me makaka concentrate nang husto sa musika.
tnx sir, pm mo na lang sakin, baka makatulong sa paghahanap ko ng speakers, ty
Even Dynaudio pays homage to SF in Dynaudio's "Book of Truth" brochure they talk about "For more than three centuries, experts have been trying to discover the secret behind good sounding wooden boxes from Cremona" in apparent reference to SF.
You got that right - Dynes will pale in comparison to Sonus Faber. I was about to suggest a Contour, but we got to audition a Dynaudio Contour floorstander alongside a Sonus Faber Guarneri at Melvin's shop and wow, the difference was night and day. If one hadn't listened to a Sonus Faber, might have been happy with Dynaudio. Nothing compares to SF and it's not fair comparison to place alongside Dynaudio, which in its class, is likewise the best that can be had. Even Dynaudio pays homage to SF in Dynaudio's "Book of Truth" brochure they talk about "For more than three centuries, experts have been trying to discover the secret behind good sounding wooden boxes from Cremona" in apparent reference to SF. So get the best Dynaudio you can afford - and if you have P100k, the Contour it is for you! I myself am getting the next higher in the Dynaudio range, the Focus 110, which should keep me happy until I get to my SF.dynaudios statement was in reference to the violin makers of cremona, not sonus faber. sonus fabers baffle design philosophy is based on the dynamics of the musical instrument thereby implying an addition (some refer to as coloration) to the total fabric of sound. other manufacturers prefer their baffle to be as neutral as possible. take for example a resonant audionote baffle compared to a dead wilson audio box.
I heard tinalo daw ng Dynaudio yung Harbeth kasi Dynaudio na daw gamit ng BBC, hindi na Harbeth.I actually love the sound of the dynes, especially the one fr. Jim has (contour 3.3 iirc) very natural. It has been for a long time the sound I have been looking for, and my go to reference for a good sounding speakers. Until I heard the harbeth and fell in love with her ;D.
* Tannoy Mercury (reincarnation of the old Mercury series which I still have)
Anybody here heard the Excite bookshelves? How are they?
I heard tinalo daw ng Dynaudio yung Harbeth kasi Dynaudio na daw gamit ng BBC, hindi na Harbeth.
This link might help.... Happy reading:)
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,56992.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,56992.0.html)
Just to clarify the above quote from the Book of Truth, the reference to good sounding boxes were the Stradivarious violin and not the Sonus Faber which came into existence in 1983.
Comparing the Dynaudio Contour to the SF Guarneri may not be fair as the latter is double the price of the former and one is floorstander and the other is BS.
i would like to revive this thread.
Anyone here knows how much is the DM 2/6, MC15, or Special 25?
Proceed hpa 250 watts x3 at 8 ohms and 500 watts x3 per chan at 4ohms driving my c2 fronts and contour center.
Another question although mukhang patay na tong thread. Malaki ba pinagkaiba ng sonic qualities ng Dynaudio Audience 42 sa Excite X12? Currently have the 42s but thinking of purchasing the X12. May nakapag A/B test na ba?
kaya na bang i drive ng onkyo 609 yung mga audience 40/42/52 and the newer dyns?
Another question although mukhang patay na tong thread. Malaki ba pinagkaiba ng sonic qualities ng Dynaudio Audience 42 sa Excite X12? Currently have the 42s but thinking of purchasing the X12. May nakapag A/B test na ba?
If I may ask, what equipments (amp, source, cables..etc) are you using with the Audience 42?
This is for my PC setup so here it is:
Amp: Yaqin VK2100 (Sir ivan says this one's a prototype for the VK2200 which uses 12 series tubes. Mine does)
Source: Muse Mini DAC MK2 Outboard soundcard with upgraded opamps and caps
Cables: Generic shielded chinese IC and 16awg copper wires (Not a big believer in cables to be honest)
Planning to upgrade my amp to a Rotel 15 series although konting ipon pa. Maybe by March. I've been talking to sir muypogi about the right amp to use and I've narrowed it down to this one, or the Roksan K2 which is FS in the marketplace.
This is for my PC setup so here it is:
Amp: Yaqin VK2100 (Sir ivan says this one's a prototype for the VK2200 which uses 12 series tubes. Mine does)
Source: Muse Mini DAC MK2 Outboard soundcard with upgraded opamps and caps
Cables: Generic shielded chinese IC and 16awg copper wires (Not a big believer in cables to be honest)
Planning to upgrade my amp to a Rotel 15 series although konting ipon pa. Maybe by March. I've been talking to sir muypogi about the right amp to use and I've narrowed it down to this one, or the Roksan K2 which is FS in the marketplace.
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
ya i agree with using a powerful amp to drive them. sana i could build my system on a car soon with all dynaudios.. hehe..
xXx
but with the price of the DYN sub, you can get other brands which would perform better
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.Billabong is the Dynaudio god. He should be able to guide you with getting the sound that you want out of your speakers.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Billabong is the Dynaudio god. He should be able to guide you with getting the sound that you want out of your speakers.then it justify na its not the brand youre using its how you setup your system whether its mounting or cabin treatment it all goes down to proper setup and how you aim and position your components and how will you use your components
He's dialed-in enough liveliness out of his Dynes to warrant some head scratching from the experts. :)
As for the replacement DAC, MF might not be the right direction if you want a lively sound. They have a smooth and mellow presentation, for the most part.
Hindi po kaya sa isang class ng isang competition, at hindi sa buong scene?
Are you referring to Ferdie's Vios? If so, then yes it was a very good build for a Targa setup. Mostly sa cabin treatment at mounting ginamit ang budget doon.
Depende sa system synergy din and setup nung sounds. Mas mahirap gumawa ng car setup vs living room setup. You have to take the inherent vibrations and acoustics inside the car, lalo na pag SQ (sound quality) yung setup. Pag SPL palakasan lang talaga yan. . . yung iba naka brace na yung windows kasi sobrang lakas yung bayo. . .almost all car audio enthusiast wants to achieve the kind of sound a ht/music setup can produce because the components used in ht/music application is naka enclosed sa fixed box and in a separate box not like in car audio wherein the whole car is working like a box
Graduate na ko sa boom boom sa car audio, which was a fun phase while it lasted . . . SQ lang (without sub) kasi may pamilya na. . . may video system nga lang to quiet down the kids. . . ;D
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Any suggested amplifiers to pair with the Audience 42? My plan for home audio is somewhat like armymanhaha's system where the PC is the source. Actually, I originally wanted a Yaqin MC10-L paired with Polk RTi A4s, but right now I'm pretty convinced of expanding my budget and purchasing Dyns instead (probably secondhand ;))
I'm into nearfield listening since I just listen 1m away.
Why Dynaudio? Since they're well-respected in the industry. Actually, I'm more of a Focal-kind of guy since I really love their sound signature but I'd shudder with regards to the price. After hearing my brother's McIntosh-Dynaudio Evidence Temptation, I'm pretty sold on them.
Listened to a pair of Dynaudio Excite X16 yesterday as well as the X12. However, may konting sira yun X12 hence playing anything with it would produce audible distortion.. but disregarding the distortion, yep... definitely sold na ako sa Dyns.
I've also auditioned the Focal floorstanders in Shang, it has that classic Focal sound. Very crisp but lacking somewhat in the lower midrange. I would also like to point out that the room is untreated except for a rug versus LiS theatre room.
Coming from the X16s, the bass of the X12 was a bit underwhelming. But since I plan to position this near a wall (8-10cm away lang siya), I think that should do the trick... fingers crossed it doesn't sound too boomy for my taste.
As for my choice of amplifiers, there's really two: NAD C356BEE or the CA 650A Azur. I'd probably go for the CA due to the NAD's 10k additional price difference thanks to the sale of 5th Avenue ;). Any comments between these two amplifiers?
nothing comes close to the mid and highs of DYNA Audio, I have heard it all..all top gears... and i could attest to this statement. ;) ;) ;) ;)
john
Now I'm thinking of speaker stands and wiring. Personally, if I tell my parents I just plonked down 10k for a pair of speaker stands, they'll kill me ;D so I wonder whether getting it is really worth it. And the wires... I guess it's time to ask for JR's opinion for them also. Any suggestions?
Note: The "upgrade bug" is very much real. Once again my budget doubled for 'simple' home hi-fi ::)
@muypogi
Sir, inupgrade ko na yung DAC ko to V-DAC mk2. Huge difference, music is just more more enjoyable now. Thanks for the very helpful suggestion guys. ;)
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
what's the best preowned Danes na FS na swak sa 50k?:)
Old models i could think of are the Contour 1.3se or the cheaper 1.1.
what's the best preowned Danes na FS na swak sa 50k?:)
thanks sir! looks like kelangan pa mag imponderable:)
anyone here knows where i can get a used focus 110/140? any opinions on the X12/X16?
thanks guys. really thinking bout the focus 160s, pero makukuha ko lang yun by december due to money constraints. i guess i'll just have to wait for the 110/140 to pop up in the marketplace :(
Personal taste, I auditioned the Focus 110 ACTIVE before and I would say I'd pick the Excite X12 over it given a comparable integrated amplifier. Watt is watt ;) the Danes still respond happily to more power.
Sir, any idea about the performance of Excite X16? How much po kaya ang price? Thanks :)
Excite X16 was last priced at around 61,600 I believe. You further discount that after some happy haggling :D
As for the sound, I didn't go for the X16 due to the price difference of around 16k from the X12. During my first audition, JR didn't have the X12 available so I listened to the X16 at first.. but I couldn't justify spending 16k for a few hertz more on the low-end. If you're seeking for midrange purity, give the X12 a try first before the X16 but if you're leaning more on bassy tracks, give the X16 a go first.
At the end of the day, audition both and see what you'll go with.
auditioned a pair of Dynaudio Confidence C4 a few hours ago at LIS Shangri-la Mall..Doc, basta ako your C1 is my BS Benchmark....Makes me dream of having one too!!! ;)
the very pleasing SQ will stick in my mind for a very loooong time !! 8)
thanks, brother June. sana ma-audition din natin ang Dyns C2 mkII.. at maiuwi sa bahay kung sakaling magkaroon na ng budget :DDoc no need to audition it, we love the little sister C1 how come with the Big Brother C2? Take it home Doc para Pre-amp na lang :o......................Statement!!!!!!
i estimate it will match well with the new and powerful power amp ;)
http://www.dynaudio.com/int/home_loudspeaker_systems/confidence/confidence_c2.php
Since I was in the neighborhood of shangrila mall, I decided to go to LIS, met JR and got whisked away to the dyne dungeon.
Got to see, feel and hear the Contour 1.4, Excite x16, Special 25, Confidence C1 paired to a Krell pre/power amp with the dCS Puccini CDP as the source
But its the Special 25 bolted to the #4 stands that tickled my fancy
Probably when I grow up I'll eventually be able to afford it LOL =)
What is the basic difference ng Contour and Audience ?
Refinement and Musical Involvement.
Doc no need to audition it, we love the little sister C1 how come with the Big Brother C2? Take it home Doc para Pre-amp na lang :o......................Statement!!!!!!
Refinement and Musical Involvement.
Precisely. Audience series is mainly designed for the HT environment however it is very good for music as well while the Contours' forte is primarily music but just the same it can double duty in HT. having owned both I can say that the Contours advantage is like what Edwin said...refinement and musicality.
Ok thanks.. may refinement na ako at musicality in my Usher X-719, I need Detail and Slam for a different flavor, i guess it should be Audience hehehe mas mura pa !!!
Hi Benjie!
Try to audition and start with Excite16, i'm confident you will find the different flavor you are looking!:-)
Has anyone auditioned the Focus 260?
Ok thanks.. may refinement na ako at musicality in my Usher X-719, I need Detail and Slam for a different flavor, i guess it should be Audience hehehe mas mura pa !!!
I have the Audience 72 SE and it has the slam that I look for when needed in music. I don't use it for HT. I'm wondering if an upgrade to the Focus 260 will be worth it considering the price.
I have the Audience 72 SE and it has the slam that I look for when needed in music. I don't use it for HT. I'm wondering if an upgrade to the Focus 260 will be worth it considering the price.
atty ..... hinahanap ka na ng focus 260 heheheheSir, I suggest mag contour series ka na, konti na lang diperensya and mas maganda...
sa wakas naka experience din ng dynes...pinaka entry level lang...hihihi.. .
dynaudio audience 42
very dynamic and for a tiny little speakers malalim magbass
You're the man!!! Congrats sis!ang dilim kasi dito sa sala hehe..
Pitchur naman ^-^
Hi Guys,
Meron ba kayong alam kung sino nagbebenta ng Dynaudio 72SE or Contour 1.8 MK2 in mint Condition? I love the sound of those 2 speakers tnx for the reply if any? ;)
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.Amps.... Give them dedicated amps with lots of juice.
What size is the room? What do you think is lacking? Low frequency kick? SPL? Top end?
Let's put things in perspective first...the A40's will never be on the same level as the NS777 in terms of sheer bass weight and SPL. That deficiency is probably what you are noticing when you switch from A to B. To begin with the specs of the NS777 suits your Denon receiver very well but OTOH the A40's will need more. More not in the sense of more wattage but in current which your Denon is not capable of delivering. It is not the DAC that is wanting but the amp. Dynes love big SS derived power and while one can drive it from tubes it will be very expensive if you do so (you will need BIG tube amps).
I've done so many matches with my A40's as well based on a medium sized room and I found out that a 125 watts per channel amp @4 ohms WITH high current capability meaning it can still double at 2 ohms is precisely the ticket to make this small jewel shine in its true glory.
If you are in my area (South) you can bring your Dynes over and we can hook it up to a 200w per channel high current amp and you will see the difference.
Let's put things in perspective first...the A40's will never be on the same level as the NS777 in terms of sheer bass weight and SPL. That deficiency is probably what you are noticing when you sabi itch from A to B. To begin with the specs of the NS777 suits your Denon receiver very well but OTOH the A40's will need more. More not in the sense of more wattage but in current which your Denon is not capable of delivering. It is not the DAC that is wanting but the amp. Dynes love big SS derived power and while one can drive it from tubes it will be very expensive if you do so (you will need BIG tube amps).
I've done so many matches with my A40's as well based on a medium sized room and I found out that a 125 watts per channel amp @4 ohms WITH high current capability meaning it can still double at 2 ohms is precisely the ticket to make this small jewel shine in its true glory.
If you are in my area (South) you can bring your Dynes over and we can hook it up to a 200w per channel high current amp and you will see the difference.
As others have said your dyns needs more current . i once owned a denon 4306 paired with the same dyn 40 . the sound is not that impressive . when i tried a rotel, ati and a mark levinson amp . the sound was totally different.You mean sir even with high powered 43xx from denon wouldn't make any difference? I'm now realizing that making these dynes sing would be along way for me. Specially that my gears right now are for ht.
Amps.... Give them dedicated amps with lots of juice.
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
ETA? :)July or August..
@myki++100000000000000000 :)
If you have the room and proper amplification, C1 is worth every penny.:-).....and Imho, choosing Contour S1.4 over the Xcite would be a wiser decision! Goodluck!...:)
dumating na po mga Sir....(http://www.hifiexperience.se/pub_images/large/DynaudioExcite14_2572.jpg)
The X14 is the most compact Excite model yet delivers true high-end sound quality to any system by virtue of its long-excursion mid/woofer, refined soft dome tweeter and first-class crossover components. The exquisite sonic balance, underscored by an unbelievably deep, fast and perfectly controlled bass response is a rarity in this price class.
A Dynaudio specialty plays a major role: extremely lightweight aluminium voicecoils and exceptionally large, powerful magnet systems are utilized in the X14 tweeters and mid/woofers. The music signal reproduced is graced with incredible precision, dynamics and accuracy. Moreover, the X14 is easy to drive with a wide range of amplifiers due to the amp-friendly extremely linear 8 Ohm impedance.
The beautifully-crafted cabinet is equally refined: exquisite natural wood or satin lacquer finishes enoble the rigid, solid enclosure while the minimal distance between tweeter and mid/woofer serves to improve timing and phase. The Dynaudio Stand 3X speaker stands, SF1 speaker feet, and assorted wall mount brackets are perfect accessories available for optimizing placement of the X14.
Pabulong naman cash price sa x14Leas 10 % po
@myki
If you have the room and proper amplification, C1 is worth every penny.:-).....and Imho, choosing Contour S1.4 over the Xcite would be a wiser decision! Goodluck!...:)
Ok! So far most advice leans toward the C1. I'll enjoy the Contour 1.1 first and save up for that. After a few more months of revisiting my CD collection, I'll try to audition the C1. Thanks!May pa dating akang C1Platinum next month na sa HK na yung ship...pwede e audition bago ko gamitin...I am pretty sure ibang level of SQ...dapat busog sa amplification para mas maganda...
Uy! Maganda iyan :-) I'll bring the budget amp series but still with 350W per channel.sa place mo na,...o head count na mga boys...anong speaker pwede e A/B?
sa place mo na,...o head count na mga boys...anong speaker pwede e A/B?
count me inpasama din hehe
Ganda naman nyan ^-^Diba may bookshelf ka?
wala pa pre, hanap tayo ng speaker na 2 way para ma A/B ;)
ganito yun parating na rosewood...
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Wala pa bang schedule for this? :-) For me to upgrade to the C1, it has to sound 10 times better than the Contour 1.1. Kasi that's also the difference in price!
Wala pa bang schedule for this? :-) For me to upgrade to the C1, it has to sound 10 times better than the Contour 1.1. Kasi that's also the difference in price!to hear is to believe.. c1 is my dream speaker hehe
Knowing Dynaudio, as you go up the ladder, there is a big difference in the sound quality. Hearing the Evidence in the audio show is a testament to that.
swerte kahit low budget model lang ;D
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I actually wanted to ask if somebody in here upgraded from Audience 42 to Focus 140 and if the upgrade cost was worth the performance difference.
If the difference is mainly on bass department maybe I'm better off with adding a subwoofer. Or?
Thanks for any advice.
Sherwin
I actually wanted to ask if somebody in here upgraded from Audience 42 to Focus 140 and if the upgrade cost was worth the performance difference.I have both. Got the Focus first, then snatched an Audience later. Note that the frequency response of the 42 is from 53hz-28khz while the 140 is from 41hz-25khz. Bass is better on the 140 but less kalansing than the 42. Dito lang angat si 42, but at others especially on vocals, angat talaga si 140.
If the difference is mainly on bass department maybe I'm better off with adding a subwoofer. Or?
Thanks for any advice.
Sherwin
Best for you to go from Audience to the Contour Line. You will enjoy it a lot if you like music. I still have my 42 and my 50 and they are very good already however if what you are looking for is more finesse in the mid and treble departments then I suggest the Contour. So happy that its been my main stereo speakers for the last 8 years.
Now to move up another level then add a very good sub to the Contour and you will probably have a system that can handle anything from AC/DC to Norah Jones.
I have both. Got the Focus first, then snatched an Audience later. Note that the frequency response of the 42 is from 53hz-28khz while the 140 is from 41hz-25khz. Bass is better on the 140 but less kalansing than the 42. Dito lang angat si 42, but at others especially on vocals, angat talaga si 140.I have another set of speakers - Dali Zensor 3. Mas makalansing yung Zensors kesa sa 42s. But I prefer the refined treble of the 42s. I'm not sure if further reduced 'kalansing' will suit me though. Your observation is consistent with what I've been reading about the focus line versus audience/excite line so far - Focus tweeters are more laid back due to additional coating.
Any user of the dyne emit m20 here? Can these be driven by a marantz pm6005?6 ohms naman yung emit series so kung hindi masyadong malaki yung room, pwede naman. i have emit 10 driven by exposure 2010s2 at 75w per channel, hindi lumalagpas sa 10 o'clock yung volume ko when listening.
Thanks
Try contacting Listening in Style since they distribute Dynaudio.
Listening in Style
Unit 537, Main Wing Shangri-La Plaza, EDSA Corner Shaw Boulevard, Mandaluyong, 1550 Metro Manila, Philippines
+63 2 632 9785
Bnew Emit 10, Pre-owned Excite x12 or DM 2/7..hmm. what to choose?
I have auditioned Excite x12 and i'm not quite settled with it.
plinius matches well with dyns.. i got a pre owned plinius 9100.. very good condition.. price to sell.. pm me for details..
:)
budget amp for dyns, sa yamaha as500 ako >:D
they have a contour s5.4 in shang :).A good match for your plinius i guess. :)
Dynes just announced the Special Forty BS . To be priced as 3k Euros.
If international release date is June, kailan kaya dadating dito sa PH?
Magkano po SRP ng Emit M10?
TIA
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The evoke series has the new tweeter design, magkano kaya srp sa tin?
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According to a distributor I asked, around 100k to 350k daw?
Kamusta kaya ang sound ng Evoke 20 may nakarinig na ba?
Kamusta kaya ang sound ng Evoke 20 may nakarinig na ba?Magkano kuha mo sa evoke 20 sir? Have you tried comparing it to s40?
Just upgraded my old audience52SE with evoke 20. Sounds great with deep bass, i had it paired with rotel amp 200 watts on 8 ohms.
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hello
anu kya okay or match na amplifier for dynaudio x18?
(tube o Solid state o hybrid)
:) ;) :D ;D
110 k yup side by side sila ng sp 40 medyo mahirap idescribe kasi magkaiba sila its just a matter if personal preference. Kasama ko si misis nung binili ko pinili niya evoke ako naman di maka decide kaya siya ang nagwagi. Special 40 maganda ang highs but evoke is also good. Mas swabe lang ang evoke for me overall. Main consideration ko talaga is the mid woofer design ng evoke which is based on contour although diff magnet. Mas malalim ang frame ng evoke kumpara sa sp 40 kaya mas less chance mag bottom up pag sinagad sa bass.
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Natry mo compare sir with the Contour 20?
Sad to say hinde kasi above budget ko ang contour 20 layo ng presyo from the two.
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totoo pala hard to drive ang dynaudio speaker.
:) ;) :D ;D
testing ko dynaudio excite x18 sa
1st. as pc speaker 2.0 (emotiva stealth dc1 and marantz mm7025) - no good
2nd. testing ko sa tube amp na ordinary hi fi (kt88) - no good
3rd. musical fidelity x series (xpre, xdac, x10d, xa50 monoblock power amp, 50watts) - ng improve good
4th. musical fidelity a300 with xdac and x10d - better than the 1st three
5th. Audiolab 8300cdq and 8300mb (pre and monoblock power amp 250watts) - ng improve pa
6th. combo hybrid Musical fidelity xpre, x10d xdac and audiolab 8300mb - best happy me
(speaker wire use - dynamique , ic xlo and transparent musiclink
Ive got the best setup wth flac/lossless audio via optical to Marantz AVR. Vocals FTW!
Sad to say hinde kasi above budget ko ang contour 20 layo ng presyo from the two.
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Sir kamusta Evoke after the Break-in Period?
So far okay naman i decided to have it tested side by side with my old paradigm studio 20 v5 layo na ng sound ng evoke you wont need a sub kung music lang ang iplay mo plus the highs are sweet. Just using internet radio via wifi and sound is very good but if you play audiophile CD ganda!
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Nice hehe sana magkaron pa ng marami reviews..or may dealer na magpaHome Demo haha
To get the best from any Dyne you have to power them adequately, feed them from a clean source and most importantly if you can swing it...have the Dynes perform in a treated room.
Agree medyo hinay hinay lang sa base kasi yung dating audience 52 SE nag bOttom up when driven by a home theater receiver in a movie with heavy base effect. I replaced it with evoke 20 with deeper driver and large enclosure para resistant sa bottoming up kasi for me i really like the tweeter of dyns hirap idescribe why i loved how it sounds.
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Agree medyo hinay hinay lang sa base kasi yung dating audience 52 SE nag bOttom up when driven by a home theater receiver in a movie with heavy base effect. I replaced it with evoke 20 with deeper driver and large enclosure para resistant sa bottoming up kasi for me i really like the tweeter of dyns hirap idescribe why i loved how it sounds.
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Do you have pre outs sir sa receiver? If you have, maybe you can considered buying a separate power amp for the front channels?
Unfortunately, panels will only improve your highs and some of the mids. If blocking the ports is not enough, you will need bass traps to take care of of your room mode, and these are usually big and bulky. A better solution might be to get a DSP and reduce the room modes more effectively.
congrats sir sa dyns..
Thanks sir! ibang iba yung sound signature ng dynaudio compared sa b&w na gamit ko. Parang mas cohesive at relaxed sounding yung dyns, mas realistic. Although ang layo din naman kasi ng price kasi yung entry level model gamit ko na b&w dati.at new model pa! special forty..!! ive heard b&w, medyo bright sa pandinig ko, pero nung na audition ko mga dyns, excite,contour,consequence, & evidence model, much refined tunog at punchy tight base..sweet nman ang esotar tweeter, demanding nga lang sa amp, power hungry.. ano sir amp gamit nyo?
at new model pa! special forty..!! ive heard b&w, medyo bright sa pandinig ko, pero nung na audition ko mga dyns, excite,contour,consequence, & evidence model, much refined tunog at punchy tight base..sweet nman ang esotar tweeter, demanding nga lang sa amp, power hungry.. ano sir amp gamit nyo?
sir, for room acoustics, may i recommend Tony Rodriguez. He is not that active here you can search his name in FB.
Entry level na amp sir, Emotiva TA100 pre amp with A300 power amp. 150w/ch. Hindi ko pa kasi ma test properly itong setup kasi ang liit ng room kung saan naka lagay itong speakers. Kelangan ko ng mas malaking space talaga para malamanif ever you will upgrade the amp, best pair the special forty with the new krell k300i..!! may option din sya ng additional phono & dac.. ^-^
if ever you will upgrade the amp, best pair the special forty with the new krell k300i..!! may option din sya ng additional phono & dac.. ^-^
i believe 'audio pursuit', merun dun.. ;)
Wow that amp is 20x the price of my current amp haha. Right now my room is the bottleneck in my system so I will upgrade once I get a bigger listening space. thanks for the suggestion sirkayang-kaya mo un sir... ;) or accuphase e-380, match na match sa dyns special forty, sa dac, dcs bartok, powercord ay shunyata, for speaker cables & interconnects transparent ultra gen.5 series..
sale ang special 40's ngayonmagkano daw sir..?
:) ;) :D ;D
85,000.00 :) ;) :D ;Dwow!! almost 50% off..!! audio pursuit ba sir ang name ng shop..?
ECQ sale, message sa akin
yup audio pursuitsabi na, kay sir junior na tindahan..
:) ;) :D ;D
limited slot
without stand.
sale pala ah.. :)Ano pang ginagawa mo? Hahaha
Ano pang ginagawa mo? Hahahalangya, gang dito eh..haha
Mga Master,
Will a plinius inspire 980 sufficient to power a Dynaudio Contour 1.4 LE. My roo is 6x6m, and tend to play loud once in while.
Thanks!
di pa nagrereport yung bagong may Special Forty dito ah...Congrats ha! >:D 8) :)pinasyalan daw kanina at pinicturan.. diko lang alam kung nabiyabit pauwi..
pinasyalan daw kanina at pinicturan.. diko lang alam kung nabiyabit pauwi..
binitbit bro, nag send pa pic eh..hahakaya pala tahimik sa forum.., ine-enjoy na bagong special forty.. hindi un matutulog ngayun gabi.. ;D ;D
kaya pala tahimik sa forum.., ine-enjoy na bagong special forty.. hindi un matutulog ngayun gabi.. ;D ;D
nkew.. delikads, sa speaker yan..
mahirap ba drive ang M20? or di lang talaga match sa cambridge cxa80 yan?dapat kaya yan ng cxa80 kasi maliit lng na bookshelf si emit 20..
dapat kaya yan ng cxa80 kasi maliit lng na bookshelf si emit 20..
so amp ba may problem bro?tingin ko lang speaker..
tingin ko lang speaker..
ung speaker ko rated 300 watts @ 8 ohms
amp ko rated 150 watts @ 8ohms, halos kalahati,
pero nung 75% volume ko nung new year, lusaw ang vifa tweeter, iba ata pagka adjust sa tweak between woofer & tweeter, so sa dynes, bka may nag pop, sira speakers.. parang may naputok kpag nilaksan at malakas bigay ng bass..
Baka kasi dahil 4 ohms usually ang dynes, kaya need ng powerful na amp?
tingin ko lang speaker..
ung speaker ko rated 300 watts @ 8 ohms
amp ko rated 150 watts @ 8ohms, halos kalahati,
pero nung 75% volume ko nung new year, lusaw ang vifa tweeter, iba ata pagka adjust sa tweak between woofer & tweeter, so sa dynes, bka may nag pop, sira speakers.. parang may naputok kpag nilaksan at malakas bigay ng bass..
That popping sound is most likely the voice coil former hitting something, basically it is moving too far for what it was designed to do. The 300 watts rating is most likely at 1000Khz, so take the power rating with a grain of salt, unless the specs tell you 300 watts from 20hz to 20,000Khz. Once you hear that "popping" sound, reduce the volume levelsso in shoktong's case, speaker may problem, not the cxa80..
sharing lang po ang bagong ayuda ni kapitan SP40 ;D ;D
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Baka kasi dahil 4 ohms usually ang dynes, kaya need ng powerful na amp?Cambridge CXA 80 is powerful enough for the Dynaudio M20. I used to use a CXA 60 to power my M20's but later on I got a NAD C368.
Cambridge CXA 80 is powerful enough for the Dynaudio M20. I used to use a CXA 60 to power my M20's but later on I got a NAD C368.
sir kamusta CXA-60 sa M20 maganda ba matching nila?Maganda naman though the NAD is a slightly better match. When I auditioned the M20 they also paired it with a NAD C388 and I thought that it sounded better than when powered by the Plinius (don't know the model sorry) amp.
Maganda naman though the NAD is a slightly better match. When I auditioned the M20 they also paired it with a NAD C388 and I thought that it sounded better than when powered by the Plinius (don't know the model sorry) amp.
kasama ba sa sale 50% off ung excite floorstanders..?
lahat bro..50% off. :)wow..!! sayang kulang budget ko sa x34.. :'(
lahat bro..50% off. :)Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.
Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.
Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.ganda review ng crunchfield sa evoke 20..!! sana ibalik na ang lotto para makataya.. ^-^
anong amp sir ginamit mo?Gamit kong amp sa Evoke 20 ay Vintage hi end separate Sony TA-2000F pre amp with matching Sony TA-3200F power amp, 100wpc @ 8 ohms
ganda review ng crunchfield sa evoke 20..!! sana ibalik na ang lotto para makataya.. ^-^Maganda ang Evoke 20 bro, nasiyahan ako, malaki ang improvement kaysa sa dati kong Dynaudio Audience 52.
Sir me contour din na 50% offMeron yata Contour, lahat less 50%
Anu fb nilaaudio pursuit
Gamit kong amp sa Evoke 20 ay Vintage hi end separate Sony TA-2000F pre amp with matching Sony TA-3200F power amp, 100wpc @ 8 ohms
Pakinig naman sa Evoke 20 nyo hehehehe...
wow! yung Rega Elicit R na try nyo ba sa kanya sir?
kayo po ba yung taga Las Pinas/Paranaque kasi nung deliver yung Evoke 20 ko sa bahay may isang box silang hahatid na Evoke 20 din sa lugar na yun.
Yup taga Paranaque ako bro Sa akin nga iyon. Galing daw sila sa Binan.
wow! yung Rega Elicit R na try nyo ba sa kanya sir?
kayo po ba yung taga Las Pinas/Paranaque kasi nung deliver yung Evoke 20 ko sa bahay may isang box silang hahatid na Evoke 20 din sa lugar na yun.
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
oo naman brader..ikaw pa haha.. :)
Yup taga Paranaque ako bro Sa akin nga iyon. Galing daw sila sa Binan.congrats sa inyo sabay pala dumating ang Evoke 20 natin. :)
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
Medyo kulang ng budget sa Elicit bro....Ipon mode muna.
pero na try nyo sir sa Elicit R sir?Di ko na try sa Rega Elicit bro...Feeling ko mas gusto ng evoke ng mas powerful amp.
pero na try nyo sir sa Elicit R sir?Paano ginawa mo bro sa Acurus A100? Di po ba amp din yan Acurus? Konektado ang Acurus sa Nad amp?
Paano ginawa mo bro sa Acurus A100? Di po ba amp din yan Acurus? Konektado ang Acurus sa Nad amp?
yung CXN ko via coax kinabit ko sa NAD C388 then may pre-out si NAD C388 dun ko kinabit ang Acurus Power amp ko bro. :)Ah okey bro bale ang nagdridrive na amp ay Acurus A100.
Ah okey bro bale ang nagdridrive na amp ay Acurus A100.
yes! DAC/Pre amp si NAD C388. :)Ano mas maganda SQ bro Nad c388 o Acurus A100?
Ano mas maganda SQ bro Nad c388 o Acurus A100?NAD C388 hands down, pero pag pinagsama silang dalawa mas maganda combo nila..mas may detailed sya para sa akin at mas may kiliti ang highs nya at yung bass nya nakalansing na din hahaha..kaya nga di ko mabaklas ulit eh. :)
NAD C388 hands down, pero pag pinagsama silang dalawa mas maganda combo nila..mas may detailed sya para sa akin at mas may kiliti ang highs nya at yung bass nya nakalansing na din hahaha..kaya nga di ko mabaklas ulit eh. :)Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.
Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.yes. :)
Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.
NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.Maganda na pala ang Class D amp. I heard that Nad C388 is a class D amp.
NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.
chief ask ko lang how about yung CXA-60 sa M20 maganda din ba?Maganda din though I felt that the bass became better when I got the NAD C368. When I got an Audioquest power cable (reasonably priced around 6k only) during the last HiFi show at Dusit it seemed to make the CXA 60 seem more powerful, parang at par na siya with the C368.
Maganda din though I felt that the bass became better when I got the NAD C368. When I got an Audioquest power cable (reasonably priced around 6k only) during the last HiFi show at Dusit it seemed to make the CXA 60 seem more powerful, parang at par na siya with the C368.
Di ko na try sa Rega Elicit bro...Feeling ko mas gusto ng evoke ng mas powerful amp.
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.best paired to dynes was krell k-300i ^-^
;D
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.I thinks sir Luis 50wpc @ 8 ohms then 75wpc @ 4 ohms yata yun Audiolab 6000A.
;D
I thinks sir Luis 70 watts yata yun Audiolab 6000A.last 2016 i heard audiolab 6000a with bowers & wilkins bookshelves.. good combo w/ audiolab cd player.. ^-^
last 2016 i heard audiolab 6000a with bowers & wilkins bookshelves.. good combo w/ audiolab cd player.. ^-^Tama ka sir
plinius hautonga int. amp match din yan sa dynes bookshelves.. ;)
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.
;D
uy mahanap nga yan..thanks! :)Narinig ko yan sa Youtube bro mondi. Maganda tunog sa pandinig ko with a 50 watts Audiolab 6000A amp.
Narinig ko yan sa Youtube bro mondi. Maganda tunog sa pandinig ko with a 50 watts Audiolab 6000A amp.ayos panalo.. :)
Sharing feedback from x18 buyer.Very nice to hear that.
Good pm po! Re: matching of x18 and cxa60. After woofer break-in i can now properly listen and evaluate and no longer need to crank up the volume. Sound is detailed yet not harsh , with excellent separation of the instruments. Volume dial is same when i had wharfe diamond 220 which is at between 9 to 10 oclock just 1/4.probably before going max volume
Yes full bodied and balanced.l across freqs
;D
Sharing feedback from x18 buyer.
Good pm po! Re: matching of x18 and cxa60. After woofer break-in i can now properly listen and evaluate and no longer need to crank up the volume. Sound is detailed yet not harsh , with excellent separation of the instruments. Volume dial is same when i had wharfe diamond 220 which is at between 9 to 10 oclock just 1/4.probably before going max volume
Yes full bodied and balanced.l across freqs
;D
Mga master,
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
Kimber Cable 8TC. I use it on my Special 40. Good combination with Dynaudio. Surprised you find yours warm. If anything, Dynaudio are supposed to sound clean, umcolored, clinical (what I like). Some would even find an amp for that warm Brit sound.
TIA.
QED SA XT has been my allrounder speaker cable > among them Mordaunt Short ms20 kef coda7, b&w601s2, b&w602s2, B&Gradia3 with neo3, diy with neo10s/neo3s , epos m5, victor vintage speakers before; now sa Mordaunt Short ms10i, onkyo d-n8, kefls50 and castle knight1; atbp.
mag match kaya sa dynaudio audience42 (if ever?) 86db 4ohms ?
may nagamit na rin ako ibang cables - chord carnival, vdh, kimber, ecosse cs2.3, pati ung napakabigat parang garden hose na straightwire virtuoso ata
Mga master,dynaudio contour 1.4 best suited with transparent plus speaker cable (gen.5) 2.5m, if budget permit.. i heard them @ LIS before & sir jr. along w/ mike gamboa told me the combo reveals the true authentic signature sound of the dynes without any colouration as compare to other cables..
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
TIA.
dynaudio contour 1.4 best suited with transparent plus speaker cable (gen.5) 2.5m, if budget permit.. i heard them @ LIS before & sir jr. along w/ mike gamboa told me the combo reveals the true authentic signature sound of the dynes without any colouration as compare to other cables..
ohh, before i forgot, make some room treatment for audible result.. ^-^
Agree. Now, let me go find those Transparent cables again.audiohub ph. merun sir.. i think audio pursuit also..
audiohub ph. merun sir.. i think audio pursuit also..Meron na ako, hindi ko lang maalala saan ko tinago..
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh
Correct
+1
cable are just 5% emphasis on the whole system, buying the expensive ones gives us a huge wealth of emotion although it is just really deceiving us ;D
these are just my 2cents
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh though its not the end all and be all for Dynaudio'sYes bro Hector tama ka.
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Also if you are using Brand X as your cable...the internal speaker cables (speaker terminals to passive xover to driver) and coaxial RCA or balanced cables should be replaced as well with the same brand/series to get best results. End to end tawag nila dun sa mod na yun.
Chosuey naman term ng local audiophiles sa system na iba iba brand ng cables from CDP to Pre to Amp to Speakers ;D . Nothing wrong with it if the systems delivers the expected results
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh though its not the end all and be all for Dynaudio's
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Also if you are using Brand X as your cable...the internal speaker cables (speaker terminals to passive xover to driver) and coaxial RCA or balanced cables should be replaced as well with the same brand/series to get best results. End to end tawag nila dun sa mod na yun.
Chosuey naman term ng local audiophiles sa system na iba iba brand ng cables from CDP to Pre to Amp to Speakers ;D . Nothing wrong with it if the systems delivers the expected results
+1
cable are just 5% emphasis on the whole system, buying the expensive ones gives us a huge wealth of emotion although it is just really deceiving us ;D
these are just my 2cents
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
To give an idea of my system:
Contour s1.4 le (a dyna known to be darker than the rest.)
Rel T7 Sub
Hegel H190 (this is a new one; having shifted from a Plinius SA 300. I like the hegel better by lot).
Cambrigde CXN
Cables -- QED SA Silver / Mogami
The room is semi treated with sound deadening panels.
Mga master,
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
TIA.
Hi Alvin,
I dont have a link to it but I sent an email back in 2010 to Dynaudio asking for the same thing....what is their recommendation for cabling Dynes. I usually get recommendations from the manufacturer instead of Forums. By doing so I get it from the guys that really know the product. I wasnt expecting an answer but surprisingly they replied. They didn't point out a brand for me to buy but instead they gave a very diplomatic answer: "any properly designed cable with low resistance will do" but they specifically mentioned that they use an inexpensive brand which is OCOS in tuning and cabling the speakers internally. Owediah was asking for the optimal cabling of his A42 which is a model that is around that production period. Madaming members ng Audiogon are still loyal to OCOS cables.
Add to that there no technological break through or advancements in Cables. Been the same for the last 20 years. No need to go with the Jonases on whats new for 2021 for cables. Same thing yan...same material...just wrapped up in a new sleeve and given flowery reviews by sponsored writers.
For VDH you need to go all the way otherwise the result is hit and miss. I went end to end with VDH back in 2011 (CPD, Pre, Amp and speaker cables). Mawawala yung extreme bite ng High Freq while the bass and mid will be more pronounced. Thats was the result with Classe. YMMV though
Agree with this. But at the same time, I have had experience that cables matter when already have the main items down pat. Matching cables with systems need not be expensive.
What would you recommend ?
No problem with old cables (with the exception of oxidation of cu ), just really interested on internal wirings of speakers and amps... e.g. higher end models of Totem use pure silver, but surprisingly, they went with platinum plated WBT binding posts instead of silver. Anyway, problem with OCOS is that its not readily available anymore.
I never tried DYNS but I have SONUS FABER Signums w/c is also very hard to drive, cables linking them to the amps are VDH "The Wind" (from J.R. also ;D , a mere 27yrs ago to be exact), they're old kinds but in pure silver, brings out the punch & adds a lightness to the warm side. As for the warmth you want to tame, silver internal cables usually does the job for that than the copper ones. I'm not familiar w/ the QED XT Silver Anniversary if they have pure silver internals I think it would have done the job already.
The Transparent Cable they are recommending would also help probably coz they have those network boxes w/c contains a network of small coils & resistors circuity to smooth out the SQ. The best way is to test trial & error but that's if they allow to lend their speaker cable or maybe bring the speakers to the desired store.
My VDH set came from the man himself as well....JR Pecauco. Yun lang it isnt silver but Hybrid carbon. Yung bagong labas nila Carbon Nano Tube material na. Zero metal in its construction. It probably costs as much as a car and the brochure will probably state that "you will hear angels singing in your listening room" ;D
My VDH set came from the man himself as well....JR Pecauco. Yun lang it isnt silver but Hybrid carbon. Yung bagong labas nila Carbon Nano Tube material na. Zero metal in its construction. It probably costs as much as a car and the brochure will probably state that "you will hear angels singing in your listening room" ;D
Salamat po, sir. Any mid-range speaker system that you could suggest that would have a satisfying base for rock music without the need for a subwoofer?
How big is the room? enclosed or open type? target amp that you will use?
Heard both and owned so many dyns i still consider dyns
Salamat po. Would hunt for some 52's. Also thinking of Q acoustics 3050i. Mukhang ok naman po review. If budget permits, would love to scratch the Dyne itch. Salamat po uli.
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
Oh my.. :o :o
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
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ang dami nga sale kahit dito eh, nakuha ng 50% off tapos benta mas mataas...hahaha ;D ::) >:D
Has anyone tried Rega amps and Dynaudio speakers? I'm planning on upgrading my amp this year and was able to demo the Rega Elicit-R and like it a lot with my special fortiesWhat are you currently using now and what are your other choices?
What are you currently using now and what are your other choices?
I've had the Rega Elicit and SP40, and it was a fun exciting brand of listen, though the Elicit will recess the mids. I personally preferred a 30w class A Pioneer M22, as it sounded much cleaner and the mids a bit more forward.
That said, you should go for what you've heard and liked, rather than anyone tell you that you need tubes, or more power, etc.
I didn't get listening fatigue, but my tolerance is high except for Musical Fidelity for some reason ;D.
As for heat, it does get hot if you use it more than 2-3 hours at high volume without aircon, but never experienced thermal shutdown.
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
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Sarado na Audio Pursuits....
Ang bilis ah :(
Sarado na Audio Pursuits....
Ang bilis ah :(
Sorry, it's been a while since I 've heard an AS3000. I actually like the Yammies as they have the mid meatiness that I prefer though some of my friends found it too boring. Given your preference with the Rega, you might find it too boring as well, but perhaps the latest models have changed.
*Add: You might want to look at Plinius as well; while it doesn't have VUs of the Yamaha, it does look solid and they have a mild curve at the bass and treble which gives Dynes a bit of fresh air without losing the mids too much. Plus the bass textures are quite superb, among the best I've heard.
Tried Rega, m fidelity and plinius over time, and finslly settled with a hegel for my contour s1.4 le.
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who carries hegel and plinius? Dati meron si audio pursuits but i found out about them during the pandemic and they didnt open their showroom na. Hegel is carried by architectural audio ba?dati sa listening in style kaso sarado na, checkout at AVDI.. pm their facebook page.. ^-^
Would HegeI H95 with 65w/ch be okay for sp40s? or would you recommend something else.
Panalo yang Hegel sa SP40, go for H390. No regrets. Hindi nakaka sawang makinig.
yup! teka bulungan mo ako sa Hegel mo ah pag sawa ka na.. ;D ::)
ahehihohuh yan bro..binulong ko na 😆
Who is the Authorized Distributor of Dynaudio and contact info, please.
Thanks
Made in China.. :'(
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What model?
Yan na ung mga bago? May mga nakita akong mga Made in Denmark na Evoke 10 and 20 but unang labas pa.
is Dynaudio XEO 2 still a good buy for 2022 onwards?
If the price and condition is fair...any Dynaudio for that matter is a good buy and will serve you for years to come. My Dynes have been with me for almost 18 years na. Yes I forked out a lot when I acquired them but each time I use them I never got the urge to replace them. For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market. I auditioned a few just out of curiosity and while I was impressed, I walked away saying to myself that it was the house sound of Dynaudio that I heard....something that hasn't changed for years.heritage special na upgrade mo sir..!! :D
The only time I will probably replace my old model Dynes is when I get an opportunity to go after a Special model or a step up in the model range.
If the price and condition is fair...any Dynaudio for that matter is a good buy and will serve you for years to come. My Dynes have been with me for almost 18 years na. Yes I forked out a lot when I acquired them but each time I use them I never got the urge to replace them. For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market. I auditioned a few just out of curiosity and while I was impressed, I walked away saying to myself that it was the house sound of Dynaudio that I heard....something that hasn't changed for years.
The only time I will probably replace my old model Dynes is when I get an opportunity to go after a Special model or a step up in the model range.
For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market.
True, I was searching for reviews on Dynaudio and one review compared the older model vs the new one. The frequency response is virtually identical. sadly I forgot the model, but it was bookshelf mode in the Audience or Emit range
I still have the Special 25 which I bought in 2005. Last year June, I added the Heritage Special. The Heritage is more detailed and dynamic compared to the 25s. Comparing the sound quality, the 25 is great for background music while the Heritage is for serious listening. Bass is more from the 25 while mids and highs are preferred from the Heritage.magkano kuha mo boss sa heritage special..? 2 lang ata available dito sa pinas nyan ah.. ::)
Both models prefer more power if using Class A/B amplification. For Class A watts, however, even 25 wpc, drive both models loud enough for me.
grabe pricing ng bago stocks ng430k message sakin & less 5% in cash or online payment ng heritage special.. sakit sa bulsang butas.. :'( :'(
heritage special. from 380k to 430k for the new stocks.
430k message sakin & less 5% in cash or online payment ng heritage special.. sakit sa bulsang butas.. :'( :'(
ga-bundok na niyog kelangan simutin at maipagbili pra lang sa speeaker.. ;D
Bili kana parekoy baka tumaas
Ulit srp.😁
ga-bundok na niyog kelangan simutin at maipagbili pra lang sa speeaker.. ;D
pero naisip ko lang setup:
dynaudio heritage special- P430k (less 5%)
Luxman 509x- P479k
aurender A200- P300k
Luxman D-03x- P186.94
Nordost Heimdal 2- P91k (sp) P46.8k ((int. rca)
ISOTEK V5 Aquarius- P150k
ISOTEK Elite- P41.34(x 2pcs)
ISOTEK OPTIMUM- P62.14k
Dynaudio Plate & Stand- P31.2k
total: P1,859,760 :o dyosko po rudy..
Pre tanggalin mo na yung plate ang luho molahat ng yan 1 price ng vitus amp mo sir.. :D
Naman😆
Kaya mo yan bro. Actually kailangan mo pa ilagay sa isang optimized room yan so you get to squeeze all the performance it can deliver. Kung may spare room ka dyan eh pwedeng gastusan mo na yung room ng 500K including A/C, basic treatments, lighting, carpet, media storage and a good listening chair.mag dilang anghel ka sana sir.., tama ka sir, kelangan pa ng dedicated acoustically treated room.. another 200k! aabutin pala mga 2m..
mag dilang anghel ka sana sir.., tama ka sir, kelangan pa ng dedicated acoustically treated room.. another 200k! aabutin pala mga 2m..
ngii..!
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig mofor that 2m.. ::) wilson audio sabrina (1st gen) + boulder 866 int amp pasok din, bitin sa budget sa cables (transparent) ::)
for that 2m.. ::) wilson audio sabrina (1st gen) + boulder 866 int amp pasok din, bitin sa budget sa cables (transparent) ::)
dami mo nman speakers.., ung dynaudio consequence medyo bright sa pandinig ko, ung confidence c4 pakiramdam ko pinipisa dibdib ko gawa ng tight bass.. (sa listening in style room) ???
Yes pre. Masyado overprice na dynaudio. Nakinig ako nung bago nila confidence
C30 pre hindi ko gusto talaga, wilson the best yan pinagsisihan ko hanggang
Ngayun pag benta ko ng sasha 2 pero end game sa akin raidho, yg acoustics.
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig motempting ung bago ng dyns na emit 30 floorstanding loudspeaker! maganda mga reviews.. only downside, made in china.. :D
dami mo nman speakers.., ung dynaudio consequence medyo bright sa pandinig ko, ung confidence c4 pakiramdam ko pinipisa dibdib ko gawa ng tight bass.. (sa listening in style room) ???
ung wilson audio alexia 1 parang live performance sa piano..!
alexia 1 boss nadinig ko nuon, sa raidho acoustics AAVIK amp ata bagay, sa yg acoustics, Krell amp bagay..(illusion ll xd series o k300i int) ::)
Wala pa ako raidho at yg. Pangarap pa lang bro. Tama ka alexia 2
Narinig ko napaka ganda speakers tumunog napaka taas lang
Ng resale ng wilson.
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig mo
tempting ung bago ng dyns na emit 30 floorstanding loudspeaker! maganda mga reviews.. only downside, made in china.. :D
The reviews are very good for the new Emit 30. Kahit naman made in China na, components and technology are still Denmark.kahit assembled in china, sa qc sila bumawi.. :D pero napadikit padin sa word/country na "china" ;D
Got a pm from dynaudio manila, dipa pala ngmumura price ng confidence 20, bnew P780k srp.. :'(
Is the Revival sold locally?
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try mo revival audio atalante. according to some a "giant killer" itongyung mag partner pala ng revival audio ay dating empleyado ng dynaudio.. ;D ;D chief designer engineer.. ;D
bagong brand na ito. me nabasa ako na mas gusto nya yung atalante 3
vs dynaudio heritage.
May bagong labas ang Dynaudio..!! :D
Lumabas na ba?uu..! 3 modelo! Ung isa parang floorstand na heritage special