Pero parang mas credible ang mga newscaster ng GMA kasi yung mga taga ABS-CBN, pumapasok sa politika (Noli, Ted, Loren, Gilbert Remulla...) ang kaso lumipat si Karen Davila and Mari Kaimo sa ABS-CBN, so naging ok na rin ang news team nila. Tapos mas ok panoorin ang News Central. But then again, pagdating sa investigative journalism, lamang ang GMA.
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?
Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel
Meron bang mga channels under GMA?
Meron bang mga channels under GMA?
Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television. Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability. Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it comes to international awards eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
Ang problema ko lang eh tuwing umaga. Since I want to see Unang Hirit's Rhea Santos and MUB's resident weather girl Angela, palipat-lipat ako palagi. Pag wala sa camera si Rhea, lipat naman sa MUB to wait for Angela. ;D
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
http://www.asiantvawards.com/winners02a.htm
http://www.asiantvawards.com/winners02a.htm
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television. Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability. Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it come to international award eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
According to Asian Business News, the Philippines ranks low in terms of professionalism compared to counterparts in Asia. I also question many of the awards given, especially those given to documentaries. The rest I don't bother with because they are awards for logos.
For example, look at hour-long "documentaries" produced by local networks. Their reporters talk in loud voices, lift soundbites from interviewees, and discuss what is obvious. They're very similar to Fox News reports, which sensationalize, use flashy graphics and music, and often deal with the controversial.Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television. Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability. Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it come to international award eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS
I beg to differ, I think you havent heard of the other international awards the most recent (I cant remember the name of that award) was received by the show Correspondent besting the rest of Media organization from around the world including american networks like CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS also BBC. They got the award from covering the Afghanistan takeover from the Taliban Ive seen that episode it really deserves that kind of merit.
That is something that we should be proud of specially if you think that logistically the team was no match for the big networks like those of CNN and BBC but still they delivered.
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS
I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.
No dice...ABS-CBN! Sila ang tunay na pioneers way back pre-Martial Law era at hanggang ngayon,sila lamang ang may TFC na napapanood globally.
Star Value?Tinatanong pa ba yan?!!! :D
According to Asian Business News, the Philippines ranks low in terms of professionalism compared to counterparts in Asia.
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When I was a kid I used to get irritated when cartoon shows I watched were not shown at the exact time as scheduled (usually at least 10-15 minutes late).
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for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS
I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.
Rmn your point is valid but you see it work both ways. I don't know if you or the others here have noticed that when there is a controversy hounding the Lopezes the owner of ABS-CBN especially if its negative, GMA consciously or unconsciously gives extra air time to it in a bias manner. The last time I noticed it was when the Lopezes decided to gave up Maynilad, GMA’s reporting is too obviously unbalanced which try to paint them as greedy. They even conveniently did not mention the fact that 90% of MWSS loans where shouldered by Maynilad. Plus the fact that many waterless areas in Metro have been given water by Maynilad.
So all networks have interest, even GMAs owners have them, worst pa nga kasi GMA is owned by 3 families so the interest are multiplied by 3 pa diba. And besides ni hindi nga sila public unlike ABS-CBN so talagang private ang GMA which is more prone to abuse.
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?
Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel
Meron bang mga channels under GMA?
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.
I don't see your point about ABS being a "public" company. ABS is still controlled by the Lopezes and not the stockholders.
Wala naman say ang public sa propaganda na inilalabas ng ABS eh. I don't agree with you when you say that GMA is biased when covering the issue about Maynilad. It's really a big issue and they covered it well. They didn't add anything in the coverage that wasn't true. They just reported the news. Unlike ABS which always has a political slant to it's coverage.
Your comments about the winnability of the ABS news anchors is really silly. I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network. Their news programs are nothing more than political propaganda shows. Just because the news anchors of ABS are more popular does not mean they are better. Matuto na kayo. Popularity and winnability does not necessarily mean that one is the best. Just look at the 2 most popular and/or winnable political figures, Erap and FPJ. Sikat nga ang ABS, pero GMA pa rin ako. 2nd place sa popularity, pero mas may quality. Hindi pang masa ang dating.
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?
Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel
Meron bang mga channels under GMA?
Ano naman ang kinalaman ng ibang channel ng ABS? Di ba ABS or GMA lang ang pinag uusapan? Maybe youd like to start another thread, yung para sa ibang channels naman. Taga ABS ka ba?
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay ;D
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.
Kung pambili ng helicopter,wala nga ang GMA... pang-global na ala TFC pa?!
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.
Well, of course the reason they operate is because of profit, else why bother?
But there are also other ways where these stations can maintain an "on-time" schedule. I guess it would be understandable for endorsers that if a particular program rates, ABS, GMA or any other station can always charge a bigger fee for the airtime (a 30-second commercial for Superbowl costs $2M in the U.S. because they know that it rates... endorsers even make spectacular brand new commercials for this event yearly).
Unfortunately, things aren't quite the same here... and I doubt if it ever will. Maybe it's due to management decisions regarding charging? Maybe it's be because of our culture as it is? I dunno... but for sure it s**ks! >:(
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay ;D
LOL bakit naka-block? Pati Studio 23 at SkyCABLE? Paano yan connected rin sila sa Meralco, Bayantel at Maynilad?
Our local networks just don't give a damn and have no respect for their viewers.
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS
I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.
Rmn your point is valid but you see it work both ways. I don't know if you or the others here have noticed that when there is a controversy hounding the Lopezes the owner of ABS-CBN especially if its negative, GMA consciously or unconsciously gives extra air time to it in a bias manner. The last time I noticed it was when the Lopezes decided to gave up Maynilad, GMA’s reporting is too obviously unbalanced which try to paint them as greedy. They even conveniently did not mention the fact that 90% of MWSS loans where shouldered by Maynilad. Plus the fact that many waterless areas in Metro have been given water by Maynilad.
So all networks have interest, even GMAs owners have them, worst pa nga kasi GMA is owned by 3 families so the interest are multiplied by 3 pa diba. And besides ni hindi nga sila public unlike ABS-CBN so talagang private ang GMA which is more prone to abuse.
What I meant by public was, ABS-CBN is listed in the stock exchange being so anybody who wants to buy into the company can do so.I know perfectly well what a "public" corporation means. Thank you.
I'm not saying that you can effect change of policy but atleast you can question it and can demand answers.You've just proven my point. All they can do is question policies. What use is that kung hindi sila susundan ng mga Lopez?
Marami pang instance na ganyan nag comment pa dati si Mike Enriquez ng "Amininnnnn...!" (complete with gestures ng finger niya!) ito yung solar eclipse controversy involving ABS, now you tell me is that credible is that balance or at the very least fair? Di na nga siya gwapo umaarte pa siyang parang showbiz reporter na jokla.Parang malayo na yan sa usapan Mr. Big Boy. Do you have something against gays?
I'm not saying popularity translates to credibility ang sinasabi ko lang na hindi porque popular at tumakbo sa politics eh hindi na credible that was just a reaction to one of the post here. And about winability, I'm just trying to point out na kung may pag-asang manalo ang mga anchor ng GMA tatakbo rin yan (pustahan?) but does it mean less credible na sila?Napaka galing mo naman. Alam mo na agad na tatakbo sila. Psychic ka ba? Anyway, I'm not interested in betting on something like that. Napaka babaw.
I don't remember saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS. Saan mo nabasa yun? Baka gusto mo balikan ang post ko. Maybe you didn't understand what i posted.
Wala pa lang credibility ang anchors ng ABS then why is GMA continously wooing ABS anchors then? Pati nga si Mel Tiangco kinuha agad nila diba? Ganun pala yung pag nasa ABS walang credibility pag napunta sa GMA instant credibility hehehe.
Hindi pang masa?! Nanonood ka ba ng GMA? Mukha yatang hindi, kung di masa ang mga walang kakwenta-kwenta nilang sitcoms at soaps I dont know what masa is anymore. Joey Marquez at sino ba yun Jong ba yun mga quality pala sila? Isama mo na rin si Clavio sosy pala ang show niya heheheYou've got a point there. Pero mas pang masa ang ABS. Andun si Bayani, Bentong, The whole cast of Home along da Riles. And sino ba ang mas pang masa pa kay Nora?
And one more point during Martial Law ang daming napasarang Media institutions ni Marcos I just wonder why GMA was not closed? Well you figure it out. ;DHuh? Anong kinalaman nyan? Ang hilig mo talaga lumayo sa topic. Labo mo! Sa ibang thread na dapat yan.
"I don't remember saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS. Saan mo nabasa yun? Baka gusto mo balikan ang post ko. Maybe you didn't understand what i posted."
You just proved my point. All they can do is question policies. What use is that kung hindi sila susundan ng mga Lopez?
Parang malayo na yan sa usapan Mr. Big Boy. Do you have something against gays?
Napaka galing mo naman. Alam mo na agad na tatakbo sila. Psychic ka ba? Anyway, I'm not interested in betting on something like that. Napaka babaw.
You've got a point there. Pero mas pang masa ang ABS. Andun si Bayani, Bentong, The whole cast of Home along da Riles. And sino ba ang mas pang masa pa kay Nora?
Regardin Martial Law:
Huh? Anong kinalaman nyan? Ang hilig mo talaga lumayo sa topic. Labo mo! Sa ibang thread na dapat yan.
Eto na lang masasabi ko, parehong may corny ang baduy na programs and ABS and GMA. Pero para sa akin, mas ok ang GMA. Get over it Mr. Big Boy. Wag ka na magtanong kung ayaw mo tanggapin ang opinions ng ibang tao. Gumawa ka ng lang ng thread para sa pro ABS. Peace na lang Mr. ABS CBN.
Let's not get personal here. Please stick to the topic of discussion, or we'll have to lock this thread down. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay ;D
All I'm saying is that news anchors should stick to the news and save the political commentary to themselves. Ok lang kung public affairs program yung hino-host nila. I don't think that's too much to ask for.
I think your the one who does not understand your own post, at ikaw ang dapat bumalik sa post mo. Is this statement not tantamount in saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS? Heres your post and I quote:
"I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network."
If an anchor is working in a propagandist network which you say ABS is, then what are they? Parang mo ng sinabi na hindi catholico ang mga pari who is serving in a Chatholic church, is that possible?
How can u say malayo na sa usapan when you stated na propagandist network ang ABS without any proof, here I am witnessing first hand yung unprofessionalism and bias ni Mr Enriquez tapos malayo sa usapan? Can you be more bias than that? Aren't you the one who said may political slant ang ABS reporting?I said that just to tell you the reason why I prefer GMA.
On the contrary ikaw ang magaling kasi tumakbo lang sila Loren and company naging propagandist na ang ABS. Why can't anchors run if lawyers, doctors can, what makes them different? Bakit di mo sinama sila Mareng Winnie dahil GMA?I didn't say na hindi sila dapat tumakbo and Winnie Monsod is not a news anchor.
Talaga namang "MASA" lahat ng local media, kaya nga "MASS MEDIA" anyone who says otherwise should check the dictionary. I never said na hindi masa ang ABS your the one who claimed that GMA is not masa right?Nagkakamali ka yata. Mass media is not the same as pang Masa na sinasabi ko. Nagpi pilosopo ka na eh.
Natatawa ako sayo your the one who opened up and started the topic about a network being politically slanted and ABS being a propagandist tapos tatanong mo kung ano ang kinalaman ng Martial Law statement ko? Well GMA was kept open by Marcos while the other networks where closed down, just read between the lines ok.So? Ang tagal na nun ha! 2002 na. Aren't we talking about ABS vs. GMA in the present? My point is, that's history already. But if you want to go argue that point, why not mention that Korina Sanchez and Ted Failon were obviously pro Erap.
Anyway Peace and prosperity sa iyo rin Mr. GMA remember:Thank you very much and peace be with you Mr. ABS ;D
Isang Pamilya ;)
Isang Puso :D
Ngayong Pasko ;D
Dear LaserJetDear Mr. Big Boy,
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I hope I did not create an impression to you that I am mad, irrated or whatever where just discussing here infact nakatawa nga ako ng binabasa ko post mo nakakatuwa kasi if your views and comments are being challenge. To Kap Sumbong my apologies if my post bordered or went to being personal, its not intentional and its all in the spirit of fun discussion, thanks.
Question lang po: Where and how do we get the TV ratings? Are they reliable?
This might be slightly OT but to respond to your query:
TV ratings are just like surveys conducted. The ratings company like PSRC (at least during my earlier stint in a tv company, that is what they call their company - Phil Survey & Ratings Co, i think)
As in surveys, PSRC calls up a random sample number of households for a given hour (say 300 households) and ask if their TV is open and what channel they are asking. My understanding was 300 is a representative of the whole televiewing universe. They gather the results and get the percentages. Thats how they used to do it 15 years ago. I would presume that with advances in communications and electronics, this process has been automated already.
This is what they do from early morning until the last show (i think?). The results are not released publicly since this is where they get their income. TV Networks and advertising agencies subscribe to these survey companies to get periodic reports of the survey results. It is up to the networks to release the data to the public (para iyabang just like what ABS does) while the ad agencies use the data to determine which shows they should put their ad money into.
Now, are the results reliable? Well, the appropriate question should be is it credible? If the ad agencies believe them, then it could be credible. AFAIK, TV networks maintain their own survey groups to validate the results they get from the survey companies.
Now back to regular programming ;D
GMA definitely...
The combined efforts of ABS-CBN's public affairs programs cannot match the credibility and talent of Jessica Soho. She's got the Peabody Award (equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism).
The only saving glory for ABS-CBN is the Mexican telenovela Daniella...Hot Hot Hot Daniella!!!
neither both channels suck.
neither both channels suck.
ABS-CBN TFC sucks most OFW's in KSA, subscription is too much but only offer a recycle/ replay shows like Mula Sa Puso etc ( i dont have TFC, ive seen it in my friend's home), the TFC management said it was requested and due to public demand, hehe my a**, they should tell it to the marines! >:(
I think the ratings for the soap block could be credible but for ABS-CBN to dominate the for most of the shows is plainly bogus.
After this survey came out nagalit na si Mr Mike Enriquez and GMA accused SkyCable of sabotage kaya daw bumagsak ratings nila. :)
ang masasabi Gma why?I like there anime maski na paulit ulit ito di pa rin nakakasawa especially Mojacko
and Doraemon!!!!!
maganda daw ang soap opera sa GMA sabi sa probinsiya namin. kaya lang hindi ko ma-compare. ABS-CBN lang kasi mayroon dito. Maganda iyong Kay tagal kitang hinintay. Ang galing ng writer at director. Magaling din stars nila. Mga bago, hindi malalaking artista pero may K.
My favorites, KAren DAvila and Kris Aquino and Ces Drilon.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
GMA is the best for me.
I think their News and Current Affairs is far better than ABS-CBN.
Since News and Magazine shows are the only things i watch on local TV so GMA is it for me.
In my opinion, I think critical acclaim is more important than ratings. To each his own, so let us respect each other's opinion. We are entitled to our own choices and preferences.
GMA for me. Simple lang. No frills. Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, kailanman hindi magiging neutral ang ABS. Kung saan pumunta si Cory, doon ito pupunta. Eh si Cory ang nagpabukas ng ABS. Kaya naman may tie-up ang Philippine Star at ABS di ba? Si Cory ang kanilang connect. Kaibigang matalik ni Tita Cory si Betty Go-Belmonte na namayapa na at founder ng Star, at kaibigan din niya ang mga Lopezes. Kaya hwag magtaka kung bakit ganyan ang news ng Star as far as ABS is concerned. Mahirap kapag hindi neutral- hindi nagiging objective. Definitely, hindi magiging objective ang ABS as far as politics is concerned.
GMA for me. Simple lang. No frills. Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, kailanman hindi magiging neutral ang ABS. Kung saan pumunta si Cory, doon ito pupunta. Eh si Cory ang nagpabukas ng ABS. Kaya naman may tie-up ang Philippine Star at ABS di ba? Si Cory ang kanilang connect. Kaibigang matalik ni Tita Cory si Betty Go-Belmonte na namayapa na at founder ng Star, at kaibigan din niya ang mga Lopezes. Kaya hwag magtaka kung bakit ganyan ang news ng Star as far as ABS is concerned. Mahirap kapag hindi neutral- hindi nagiging objective. Definitely, hindi magiging objective ang ABS as far as politics is concerned.
Well, stations in other countries are no better off. Just look at MSNBC and FOX News. Both stations are fighting like drunken whores over who has the more credible news facility. They even make TV ads attacking each other.
Yeah I know, but in the world of media and showbiz semantics is not just that it could mean millions, a law suit and a trademark. ;)
So you mean to say ABS has the patent on the phrase "Current Affairs"? ;D ;D ;D
Mr Big Boy,
GMA seems to be improving its production values, especially in the Public Affairs Department. I like their documentaries. They appear to have more depth and heart.
Of course, it is mostly drowned by voice overs and blotched by standuppers but it is better than in ABS-CBN where sensationalism, shallowness and dumbness abound.
Do you think ABS-CBN, especially its News and whatever Affairs is sliding down the abyss of crass commercialism? Do you think they can outshine the Kapuso people?
Kung ikaw ang nasa ABS, how would you straighten out their act and beat the Kapuso pipol?
Really? Thats interesting, how did the ads go? I know that in the US there is more freedom to mention your competition's name in your ads.Yes, What I am pointing out is that some people thought that Philippine Star is the only one which tries to cover the said" flame wars" between the two networks.So I posted that lahat ng diaryo ay mayroon article na ganyan. Kung titingnan natin sa revenues mas malaki ang ABS-CBN .Ang Meteor Garden nga almost everyone in the neighborhood watches it kasi lumakad ako kahapon at naririnig ko ang mga t.v. sets nila nasa channel 2
Ek-Ek what are you trying to say in your post? I'm the one who posted that news article, and yes I did get it from the Philippine Star as my post have stated.
;D
Yup, nakaginto na naman ang dos sa Meteor Garden. Patok sa me pre-teens and teenagers. In fact, nilipat na yung slot sa 5:30 in anticipation of the opening of classes. Marami kasing estudyanto yung sumusubaybay. Kuha nga ako ng mga bagong labas na posters sa Tutuban para maibenta. Buti pa mga anak ko, kilala lahat yung mga pangalan ng mga characters!
Of course, putting it head to head with Xtra Xtra would test its ratings hold on the 5:30 PM slot. As you have observed, marami nang inilagay dun sa slot na yon, Bediones and Quiambao still reign supreme.
;)Sorry, But
ABS-CBN is the country's top station and that's the fact!Plus the top earner! I think you just work inside that station! ;D
By the way, I'm not rooting for any of the two channels. I never watch local stations -- there's nothing to watch. ;D
Regardless of these facts though, I'm still consciously trying to boycott the latter... Most of their stars are jumping fence because they are mean hungry blood suckers...
Indie Boi,
You make an excellent point but I have to thwart your attention to the fact that ABS carries the local station Studio23 as well. A station that carries a lot of excellenct American shows...
But to address the question, I think that both stations have their fair share of strengths and weaknesses...
Ex.
SOP Rules over ASAP
Eat Bulaga reigns supreme over MTB
the NEWS and investigative journalism shows of GMA are far superior.
BUt then again...
ABS Teleseryes are number 1 in all time slots...
Game K N B is the only game show left...
Sitcoms, ABS has the slight edge...
Plus, ABS carries Studio23.
Regardless of these facts though, I'm still consciously trying to boycott the latter... Most of their stars are jumping fence because they are mean hungry blood suckers...
There is still something to watch to... at least, unless you don't have a care in OUR national events.
Indie Boi,
You make an excellent point but I have to thwart your attention to the fact that ABS carries the local station Studio23 as well. A station that carries a lot of excellenct American shows...
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Or maybe just because I do have a fondness for things that rhyme.
I do agree that Studio 23 carries, as you have said, excellent US canned shows. But then Studio 23, aside from the irritating Fusion gag they've done, is treated as a separate entity with totally different crews and creative people manning it. :)
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Even a lot of ad agencies want to place their TVCs here and special launches! rearend personalitys ka-deal ang mga taga-ABS-CBN - sa GMA alaga.
Also when it comes to innovation - GMA ang panalo. ABS-CBN gaya-gaya!
I'm in advertising and what your saying is not only false but also the opposite.
And about innovation, GMA an innovator??? As far as I know the only thing that GMA have innovated is the art of copying and imitation.
;D
You wouldn't believe the dirty tricks these two stations are doing to get an edge. ;) It's one of the reasons why I resigned from one of these stations and refused to work for the other.
good for you.. kung alam mo nang iniisahan ba't ka pa magii-stay. media talaga is a thankless and "soul"'less job. it takes a lot out of one... kaya mga sobrang madalas ang palit ng mga tao sa business na yan. plus walang security... unless you are a mel tiangco or a korina sanchez or even a noli decastro. ;)
Comment lang SPaCeMaN SPiFF. The three names you mentioned wasn't in their respective stature when they started diba. I mean if they have quit early they would never have reach that status they are enjoying now.
Here's one for the lawyers. Until recently, most ABS-CBN employees are considered "Talents" -- editors, writers, PAs, I think even secretaries. Now, being considered a talent means your salary is deducted of taxes but not SSS payments. Why? Because as ABS-CBN HR claims, talents do not have the privilege of company-supported SSS payments. Kung gusto mo ng SSS benefits, mag-file ka as a self-employed individual.
I think they finally changed this policy a year ago.
;)Tama Ka!
These stations are earning lot so they should give more benefits for their stars!
I'd say GMA is better when it comes to programming but this thus not necessarily translate to higher ratings! :)
ABS-CBN is better when it comes to technical know-how!
I just feel relaxed and entertained watching GMA shows. To hell with ratings! More often that not, they are merely provided (or fabricated) by paid hacks and station lackeys ! ;D
According to newspaper accounts, GMA have their ad slots full earning them so much in pesos.
Yet, as far as gross income is concerned, they still trail ABS. What does that mean?
kung ako nakanakaw, este, naka-overcharge pala, ng 29 billion pesoses, palalakihin ko rin ang ABS-CBN ... papagawa ako ng bagong building ... bili ng helicopters ... upgrade ko system ... bilhin ko competing cable companies ... damihan ko international office ... pakasalan ko anak presidenteng bobo
o di ba bigtime ang ABS-CBN ngayon? pagkatapos nito, nakaw, este, overcharge uli ako ... 50 billion naman kasi kasama na ngayon singil sa tubig, cabletv,telepono, etc!
Yes, I know that Maynilad is not anymore with the Lopez group but kahit sila ang may control pa nito we also do not get adequate water services.Second as for Bayantel ,
;)In fairness mas madali magpakabit sa kanila ng line compared to PLDT it only takes a few weeks , :P BUT ang service nila quite poor,yung telephone line namin dito parati may sounds at kung tumatawag ka parating hindi maka-connect even if walang gumagamit ng line. We had two telephone lines before .One is PLDT and the other one is Bayantel after about 3 years we decided na ipaputol na lang ang Bayantel since hindi naman masyadong kailangan at mahirap tumawag sa line na ito.
:D Hindi naman fair na sabihin the people here don't know anything about these companies kasi part na ito nang aming buhay.
Kahit na under control kami ng Maynilad water ganon na talaga. Hindi ganon kagandahan ang service nila.
;)As for ABS-CBN consumer products dati kasama ito sa Boardwalk a direct and multi-level store and then ABS-CBN decided to open a store in Isetan Recto na tumagal lamang ng about a year or so.Sa ngayon kung gusto mo magkaroon ng mga teleserye pillows you could but in Dakki's Direct sales which specialize in Pillows and patented Warner Bro.,Dragon Ball Z etc.
:)I wish to clarify that hindi ako anti- Lopez but hindi rin ako pro-GMA network ,and we all know who is the leading network in the country both in revenues and earnings and that is ABS-CBN. :-*Okey!! ;D
Here's yet another newspaper article...
GMA-7: We earned
a 'record' P650-M in May
Posted: 10:41 PM (Manila Time) | May 31, 2003
By Leah Salterio
Inquirer News Service
GMA-7, too, set a record when it grossed 650 million pesos in revenues for May, according to its marketing president Meckoy Quioge.
"That is a 91 percent increase from our May 2002 earnings of 341million pesos," Quiogue told Inquirer Entertainment. "That's almost double what we earned in May last year."
The GMA-7 executive revealed this following the ABS-CBN report in its annual stockholders' meeting last Thursday that it set a record when it made one billion pesos in airtime sales for May alone.
"ABS-CBN's one billion pesos is quite big," Quioge admitted, "but that's only 27 percent of what they made in May 2002. If you relate it to the growth from the previous year, ours is more dramatic."
He said that GMA-7 has already surpassed the 500-million-peso monthly revenue mark thrice this year.
"We have set another record in sales," Quiogue said. "From January to May, our growth was already 79 percent compared to last year's."
He said GMA-7 made 1.323 billion pesos in airtime revenues from January to May 2002. For the same period this year, the network registered 3.71 billion pesos in sales.
"That's a very significant increase," Quiogue pointed out. "We're happy. ABS-CBN is doing well. We're also doing well and even better compared to last year."
He also pointed out that the network achieved the latest record without increasing its advertising rates, while ABS-CBN implemented increased rate cards in February.
He said GMA Network expects to further boost its sales with a projected rate increase by the second half of this year.
"We believe we can achieve our target without burdening the industry with an increase, although we only postponed it," Quiogue said. "We will implement our increase in July."
GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe S. Yalong expressed confidence that the network could surpass its 2002 total net income of 401million pesos in just the first five months of this year.
GMA management is very upbeat over the company's continuous and massive improvement in sales, according to Yalong.
"Previously, our revenues were only about one-third that of ABS-CBN's," Yalong said. "Now we have increased our sales to more than half their earnings in a short period. In terms of total expenses, ours are less than half their total."
GMA-7's reported revenues, according to Yalong, are from TV ads only and do not include earnings from blocktime programs, particularly from its top-rating daily noontime show, "Eat Bulaga!"
Management attributes the success to the cost efficiency of many of its programs. GMA was behind in ratings by only one percentage point in the first quarter of 2003. Based on data released by AGB Philippines as of the second quarter of 2003 covering April 1 to May 17, GMA is now tied in total day household ratings with ABS-CBN at 14 percent.
Earlier, ABS-CBN senior vice president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada told Inquirer Entertainment that its one-billion-peso gross in May brought the network's total gross so far this year to 4.1 billion pesos.
"It's a record year-to-date figure that overtook our 2002 gross sales by 23 percent," Gabunada had said. "Since ABS-CBN started operating again in 1986, this is the only time we reached one billion pesos in sales in one month."
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago. ;D
also... what's the deal with who made more money than what???... i think instead of spending full page ads on announcing how much more money they made than their competitors... these people should be concentrating on giving their viewers better shows and improve their exisiting ones. :P
As for Bayantel, my brother is an Engineer once in that company the problem is not within Bayantel system nasa PLDT and problema they won't interconnect with the company infact if your buying prepaid internet service cards ganyan rin ang problema not because of the ISPs but because of PLDT ginigipit nila competition nila so lalabas na bulok ang kalaban when in fact the fault lies with PLDT.
Mr. Big Boy,
Just to clarify di namin ginigipit ang mga taga bayantel and other ISP'S..its their back up batteries na may problema kaya nawawala din telepono ng BAYANTEL pag brown out.Tsaka since FVR era.. open na yung telecom BUSINESS..di na pwede monopoly kaya sa ayaw at sa gusto ng PLDT..Makikipag interconnect sila sa other telcos...bibigyan ng slots to connect. Do you have proof na di namin pinapayagan maka konekta ang ibang telcos sa PLDT?
Ang complain centered on connectivity ang hirap comontact sa PLDT lines infact pati sa Eastern Lines and Globe Lines ganyan rin ang problema hirap comontact sa PLDT.
Di naman ako maniniwala lahat ng telcos na ito ang may kasalanan eh sa PLDT lang naman ang mahirap comonnect.
About the standing executive order that all telcos must interconnect, I think you know better than to believe that maraming pwedeng palusot ang PLDT I know I have friends and a brother who are directly involve with interconnecting with PLDT. Dami nilang palusot.
24 Hours bang mahirap kumonekta sa PLDT? or certain time lang? Regarding sa interconnection... di kasalanan ng PLDT yun kung madaming subscriber ang globe,ETPI etc. ang nahihirapan kumonekta dahil depende kung ang ciruits lang na kinuha ng mga telcos na yun SA pldt ay di enough para sa subscriber nila...bayantel and other telcos leased certain number of circuits sa PLDT para makapag interconnect..nagbibigay lang kami ng Circuits kaya di na namin kasalanan kung di pa rin maka konekta yung ibang telcos sa PLDT sa kadahilanang konting circuits lang ang kinuha nila...in fact mas pabor din sa PLDT kung mas madaming kumukuha ng circuits sa amin kasi mas malaki ang kita...dun na lang pinapadaan yung mga nagpapaputol na subs ng PLDT.
Anyway as I have said I'm more inclined to believe these small companies when they say they are being taken advantage of and ginigpit by PLDT than to believe PLDT. The majority can't be wrong all the time.
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago. ;D
I think he and his family also used to own the frequency of Channel 23 which ABS-CBN bought from him, then he was appointed to manage Studio 23. Nag retire siya then GMA hired him.
ABS-CBN to elevate cable channeling issue to SC if NTC rule is unfavorable
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Monday, June 02, 2003]
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. said it would not hesitate to elevate its case to the Supreme Court should the National Telecommunications Commission insist that its cable television firm SkyCable Central CATV Inc. violated rules when it changed the channel assignment of GMA Network Inc. from channel 12 to channel 14.
ABS-CBN chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez said cable operators have their own prerogative to decide on which channel it wants to carry a particular TV broadcasting network.
"That is the key issue between the KBP (Kapisanan ng Brodkasters sa Pilipinas and the PCTA (Philippine Cable Television Association) because KBP wants those channels where they are on free TV. The PCTA, on the other hand, says it is the right of cable operators to decide what channels and where to carry it," Lopez said.
"So that is an issue that would go all the way to the Supreme Court because it’s not an issue that the PCTA would accede to because it is a critical question in terms of growth. We don’t have to ask anyone for permission," Lopez said.
Lopez has also assailed the NTC for unjustly intervening in the row between GMA and ABS-CBN or SkyCable. "Why will our marketing strategy be subject to the approval of the regulator when all along, fundamentally, the direction of the government is let the free markets operate. If the NTC wants to interfere, the least they can do is to hold a public hearing and hear the comments of the cable operators before they decide on an issue which is more significant than simply the view of one free TV operator," he said.
"In America, the cable operators reserve the right to put the channels wherever they seize it, because for a pay-TV service, where you put the channel is the most significant marketing opportunity you have," Lopez further said.
SkyCable earlier asked the NTC to reconsider its recent ruling that the company violated NTC circular no. 04-88-88 which requires cable TV operators to carry the broadcast channels on their channel of transmission (i.e.GMA 7- on channel 7).
SkyCAble said compelling cable TV operators to carry the TV networks on the same channel number at which it is transmitting would result in serious technical, financial and business repurcussions.
Doing so would require massive investment not only in the form of equipment but also manpower and other incidental expenses, which will seriously, financial and businesswise, hurt the respondent and ultimately redound to the prejudice of its subsribers. SkyCable said.
GMA-7 legal counsel Roberto Rafael Lucila of the Belo Gozon Elma Parel Asuncion & Lucila law offices, said the country’s TV network expects the NTC to implement the decision on the re-channeling case soon to comply with the agency’s rules and regulations. "There is simply no credible reason why the decision of the NTC and its rules and regulations should not be followed by the three cable companies. SkyCable and its affiliates can not just simply ignore the fact that they applied for their respective authority to operate and have operated for the past 10 years under the same rules and regulations. They must therefore respect the NTC decision," Lucila said.
Lucila said GMA-7’s complaint for unfair competition against ABS-CBN Corp. has already been served and they expect the Lopez controlled network to answer the complaint within 15 days from receipt.
He said the NTC has also issued summons to SkyCable, Philippine Home Cable Holdings, and Pilipino Cable Corp. to answer the complaint for monopoly, signal distortion and degradation, as well as unlawful cross-ownership, within the same period of 15 days. The hearing, he said, was set on July 1, 2003.
In its complaint filed with the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, GMA-7 is seeking payment for damages worth about P12 million from the three cable operators as compension for "acts of unfair competition, corporate combinations and manipulations as well as unjust, oppressive, high-handed and unlawful business practices."
GMA-7 said the transfer of its signal to channel 14 from the original channel 12 in the cable firms’ system was done "without notice to the viewing public, the NTC and the plaintiff.
This rechanneling allegedly caused "disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA-7’s TV shows and resulted in the distortion and degradation of quality.
Because of this alleged signal degradation, GMA-7 claimed that the ratings of its shows were affected as the signal were usually being done during the airing of the network’s top-rating shows.
Studio 23 and its frequency was part of AMCARA Broadcast Network owned by Cady Carandang, one of the pioneer engineers of ABS CBN. ABS CBN bought into the said company obtaining management control.
I may have mentioned these in other threads but I understand ABS spent for a dubbing machine that can practically synchronize the length of the spiel with the movement of the lips being synched. That's why in the ABS telenovelas (spanish-mexican series), the spiels are spoken very fast para sabay sa buka ng bibig. The same is done for the chinovela (chinese/korean/jap)
For the ABS teleseryes (Pinoy series) problema na ng malaysia and kenya to dub it in their local tongue to understand the series. Sa GMA, kaya ba nila yun? (to export locally produced series) ;)
I think GMA's chinovelas and telenovelas' dubbing actually capture the culture they are from. I notice that most telenovelas on GMA are dubbed in Filipino but with distinct Spanish accent unlike the telenovelas in ABS-CBN. I caught some episodesof My MVP Valentine and I think they did what they did with telenovelas, they dubbed this chinovela in Filipino but with a somewhat subtle Chinese accent.
As for the extension of Sana Ikaw Na Nga, It was supposed to end when it should have ended however they extended it due to the unavaialbility of Lorna Tolentino to start on her new soap with GMA since she's stuck with ABS-CBN's Kay Tagal Kang Hinintay.
Now this is silly. Both ABS and GMA are claiming that they had the last interview of Senator Cayetano. Not only is it insignificant who had the last interview, it also comes across as a bit crass.
But come to think of it, both maybe true. Each have their respective network's last interview with the senator. ;)
Not following time schedules are not really illegal. However, commercial overloading that more often than not results to overtime shows is frowned upon by the KBP hence sanctions are imposed on the erring station after due process.
Really? I can't remember where I read it but i think it is a stipulated regulation for TV stations to follow their time schedules. From what I've read, it's illegal because you're basically keeping your audience captive. I think I read it in one of the sunday magazines -- I'll have to double check though.
??? I don't know "why" are do you say that Channel 2 started it! What I know is that it was started by other stations before channel 2. Kasi may kaibigan ng friend ko who works before sa " broadcast city" at ginagawa din daw nila ito before.May galit ka ba sa Dos? pereho lang sila na hindi sumusunod sa mga program schedules.
:)Peace din, sa iyo! Hindi mo kasi ibinigay kung anong magazine ang source mo.
kapag natapos ang upgrade ng NLEX, tiba-tiba na naman ang kapamilya
kahit na mas mayaman ang ABS-CBN, bilib din ako sa GMA for keeping up with the competition
kapag natapos ang upgrade ng NLEX, tiba-tiba na naman ang kapamilya
NLEX? What's that?
Huh? What's the connection?
I like BBC best, actually... ;D
:) Sa local ,I prefer the way GMA delivers the news.
GMA Network resigns from KBP
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 09/05/2003
Most of these cases against GMA involve violations of provisions of the Television Code, a set of rules promulgated by the broadcasting industry as part of their self-regulation.
One of these cases involves obscenity, in particular certain foul‚ statements uttered by Startalk host Rossana Roces in her show aired over GMA 7. The second one involves GMA news anchor Mike Enriquez who in several instances allegedly lambasted rival ABS-CBN on air, which is expressly prohibited in the Code. The third one involves commercial overloading. The rules provide for a maximum 18 minutes per hour of commercials.
A GMA official told The STAR that the network resigned from KBP as its membership in the organization is no longer beneficial to it.
A KBP source on the one hand revealed that GMA 7 knew that a suspension by the KBP was forthcoming and resigning now would prevent GMA from being put in a bad light. "Management of GMA also probably does not realize the implications of its move, especially on the advertisers," the source added.
This another tantrum by this Network only goes to show how insecure and childish they are.
tsk tsk tsk... It's only a matter of time before this network self destructs.
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I hate Mike Enriquez's voice. Naka-irita sa tenga! >:(
Kahit sa radyo. Ganun din!
I couldn't agree with you more! ;D It really baffles me how far he got as a broadcaster! ???
GMA is still the best, the awards speaks for itself!
Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
What is even more baffling is, that he received local and international recognition as best news anchor. Are we wrong on seeing him as an annoying and oa news reader?
I often catch him reading a tragic and sad news with a happy and joyfull expression on both his face and voice. Paano kaya naging best news anchor in Asia si Mr. Enriquez???
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I just dip in & out of news channels & never watch for long. But no offense to anyone. ABS-CBN is somewhat bias on their news when involving the Lopezes on issues like the Meralco and etc (well, one should expect this). So personally, I opt for GMA when it comes to news. Although everyone has different preferences.
And mike enqriquez keeps lambasting meralco/maynilad/bayantel all the time just because they are lopez's and related to abscbn and thats unprofessional
I just dip in & out of news channels & never watch for long. But no offense to anyone. ABS-CBN is somewhat bias on their news when involving the Lopezes on issues like the Meralco and etc (well, one should expect this). So personally, I opt for GMA when it comes to news. Although everyone has different preferences.
For the Sitcoms, here are my choices:
Monday - Bida si Mister Bida si Misis (ABS-CBN)
Tuesday - Kool Ka Lang (GMA)
Wednesday - Klasmeyts (ABS-CBN)
Thursday - Maalaala Mo Kaya (ABS-CBN)
Friday - Bubble Gang (GMA)
Saturday - Idol Ko Si Kap (GMA)
Sunday - RPN 9 pag may boksing.
Overall, I would still rate GMA 10-9 ahead of ABS-CBN.
I watched him last weekend on Sharon and ASAP. I like his brand of music, pang dinner songs.
When he was still an FM radio dj, he used the name "Baby Mike" .
Aside from being an news anchor, he is concurrently head of GMA's radio Network. I think was also responsible for programming WKC.
i like Rhea Santos though.. she is d only edge GMA has!! :o
"Yummy!" ;Dandyan din si candice jiron sa gma news live . so cute when she smiles.
Who do you prefer Mike Enriquez or Rey Langit ;D
andyan din si candice jiron sa gma news live . so cute when she smiles.
Medyo "Thunder" na nga ako kasi I still remember, Mike Enriquez is Baby Michael who i used to listen with Hill Billy Willy on the station DWBL on the AM band. Hindi pa uso noon yung FM (Thunder talaga! ;D ). Then nung lumipat yung mga music format stations from AM to FM, we heard them in DWKC (formerly DWEI, formerly DZHP), the station of RMN.
Buti pa noon nung DJ siya, oki naman ang dating ng boses (malayo talaga sa mukha!)
to stay on topic, i used to believe gma was better because they had te best public affairs line up and evening news was just news. now, it seems they're outdoin each other in dumbing us down.
GMA's News and Public affairs department just lost its credibility when they censored Probe Teams expose.
The Probe Team was the one who gave GMA's News and Public Affairs credibility, ironically The Probe Team was not even part of GMA News Department it is a block timer.
With an anchor like Mike Enriquez and Arnold Clavio who would say GMA News department is credible?
GMA's News and Public affairs department just lost its credibility when they censored Probe Teams expose.
The Probe Team was the one who gave GMA's News and Public Affairs credibility, ironically The Probe Team was not even part of GMA News Department it is a block timer.
With an anchor like Mike Enriquez and Arnold Clavio who would say GMA News department is credible?
I read an article regarding this and Mr. Gozon answered that the Probe Team was using the financial statements circa middle to late 1990s in developing their conclusions. If this is true, it would be really unfair to judge a person or an organization using an un-updated document. Ask any accountant.
Mr. Gozon said that the censored episode was shown at a much later date daw with additional interviews & updated documents. i don't know when nga lang if it was really shown. let's ask the probe team website. :P
Anyway, i think both news organizations have their share of biased news anchors. Just read Nestro Torre's column at the Inquirer once in a while.
ABS has Korina, Ted & Noli de Castro. I remember how MGB reported on Los Banos quarrying issue late 1990s. The mayor of Los Banos was so hurt because the interview was edited to suit to their need of sensationalism. (I know the son's mayor & he was present during his father's interview with Noli)
This is the danger of news reporting for all media organizations. The watchers & readers of the news really don't know what parts of their interviews were edited & deleted because these are compromised with advertising time & space.
If I were Bernadette Sembrano, baka di lang ganun ang naging reaction ko... talagang sampal sa mukha para sa isang reporter/journalist ung ginawang 'palusot' ng GMA....
Pahabol lang, they did allow that episode to be shown but before they showed it Arnold Clavio read a disclaimer in effect saying that the said feature was not credible and unsubstantiated. This cause his co anchor in Saksi to walk-out on air. Bernadette Sebrano walk-out because she is a part of the Probe Team and she was the one who made that feature report.
Eh di para nga namang sinampal mo on-air yung reporter. It's no different in saying that Bernadette your a bias and unethical jornalist in front of national TV.
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The same subject was aired on ABS-CBN and it really will make you think about the officials honesty. Besides they are goverment officials di ba dapat they are transparent anough and ready for this kind of scrutiny that is the price of public service kaya di ko bibilihin palusot ng GMA.
my personal peeve is in the best comedy actor category. vic sotto won over michael v and ogie, but jon sntos or anyone from ispup wasn't even nominated.
to stay on topic, i used to believe gma was better because they had te best public affairs line up and evening news was just news. now, it seems they're outdoin each other in dumbing us down.
That's idealistic wishful thinking but we are living in the real world Indie Boi. Media especially broadcast has its responsibility that's true, after all having given the privilege of a franchise to operate they should not betray that trust.
But having said that the truth is media are run by private companies these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service. Companies should first think of being profitable, all those slogan about public service are merely marketing tools intended for the ultimate end of earning our money. I myself would not invest in a company that says otherwise.
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That’s not a bad thing. In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers. Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product. If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.
All I’m saying is rating/profit is the ultimate goal public service automatically fallows because it is their business afterall. But public service is subjective kung ang audience gusto yung kind or brand of service these networks give them then who are we the minority to dictate what the greater audience should watch. So tama in effect yung sabihin that these networks are providing the services the majority wants. To a certain extent it is the audience that makes the program the networks give. The audience has more power to make news credible more powerful than the owners of these networks themselves.
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Kaya if you hate media politics like what GMA did to Probe then don’t watch GMA news or write to forums like this it might reach them naman siguro. And if market forces is strong enough I’m sure they will listen because they have no choice.
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That's idealistic wishful thinking but we are living in the real world Indie Boi. Media especially broadcast has its responsibility that's true, after all having given the privilege of a franchise to operate they should not betray that trust.
But having said that the truth is media are run by private companies these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service. Companies should first think of being profitable, all those slogan about public service are merely marketing tools intended for the ultimate end of earning our money. I myself would not invest in a company that says otherwise.
That’s not a bad thing. In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers. Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product. If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.
Kaya if you hate media politics like what GMA did to Probe then don’t watch GMA news or write to forums like this it might reach them naman siguro. And if market forces is strong enough I’m sure they will listen because they have no choice.
these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service.
In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers. Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product. If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.
you have a point there big boy. my question now is, are the owners & investors ONLY interested in profits or dividends? if this is the case, we all know where the ethics of that business lie when they need to decide what will be sacrificed (truth or profit?). :'( just imagine paano kung ganito ang ethics ng mga drug companies.you also have a good point there using the argument of the law of supply & demand.
one point lang, kung gusto ng audience eh x-rated in free tv, susundin nila? ???
we also have to remember that mass media is about perception. perception = marketing. in marketing, you don't just find the demand, you CREATE it. that's why mass media always create a demand thru good perception. and they always find themselves (the media) at the crossroads of telling the truth or creating a demand thru good perception for the goal of profit.
just an example, the shift in fashion is dictated by creating a demand. fashion affects lifestyle. lifestyle affects the society. but who is helps the fashion industry? the media of course. media can decide what is the next big thing. it is quite simple to deduce the extent of the power of media companies in affecting society as a whole. kung may magandang idea or product but they (media) refuse to expose it, saan pupulutin ang idea na ito?that's why i am urging the pinoydvd people to become anti-subjective news reporting, not just anti-gma. we may be the (intelligent, nax!) minority, but we still have our voices. ;D
just a question mr. big boy, if abs cbn would find themselves in the same situation like in saksi and did exactly what gma did to probe, would you voice out your opinion here regarding your disgust against abs? ;)
peace. ;D
I didn’t know that there is no room for idealism in the real world. If that’s the case, then maybe everyone should just take all these corruption scandals with a jaded eye and not just care anymore. It is THE REAL WORLD after all.
Having said that, let me just point out that we’re talking about a 30-minute show here. Yes, networks are run by private companies that exist to earn. I agree with that, but to extend it to a 30-minute show? Are we now supposed to just accept the fact that even public service should be profit-driven?
Bantay Bata is an offshoot public service program of ABS-CBN – now I’m being told that even this benign organization has more insidious objectives? That they exist to make a profit out of the misery of abused children? This is precisely the kind of reasons that promote the dumbing down of mass media and its audience. By arbitrarily saying that the masses will only accept “bakya” programs, you never really promote or encourage growth or maturity in how they view what they want. You seem to have mixed up the profit-oriented goals of a company to the public service responsibilities that a media network has been given because of their position.
The media is considered the fourth estate, the watchdog of society – if you’re saying that the Philippine media is and should be purely driven by just profits alone, then God help us all.
Maybe it's the other way around. Profit is actually what is left over from the cost of the SERVICE paid for by your customer. You must first SERVE your customer in order to receive compensation for your SERVICE, after which, what you spent is deducted from that compensation in order to arrive at a PROFIT. Ok, fine, profit is necessary to keep running, but there are many businesses and organizations out there whose primary goal is to give SERVICE, believing that if you SERVE your customers well, the profits will automatically follow.
I think we should think about who the true clients of a network are? Do we pay ABS-CBN or GMA to bring us content? We do not. Who pays the networks? It is advertisers who pay the networks. We have to factor that in, because to me, the advertisers are THE primary client of the networks. The job of the network is to DELIVER the audience to the advertisers, thus the whole ratings thing. If the network does not deliver the audience, the advertiser will not patronize the network, and the network will not be profitable. The audience is NOT the primary client of any network that needs to be profitable to survive.
No company gives service for service sake because if they do they are charitable institutions and not a company.
When you invest you're money in business what is your purpose? To serve? To promote world peace? To be charitable? To mold a better society? If that is your main concern you're better off giving your money to the church or charitable institutions or better yet give them directly to the goverment. Or run for public office.
All I'm saying is businesses are there to make money that is their ultimate goal, I never said that in doing so wala ng fringe benefits na makukuha ang consumers or ang goverment. When you're engage in service oriented business like media or utilities of course just like any other company it is only natural to give what your market demands.
Ultimately businesses who gives service have no other choice but to give what their consumers demands or they will switch to the competition.
So are investors mainly interested in profits or dividends, generally yes. Are they interested in ethics and public service? Of course yes because it is part of their business. Did they spend millions of money to give service for service sake? I think we're not that naive to think that they did. And there is nothing wrong with that ang masama eh pamigay mo yung pera ng investors mo for your personal cause to become a saint.
Huh??? Naguguluhan ako sa tanong na yan. Have I ever mention in any of my statements to allow illegal or criminal acts? If I did please kindly point it out.
Diba sinabi ko nga businesses are after profit, now tell me sinong tangang investor ang gagawa niyan knowing to well na tatamaan ang negosyo nila? Well easier said than done.
I am in advertising I think kahit paano alam ko na market forces creates demand and not the other way around.
When you release a product you do research you spend millions just to validate your product. Kung ang producto mapait sa panlasa ng consumers kahit anong clasend promotion gawin mo wlang bibili nun.
Example - where are these shows now? Cafe Bravo, Tatak Pinoy, Little Night of Music, Usapang Business etc. Baka nga pati yung mga nag-rereklamo sa bulok at stupid shows on TV did not support programs like those.
YES, not only ABS-CBN but also PTV-4, ABC-5, RP4N-9, ZOE-11, IBC-13 etc.
But I have never seen or ever recalled having seen such a blatant display of News Censorship by any other network. Imagine yung owner president mismo ng Network daw ang nag-patigil to protect not an institution but a single individual. And this report by Probe merits the show cancellation dahil sa isang tao? Kung may naalala kang similar case please feel free to mention it here.
Im not critical of what GMA did because I admire ABS-CBN but mainly because it is wrong. I have a friend working for Probe Production and believe me they are deep in trouble because of this one individual they exposed.
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You did not get my point eh. Let me ask you why are these service oriented compnaies exist in the first place? Why did PLDT, GLOBE, BAYANTEL invested and loaned billions of dollars? Do you think they risked loosing billions of dollars just to serve you? Siyempre profit ang bottom line. And because of stiff competition service oriented companies makes sure to give good service not because they want to serve you for service sake but because they want to earn your trust because you have that money they wanted.
Another nice point Mr. Big Boy. Tama ka. What I’d just like to see is some sort of a BALANCE between profit and social responsibility. Wag naman higit na mas importante ang profit.
What's the point? We the audience are the ones who give's that money because the money which the advertisers/companies pay these networks comes from us the viewers eh di ganun rin yun.
The moment you start thinking of these shows in terms of ratings and not as public service, you already compromise its integrity. That goes for both ABS-CBN, GMA and the rest of the networks. .
i never read much of the earlier replies but- NONE. they both stink.
TV Patrol lang pinapanood ko sa ABS and even though I rarely watch Tagalog shows and sitcoms, I think GMA is better in this aspect based on some shows I've seen. Tama iyong iba. I tried watching some ABS sitcoms and shows but I didn't laugh 1 bit pero sa GMA, Eat Bulaga pa lang nakailang tawa na ako. Sana lang iimprove pa nila ang programs nilang 2 para hindi naman bumaba intellect ng viewers.
partners mel and joey (de leon) ??? this i gotta see...
hmmm... a matrona and a b**chy closet queen, great combination, sounds interesting! lol
i think i speak for everybody when i say "Who The F cares about their legal tussle crap?"
after years of not watching local shows, i've realized that our shows are crap! no offense but this is only my observation. you can't get any value from their primetime shows except documentaries of probe productions by cheche lazaro. i could say they can be entertaining but that's it. news are most of the times recycled and just updated upon delivery of newer info. our local news can be exaggerated, stereotyped and branded as "true service to the filipinos" haha what a lame tag line. for showbiz, naaaah you'll just get a buzz who went preggy, who's with somebody, starlets blabbing and quarelling about nothing blah blah blah
sometimes i wonder, what good can i get watching local shows in this primary networks.
patulan ko pa siguro if i see "when animals attack these local stars" ala axn's when animals attack hahaha
My wife just got home and bowled me over with her news that Charo Santos and six other VPs resigned from ABS-CBN. Johnny Manahan also resigned.
ako alam ko, lilipat ng GMA :P ;D one of the vp @ abs now was our ex-bigboss.....hmmmmm ::)
Indie boi what could be the reason why these high profile people resigned at Abs-cbn? ???
Indie boi what could be the reason why these high profile people resigned at Abs-cbn? ???
My wife just got home and bowled me over with her news that Charo Santos and six other VPs resigned from ABS-CBN. Johnny Manahan also resigned.
and have you noticed lately, THEY"RE NOT ON TIME as usualsinabi mo pa :) working with them is even worst....classic ex.(would happen most of the time >:() a 30min show(tele) to be aired @6pm darating sa studio for audioposting ng 5:45 so you have 15 mins to work on a 30 min material!!!! galing ano po ;D ayun! butas butas
their program skeds are always being pushed forward, both abs-cbn and gma!
ay naku!
No word yet from my wifey. Their office was buzzing all the day but no one has given a definitive explanation. But ABS-CBN's falling ratings may be one of the reasons.
All she knows is that the group who resigned leaked their intentions first to the media before handing in their resignation. ABS-CBN's stock plummeted today and there is talk of massive downsizing to cover the loss.
Oh, and it looks like Korina Sanchez will be given an administrative position.
mr. bigboy,
by the way,
hindi ba abs lang ang filipino channel abroad?
so its not surprising na hit ang any show ng abs sa abroad. ;)
(kaya nga number 1 kasi only one...)
i do believe the true power of abs will be known
kung magkakaroon sila ng competition abroad, di ba?
i do believe competition should make the industry better,
and not make the consumers suffer.
Charo Santos unloaded all of her ABS-CBN shares. what does this mean?
I went to the Phisix website a while ago. I was thinking that if ABS is doing really well I should tell my father-in-law to unload his stocks too -- since he has been stuck with it since he bought it a couple of years ago at 28 pesos per share. I was so disappointed to find out that ABS stocks are not performing that well after all. After a high of 24/share last October 2004, it's only listed at 18/share today. Aside from a few market corrections, ABS shares have been plummeting since October of last year.
Sayang, I really thought my father-in-law could sell his stocks this week. :(
http://www.pse.org.ph/html/Charts/charts.jsp?securitySymbol=ABS
hmmm... a local martha stewart case! ehehe ;D
better sell the shares while you're at it before it goes down!
or she has other plans to jump ship ehehe
I play the stock market too. If ever Charo Santos is indeed just "playing" the stock market -- it's quite a weird move for a top executive to unload all of her stocks in a company she STILL WORKS FOR. If ABS-CBN stocks are really performing well, common sense dictates that you sell SOME of your stocks and then wait for the shares to go HIGHER. Any stock market analyst would advise that . If Charo has indeed unloaded ALL of her stocks -- well, in any other company that only means one thing -- the executive has lost confidence in the company.
Are there any people here who dabble in stocks. I'm curious as to what you guys think about this.
RMN, was Charo's move confirmed? My wife has never mentioned this topic being discussed in her internal meetings at the company.
28 Pesos? Wow. If I remember correctly ABS-CBN reached a high of 47 per share nung bago palang ito sana binenta na niya that time. The PSE performed generally well for a couple of days before that Valentine bombing incident and ABS-CBN and it's Mother Company Benpres Holdings performed well also. Given the fiscal crisis the uncertainty of VAT being approved and the Budget not being past, if I am Charo I would unload all my Stocks and invest it in Real Estate or something more stable against speculative forces or wait.
The problem with the stock market is no matter how good and stable the company is performing it doesnt follow na maganda na rin automatically ang magiging value ng stocks mo, alam mo naman yan kung nag lalaro ka sa stock market diba. Saka relative sa time frame yung sinasabing magandang performance eh di naman ibig sabihin buong taon yung icoconsider mo, a few days in the market can very well mean millions of losses or gains. I'm surprised na hindi mo napuna na gumaganda ang takbo na Phisix before the bombing incident and had to check the website pa, anyway kanya kanya yan. I only quoted what Charo Santos said and according to her she's playing the Market now that's why she unloaded her stocks. Anyway when the Value goes down she can always buy back ABS-CBN stocks tumubo pa siya.
If Charo Santos is indeed moving out of ABS-CBN I don't see any reason why she can't keep her stocks or atleast some of it, unless nasa Company Constitution yun which I doubt.
I'm not talking about TFC here. I’m talking about shows being syndicated internationaly. Or shows being bought directly by Foreign TV Networks to be shown and marketed to their people. Like in Africa, Asia and Europe. There are even clamor from some countries by NON-PINOYS to bring our artist there because of the popularity of some Pinoy programs there.
Even the movie right of Feng Shui is being sought by Brad Pitt and Jeniffer Aniston's Film Production Company from Star Cinema.
About TFC not having a competitor before, that’s true because TFC is the one who took the risk and pioneered international Pinoy TV, because of that a lot of Pinoy and even its competitor will reap the benefits of that risk TFC made.
Of course technical advancement is not the be all and end all of TV Fares, but that is one important and highly appreciated factor by TV viewers. I’m sure if our Networks do not invest on equipment they will receive additional criticisms from you. I guess it's a matter of seeing the glass of water as being half full or half empty. I acknowledge the tremendous shortcomings of the TV industry but I rather appreciate the good things about it and there's a lot of good things happening to it right now infact.
As for relying more on the papers for News, that’s the biggest joke. Papers can be a lot more bias and inaccurate than TV and in many instances that is the case. At lease on TV you can see news unfolding before your eyes and hear it practically from the horse’s mouth. The two has its pros and cons we can’t make a sweeping conclusion which of the two is more reliable, for one papers can’t bring us breaking news which is very important if you’re engage in speculative base businesses.
All I'm saying is we pinoy tend to be over critical to our own, we bash everything Pinoy and praise anything foreign, that’s just a general observation. I’m not saying that you’re like that.
I also watch more foreign cable channels than Pinoy, but I do not base my judgment what to watch based on which is local and which is foreign because for me both got trashable programs and sensationalize news and in the same manner both got good points and can be appreciated in different ways.
Charo Santos, the story goes, unloaded all of her shares as soon as she reported to work after a month long vacation abroad. This move of her's, I agree, does not send a good signal to stockholders, fellow ABS-CBN employees and management. More than anything, it would appear as a vote of no confidence on the company she works for. In this post Enron/Worldcom/Tyco business environment, I believe regulators (the SEC or PSE) should look into this.
Or maybe this confirms the "insider" story that I heard... :-X
Charo Santos, the story goes, unloaded all of her shares as soon as she reported to work after a month long vacation abroad. This move of her's, I agree, does not send a good signal to stockholders, fellow ABS-CBN employees and management. More than anything, it would appear as a vote of no confidence on the company she works for. In this post Enron/Worldcom/Tyco business environment, I believe regulators (the SEC or PSE) should look into this.
Or maybe this confirms the "insider" story that I heard... :-X
My lips are sealed... :-X In the proper time, perhaps... ;)
"That's unprecedented in ANY publicly listed company." ??? ???
Daily disclosures given by the PSE will invariably include snippets on how many Ayala Corp, BPI, Globe shares JAZA bought or sold, how many Globe shares Mr. Ablaza bought or sold, how many shares of PLDT Mr. Pangilinan bought or sold etc... This is not only PUBLIC information but a requirement to the PSE to disclose share movement of TOP management.
With the advent of shares of stock being used as part of an executive's renumeration, it is inevitable that there will be share movement. These guys have personal needs and will unload as these needs arise. Similarly, as excess funds flow in, they may buy additional shares.
I'm not disputing the fact that Ms. Santos may be prudent in off-loading her shares of stock to "dabble in the stock market" as she was quoted as saying. Should any corporate development be disclosed after the sale of shares and the news MATERIALLY impacts the company's fundamentals, then Ms. Santos may be cited for insider trading. Corporates will have compliance rules on when an exec may buy or sell shares in the market. I agree though that this does not signal a lot of confidence in the company but heck, anyone who can read a quarterly financial report will know that ABS profit performance and audience share has been sliding does not have to be an insider to know when to bet on another horse... ;D
It's from the ABS-CBN financial report. Someone very, very close to me conceptualized the theme for that letter and the introduction for the report. :)
I liked the over-all concept of their annual report for 2003 and the theme of Gabby's letter. Does this mean that CEO's never actually write their letter to shareholders?
I liked the over-all concept of their annual report for 2003 and the theme of Gabby's letter. Does this mean that CEO's never actually write their letter to shareholders?
Ritchie correction lang, it was ABS-CBN's idea to do a series of shows in Cebu, it was planned way ahead of GMAs. Infact it was even announced in Cebu and Manila and it was even marketed to our local office in Cebu. GMA as usual took the counter offensive and launch their own half-baked series of activities in Cebu.
I agree, Cebu is now becoming the new battleground for the Network Wars, but sa totoo lang napakalakas ng hold ng ABS-CBN sa Cebu nakakahiya ang ratings ng GMA as compared to ABS-CBN sa Cebu, this is also true for the rest of the country. Infact in other areas in the Philippines ABS-CBN rates as high as 70% against GMA's 10 percent or even lower. Mega Manila lang ang kuha ng GMA pero mukhang di pa mag-tatagal. By the year end kuha na ulit ng ABS-CBN ang Mega Manila hehehe. :)
Industry people naman knows wala pa talagang napapatunayan ang GMA masyado lang ang ingay nila because of their planned IPO na di natuloy. ABS-CBN is ABS-CBN, GMA can only dream about reaching the height of ABS-CBNs success. :)
Just want to share this:
AGB PROVINCIAL AUDIENCE SHARES
January - March 2005
BACOLOD
ABS-CBN - 90%
GMA - 4%
LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 89%
GMA - 9%
GENERAL SANTOS
ABS-CBN - 87%
GMA - 11%
NAGA
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 9%
LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 10%
ZAMBOANGA
ABS-CBN - 75%
GMA - 20%
BAGUIO
ABS-CBN - 68%
GMA - 29%
DAVAO
ABS-CBN - 63%
GMA - 17%
CAGAYAN DE ORO
ABS-CBN - 55%
GMA - 35%
CEBU
ABS-CBN - 50%
GMA - 28%
LUZON URBAN AREAS
ABS-CBN - 49%
GMA - 38%
DAGUPAN
ABS-CBN - 37%
GMA - 27%
As of now GMA is still rating higher in Mega-Manila but not as high as what ABS-CBN is getting from the rest of the country. If ABS-CBN management can pull their acts together, by year end mababawi nila Mega Manila. :)
GMA Network maintains lead in overall TV ratings
GMA Network leads the competition in combined Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City total day channel ratings, based on a recent survey from Nielsen Media Philippines.
Nielsen data for April 2005 shows GMA Network posting a total day combined market TV household rating of 14 percent against ABS-CBN’s 11 percent. The same data source also shows GMA ahead of its competitor across all dayparts.
GMA registered average ratings of 7.8 percent against ABS-CBN’s 7.1 percent in the morning, 13.5 percent versus ABS-CBN’s 12.3 percent in the afternoon, and 19.9 percent against ABS-CBN’s 14.6 percent in the evening. Twelve GMA shows were listed among the top 15 programs in April.
The combined market channel ratings are based on the weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagupan City.
Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA.
A closer examination of the weighted average ratings released by ABS-CBN, however, shows that the set of weights applied in Mega Manila and the key cities approximated the percent share distribution of NSOs 2000 Urban Philippines Household Population with Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City getting much bigger weights than their actual share based on TV household populations across the combined survey areas of Nielsen.
According to GMA Network Vice President for Research Sheila Tan, a basic flaw identified in the weights applied by ABS-CBN is the fact that Dagupan City, Metro Cebu, and Davao City, on their own, can not be considered good representations of Urban Balance Luzon, Urban Visayas, and Urban Mindanao. "Previous rating surveys have shown that viewership preferences in cities even within the same region can vary to a large degree, thus, it is not safe to assume that viewership of a sample within a single city can accurately reflect the viewership of the entire Balance Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao," Tan said.
Tan also noted that another problem with applying weights based on NSO’s Population Distribution on TV ratings is the fact that NSO’s household population figures include both TV-owning and non-TV-owning households. "Due to the nature of the (TV viewership) data being generated, TV ratings surveys do not include non-TV-owning households as part of their sample, coverage, or projections. Since TV ownership levels across cities or regions vary significantly, this introduces more bias to such weighting system," Tan said.
GMA Network asked Nielsen Media Philippines to use their global standard procedure or formula when combining ratings from several areas or markets to generate the weighted ratings across the same areas presented by ABS-CBN. Nielsen generated the data via a built-in feature on weighted ratings in their multi-market TV Dynamix and the standard weighing system applied by their software was anchored on TV household populations among the markets covered.
According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively.
GMA Network countered ABS-CBNs claim that it has maintained its significant advantage over GMA across News and Public Affairs programs citing an SWS survey done March 21-29, 2004. The survey, according to GMA, is over a year old and as shown by the more recent Nielsen combined market ratings and AGB Phils. Mega Manila survey, GMAs News and Public Affairs programs have long taken the lead.
The FACT Remains na sa lahat ng Probinsya outside Mega-Manila lampaso ang GMA. Kahit anong formula ang gawin ng GMA because of sour graping they cannot change the fact that all over the Philippines iisa lang ang hawak nila Mega Manila lang, the rest of the Philippines eh namamayagpag ang ABS-CBN.
Its very unfair na imarginalize ng GMA ang lahat ng probinsya. Its like saying na bale wala ang Ratings from Cebu, Davao atbp. They lump all the provinces together at ginawang maliit na parte lang ng Mega Manila just for ego? lol
Kung ako ang taga Cebu at Davao at ibang probinsya maiinsulto ako niyan. ;D
mr big boy,
if you review the few last paragraphs that you quoted,
the ratings were re-computed by nielsen, not gma.
gma only requested that nielsen clarify its data/findings
by using a different framework.
mapunta tayo sa financial performance...
if we will look at the 1st quarter earnings of both stations,
mukhang lamang din ang gma (400 M) as compared to a loss for abs.
with regards to venturing into new markets
gma is will be entering the international airwaves.
whether abs likes it or not, kakain ng market share ang gma pinoy tv
kahit maliit man iyon.
this network battle that is becoming more interesting... ;D
Gross Income for First Quarter of 2005
ABS-CBN - 3.4 BILLION
GMA - 1.9 BILLION
Excalibur,
That is precisely the point, it was not AC Nielsen who initiated the computation it was requested by a CLIENT. Of course Nielsen like any other business entity will do practically anything to please a client.
Nationwide ratings or survey for TV Networks are not normaly done for a lot of various reasons. One of them is because the countryside and provincial Rating methodology and technology is not fully developed yet Nationwide. Sa madaling salita hindi mo pa makukuha lahat ng Ratings sa lahat ng probinsya ng mabuti to represent a true Nationwide Ratings. If this is the case it would be Grossly unfair to claim or indirectly project na number one na Nationwide ang GMA based on a few provinces. It would be misleading. Do you see my point?
People with inefficient comprehension mare being misled into believing that GMA is number one in Cebu, Davao and Dagupan and Nationwide when infact kulelat sila sa lahat ng Ratings na available Nationwide outside Mega Manila. This is what GMA is trying to exploit.
Publicist can very well see how GMA manipulates the Data to project that they are leading not only in Mega Manila but in the entire Philippines , which is not the case naman. Besides how can you lump up the different provinces into one rating when infact they have different localized programings. Lalo na kung hindi pa naka satellite. Example ang Meteor Garden hindi pinalalabas sa Cebu at Davao in the same timeslot. At may mga local programings ang ibang provinces. So how can you combine the ratings then? Misleading yan.
Kaya nga ang survey and research companies don't lump the ratings together. Cebu is Cebu. Davao is Davao hindi pwedeng kainin ng Mega Manila ang dalwang ito. Another factor is not all consumer products that are being advertised are available nationwide some are only available in Mega Manila and some are only available in Cebu or Davao.
So you see its obvious naman why GMA is the only station who requested this kind of deceptive method na hindi commonly pinapractice ng research companies for Broadcasting Ratings. The prudent way of doing it, is to get all the Broadcast Company to accept a common Formula. This is GMAs formula so obviously BIAS.
It all boils down to one thing, Deception. ;D
Kung may duda na ang abs sa objectivity ng nielsen (dahil client ang gma), eh di hindi na nila dapat gamitin ang figures na nirerelease ng nielsen. ;)
Pero kung number 1 sila according sa nielsen, bakit naniniwala sila?
Good Point. Kung hindi available ang ratings sa lahat ng provinces dahil hindi pa ito fully developed, bakit nagcompute ang abs ng over-all rating using some of the NSO figures re:population data using a few provinces? Hindi ba misleading din iyon? ;)
Abs cbn was the first one to release the over-all rating. gma only responded and questioned the process how abs arrived at the figures. questioning and presenting an alternative figure is not necessarily exploiting. nasa tao na iyan kung anong figure at proseso ang gusto nilang paniwalaan. ;)
Misleading din ang ginawa ng abs cbn.
Kasi, they used the NSO figures for the entire population per area when in fact the proper figure should be the number of households owning a television per province/city/municipality (ginamit nilang figure ay hindi para sa target population). Itanong mo iyan kahit sa kaninong matinong researcher o statistician.
Abs cbn was the first one who came up with the over-all rating.
abs cbn ay may sariling formula for the over-all rating.
at sabi mo, ganun din ang gma.
Using your arguments, ang ibig bang sabihin ay parehas nilang dinedeceive ang public? kasi they both released an over all rating at sabi mo, ratings should not be "lumped together".
By the way, can you mathematically prove na bias ang formula ng gma/nielsen?
(According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively)
To objectively say that a formula is bias, dapat may proof. Kung wala, then it is purely speculation o opinion. ;D
bumblebee,
People keep saying they're "kapuso" or "kapamilya". I wonder though -- is there really such a thing as "station loyalty"? Does this mean you don't watch ANY programs from a particular station if you've "allied" yourself with its rival? Isn't the regular viewing habit to watch a show that holds your interest regardless of the TV channel?
People keep saying they're "kapuso" or "kapamilya". I wonder though -- is there really such a thing as "station loyalty"? Does this mean you don't watch ANY programs from a particular station if you've "allied" yourself with its rival? Isn't the regular viewing habit to watch a show that holds your interest regardless of the TV channel?
As for me I'm more interested in the business and technical side of this Network War. It's like the marketing and branding war Coke and Pepsi wage against each other. Siyempre my bet is ABS-CBN kahit na I only watch a handful of local shows. hehehe.
Huh? Who said about ABS-CBN being duda sa AC Nielsen? I was just saying na AC Nielsen heed to the request of GMA kasi client.
The computation was not initiated by Nielsen. So on that alone bias na kasi GMA ang humingi ng ganun computation.
Another BIG HUH??? Excuse me? Where did you see that? I havent seen ABS-CBN publicly releasing ads na Number 1 sila Nationwide. Kung may ad na lumabas na ganito please point it out when and where. In contrast GMA is in full blast on their PR deception. They put an Ad on almost all the dailies, tabloid man o broadsheet. Pati internet this is all over, I'm sure you havent miss all those PR works. Sa ABS-CBN saan??? Please point it out kahit isang Ad lang sa dyaryo nung sinasabi mo. ;D
Again where are these ABS-CBN ads you are talking about? Can you even point atleast one Ad (PUBLIC announcement) regarding this from ABS-CBN. Sa GMA lahat na yata ng Dyaryo lumabas pati sa Internet at TV. Sa ABS-CBN saan? I have seen the provincial ratings thru our office pero walang sum yun.
Does Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City plus Mega Manila makes the whole Philippines kung hindi eh why did they even lump these provinces together and projected they are leading Nationwide by virtue of the sum of FOUR Cities thats HILARIOUS! And thats not bias? LOL
… Hindi pwede ang outright deception like what GMA is doing. Four cities lang pala ang buong Philippines. Lol
Walang nagsabi na abs ay duda sa results ng nielsen. That’s why if you carefully read my response, ang sinabi ko ay “KUNG”. It’s a hypothetical question/situation ;)Hehehe meron ngang "kung" but you implied it just the same. Making a point like that is argumentative, so, that in turn implies I made an opposite argument and saying I did not, make your "duda" statement totally pointless. Then why say it at all?
Do you imply na if the client asks for a re-computation, biased agad iyon?Yes of course, definitely. By the very nature of the request it makes it biased in favor of GMA. Would they make a formulation or request a computation that would be disadvantageous to them? Every statistician knows that statistical data can easily be slanted. That's why formulas and computations must be agreed upon by all parties involved to make it aceptable. Out of 6 VHF Networks and 7 UHF Stations, how many approved the formula? How many of them initiated the Nationwide computation which is not NORMALY PRACTICED? OBVIOUSLY that computatin is not a standard practice in the industry. Do I need to say more?
Or, does asking for a computation based on a different framework would automatically imply biasness? Yes or No?
Teka, teka., teka. I never used the term ADS in my recent response to you.If it’s not an Ad then why did GMA answered it with an Ad, that’s the point. So you can't claim that ABS-CBN did what GMA did. So it was GMA that said, ABS-CBN released the contentious figures and we should believe it? Right! I read a lot of Tabloids and Broadsheets. Its part of my Job requirement, but I never encountered such data. All I've seen is the Provincial Ratings that were itemized and not lumped together. For the sake of argument lets say ABS-CBN did released that said data, then why did GMA had to released the supposed counter-data on a different venue for a different audience? That doesn't make sense. And claiming that it just countered an invisible press release is such an intellectually insulting reason. How can you counter anything that is invisible or in a different arena? Shadow boxing? I mean, c'mon! Magpapaidiot ba ikaw? Common sense.
Eniway, ganito ang approach ko:
Remember the news item posted by Ritchie Nolasco?
“…Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA…”
Since it was released last April 20, siguro naman, if there was a denial of abs stating that they did not release such figures ay makikita agad natin. But I never saw any denial by abs. (Madali lang naman mag deny di ba?) Kung may nakita ka na denial, please share it with us.
Again, if you carefully read my response, I never used the term ADS. So I don’t need to point an ad about abs cbn. ;D
I used the term over-all rating. And I based my statement about the over-all rating (released by abs) on the article posted by Ritchie Nolasco. At iyun ay quinote mo rin.
Actually, its not hilarious. It is feasible. According to survey designs and operations, due to the factor of limited time & financial resources available, you can actually select a (small) SAMPLE that can represent the whole country. Therefore, it is mathematically possible to obtain a sample containing only Mega-Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao and Dagupan because they are elements on the sample space of the Philippines.What!? Baka himatayin ang professors ko dati sa sinabi mo na yan! lol It might be the case for some statistical data depending on the purpose. But not here, where the contention involves regional/local statistics and figures. First of all you are going against the very principle and claim GMA is making. Which is they are number one Nationwide not just in one place (Mega Manila). How can you just factor in three Provinces and make a projection based on the percentage weighted universe that is favorable to you? How can you make an approximation for an entirely different Regional figures based on a chosen universe? That will be very lopsided or BIAS. And furthermore the data from other provinces were readily available; there is no reason why they should be left out. They could have easily used all the other provinces where ABS-CBN is so far ahead with the ratings, but they did not, why?
To say that a sample selected is bias(ed) needs proof. Since sinabi mo na bias ito, please show your mathematical proof na bias nga ang sample na ito.
Again, as long as you cannot MATHEMATICALLY prove na bias ang sample selection at ang formula ng nielsen, I think you are basing your arguments on speculation.
Eto ang crucial factor: Sino ang magfufund ng survey? At hanggang kelan? Willing kaya ang abs? I hope they would. Sila ang dapat mag-negate sa computations ng nielsen na nirequest ng gma. As long as hindi nag-iissue ng public apology ang nielsen regarding their computation of the over-all rating, it is up to abs to dispute it in an academic manner.That is one reason why AC Nielsen and AGB does not compute Ratings on a Nationwide basis. The technology and logistics are not yet there. It would not be accurate to do so. Thats why the ratings only show itemize Provinces so not to misled the public.
Additional explanation:Additional Explanation for your Additional Explanation:
Paano mo nasabi na masarap ang coke? Tumikim ka lang ng isa o dalawang bote, pwede na, di ba? At maniniwala ka na sa conclusion mo with just a few bottles, right?
Ang tanong ko: kailangan mo bang inumin ang lahat ng bote ng coke sa pilipinas para masabi mo na masarap ang coke? Siguro naman hindi praktikal iyun. Ganoon din ang surveys. If you think that four cities is not enough, then conducting a survey na covered ang mas maraming area is a good idea. hindi nga lang praktikal. ;)
Hi Excalibur, you have some good points but, this is how I see it:
Hehehe meron ngang "kung" but you implied it just the same. Making a point like that is argumentative, so, that in turn implies I made an opposite argument and saying I did not, make your "duda" statement totally pointless. Then why say it at all?
;D
Yes of course, definitely. By the very nature of the request it makes it biased in favor of GMA. Would they make a formulation or request a computation that would be disadvantageous to them? Every statistician knows that statistical data can easily be slanted. That's why formulas and computations must be agreed upon by all parties involved to make it aceptable. Out of 6 VHF Networks and 7 UHF Stations, how many approved the formula? How many of them initiated the Nationwide computation which is not NORMALY PRACTICED? OBVIOUSLY that computatin is not a standard practice in the industry. Do I need to say more?
;)
If it’s not an Ad then why did GMA answered it with an Ad, that’s the point. So you can't claim that ABS-CBN did what GMA did. So it was GMA that said, ABS-CBN released the contentious figures and we should believe it? Right! I read a lot of Tabloids and Broadsheets. Its part of my Job requirement, but I never encountered such data. All I've seen is the Provincial Ratings that were itemized and not lumped together.
For the sake of argument lets say ABS-CBN did released that said data, then why did GMA had to released the supposed counter-data on a different venue for a different audience? That doesn't make sense.
I don't need to show you a denial from ABS-CBN. Not denying the claim of GMA doesn't mean anything, it does not make it true. Besides if you can't even produce or point to a single alleged claim of ABS-CBN, then how do you expect me to see a denial? The burden of proof always lies on the accuser, and that’s you, not me. hehehe
;D
What!? Baka himatayin ang professors ko dati sa sinabi mo na yan! lol It might be the case for some statistical data depending on the purpose. But not here, where the contention involves regional/local statistics and figures. First of all you are going against the very principle and claim GMA is making. Which is they are number one Nationwide not just in one place (Mega Manila). How can you just factor in three Provinces and make a projection based on the percentage weighted universe that is favorable to you? How can you make an approximation for an entirely different Regional figures based on a chosen universe? That will be very lopsided or BIAS.
And furthermore the data from other provinces were readily available; there is no
reason why they should be left out. They could have easily used all the other provinces where ABS-CBN is so far ahead with the ratings, but they did not, why?
You are asking for proof? I already said the proof. You just don't want to hear them.
...What GMA does with it is their business, AC Nielsen is out of it...
Additional Explanation for your Additional Explanation:
You are not hearing me obviously. It's very evident on that Coke analogy. lol
That was precisely the point I've been making, if you only read my arguments with an open mind. You can't use a single universe and apply it to compute all different and distinct equations and problems that have their own given universe.
Why? Again the programming of the Networks does not exactly mirror Mega Manila's programming and vice versa. Bawat region may localize programming and each provinces have different figures.
To borrow your analogy; it's like tasting Coke and making a judgment based on it for the entire Coke flavors such as Vanilla, Cherry and Classic. Kung favorable sa Coke(GMA) yung review(ratings) kasi nasarapan(nagrate) sa Coke(Mega-Manila) then swerte nila. The prudent way to do it is taste all four different flavors so you can make a general conclusion that Coca-Cola Brands is good. You can’t assume or judge the four other Coke flavors based on that particular Coke nor can you make a sweeping statement that Coke Products are good based on a single flavor you tasted, because each flavors varied even if they are all Cola based.
I rest my case. ;D ;)
...It would not be accurate to do so. Thats why the ratings only show itemize Provinces so not to misled the public...
Where did ABS-CBN go wrong?
What is GMA-7 doing wrong?
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Subok uli kung mag-aapir na sa board! ;) ;)
Pinoy Big Brother simula po ngayong gabi!
obvious naman gma ang no. 1
so dapat hindi na pinacocompete ang abs sa gma dahil wala na talaga habol...
ang naglalaban ngayon sa no. 2 slot ay qtv 11 (kapuso din) and abs dahil no. 1 talaga gma yung ngang studio 23 ng abs wala na rin wenta eh
GMA earns more money based on an article in the Inquirer i read. Earning money meaning net income.
i think Inquirer is (partly) owned by GMA 7. ;)
for me: i prefer GMA 7 programs in-general.
ABS CBN is good at pirating talents built up by GMA(i.e. Angel Locsin, Toni Gonzaga) and when a certain talent has no use for them anymore, they discard them like yesterday's trash(i.e. Arnel Ignacio, Long Mejia). They also have a knack of copying formulas from other stations' shows.
Well, so does GMA. Heart Evangelista just transferred to GMA the other day.
In fairness to ABS-CBN, the stars they really build up become better actors. Angel Locsin for one. She's much better in Lobo than she was in her GMA soaps.
i think GMA got Heart cos she's not under ABS management for the past few months ... she decided to let Genesis (of Gary V) manage her, thus the fewer projects in ABS ... the way i see it, GMA gets the unloyal and few-project talents of ABS ... just my opinion though
From the Wall Street Journal (not AWSJ) April 25-27, 2008 issue:
(http://www.geocities.com/broadcast64/WSJournal.JPG)
In spite of GMA's full page ads glorifying their ratings lead over ABS, I have yet to see them being admired by their peers.
for great looks combined with talent and training of their artists, i choose abs-cbn ... more product endorsers come from this station ... a lot are proven bankable stars ... most of the talents can ACTUALLY sing, dance, emcee and/or act ... almost all dress up really well ... more than half can converse in acceptable english (one trait i still need to see/hear more from gma talents)
^
^
abs cbn has a lot of this so-called "bankable artists" because they are so good at getting talents from other stations at the top of their game, as already mentioned by a few posts before. sorry, they may have the better profile abroad, but i dont like their stylings.
I love GMA7 except Marian Rivera ;D
quo vadis karen davila? abangan mamaya...
(bts karen's hubby is with tv5 pala)
3 TV networks claim Monday ratings lead (http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20101111-302676/3-TV-networks-claim-Monday-ratings-lead)
sino kaya sa 3 ang nagsasabi ng totoo? ;D
lumipat na sa abs cbn ang sexbomb dancers ::)
just sharing my opinion that local channels has stepped up in news programs
i personally like how abs-cbn is handling news , birui mo parang cnn na sila they send people directly from where the news is happening may tao sila mismo sa site ng news which for me is really really good , you get the news straight from where it happens, libya, new zealand galing ,
though even i believe that they are still the best news carrier, i just hate it why cant they open anz and teleradyo to other cable networks sayang eh , quality news 24/7 kaso exclusive sa skycable lang eh , thats not news anymore its business na eh hehehe
channel 5 - aksyon tv galing a different view of news and different approach mahusay
gmanews tv channel 11, its about time , it took you time to have this sana noon pa , akin lang po eh tanggalin natin ang network war sa news channels lets leave it on our entertainment channels nalng, abs and tv5 are doing good in keeping this to minimal sana ganun din po sa gmanewstv
overall , kudos to abs, tv5 and gma keep it up
I still watch ABS CBN news over GMA, better yet ANC over ABS CBN because it has filtered down to the most relavant news of the day. But I prefer the late news of GMA over Bandila, I didn't like their format of discussing opinions thru iPad and iMac. They seem to follow CNN's programs, GMA copied iReport in YouScoop.
But there's a controversy going on with ABS-CBN's TV Patrol omission of Binay's name. It's still GMA who has no biases but their reporters are new and boring.
Binay: The one who cannot be named
http://politics.inquirer.net/politics/view/20110304-323367/Binay-The-one-who-cannot-be-named#
Nope, the stupid telenovelas.
Really? they don't know how much time a telenovela runs? or too much commercials?
The networks have the capability to bring forth worthwhile shows as seen with QTV and ANC. Why do they have to assume that the only way to make money is to bring down entertainment in its lowest form (kajologan) to be appreciated by the masses. if they only see the masses as uneducated fools who crave for crossdressing boys who put on ghastly make-up and dance erotically on primetime, then f&ck them all.
Between the two I prefer GMA not because they have a better programming but because in my place, ABS reception is not that good... back to GMA naman, wala na yatang maisip na story ang writer kasi ang mga tema ng storya puro agawan ng mga babae sa isang lalaki... nakakaumay na!! great relief na tuloy ang korean tv drama at least may mga twist ang mga storya...
Sampalan, sigawan pa. They may not only know but these TV stations are slowly conditioning the mind of the viewers that such circumstances are normal. The dialogue and attitudes of the characters are sometimes mimicked by people who are exposed to such. Later they may discover that they have already adopted the same behavior. Sana ito ang e-stop ng MTRCB. The way I see it these do not contribute to the improvement of the Filipino culture. :-[
Really? You appreciate QTV? ;D
E parang extension lang ng GMA yan, walang pinagkaiba.
Someone should tell those ABS-CBN newscasters that they look really stupid seated side-by-side with 2 laptops and an iPad in front of them. Do they have some kind of product placement deal with Apple? ::)
A laptop is still somewhat acceptable, but having an iPad on a stand in front of you while announcing the news looks freaking hilarious. :D
kapuso dahil sa eat bulaga
http://business.inquirer.net/37289/gma7-tv5-deny-merger-rumors
For a businessman like MVP, GMA is more profitable than ABS-CBN.
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’ ::)
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’ ::)
hanggang jan 31 na lang ito
May itatapat na ba sila sa Eat Bulaga?
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’ ::)
showtime ata ang papalit sa time slot
ginawa na nila dati
mahirap na pataubin yung katapat sa 7
baka isama rin nila si iza calzado kakalipat lang ::)
ginawa na nila dati
mahirap na pataubin yung katapat sa 7
agree! Piratahin na lang nila ung EB sa gma... :D
Eat Bulaga or It's Showtime?
FEB ako.... Forever Eat Bulaga! ;D
ung nasa showtime, isa sa annoying tv personalities ;D
Sir, hindi ko napanood openning nila..... may bago ba silang offer? Or same old, same old?
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D
Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako... :D
Eh bakit kaya sila ang longest running noon time variety show?
siguro dahil karamihan sa pinoy wala pa rin pinagbago? ;D
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D
Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako... :D
I think tinanggal ng abs ang EB because they can make more money producing their own noontime show. Ang EB kasi under TAPE productions kasi and naka-block time arrangement ata lang sila with GMA.
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D
Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako... :D
Sa tingin mo sino mas maraming pera, si Willie or si Vic Sotto? Ilan taon ka na ba dude?LOL ;D
Sa tingin mo sino mas maraming pera, si Willie or si Vic Sotto? Ilan taon ka na ba dude?
‘Eat Bulaga’ clobbers ‘It’s Showtime’ (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/switchingchannels/eat-bulaga-clobbers-showtime-092115515.html;_ylt=Al_MXEbVHd.GbnTYOs.5W6PiV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0ZTk0MjRiBG1pdANTZWN0aW9uIExpc3QgRlAgT01HBHBrZwMyODMzNzVkNi1jYjZhLTMzNTMtYWU4My1jNTAwZGU1YmY2MDEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhU2VjdGlvbkxpc3QEdmVyAzE4NjYxOTAwLTY0NDktMTFlMS1iN2JlLTE1YmE5M2E2NTg3YQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODFoMGdmBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3)
Napaka one sided naman nung story. Halatang super in favor sa EB.
EB may be an institution already. But the fact that ABS-CBN has tons of business (ie. Meralco, Sky, Maynilad, TFC, etc) they have more power and control.
both . . . hehehe ;) ;) ;) dahil halos lahat na yata ng mga talent show sa network na yan nasalihan ko na . . . hahaha tumabo din ako ng pera jan ahihihii ;D ;D ;D . . . ito list . . .
abs-cbn
1. palaboy band - 15k weekly finalist
2. mr.suave - 20k monthly finalist
3. boracay baby - 10k weekly finalist
4. rap talastasan - 5k daily winner
5. ano ka hilo - 10k
6. sing a dunk - 10k pot
7. singing bee - elimanation lang talo ako sa priest na kalaban ko lakas manalangin ahahaha... 5k
Cool naman :)
8. totoy bibo - grand finalist , daily , weekly almost 35k esttimate lang
diko na matandaan iba
gma7
1. video okray - olats 5k
2. sa pula sa puti - group to 5k ata
3. grand finalist tunog tao 90k group kami ng mga batang tondo
at nafeature ako sa gma 7 sa eyewitness hahaha main topic ahahaha...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iva0AA5hbA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtywA6s4gmM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewspF4SUgnQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGV5KjEwCEM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmEC1xcqHo&feature=related
ahahahaha . . .
Bad year for TV as ABS-CBN net income drops 25%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3821-bad-year-for-tv-as-abs-cbn-net-income-drops-25
GMA-7 net income in 2011 plummets 39%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3649-gma-7-net-income-in-2011-plummets-39
GMA7-TV5 deal price tag is P52.5-B: report
MANILA, Philippines - The group of businessman Manuel V. Pangilinan is close to sealing a deal estimated at P52.5 billion to purchase a controlling 80% stake in GMA Network Inc.
This was reported by the Inquirer on Monday, July 9, citing "several sources familiar with the discussions" on one of the most-expected deals in the country since it involves GMA-7, the second biggest media firm, and TV-5, the third biggest and chaired by Pangilinan.
Listed GMA Network is expected to comment on the report through a disclosure in the Philippine Stock Exchange.
Mediaquest Holdings Inc, the corporate vehicle typically used by the Pangilinan-led giant Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT), is the party that will effect the transaction, as was the case when the PLDT group bought other media assets in the past.
Inquirer said Pangilinan's group is in the process of organizing bank financing, equity shares for possible share swap, and the issuance of Philippine depository receipts. Pangilinan had said that the GMA-7 acquisition will likely be sealed this 2012 and that his group will pay cash to entice the GMA-7 controlling families.
http://www.rappler.com/business/8285-gma7-tv5-deal-price-tag-is-p52-5-b-report
pag nabili na ang gma7 ano na tawag sa mga talents nila? ;D
Magkano kaya price ng ABS CBN? At hindi na lng iyon ang binili ni MVP.?
I think ABS is killing GMA in primetime, I don't watch teleseryes but I heard good reviews sa TV shows ng 2, especially that Richard/Dawn show and Lorenzo's.. :)
I think ABS is killing GMA in primetime, I don't watch teleseryes but I heard good reviews sa TV shows ng 2, especially that Richard/Dawn show and Lorenzo's.. :)
That could probably be true, kaya nga sila nag-tatag team ng TV-5 just to bring down ABS. ;D
In one word - DESPERATION. :P
That could probably be true, kaya nga sila nag-tatag team ng TV-5 just to bring down ABS. ;D
In one word - DESPERATION. :P
it's more of a buy out than a tag team. ABC5 wants gma's market share and they can finally own GMA's roster of talents instead of just borrowing themparang na wrong moved yta in acquiring TV5.. :)
parang na wrong moved yta in acquiring TV5.. :)
Has anyone noticed TV Patrol ends around 7:30 PM lately. Inigsian na yata nila show to 1 hour.
ABS-CBN kahit nuong nandyan pa kami,
medyo nababakyaan ako sa format and style ng GMA eh,...
every morning sa GMA ako for news. Dunno why. hahaprang gumanda nga si bernadete last time i saw her sa tv mga wk ako. she's married right?
though I like Bernadette Sembrano sa ABS, so I switch din pag nagcommercial sa GMA
nakakanood ka parin sir ngayon ng abs-cbn?
mutya ng masa doris b. Kapamilya'
News program apologizes for flesh-eating hoax (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/581225/news-program-apologizes-for-flesh-eating-hoax)
Ito dapat hoax din...
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/27/14/erap-richest-metro-manila-mayor-binay-among-poorest
30% will be sold to Ramon Ang from shares of Gozon, Duavit, and Jimenez for 16B.
Atty Felipe Gozon will remain CEO.
Ramon Ang will be the biggest share holder but under agreement, the 3 original owners will be united thus still owns the majority.
geeeeeeeeez. read the first two pages of this thread until I had to skip to the last page...
network wars....THIS IS SERIOUS crap, PEOPLE!!! ;D ;D ;D
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/06/insta-scoop-melai-cantiveros-is-your.html
Niluto???
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Hanep!
Eat Bulaga is a block timer, they may as well change stations, say channel 5 and then what?
GMA's talents are going kapamilya....
Karen Davila is awesome.......beauty and brains....she makes more sense than ate Koring....
Ted Failon is more intellectual than kABAYAN, sorry to say, kabayan i think has been tainted....
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.
I know someone who knows Karen Davila personally and he swears that this lady is not how she projects to be
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.
good morning. what do you suggest in terms of not dumbing the massess sir? ;D
ABS CBN na lang,
Medyo bakya ang mga palabas at newscasting ng GMA eh,... Hehehe
ABS CBN na lang,
Medyo bakya ang mga palabas at newscasting ng GMA eh,... Hehehe
bakya crowd...napakarami namin......:D
can't argue with success. the show gives over 50k pesos to a lucky viewer everyday....
can you fault the bakya crowd for loving the show? >:D
okay lang naman yang aldub fever pero para pag-usapan kahit saan?
nagmimeeting kami minsan, isang pocket conversation ay tungkol kay aldub.
deym
No need to find fault.
Bakyang bakya, eh sana lang aasesso ang buhay ng pinoy dahil sa kabakyaan na yan, then wala akong reklamo.
Manood ng bakya kaysa maging productive. Maging financial literate pero unahin ang kabakyaan na yan.
I know someone who knows Karen Davila personally and he swears that this lady is not how she projects to be
Bakla pa nga yung isa!
Wow! napaka high standard pala nang mga pinoydvd members! aldub bakya!? wally bakya?! TVJ bakya?! sa kabilang station meron din naman mga bakya ah! Bakla pa nga yung isa!
oo nga naman sayang naman yung mamahalin mong LED TV at HT kung local stations ang papanoorin mo, bakya nga kasi.
Ba't di ka nalang kaya umalis nang Pinas? tutal hindi naman ata kayo kailangan nang bayan, baka nga half-half ka pa, at nagpapayaman lang sa pinas o feeling mayaman lang?!
Pero nang dahil sa mga bakyang programa na yan may napag uusapan tayo diba? nag bigay ka pa nga nang konting time at data bandwidth nang net mo nung nag post ka dito eh, diba? At dahil din sa mga bakyang programa na yan nakalimutan mo ang pinag aralan mo, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan kung bakit hindi maunlad ang bansa natin? diba? ang mga politiko ang may kasalanan! diba? baka nga yung ibang politiko na dahilan nang kahirapan eh kamag-anak nung mga iba diyan.
Kaya meron bakya programs at bakya crowd ay dahil masnakakarami ang mahirap kaysa mayaman sa Pinas, at hindi dahil sa isa kayo sa mayayaman (o mayayabang) eh, maari nyo nang lait-laitin ang mahihirap (bakya). At dahil din sa bakya crowd, yumaman ang mga idolo niyong artista at programa.
Baka nasosobrahan na kayo sa mga Bluray Hollywood Movies kaya di nyo na ma-appreciate ang simple bakya love story o comedy!
Wow! Ang lalabo nyo naman! Di na kayo maabot! (speaking ala babalu)
BABALA! (asawa ni... BABALU!) wag magpakalasing sa kasosyalan.... kung di mo matiis... umalis ka nang bansa... di ka naman kawalan siguro!
Wow! napaka high standard pala nang mga pinoydvd members! aldub bakya!? wally bakya?! TVJ bakya?! sa kabilang station meron din naman mga bakya ah! Bakla pa nga yung isa!
oo nga naman sayang naman yung mamahalin mong LED TV at HT kung local stations ang papanoorin mo, bakya nga kasi.
Ba't di ka nalang kaya umalis nang Pinas? tutal hindi naman ata kayo kailangan nang bayan, baka nga half-half ka pa, at nagpapayaman lang sa pinas o feeling mayaman lang?!
Pero nang dahil sa mga bakyang programa na yan may napag uusapan tayo diba? nag bigay ka pa nga nang konting time at data bandwidth nang net mo nung nag post ka dito eh, diba? At dahil din sa mga bakyang programa na yan nakalimutan mo ang pinag aralan mo, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan kung bakit hindi maunlad ang bansa natin? diba? ang mga politiko ang may kasalanan! diba? baka nga yung ibang politiko na dahilan nang kahirapan eh kamag-anak nung mga iba diyan.
Kaya meron bakya programs at bakya crowd ay dahil masnakakarami ang mahirap kaysa mayaman sa Pinas, at hindi dahil sa isa kayo sa mayayaman (o mayayabang) eh, maari nyo nang lait-laitin ang mahihirap (bakya). At dahil din sa bakya crowd, yumaman ang mga idolo niyong artista at programa.
Baka nasosobrahan na kayo sa mga Bluray Hollywood Movies kaya di nyo na ma-appreciate ang simple bakya love story o comedy!
Wow! Ang lalabo nyo naman! Di na kayo maabot! (speaking ala babalu)
BABALA! (asawa ni... BABALU!) wag magpakalasing sa kasosyalan.... kung di mo matiis... umalis ka nang bansa... di ka naman kawalan siguro!
bakya crowd...napakarami namin......:D
can't argue with success. the show gives over 50k pesos to a lucky viewer everyday....
can you fault the bakya crowd for loving the show? >:D
more than 100k in fact sir tony, plus motorcycle, a truck of cement among many others.
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?
naku, maraming ganyan, nasanay na ako sa ganyan, sa tipidpc ba meron ding ganyan?yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address. ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D
ang masasabi ko lang, rock and roll to the world.....;)
yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address. ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D
ito ba iyong mga tinataas ang sarili nilang produkto? :):):)sorry di ko alam dito sa pdvd hehehe
yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address. ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D
Office? Watching tv anf sleeping?
Parang gusto ko lumipat dyan ah. :-) :-)
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?ganun kabakya? ;D ;D ;D
baka lunch break ^-^
Every culture, though called in different ways has that "bakya" crowd, even the first world countries. Try watching local tv channels when travelling abroad and you will surely notice it. And most often, the "bakya" crowd is the loudest voice in the society because you know what they say; the empty cans rattle the most hehe
Medyo off ka dyan bro in saying the empty cans rattle the most. Please don't generalize that all bakyas are empty. Daming naming bakya bro.
Did you see the "Most often" at the start of my last sentence? Did I say that they always rattle like an empty can? If you are bakya and you don't rattle like an empty can then you shouldn't be offended. Don't make a big deal out of it. Like everyone else here, I am entitled to my own opinion.
Yan pala noong sabado. Walang masyadong trapik noon nung manggaling ako sa SM North papauwi.
kung wala ang EB nasaan kaya ang GMA ngayon ? namulat ako sa TV, EB ang pinapanood ch.2 pa.
documentary news : gmanews 11
the rest : abs-cbn na :)
kapag nagkaroon na ng bangayan ang dalawang noontime show... pinagbabawalan ko na manood ng noontime show ang bahay :):):)
kaya alam ko na kung saan hahanapin kasambahay namin tuwing tanghali... nasa kapitbahay :):):)
ABS-CBN apologizes to UPLB students over erroneous Binay stories (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/723611/abs-cbn-apologizes-to-uplb-students-over-erroneous-binay-stories#ixzz3mAnvvce0)
Sablay nanaman.... :D
Mga sumikat na tandem
ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE
GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)
Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7 >:D
Bro dpogs meron yun si Ding Dong Dantes and Marian Rivera di ba.... DongIan yata tawag. ;D
abs is just showing... how desperate they are
Ang lupit. One-sided sa twitter.
20M as of 3pm ang EB, from text capital to twitter capital na ang pinas! ;DI monitored my twitter feed about 30mins ago and abs cbn show's tweets suddenly dropped from 3M++ to 700K.. Why? Tweetbots?
Akalain mo nagtawag na lampaso pa din yung kabila. :-X
I monitored my twitter feed about 30mins ago and abs cbn show's tweets suddenly dropped from 3M++ to 700K.. Why? Tweetbots?
I think ABS should just sit back and take the noontime ratings blows for now. Gen Z has a very short attention span, anyway.
Mga sumikat na tandemyung tomden?
ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE
GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)
Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7 >:D
Mga sumikat na tandem
ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE
GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)
Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7 >:D
Mga sumikat na tandem
ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE
GMA
1. ALDUB
2. GoGeta
3. GoTenks
4. EriChard
5. LuJiko
Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7 >:D
May nag post sa FB ko nang pic na ito. Not sure if true or not.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/nbc/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nbc/media/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg.html)
nbc
Kita ko din sa twitter, president/founder ng fans club daw nya yun pati ng ibang abs stars. ::)
;D
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,gma,tv5 tagteam vs abscbn ?
Very seldom ako magka chance manood ng early morning show sa tv pero kanina habang I'm waiting for my wife sa hospital nagka chance pero wala rin kse tadtad ng commercial both unang hirit & it's counterpart sa ch2. CNN na Lang watched ko.
http://business.inquirer.net/203936/manny-pacquiao-tries-to-buy-into-gma-network-rejected
I tried watching GMA Teleseryes.....sobrang natawa ako sa acting nung mga "stars" nila...ang layo sa caliber ng mga ABSCBN talents. Parang Aldub lang ata ang sikat sa mga new talents ng GMA....most of these young stars are so unknown. Ang masakit pa ay yung mga medyo may pangalan na like Bela Padilla and Elmo Magalona ay lumilipat sa ABSCBN at sumisikat sila doon.
mag lalabas na din pala ang GMA ng TV box nila
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/584932/hashtag/how-gma-s-upcoming-digital-receiver-turns-screens-into-smart-tvs
tapos malabo naman ang abs sa kanila hahaha
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2016/11/ogie-alcasid-is-now-kapamilya.html
naikot na niya yung mga station >:D
Ganyan talaga pag nalalaos na, at wala ng show, kahit saan basta may raket! ;D Kahit lumunok ng ilang galon... hehe!
wala narin naman kwenta bubble gang. hehe. puro nalang kalandian. tatalunin pa ata sila ng going bulilit. hehehe. peace mga GMA lovers.
CNN Philippines for me....
ok lang talaga sa GMA ang GMA NEWS TV..
or how they remain objective on their episodes. just remember most of the good talents came from GMA too then shifted to GMA. Che Che Lazaro, Tina Monsod-Palma, Karen Davila etc.
or how they remain objective on their episodes. just remember most of the good talents came from GMA too then shifted to GMA. Che Che Lazaro, Tina Monsod-Palma, Karen Davila etc.
pagdating sa talent pag nalilipat ng GMA nabubulok ang artista. pag napupunta ng ABS gumagaling at sumisikat... yun lang yun.hehehe.
Di ba si tina monsod palma sa abs din galing?
Excuse me pooowh
Teee beeee patrol
^
tama talaga yang sinabi mo boss. wala kwenta ang GMA pag sa programs nila. ok lang talaga ang NEWS TV.
di ata maganda kasi talaga ang taga develop ng talent jan.
pero ang nakakapagtaka marami pa daw sila napapanalunan sa mga programa nila. parang gawa gawa lang nila mga awards eh.hahaha.
basta mga palabas sa GMA NEWS TV sir.. dun mga docu nila na magaganda.. pero sa GMA channel mismo naku po kung hindi cartoons, korean ang palabas.panira kasi NEWS ng ABS eh.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/592680/cbb/kapuso-network-posts-wider-leads-over-competition-in-nationwide-ratingsganyan nga ata talaga eh sir Philip. ;D
tapos ayon naman dun sa kabila sila ang nangunguna >:D
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/592680/cbb/kapuso-network-posts-wider-leads-over-competition-in-nationwide-ratings
tapos ayon naman dun sa kabila sila ang nangunguna >:D
Sky Cable ako eh, yun lang may libre HD na channel ABS-CBN.
maganda nga daw ba un recent mmk ni angel locsin. tsaka both sides presented
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This is one upcoming MMK episode I'd love to see with the beautiful Liza Soberano in it.
mas excited ako sa DARNA n suit nya. hahahaha
confirmed na si liza soberano na darna dba?
Um, meron kaya sa MMK episode yang 2-pc swimsuit muna while portraying Pia as a Binibining Pilipinas contestant? >:D
watching eat bulaga grabe tagal ng commercial approx mga 10 mins or about 7 tv ads. hindi ba nireregulate yung mg ganito?
Wala ata air... Maliban sa censorship... Nasa network na paano nila babalasahin mga palabas/patalastas nila. :( :( :(Halatang negosyo Lang. Yung for the impt viewers na sinasabi eh pra sa true followers Lang ng programa
^ Number 1? It's frickin' 2017 and this network is still broadcasting shows in STANDARD DEFINITION! Such an eyesore to watch low-res GMA shows on a 4k TV. Pang-CRT pa rin ang level eh.
ABS-CBN has a technical lead with a 1080i video quality.
Everything GMA right now is an eyesore. No wonder they're cutting down their shows. Missing the days where they can at least produce shows like Asian Treasures with Angel and Robin, etc.
sa documentaries nalang sila OK.. pero the rest garbage na..
Sa abs ba, anong okay?Ito....
Ito....
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Sa abs ba, anong okay?
maraming ok.. unang una maiksi lang ang commercial, maaayos ang mga palabas. hindi puro anime at koreanovela.. maayos mga talents..
Anong palabas ang okay?
sa GMA mo dapat itanong yan..
^
landi nalang kasi alam ng GMA kaya mga ganun ang pinapalabas. pati ang bubble gang ngayon sobrang wala ng kwenta.. puro nalang suso pinapakita dun. hahaha.
tatalunin pa sila ng going bulilit..
Anong palabas ang okay?
Para sakin news, documentary and eat bulaga(juan for all all for juan na segment lang)
I meant anong palabas ang okay sa abs.
Dahil mas maganda teleserye ng abs, better na sya sa gma?
Any teleserye you can recommend?
Critically acclaimed ba yang probinsyano?
Not. But compare to other teleserye ng gma it is way better well for me.
Its just between gma and abs the best for me is abs regardless if their teleserye shows are "critically acclaimed" or not. :) :) :)
How about you sir. Between abs and gma which is better? Siguro if youre looking for "crtitically a claimed" shows baka walang pumasa sa iyo na tv station sa atin :) :) :)
Akala ko kasi youre looking for just " okay" na palabas. Critically acclaimed pala hanap mo then i can honestly say - wala. :) :) :)
You named one show. Akala ko naman highly regarded yung show na yan since you singled it out ;D
Based on what i read here, gma does news better, but abs is better overall since the teleseryes are better? Tama ba?
To answer your question, i watch abs more (mornings) taon na yata lumipas since i watched something from gma.
You named one show. Akala ko naman highly regarded yung show na yan since you singled it out ;D
Based on what i read here, gma does news better, but abs is better overall since the teleseryes are better? Tama ba?
To answer your question, i watch abs more (mornings) taon na yata lumipas since i watched something from gma.
Kapamilyang kapamilya a ;D
Like i said, matagal na kong hindi nanonood ng gma shows. I was just asking how abs is better because when i watch, it's just meh to me. And to me, meh is meh.
As for talents, don't you think it's bad for talents to be under exclusive contracts? Tsaka, hindi ba naglilipatan rin sila kapag hindi narerenew?
Late night shows? You mean the likes of gandang gabi vice?
Morning shows? If i start watching from either network, I'd watch the same show the next day.
Teleseryes? Daily teleseryes are for afternoons, not primetime. Nakakasawa. And quality suffers. Kaya puro close ups at one liners teleserye ngayon e.
^
landi nalang kasi alam ng GMA kaya mga ganun ang pinapalabas. pati ang bubble gang ngayon sobrang wala ng kwenta.. puro nalang suso pinapakita dun. hahaha.
tatalunin pa sila ng going bulilit..
Kapamilyang kapamilya a ;D
Like i said, matagal na kong hindi nanonood ng gma shows. I was just asking how abs is better because when i watch, it's just meh to me. And to me, meh is meh.
As for talents, don't you think it's bad for talents to be under exclusive contracts? Tsaka, hindi ba naglilipatan rin sila kapag hindi narerenew?
Late night shows? You mean the likes of gandang gabi vice?
Morning shows? If i start watching from either network, I'd watch the same show the next day.
Teleseryes? Daily teleseryes are for afternoons, not primetime. Nakakasawa. And quality suffers. Kaya puro close ups at one liners teleserye ngayon e.
Sobrang desperate ng GMA to compete with ABS shows hehe!!! Ganda ng shows ng GMA pag sunday - day time haha!!! Lahat ng palabas nila si Jose makikita mo... ;D
GGV lang ba ang naririnig mo na late night shows nila? saka pansinin mo pag lumipat from ABS to GMA nagiging basura ang career.
hindi dahil sa kapamilyang kapamilya. just saying the truth. i dare you na ilatag mo ang pwede mong maipagmalaki sa GMA mo. dami mo pa sinasabi, ilatag mo..
kahit sa station ID palang milya milya ang layo ng quality ng pagkagawa ng ABS compare sa GMA. cartoons? kahit doon di ako bilib sa GMA. kayang kaya tapatan ng YEY channel yan. haha.
Agree on this.. kahit na sabihin na almost no value minsan mga palabas nila pareho but comparing production value and creativity talo talaga gma.. pati sa stock exchange talo eh...
Si dzbb ngaun lang nag implement ng teleradyo.. radyo na tv pa... tapos pakinggan mo yung jingle ng dzbb walang kwenta eh.. cheap na cheap.. si mike enriquez wala na din value kasi puro commercial.. may regular commercial tapos yung anchor mag commercial din
GGV lang ba ang naririnig mo na late night shows nila? saka pansinin mo pag lumipat from ABS to GMA nagiging basura ang career.
hindi dahil sa kapamilyang kapamilya. just saying the truth. i dare you na ilatag mo ang pwede mong maipagmalaki sa GMA mo. dami mo pa sinasabi, ilatag mo..
kahit sa station ID palang milya milya ang layo ng quality ng pagkagawa ng ABS compare sa GMA. cartoons? kahit doon di ako bilib sa GMA. kayang kaya tapatan ng YEY channel yan. haha.
Baka naman kasi wala talagang talent in the first place ;D
Have you been reading my posts? I thought I was clear na I haven't watched any GMA shows in a long time. Pano ko naman maipagmamalaki yun? ;D Tinatanong ko lang naman kung anu anong ABS shows ang worth watching ;D Based on your posts, mukhang wala. Pero you give praise to GMA documentaries. And yet better ang ABS ;D
Your words betray you ;D
yes! kasi marunong ako tumingin at mag compare. kaya ko nasabing much better ang documentaries ng GMA over ABS. eh ikaw?
basahin mo mga reply mo. we are comparing both station pero walang nakukuhang sagot na matino sayo. wag mo sabihin paulit ulit na " anong show ng ABS ang worth" kasi we are not talking about ABS alone, thread ito ng comparison.kaya nga my votings eh. i need your opinion o comparison para sabihin na mas better ang GMA over sa ABS.
tatanungin nalang kita ng simple ano mas better ABS o GMA? ayan nalang sagutin mo..
I think he cant compare since sinabi naman niya na di siya nanood ng GMA for a long time na kaya "siguro" ang personal choice nya for TV (morning) is abs cbn though wala nga lang siyang makitang "okay" na teleserye (palabas) sa abs ayon sa kanyang panlasa. :) :) :)
bros baka may nakakaalam lang. sama na lahat ng tv & radio stations. their asking donations sa lahat ng calamities & tragedies, recent yung sa marawi. how sure we are na yun ay napupunta sa dapat puntahan at hindi sa bulsa lang ng mga taga himpilan? meron bang govt or non govt na nagmomonitor nito? may broacasted na bank acct, kanino yun? easy racket ito kung tutuusin. yung small time impostor nakakadale ano pa kaya yung talagang taga loob ng giants broacasting co.
hay kala ko kung ano na, bakit may HBO? di ba ABS and GMA ang thread? ???
bros baka may nakakaalam lang. sama na lahat ng tv & radio stations. their asking donations sa lahat ng calamities & tragedies, recent yung sa marawi. how sure we are na yun ay napupunta sa dapat puntahan at hindi sa bulsa lang ng mga taga himpilan? meron bang govt or non govt na nagmomonitor nito? may broacasted na bank acct, kanino yun? easy racket ito kung tutuusin. yung small time impostor nakakadale ano pa kaya yung talagang taga loob ng giants broacasting co.
I'm sure may audit ang mga yan at takot ang mga foundation nila (kasi usually dun pinapadaan ang mga ganyang activities) na masangkot sa anumalya kasi reputasyon nila ang nakasalalay. Isang anumalya tapos yan, wala nang magdo donate. Kahit isang tao lang na nangupit damay ang lahat pati organizer. I'm sure they're also covering their tracks. Pwede kasi silang makasuhan ng fraud at siguradong malaki ang implikasyon nyan sa kumpanya. Mukhang kailangan ding mag apply ng lisensya as donee institution.Sana nga bro. Para hindi ot wala ako mapili sa 2
G Diaries
Mukhang tatakbo ang ale o wala nang magawa hahaha
Mulawin- 2017 na sagwa pa rin ng camera trick. Low budget ba or bano pa rin tyo gumawa ng movies? Sorry if ot
Is there a movie or are you referring to the current teleserye? I had seen a few minutes of the latter and I also thought na masagwa din, mainly green screen lang ito done inside a studio. I also think na medyo low-budget kasi hindi actual location ang shooting.Sorry yung teleserye. Pinakita Lang while watching news kanina. Yung lumilipad prang shoot nung unang panahon pa
Mulawin- 2017 na sagwa pa rin ng camera trick. Low budget ba or bano pa rin tyo gumawa ng movies? Sorry if ot
Pinipilit sa LOW budget kasi LOW talent din... ;Dha ha..the truth naman eh. :)
You forgot to put "less" after class and talent. Lolha ha.. ;D
You forgot to put "less" after class and talent. Lol+1
i saw Arnel Pineda sa eat bulaga singing w/ young boy contestants. after the signing interview sya ni allan k....show some respect naman, hes an international rock starbakit hinipuan ba? seriously anong ginawa?
parang nagmukhang baguhan sa acting si Aljur sa Probinsyano.
dati ng "ham actor" maski nasa gma pa sya...tuod umarteha ha..dito ko lang napansin nung nalipat sa 2..magaling pa si Aura eh.. ;D ;D ;D
dati ng "ham actor" maski nasa gma pa sya...tuod umartebakit sa personal mukhang maarte hahaha
http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/multimedia/slideshow/05/31/17/in-photos-20-kapuso-turned-kapamilya-stars
May natitira pa ba sa GMA? Halos lahat ng sikat o dating sikat nasa 2 na.
EB is not even gma owned.
ABS is good in doing teleserye & the actors are more known to the filipinos than GMAs.
Tagal na akong Hindi nag watch ng local channel, tried now sa news both abs & gma nainip ako sa haba ng commercials. Back to movies na lang
Same here. The commercials are long and annoying. So I end up switching to other channels or watch straight international news via internet streaming.local station ang malupet sa commercial, greedy!!!
A little off-topic, but I noticed that UNTV has a better mix of primetime news material. Not a hodge-podge of too many CCTV news clips which eat up most of their air time.
In hot water nanaman ang ABS CBN for their new Teleserye titled - BAGANI.
NCIP to ABS-CBN: 'Immediately rectify' portrayal of Bagani in teleserye
https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/197594-national-commission-indigenous-peoples-warning-abscbn-bagani
It's actually their job.
And nothing better to do.
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Yung Ang Probinsyano parang nagiging mala Jack Bauer ang storyline hehe
yung walang katapusang malas tapos di maubos ubos ang kontrabida? >:DSi choco martin ang bida? Bwahaha
Si choco martin ang bida? Bwahaha
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GMA because....
Pansin ko pati sa Ang Probinsyano, they are trying to revive stars from before. Yung mga nalaos na then giving them another chance in showbusiness, which is good I guess helping them out. Yung nakulong na dating child actor CJ ata yun pati si Mystica.Sa tingin ko Bro sa haba ng story naubusan na ng artists kaya kinikuha na kahit sino...yung mag amang lapid balita ko kinuha din. Eto malamang politics eto kse tatakbo ang mag ama sa next coming election.
Sana andun din si Madame Auring hahaha
Tingin ko mabait 'tong si Choco Martin sa labas ng showbiz.
Pansin ko pati sa Ang Probinsyano, they are trying to revive stars from before. Yung mga nalaos na then giving them another chance in showbusiness, which is good I guess helping them out. Yung nakulong na dating child actor CJ ata yun pati si Mystica.
Sana andun din si Madame Auring hahaha
Tingin ko mabait 'tong si Choco Martin sa labas ng showbiz.
Siguro mas mura kasi ang talent fee nila as compared to currently popular actors..... >:D
tumutulong talaga si coco sa mga laos na mga artista. tama sabi ni koolkat.
napakabait na tao yang si coco. kapitbahay ko ngayon ang personal assistant nyan, sya mismo nagkukwento gaano kabait si coco at kung gaano ka strikto pagdating sa pera ng mga tinutulungan nya.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/list/tag/abs-cbn-ball
may pantapat ba
so parang si FPJ din pala in real life..
may natira pa bang singer sa gma?
jumping sinking ship?
Vice ganda-abueva magjowa daw?
may natira pa ba sa GMA? si Bitoy na lang ata at yung Eat Bulaga cast eh.EB is not owned by GMA. They can pull out and transfer to other networks if they want to.
eto yung ky marian.. panoorin nyo ang idol nyo. hahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE)
Wala pa lang Ang Probinsyano thread dito? :-)
Matindi pala away ng PNP vs Ang Probinsyano. Entertaining away nila.
Yari Ang Probinsyano production cause PNP are withdrawing their resources being used in the production. Mahihirapan na rin sila makakuha ng police clearance sa mga shoots nila.
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my TVplus Go na pala galing ah
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters (https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters)
House of Representatives freezes ABS-CBN franchise renewal (https://www.pep.ph/news/143850/house-of-representatives-freezes-abs-cbn-franchise-renewal-a718-20190612)
Netizens slam ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of female cops
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142258/netizens-slam-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-female-cops
PNP may revoke pact with ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of lady cops
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142355/pnp-may-revoke-pact-with-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-lady-cops
Netizens slam ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of female cops
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142258/netizens-slam-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-female-cops
PNP may revoke pact with ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of lady cops
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142355/pnp-may-revoke-pact-with-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-lady-cops
yang kardong burat na yan, dapat tigilan na nya....
kung hindi dahil sa probinsyano, hindi na dapat nakabalik sa pulitika si lito lapid...
'Goin Bulilit' to end after 14 years on air (https://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/07/25/19/goin-bulilit-to-end-after-14-years-on-air)
this is better than GMA's Bubblegang
Bubble Gang = tv porn :) :)
Bamboo is soooo overrated! Just a glorified yeller!
Tapos maglalabas ang ABS ng prequel story ni Cardo
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their plots insults the intelligence, kahit pa alam natin na make believe lang....
saka yung umaway sa kanila na cpnp albayalde, hepe pala ng ninja cop....ako ma si kardo, malulumbay ako...
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Dennis Uy getting ready na to acquire ABS CBN. ;D
Dennis Uy expanding into entertainment, media businesses (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.philstar.com/business/2019/12/11/1976114/dennis-uy-expanding-entertainment-media-businesses/amp/)QuoteMANILA, Philippines — Dennis Uy is looking to expand into the media and entertainment business.
The Davao-based businessman has formed Udenna Communications Media and Entertainment Holdings Corp. which will be folded into his listed company ISM Communications Inc.
“Udenna Communications Media and Entertainment Holdings Corp. is intended to be the parent entity that holds the Udenna Group’s shares in telecommunications, media and entertainment businesses,” ISM Communications said in a disclosure yesterday.
sina igan, joel r. zobel at ali sotto ok sakin bilang news anchor pero ung iba, nayayabangan ako, arrogante ang dating pra sakin kung magsalita at magbalita.. mga ine-interview panay sinasakyan lang ang issue, ayaw diretsahin mga dapat itanung, gusto pang patalunin sa patag ang mga tao sa pagpapahayg ng balita..
sa abs nman, si Vic-Lat Lima kulang na lang dilaan ang kuyukot ni pdutz kakapuri, umaasam na mapapansin para mabigyan ng posisyon sa gabinete.. >:(
Ito ba sir? ;Diyan nga!! tumpak!!
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bayad utang haaay yan ang poreber sa pinoy politix
$$$ kailangan kaya un big biz at mayayaman tumataya sa mga ksbayo nila. psg nsnalo may dibidendo
kaya alamin nyo mga political donors sa kampanya
me? prepreho yan. weder weder. kaya may mga naging noveau rich at msy mga yumaman pa
pag olats ka naman, alam na
ako solid k vote Wisely
iyan nga!! tumpak!!
yang maitim ang batok na lugain may putok sa kiLi-kiLi..!! :o
anong pangalan niyan sir?Orly Trinidad
kahit sino pa iuupo jan pare pareho ng likaw ng bituka yan. hindi mag iinvest ang mga yan sa campaign kung di nila mababawi..kung ibabalik ang death penalty sa heinous crime, pabor ako basta mapasama ang corruption, polygamy/ having a mistress of public officials sa heinous crimes,
kung ibabalik ang death penalty sa heinous crime, pabor ako basta mapasama ang corruption, polygamy/ having a mistress of public officials sa heinous crimes,
tyak pati abs at gma willing maging financial sponsor un eh kung papasa sa lower & upper house, pati kay pdutz, me kabit..
Bakit nga ba hindi pa na renew franchise nila nung PNOY admin?
Hindi ba premature with still 6 years remaining? Take for example the contract with Manila Water? If I'm not mistaken it was prematurely renewed in 2009...some 13 years too early. Di ba galit na galit si Duterte masyadong maaga ni renew?Hindi galit maaga renewed. Dahil sa onerous provision.
Hindi galit maaga renewed. Dahil sa onerous provision.
Bakit nga ba hindi pa na renew franchise nila nung PNOY admin?Kasi hindi renewal ng franchise. New franchise dahil may labag sa franchise nilabag ang abs which has sa 200 pesos penalty. So to have a clean start new franchise. As to why hindi tinuloy, because of pride. Nirequest ng tongressmen makipagmeeting kay lopez. Mga underlings lng pinapunta. Kaya ayun pumusta with 75 percent chance. E talo kaya shutdown ang consequence. Now kung ano ano reason sinasabi. Simple logic and science lang yan. Expired franchise. Tapos ang discussion. Now NTC pa may kasalanan. Sabi NTC joint resolution ng senate at congress to grant provisional franchise. E hindi nagawa so stop. Kahit na ako sa ntc ganun din gawin ko. Kasi every action ng ntc may document kasi sila implement lng base sa docs. Ano hawak docs ng ntc? Puro opinion ng doj, congress, etc. Hindi pwede yan. Dapat legal docs like joint resolution. Kumbaga yung may legal legs to stand.
Duterte initially ranted because of the onerous provisions. Then he ranted why was it prematurely renewed/extended still containing the onerous provisions. It should have only been renewed/extended close to expiration date daw dapat or something to that effect.After thought nalang yun early renewal. Actually standard provision yun sa supply contracts. Ang problem lang MVP and Ayala applied those provisions. MWSS naman patay mali kasi you know what. Hindi man lang question real reason bakit singilin.. Ang reason? Kasi nasa contract.. valid reason is lugi sila due to inflation. Kung runaway inflation and with losses understandable yun to apply. Yun ang purpose ng provision. Hindi to increase profit.
After thought nalang yun early renewal. Actually standard provision yun sa supply contracts. Ang problem lang MVP and Ayala applied those provisions. MWSS naman patay mali kasi you know what. Hindi man lang question real reason bakit singilin.. Ang reason? Kasi nasa contract.. valid reason is lugi sila due to inflation. Kung runaway inflation and with losses understandable yun to apply. Yun ang purpose ng provision. Hindi to increase profit.
Bakit hindi pa na aksyunan nung 2014? Hindi ba premature? What if.a controversial issue cropped up after? You don't want to be tied up for another 25 years by renewing it prematurely. Look at the contract of Manila Water which was prematurely renewed was it 13 years too early?
Guilt is obviously rearing its ugly head. Where is Cayetano hiding? If I'm not mistaken, he was even absent in yesterday's plenary session in the House.
agree for public officials, kaso bawal sa konstitusyon ang class legislation...i-aamenyendaan muna sir tony ang phil. cons. pero may magpasa kyang legislator..? ;D
Hindi siya afterthought. Hindi ba na-cancel na yun renewal/extension? And going back to my initial post....If hindi inapply yung sinabing onerous provision no issue. Contract is just a piece of paper. Di ba? Sa akin hindi issue yung provision. Ang issue inapply yung provision kasi nasa contract. Hindi kayo business partner. Tinira ka patalikod. Kasi same lng provision sa supply contract namin sa isang company. Pero in the duration of the contract hindi nila inapply. So no issue sa side namin. Pero if inapply nila with valid reason we will understand. Pero if supplier namin same reason kasi nasa contract kahit na laki income, Onerous din sa company namin yun. I hope you get my point.
So ayaw ni Duterte to be tied up to the onerous provisions because the contract was renewed/extended prematurely right?
If hindi inapply yung sinabing onerous provision no issue. Contract is just a piece of paper. Di ba? Sa akin hindi issue yung provision. Ang issue inapply yung provision kasi nasa contract. Hindi kayo business partner. Tinira ka patalikod. Kasi same lng provision sa supply contract namin sa isang company. Pero in the duration of the contract hindi nila inapply. So no issue sa side namin. Pero if inapply nila with valid reason we will understand. Pero if supplier namin same reason kasi nasa contract kahit na laki income, Onerous din sa company namin yun. I hope you get my point.
Sa tingin mo ba apply again nila from now to end of contract? Hindi na di ba kasi friends na sila?
Pwede naman hindi na change contract pero may agreement nd apply yung onerous provision. That is a win win solution. Kaso wala na ma ambunan if you know what I mean.
Bakit hindi na aksyunan nung 2014? They have two years. Because they gambled and lost. Simple. Hindi lihis yan. Actual yan. In short expired franchise mo so stop. Aminado abs so stop din sila. Yung hindi naka intindi binigyan color.
wala akong pakialam dyan sa mga politika o politiko, basta mawala lang si Vice Ganda ok na ako :)
wala akong pakialam dyan sa mga politika o politiko, basta mawala lang si Vice Ganda ok na ako :)
+1correct! ;)
hindi magandang ihemplo.. ang galing mangaral lagi pero sya tong madalas mang insulto.
si Cardo nawala na pala sa ere.baka nagce-celebrate ng birthday..!! ang tagal na ng probinsyano ni minsan hindi nakita mag-birthday.. ;D
anyone using iwant app? may live free streaming ba yun or need mag subscribe?
feeling ko parang nawalan ng buhay ang local tv networks simula nung nawala ang ABS CBN..
parang si batman at joker lang.. pag walang competition parang wala effort mag excel yung networks..
umiiyak si Ted Failon habang nagpaalam sa network...yung anti mining advocacy nya ituloy pa kaya?
https://news.abs-cbn.com/life/08/21/20/karen-davila-amy-perez-others-congratulate-anthony-taberna-gerry-baja-on-contract-with-dzrhMBC ang DZRH sila din may ari ng Star City kung di ako nagkakamali.
Matagal na palang nag jump ship ‘tong dalawang unggoy na’to.
Medyo marami rami na rin ang lilipat sa ibang station tulad ng TV5 kaya pala quiet ang ibang artista sa isyu ng ABS CBN. Pati ‘tong Vice Ganda may sariling network na rin. Iniwan na ang mga Lopezes. Negosyo lang walang personalan.
Nabasa ko confirmed daw lilipat si Ted Failon sa TV5. Si Luchi Cruz-Valdez daw ata ang kumuha.;D ;D
Sabi daw kapitbahay ko channel 11 daw nakuha ng ABS CBN?
MGB halloween specials (i think replays on the classic episodes) are on ABS-CBN News YT channel starting today
Dapat yata kasama na dito ang Ch 5. Very strong contender na sila. Dati naka hook ako sa EB Bawal Judgemental daily but is not watching anymore. Di na interesting ang mga guests at huhulaan lately plus I find Paolo Ballesteros so annoying.
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totoo ba yung nag tetrending na naka antabay ang ABS CBN sa manila bay para sa possible wash out ng dolomites nung bagyong rolly pero umuwi silang luhaan?langya andami kong nakikitang post. pati bagyo daw nakisama.
totoo ba yung nag tetrending na naka antabay ang ABS CBN sa manila bay para sa possible wash out ng dolomites nung bagyong rolly pero umuwi silang luhaan?langya andami kong nakikitang post. pati bagyo daw nakisama.sigurado naman na hindi lang ABS-CBN media ang nakabantay dyan pero bakit ABS lang ang tinitira sa SocMed, so alam na sino may pakawala dyan billion ba naman ang pondo.
totoo ba yung nag tetrending na naka antabay ang ABS CBN sa manila bay para sa possible wash out ng dolomites nung bagyong rolly pero umuwi silang luhaan?langya andami kong nakikitang post. pati bagyo daw nakisama.
Published November 1, 2020 3:38pm
By MA. ANGELICA GARCIA, GMA News
With Tropical Cyclone Wind Signal No. 4 raised over Metro Manila on Sunday morning due to Typhoon Rolly, things still appeared to be quiet at Manila Bay’s dolomite beach, according to a tweet by Super Radyo dzBB’s Isa Avendaño Umali.
At 11:30 a.m. on Sunday, rain and slight seas were seen at the “white sand” beach.
So pati GMA umuwi ng luhaan?
Slight seas, rain seen at Manila Bay ‘white sand’ beach (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/762280/slight-seas-rain-seen-at-manila-bay-white-sand-beach/story/)
sigurado naman na hindi lang ABS-CBN media ang nakabantay dyan pero bakit ABS lang ang tinitira sa SocMed, so alam na sino may pakawala dyan billion ba naman ang pondo.
^sa concert yata yun incident ni Bigornia dati. They both deserve each other.
saw the article tonight
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/168448/unscripted-doris-bigornia-earns-ire-of-viewers-during-the-script-concert
hahaha! that last sentence talaga.....remember, meron na din incident yang si Bigornia sa isang cinema ata na umasta asta ng akala mo kung sino.kupal pala talaga
Tama yan para matanggal na ang eyesore ng TV Patrol >:D
doris bigornia vs. christy fermin, kanino kayo?Wala bro. Parehong salot Sa Showbiz yan. Puro kabaduyan At pera Lang katapat
Tama yan para matanggal na ang eyesore ng TV Patrol >:D
Naubos na yata ang kamag-anak at mahal sa buhay ni Cardo, kaya wala nang maisip na storyline.Baka magkaron ng bago,yung convoy ng vaccine i hijack tapos pipigilan ng Cardo.
franchise pa more......eh indi pala kailangan eh.....
Oo nga, opportunity sana for GMA to shine, but they busted it. Dumbing down our poor countrymen who were left with no choices. Instead, they acted like a monopoly that dishes out rubbish shows. Even their news and current affairs programs that used to be intelligent and incisive are now also mababaw at bobo. Moreso their supposedly entertainment fare are gutter level in content, scripts and styling, too inferior to ABS-CBN’s that can now only be accessed via cable and online. Tapos overloaded pa ng commercials. Don’t wonder if the rest of our compatriots get dumber with these programming.
malapit na ulit mabigyan ng franchise.....
Dahil Wala magawa naisipan ko mag tv Baka May News. PI si bong revilla May tv show. Off ko ulit. After an hour on ko ulit sanhkatutak na commercial naman hinintay ko tapos “magpakailanman” Lang pala palabas. Nanonood ba kayo ng ganitong programa? Dapat isara na rin itong 7 kung ganyan Lang.
I dont watch local tv channels anymore.. lalong naging basura programs ng GMA eh.. even their news program.. wala na masyado documentaries..puro kmjs na lang... tapos ang TV5 wala din... its their time to shine din sanaSame w you bro I don’t watch local even foreign Tv shows kse Wala na ako cable. Bumili Lang si mrs ng local black box. Naisipan ko Lang yesterday. Paminsan minsan Watch ako News pro hindi ko rin natatapos kse Puro commercial at nabasa ko na rin dito most of the topics.
Langya. You know how low it is when local news uses terms such as "dinekwat".
How low can you go! 🤣
Langya. You know how low it is when local news uses terms such as "dinekwat".
How low can you go! 🤣
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kapuso na si JLC
Di ko alam bakit nagagandahan ako ngayon kay Bernadette Sembrano. Parang gumaganda sya as she ages.parang si pinky webb.. lalong gumaganda.. ^-^
parang si pinky webb.. lalong gumaganda.. ^-^
charo santos ?si Bea..
yung kumpare ko who is a technical director sa GMA was telling us na sobrang laki daw ng na generate na income ng GMA 7. balita daw sa kanila e mag a-announce ang management na bibigyan ng bonus lahat ng employees.weder-weder ika ni erap.., ^-^
sa loob loob ko, taena yang matatanggap niyo, kita dapat nung mga nawalan ng trabaho sa ABS na ngayon hindi malaman paano itatawid mga buhay nila. :P
Looks like ABS-CBN won’t get any franchise even with new government admin. Manny Villar gets the former frequencies.
Just saw this from the feeds so please confirm too.
BREAKING: The National Telecommunications Commission confirms Pastor Apollo Quiboloy’s Swara Sug Media Corp. — also known as Sonshine Media Network International (SMNI) — was awarded Channel 43. Aliw Broadcasting Corp., meanwhile, was granted Channel 23.yang SMNI ang totoong balita ayon kay Tigkal and yung iba pang DDS dito
^ I am not knowledgeable about frequencies at all but I thought it is limited thus the big issue 2 years ago during the franchise renewal.
the NTC should be made a constitutional body like the CHR, COA, Ombudsman, relatively free of political influence....not beholden to the crooks in congress...
as if they are not indebted to those who appointed them. maybe heads of constitutional commissions should also be elected just like the DA in USA?
I didn't know puro mga ganitong tema nang pinapalabas ng GMA "public affairs". Wala man lang nag c-call out. Ito na ba gusto talaga ng mga pinoy? Millions of views pa. And don't bother reading the comments. Nakaka suka!
https://fb.watch/gHFeUMarOl/
Mga threesome, sex addicts, kabit etc...
It's Showtime will take place of the defunct Tahanang Pinakamasaya over at GMA 7's noontime slot. Business is business for the Gozon's.
Bakit hanggang ngayon wala parin HD yung GMA? Yung ABS last 2015 pa ata sila nagka HD. Nawalan na sila ng franchise pero yung GMA naka SD parin hanggang ngayon