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High-Def => General HD Discussion => Topic started by: JayRob on May 05, 2013 at 02:12 PM
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Which is better?
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been a skycable subscriber for over 10 years but when i transferred to a new house non was available kaya went to destiny pero malabo at pinagtyagaan ko for more than 2 years. last month i switched to cignal and i'm very happy with it. pero if sky lang is available sa sky na ako kasi with the horror stories of cignal losing signal when there is heavy rains or a typhoon and if mawala sa allignment with the satellite you'll have to pay service fee of P600. so far hindi ko pa naman na experience but come the rainy season...let's see, hopefully hindi naman mawala sa alignment.
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they are both okay
Cignal is HD everywhere, Sky is not, as it depends on service area
Cignal packages are okay, except for Sky proprietary channels which they cannot carry
So, it is the subscriber who has to decide.
they both carry the most premium HD channels so far.
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sa tingin ko mas maganda ang HD package ng Cignal kahit compute'n mo.
problema kasi sa sky mahal ang ppv at nasa separate package ang nba premium which is additional cost.
ang maganda lang sa sky is naka line kaya no worries sa signal interruption.
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mas maganda at affordable mga package ng cignal, mas marami nga lang hd channel ang sky kung galit ka pera sa sky cable kana...hehe
un lang talo ka sa customer support ng cignal
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Heard there's already Cignal over Fibr (fiber optic Internet). May bundle sila. With this, there's no need for a satellite dish.
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Heard there's already Cignal over Fibr (fiber optic Internet). May bundle sila. With this, there's no need for a satellite dish.
Yah meron na problem is pag wala naman Fibr sa location. One more cheal PPV sa Cignal pag mga 2 months before the fight 100 pesos lang subscription basta maaga mag subscribe. Mag 1 year na subscription ko pero sa experience ko wala naman issue pag malakas ulan and maulap. ;D ;D
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Gusto ko sana ipapreterminate yung Sky DualDef ko since meron na kaming Fibr. Meron silang plan na add 999(19 HD channels) sa mga naka 8mb Fibr plan. Problem ko lang is that aside from that 999, meron pang additional 230 per box every month. So kung 2 tv mo, may dalawa ka ring box, 460 pesos +999 ang babayaran mo.
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that is cheap, I believe that add on 999 is already plan1590. thus you save P600 on subscription and it is now 23 HD channels.
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Cignal is the best.
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Cignal is the best.
::) di ka naman biased? ::)
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::) di ka naman biased? ::)
fair na fair. coming from an unbiased source yan bro. :D
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fair na fair. coming from an unbiased source yan bro. :D
ilang beses ko ba pwede gamitin yung eye roll emoticon? ;D
::)
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Mods, please merge with the below thread...
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,177319.0.html
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Ill leave this topic open for the HD section.
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Typhoon labuyonjust passed us... Any updates from CIGNAL users? Very much interested.
Thanks!
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Typhoon labuyonjust passed us... Any updates from CIGNAL users? Very much interested.
Thanks!
Cignal user here moonwalk paranaque.
Happy to say that labuyo was no match for cignal's signal. :)
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cignal kasi walang skycable sa amin. atleast my alternative.
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Cignal user here moonwalk paranaque.
Happy to say that labuyo was no match for cignal's signal. :)
Thank you! Last question... How was your total cash out? And do you pay a monthly amount formthe box? I'm a bit confused with the payments in their site. Many thanks again!
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Less than 1100 all in all coz of the current promo (switching ako from destiny, although i still retained it) so ang sunod na bayad ko is after 2 months pa. I got plan 990 by the way. Plus 100 per month for the box maintenance fee. So i expect to be billed 1090 per month when my bills start to come.
I dont want to set your expectations too high. Syempre may signal drops when the rain gets hard. Pero balik agad sya pag tumila ng konti.
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atleast po sa Cignal, alam na po natin na pag makapal ulap at bubuhos ang malakas na ulan, affected talaga ang reception. Sa part ng Sky, I am still wondering, palagi nawawalan ng signal ang subscribers nila, mostly primetime. Yung signal interruption umaabot pa ng days.
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Obviously, at this very moment, and with all this rain, patay si cignal.
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kahit maulan meron pa rin kaming Cignal.
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mas maganda at affordable mga package ng cignal, mas marami nga lang hd channel ang sky kung galit ka pera sa sky cable kana...hehe
un lang talo ka sa customer support ng cignal
how does SD channels in Skycable compare with cignal. I don't have have skycable but cignal sd channels are so blurred, mas okay pa ang analog free to air channels, kung mayroon aerial
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OKay naman po ba ang reception ng Cignal around project 4 QC area? Nagiisip ako between Sky and Cignal after ko ipaterminate yung destiny namin
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OKay naman po ba ang reception ng Cignal around project 4 QC area? Nagiisip ako between Sky and Cignal after ko ipaterminate yung destiny namin
Kahit saan sa pinas yan sir, dapat pareparehas lang ang reception ni cignal - bar weather conditions in your vicinity. At syempre sa sipag ng installers mo siguraduhing maganda tutok ng dish mo sa satellite ng cignal.
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Sorry for necroposting pero I just want to add my opinion
Cignal
Pros
-Nationwide coverage (dahil satellite ang gamit nya)
-Pay TV via Broadband component seems more stable versus the competitor (Cignal via PLDT Fibr > Sky On-Demand via Sky Broadband)
-Plans and Packages have more linear scale
-Better Prepaid offerings
-Maybe one or two exclusive channels na wala pa sa rival (e.g. Tru TV; Kix in High Definition, Disney XD Asia, etc.)
-Easier deployment of infrastructure in certain areas like mall or convention center etc. (e.g. During the Animax Carnival Philippines 2015, si Cignal lang ang may live running broadcast ng Animax.....while sa Sky Cable booth, puro loop recording and replay ang Animax na pinapakita sa TV nila)
-More than 1 Million total subscribers (as of October 26, 2016). Cignal is currently the Pay TV operator in the Philippines with the most number of total subscribers.
-Dolby audio option is in effect
Cons
-No Select/Ala-carte option
-Sport channel offerings in HD are limited atm (e.g. no Fox Sports 1 HD and Fox Sports 2 HD and wala rin Bein Sport, ASN and Setanta.....which the rival has)
-Cignal Watermark Logo can be annoying (lalo na yung placement nya sa Animax channel)
-Some say due to the nature of Satellite TV nawawala daw ang signal pag umuulan.....
-Cignal does not have the most channel lineup offering of any Pay TV operator in the Philippines......not even close
Sky Cable
Pros
-Longest running Pay TV operator in the Philippines (can anyone confirm???)
-Most number of channel offering (overall/total)
-Ala-carte option
-No annoying watermark logo
-First to deploy On-Demand service option
-I heard na yung latest Verimatrix Set Top Box supports 1080p resolution (paki-confirm nalang). Cignal STB is currently 720p/1080i maximum resolution.
Cons
-Infrastructure is limited by cabling/wiring (e.g. which explains lack of nationwide coverage)
-Pricing for Packages and Ala-carte options can be conflicting and inconsistent (e.g. AXN HD is available of Dual Def 549 and 999..........BUT wala sya sa 1799 or 1999 na plan)
-On-Demand service requires Sky Broadband connection..............and I heard that may latency and inconsistency ang Sky Broadband. It makes me wonder kung mawawalan ang signal habang nanonood ako (although this remains to be seen)
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That said:
Right now, meron kami:
Sky Cable Dual Def 999 + Animax (50 PHP/month) + Comedy Central HD (PHP 50/month)........para sa bedroom and isa para sa living room
However:
I'm planning na maglagay ng Cignal TV next year malapit sa may computer room para makapanood ng TV ang kapatid ko while playing.
The choice would be either:
1) Cignal Satellite Prepaid 590
OR
2) Cignal via PLDT FIBER OPTIC PLAN 3500
That said, I need your opinion and insight.
Should I go for satellite dish or fiber optic broadband???
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Which is better?
Skycable..trust me.
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Cignal... dont trust me. :D
Check mo nalang sir channel line ups. Kung alin yun mas madalas mo panuodin at yung alam mong mas mamamaximize mo yung bayad.
From destiny cable, nag switch ako sa Cignal dahil sa NBA Premium, Fox sports channel lalo na yung Fox3HD dahil madalas pinanunuod namin Motogp and F1.
Kung mahilig ka sa NBA, kasama na sa Postpaid channel line up yung NBA premiums. Sa iba need mo pang magbayad ng extra.
Personal opinion ko lang ito.
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Free na rin NBA Premium HD sa Dual Def 999.
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Extension box of skycable.
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i have both - skycable dito sa shop and cignal cable sa residence
between the two mas ok ang skycable especially sa customer service pag tumawag ka within 2 days meron pupunta para ayusin ang problema mo
sa cignal wala kwenta magaling lang sila mag install after nun wala na
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Free na rin NBA Premium HD sa Dual Def 999.
Sa Cignal sir, Plan 490 libre na Nba Premiums :D
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And may bayad ba sa cignal kapag everytime na may ipa-ayos?
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i have both - skycable dito sa shop and cignal cable sa residence
between the two mas ok ang skycable especially sa customer service pag tumawag ka within 2 days meron pupunta para ayusin ang problema mo
sa cignal wala kwenta magaling lang sila mag install after nun wala na
+1 Mabilis nga sila magpadala ng servicing team.
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And may bayad ba sa cignal kapag everytime na may ipa-ayos?
alam ko wala kasi monthly nagbabayad ka ng 199 para sa digibox nila
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i have both - skycable dito sa shop and cignal cable sa residence
between the two mas ok ang skycable especially sa customer service pag tumawag ka within 2 days meron pupunta para ayusin ang problema mo
sa cignal wala kwenta magaling lang sila mag install after nun wala na
Cignal is Dealer dependent unlike Sky na Company owned dispatch.
Customer Service is Sky
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Maayos CS sa sky pero minsan kapag kausap mo ung assign concierge hindi mo makausap ng maayos kasi nasa labas ng office or what at mag promise ng call back. pagkatapos ng isang oras tumawag ulit pero tapos na lahat ng concern ko.
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I've read about sky agents, are they also part of the company?
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Cignal... dont trust me. :D
Check mo nalang sir channel line ups. Kung alin yun mas madalas mo panuodin at yung alam mong mas mamamaximize mo yung bayad.
From destiny cable, nag switch ako sa Cignal dahil sa NBA Premium, Fox sports channel lalo na yung Fox3HD dahil madalas pinanunuod namin Motogp and F1.
Kung mahilig ka sa NBA, kasama na sa Postpaid channel line up yung NBA premiums. Sa iba need mo pang magbayad ng extra.
Personal opinion ko lang ito.
F1 in fox 3 hd? Are you sure? Alam ko f1 live races are only available in fox sports hd 1.
I think you are talking about CART racing sa america definitely not f1 live race. Baka f1 live practice sessions. Yun practice sessions alam ko meron ata sa fox sports 3hd.
Yup depends what you like. For a sports fanatic like me, it is sky cable all the way especially sa hd.
Sa sky meron nfl, all the tennis atp tours and grand slams, mlb baseball, uaap basketball phils, f1 live races, mga soccer matches, nba basketball, ufc fighting, volleyball, wrestling, ncaa college basketball and football, etc. These are all in hd. I will pay premium for these. Parang nasa america ka na sa palabas.
Yun mga movie channels pa ulit ulit lang yan. Pang sleep mode lang to watch these para madali to turn off lang yun tv pag sleepy na. Yun Movies puro na available sa downloads. For cable other than sports, I like varieties like comedy central, national geographic, discovery, disney, crime and investigation. Hd din.
What sports does cignal offer in hd? Nba lang ba? Nba and wrestling? Not even close compared to sky.
Just my opinion.
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I had Sky dual def in my previous residence but when we transferred to a new townhouse I had no choice but to get Cignal. I tried to transfer my Sky subscription but even though they have the facility in my new area they said that their signal will be too weak and I would just end up complaining. My unit is the last (14th) unit from the street and the embedded cable provided by the developer is not up to Sky's standard. I like Sky because you can add and delete channels that are not part of your plan by a simple phone call. And of course there's Cignal losing signal whenever it rains.
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F1 in fox 3 hd? Are you sure? Alam ko f1 live races are only available in fox sports hd 1.
I think you are talking about CART racing sa america definitely not f1 live race. Baka f1 live practice sessions. Yun practice sessions alam ko meron ata sa fox sports 3hd.
Yup depends what you like. For a sports fanatic like me, it is sky cable all the way especially sa hd.
Sa sky meron nfl, all the tennis atp tours and grand slams, mlb baseball, uaap basketball phils, f1 live races, mga soccer matches, nba basketball, ufc fighting, volleyball, wrestling, ncaa college basketball and football, etc. These are all in hd. I will pay premium for these. Parang nasa america ka na sa palabas.
Yun mga movie channels pa ulit ulit lang yan. Pang sleep mode lang to watch these para madali to turn off lang yun tv pag sleepy na. Yun Movies puro na available sa downloads. For cable other than sports, I like varieties like comedy central, national geographic, discovery, disney, crime and investigation. Hd din.
What sports does cignal offer in hd? Nba lang ba? Nba and wrestling? Not even close compared to sky.
Just my opinion.
You have a point.........and if I may, I'd like to add something na rin.
F1 is mostly Fox Sports 1 (though pa-minsan it's also aired on Fox Sports 2......tulad ng USGP). MotoGP can be aired on either of the three........pero the last few races were aired on Fox Sports 3.
In any case, kung habol ay Rugby or Association Football, then Sky Cable has that answer. Setanta Sports and BeIN Sport lineup are currently exclusively to Sky Cable sa ngayon.
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There are four sports i don't watch, soccer, rugby, hockey and cricket hehe.
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i have both - skycable dito sa shop and cignal cable sa residence
between the two mas ok ang skycable especially sa customer service pag tumawag ka within 2 days meron pupunta para ayusin ang problema mo
sa cignal wala kwenta magaling lang sila mag install after nun wala na
add ko na rin mas malinaw and sharp ang image ng skycable as compared sa cignal
mas gusto ko rin ang channel lineup ng sky kesa cignal
siguro nasanay din ako sa sky kasi ito cable ko for more than 10 years before ako nagkaroon ng cignal
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add ko na rin mas malinaw and sharp ang image ng skycable as compared sa cignal
mas gusto ko rin ang channel lineup ng sky kesa cignal
siguro nasanay din ako sa sky kasi ito cable ko for more than 10 years before ako nagkaroon ng cignal
Yes yun area namin nag repair ata ng main line sa labas. Bigla kasi very sharp yun sky cable ko hehe. I have compared it with cignal when i was in batangas. For me sharper nga ang sky. Compared both on 32 inch tv.
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another thing ayaw ko sa cignal yung logo niya nasa lahat ng channels yata
di naman nawawala signal ko pag umuulan since dependent siya sa fibr connection
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Yes ayaw ko yun logo ng cignal. What i like about cignal is the response of the remote when channel changing. Ang bilis talaga unlike sky ang bagal talaga. Ka bad trip din. Sana sky do something about it.
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Yes ayaw ko yun logo ng cignal. What i like about cignal is the response of the remote when channel changing. Ang bilis talaga unlike sky ang bagal talaga. Ka bad trip din. Sana sky do something about it.
nung wala pang digibox mabilis ang response time ng skycable
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another thing ayaw ko sa cignal yung logo niya nasa lahat ng channels yata
di naman nawawala signal ko pag umuulan since dependent siya sa fibr connection
On some channels, the Cignal logo is irritating (e.g. like sa Animax).
Here's another good point for Sky:
For those with TVs and displays that can output 1080p, they would be glad to know that the newer Verimatrix STBs support 1080p.
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Yes ayaw ko yun logo ng cignal. What i like about cignal is the response of the remote when channel changing. Ang bilis talaga unlike sky ang bagal talaga. Ka bad trip din. Sana sky do something about it.
Press 'OK' daw sir after mo key-in yung channel :D
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Press 'OK' daw sir after mo key-in yung channel :D
Im talking about doing channel arrow up and arrow down. Ang bagal talaga. Sa cignal it is so fast. I mean sa cignal i can press up 5 channels tuloy tuloy and in one or two second that 5th channel i want will appear agad. Sa sky you do the same thing it will hang a little. I mean i dont like naman to do that to my tv pero gulat ako ganun ka responsive ang cignal.
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Planning on changing our cable tv subscription, still on destiny cable(w/o digibox). Thinking of switching to Cignal or Sky or stay with Destiny(with digibox). I'm still in the process of reviewing their channel line up. Plus I got this flyers na nakaipit sa pinto namin from Sky kaya I decided na magtingin na din ng first hand review and experience dito.
Quick question lang(as I still didn't check their channel line ups), may NHK, Arirang, Channel M, YTN World ba both sa Sky or sa Cignal? as these channels were mostly watched aside from the usual sports, fox, Universal channel, etc, 2nd avenue and jack. would like to know also if these were on their list, most likely...baka sa Sky?
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Ok i repeated the speed torture channel change on my sky cable hehe. It is the same lang pala sa cignal. Sky is also fast and responsive.
Cignal may be a little faster by couple seconds
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Quick question lang(as I still didn't check their channel line ups), may NHK, Arirang, Channel M, YTN World ba both sa Sky or sa Cignal? as these channels were mostly watched aside from the usual sports, fox, Universal channel, etc, 2nd avenue and jack. would like to know also if these were on their list, most likely...baka sa Sky?
Let's see:
1) NHK
=Cignal has NHK World English; Sky has NHK World Premium......although paminsan, they unlock NHK World English during free channel events for around a week; Destiny has NHK World English........with the option to avail of NHK World Premium via select (digital/digbox only)
2) Arirang
=Available on all providers
3) Channel M
=Cignal only has the SD feed sa ngayon; Sky and Destiny carry both SD feed as well as HD feed (available via Select or certain packages like the Korean Pack or Fox Pack)
4) YTN World
-Wala ata ito sa Cignal; only Sky and Destiny have them
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Let's see:
1) NHK
=Cignal has NHK World English; Sky has NHK World Premium......although paminsan, they unlock NHK World English during free channel events for around a week; Destiny has NHK World English........with the option to avail of NHK World Premium via select (digital/digbox only)
2) Arirang
=Available on all providers
3) Channel M
=Cignal only has the SD feed sa ngayon; Sky and Destiny carry both SD feed as well as HD feed (available via Select or certain packages like the Korean Pack or Fox Pack)
4) YTN World
-Wala ata ito sa Cignal; only Sky and Destiny have them
wow! Thanks for the detailed comparison sir blackcyborg. I will check first with friends who have a Cignal subscription. I'm still with destiny but their agent is asking me if I want to avail their HD channels. I will also look for Destiny's chennel listing and compare it with Cignal and Sky. Right now, I feel that I'm still ok with sd broadcast, but part of me want to see and try some HD channels. That's why I'm looking now to upgrade with either of them.
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di ba pag naghd na ang destiny same channel lineup na siya sa sky hd?
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^^^
Yes, same ang channel numbers (for both digital channel lineups):
E.g.
Channel 170 is Fox Movies Premium HD (for BOTH Sky Cable HD and Destiny HD Digital)
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Pareho lang pala. Lol! I-review ko nalang yung sa Cignal. Thanks sir anya and blackcyborg.
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If me choice ako I'd stick with SkyCable dualdef 999
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up... update sana on which is better budget lang..
nabasa ko sa websyt ng cignal meron silang 290/490 entry? parang interested ako sa 490.. since may cnn..
yung sky.. hindi ko maintindihan yung websyt parang puros bundle kit sinasabi
alin po ba mas sulit? dad ko lang naman nanunuod ng tv.. and he just wants clear cnn.. destiny kami ngayon.. sobrang labo.. years na ko nagiisip lumipat.. kayalang wala kasi cable box sa destiny kaya naiwan.. thanks
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Sky para sakin sir. May cnn sa package na to http://www.mysky.com.ph/metromanila/plans-and-bundles/302/cable/dual-def-549
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thank you sir.. silipin ko yan
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Kung ang cignal t.v my abs cbn Hd tapos na usapan.. galing na ko sa sky dati.. ang habol ko lang sa sky is yun abs cbn hd. Kaya ang gagawin ko yun sky cable sa baba tapos yun cignal sa taas.
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Up lang po. Ask lang po kung sky pa rin mas ok ngayon. Alin ang mas mura ang initial cash out sa cignal or sky? Bale choosing between prepaid 100 or postpaid 250. Mostly local channels lang and mga educational channels like discovery, natgeo, animal planet etc. Mas preferred ko din kung hd na. Thanks
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Kung nba addict ka wag sky
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I want to compare two Cignal plan (490 & 690) and one SKYcable plan (HD 549). Based on the number of HD channels and which HD channels are not available on both sides. I have Sky HD 549 with 24 HD channels on. My lineup. How about Cignal HD?
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Any links to the channel line-up comparison between Sky and Cignal? Thanks!
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I lost track na sa UFC since nawala sa skycable..
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I think it comes down to the quality of the channels and how often you watch the channels. Sa sky nga marami. Quality ba? Nasa preference na ninyo. On the cignal 690 plan, it has 23 hd channels. I listed the two plans below. Hd channels lang.
Sky 549 plan hd channels
History Channel HD 165
ABS-CBN Sports+Action HD 166
ABS-CBN HD 167
HBO HD 168
Fox Movies HD 170
Fox Life HD 172
Metro Channel 174
Fox Sports 3 HD 176
Cartoon Network HD 178
Discovery HD 180
CNN HD 181
ANC HD 182
Liga HD 183
EDGEsport HD 188
National Geographic HD 195
Blue Ant Entertainment HD 196
Warner TV HD 197
Lifetime Channel HD 199
FYI HD 200
E! HD 207
EDGEsport 218
TLC HD 243
The Aquarium Channel HD 244
AXN HD 247
Disney HD 250
Cignal 490 plan
245 BBC Earth
250 Bloomberg TV Philippines HD
220 Cartoon Network HD
251 CNN HD
202 Colours HD
233 Fox HD
232 Fox Life HD
211 Fox Movies HD
263 Fox Sports HD
210 HBO HD
214 HBO Hits HD
236 Hits
261 HYPER HD
256 NBA Premium HD
260 PBA Rush HD
235 Warner TV
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Correction Edge Sport Ch. 218 is not HD
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For hd channles, I think for me its all about your preference...
Skycable cable has an advatage in terms of variety show while cignal has an advantage in sports shows...
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It all comes down to preference:
Sky would have the biggest lineup in the country as well as channels na wala pa sa ibang provider (e.g. Mezzo Live HD which has great Jazz music programming).
Cignal naman if you want NBA Premium HD
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Mas maganda e compare probably is skycable 549 vs cignal 690 (both carrier will tell you these are the best value plans)
I will not include anymore yung may mga pareho sila hd channel like hbo, fox movies, cnn.. etc...
Skycable 549:
Abs cbn hd
S&a hd
Metro channel hd
Fox sports 3 hd
Discovery hd
Anc hd
Liga hd
Edge hd
Nat geo hd
Blue ant hd
Lifetime hd
Fyi hd
E! Hd
Tlc hd
Axn hd
Disney hd
** notable non hd channel: cinema one
Cignal 690:
Bbc earth hd
Bloomberg hd
Colours hd
Fox sports hd
Fox sports hd 2
Hbo hits hd
Hits hd
Pba rush hd
Nba premium hd
Hyper hd
Nat geo people hd
** notable non hd channels: disney junior and btv.
So its all about preferences kung anu dyan mas gusto nyu panoorin...
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I also noticed that Disney Channel on SkyDirect is also downgraded from HD to SD. And added Six new channels most of them are international channels
- Al Jazeera
- Channel news Asia
- CCTV 4
- Arirang
- KBS World (Ala Carte)
- SLTV
Boomerang is also available on SkyDirect replace Nick Jr.
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I think the most prominent advantage of Cignal over Sky (Cable and Direct) is the NBA channels considering the on-going issue between the Sky and Solar over the NBA payments.
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badtrip yung Fox Sports HD sa skycable nawala na, SD na lang yung available sa plan 549.wala man lang abiso ang sky na aalisin, tapos di ko alam kung anong HD channel ang ipinalit. kokonti na lang sports channel na HD sa sky.